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LeBron James as a TE... (1 Viewer)

LargeMouthBass

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Hypothetically speaking, let's say the NBA season is history for this season and LeBron decides to sign with a team. Which team would be the best for him and will he have success right away? Also, let's say he decides to quit basketball and become a full time Football player, could he become the best TE of all time?

 
Let's put it this way, if mediocre basketball players can have HOF careers in the NFL, why can't a freakish athlete in the NBA become the best TE? He's fast, strong, big... He'd be the prototypical TE imo.

 
Lebron is probably the most physically gifted athlete in professional sports. He'd be great in the NFL, but no way he does it. He'd probably actually lose money.

 
What about Dwight Howard?
Ughhhh....how awesome would it be to see a bulked up (yes bulked up) Dwight howard on the goaline.............. 6'11" bulked up probably around 290, sorry NFL corners. even if he's not that fast, still unstoppable. The thing is with basketball players, as much as they look huge on the court, they are relatively scrawny compared to football players muscle mass wise. If they started doing football type workout regimes ...good lord. I think lebron would come in as the ultimate prospect especially bulked up. I honestly think it would be him and Bo Jackson for best physical specimen of all-time, NFL-wise. Lets put this in perspective. Calvin Johnson is pretty much the consensus freak of nature in the NFL right? 6'5" 235 with a 4.35 40 time and probably around a 40 inch vertical. Lebron James is 6'8" I'm guessing around a 4.45 to 4.50 speed over a 40" vertical and weighing in around 280(if he bulked up for the NFL). That is unheard-of from a prospect standpoint. Although I believe he would be the ultimate prospect, I'm not arrogant enough to believe that he could just come in and dominate even with a full season under his belt. The game is fast, the nuances are subtle, the routes need to be crisp and the play books are something quite frankly, NBA players would have no idea about. basketball is much more a game of feel than football. I realize Lebron played high school football and was phenomenal, but the game is much more complicated than that in the NFL. Is he tough enough? Although I think he would have amazing ball skills, we can't know until we see him on the field(catching in traffic). The biggest knock on Lebron is toughness, how do we think he would handle his first Leron Landry hit over the middle? To be honest I have no idea how this would work out...but man I would love to see it.Personally I think Atlanta hawk's power forward Josh Smith would be a guy I could most conceivably making the transition to football. He plays with a football mentailty as it is on the court anyway lol
 
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We are talking basketball players here compared to football players. One hard hit and he'd take his ball and go home. I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with mussy.

 
We are talking basketball players here compared to football players. One hard hit and he'd take his ball and go home. I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with mussy.
Totally agree. The TEs that have made it were failed BB players that were hungry. James would get blown up once over the middle and probably start crying.
 
We are talking basketball players here compared to football players. One hard hit and he'd take his ball and go home. I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with mussy.
Name two HOF TEs that are playing right now? Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates.Most of the young TEs that have HOF potential all have basketball backgrounds. So I don't know what the heck you are talking about...
 
What about Dwight Howard?
Ughhhh....how awesome would it be to see a bulked up (yes bulked up) Dwight howard on the goaline.............. 6'11" bulked up probably around 290, sorry NFL corners. even if he's not that fast, still unstoppable. The thing is with basketball players, as much as they look huge on the court, they are relatively scrawny compared to football players muscle mass wise. If they started doing football type workout regimes ...good lord. I think lebron would come in as the ultimate prospect especially bulked up. I honestly think it would be him and Bo Jackson for best physical specimen of all-time, NFL-wise.

Lets put this in perspective. Calvin Johnson is pretty much the consensus freak of nature in the NFL right? 6'5" 235 with a 4.35 40 time and probably around a 40 inch vertical. Lebron James is 6'8" I'm guessing around a 4.45 to 4.50 speed over a 40" vertical and weighing in around 280(if he bulked up for the NFL). That is unheard-of from a prospect standpoint.

Although I believe he would be the ultimate prospect, I'm not arrogant enough to believe that he could just come in and dominate even with a full season under his belt. The game is fast, the nuances are subtle, the routes need to be crisp and the play books are something quite frankly, NBA players would have no idea about. basketball is much more a game of feel than football. I realize Lebron played high school football and was phenomenal, but the game is much more complicated than that in the NFL. Is he tough enough? Although I think he would have amazing ball skills, we can't know until we see him on the field(catching in traffic). The biggest knock on Lebron is toughness, how do we think he would handle his first Leron Landry hit over the middle? To be honest I have no idea how this would work out...but man I would love to see it.

Personally I think Atlanta hawk's power forward Josh Smith would be a guy I could most conceivably making the transition to football. He plays with a football mentailty as it is on the court anyway lol
Agree with this post completely. Just one example of lebron's athleticism, look at how fast he gets back on defense here:

 
We are talking basketball players here compared to football players. One hard hit and he'd take his ball and go home. I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with mussy.
Totally agree. The TEs that have made it were failed BB players that were hungry. James would get blown up once over the middle and probably start crying.
Tony Gonzalez was a football player first; he never joined the basketball team at Cal until after football season was over. In high school he was a first-team All-American selection at both TE and linebacker. He was a solid basketball player but not a national-level talent. He did shut down Tim Thomas in the NCAA tournament (held him to 1 point).The reason Lebron James wouldn't succeed like Tony Gonzalez is that Lebron is a basketball player.
 
I think the only impact he could have is a goalline threat. If a qb just threw it up, no one could outjump him for the ball. But to think he could be an awesome tight end is myopic. I don't think he could or would be successful as a fulltime tight end.

 
We'll never find out the answer, but I'm very confident that LeBron would be a dominant NFLer after an offseason to prepare. There are a few positions he could excel at, but obviously WR/TE is where he'd play.

 
What about Dwight Howard?
Ughhhh....how awesome would it be to see a bulked up (yes bulked up) Dwight howard on the goaline.............. 6'11" bulked up probably around 290, sorry NFL corners. even if he's not that fast, still unstoppable. The thing is with basketball players, as much as they look huge on the court, they are relatively scrawny compared to football players muscle mass wise. If they started doing football type workout regimes ...good lord. I think lebron would come in as the ultimate prospect especially bulked up. I honestly think it would be him and Bo Jackson for best physical specimen of all-time, NFL-wise. Lets put this in perspective. Calvin Johnson is pretty much the consensus freak of nature in the NFL right? 6'5" 235 with a 4.35 40 time and probably around a 40 inch vertical. Lebron James is 6'8" I'm guessing around a 4.45 to 4.50 speed over a 40" vertical and weighing in around 280(if he bulked up for the NFL). That is unheard-of from a prospect standpoint. Although I believe he would be the ultimate prospect, I'm not arrogant enough to believe that he could just come in and dominate even with a full season under his belt. The game is fast, the nuances are subtle, the routes need to be crisp and the play books are something quite frankly, NBA players would have no idea about. basketball is much more a game of feel than football. I realize Lebron played high school football and was phenomenal, but the game is much more complicated than that in the NFL. Is he tough enough? Although I think he would have amazing ball skills, we can't know until we see him on the field(catching in traffic). The biggest knock on Lebron is toughness, how do we think he would handle his first Leron Landry hit over the middle? To be honest I have no idea how this would work out...but man I would love to see it.Personally I think Atlanta hawk's power forward Josh Smith would be a guy I could most conceivably making the transition to football. He plays with a football mentailty as it is on the court anyway lol
I dunno how accurate there stats were but during the MNF game ESPN put up Calvin Johnson's measurements and he has a top reach of 12'5" which was higher than ANY current/past NBA player. They said Calvin Johnson's catch radius is the size of a 2 car garage. Ridiculous.
 
We'll never find out the answer, but I'm very confident that LeBron would be a dominant NFLer after an offseason to prepare. There are a few positions he could excel at, but obviously WR/TE is where he'd play.
What about MLB? He could cover TE's and probably even slot WR's over the middle. Think of him blitzing against a slow footed center or guard with a head juke. With his vertical he could really make it hard to pass over the middle. Just dont know how long it would take him to learn the defensive calls and reads.
 
We'll never find out the answer, but I'm very confident that LeBron would be a dominant NFLer after an offseason to prepare. There are a few positions he could excel at, but obviously WR/TE is where he'd play.
What about MLB? He could cover TE's and probably even slot WR's over the middle. Think of him blitzing against a slow footed center or guard with a head juke. With his vertical he could really make it hard to pass over the middle. Just dont know how long it would take him to learn the defensive calls and reads.
Why don't we just put him at QB?
 
We are talking basketball players here compared to football players. One hard hit and he'd take his ball and go home. I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with mussy.
Name two HOF TEs that are playing right now? Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates.Most of the young TEs that have HOF potential all have basketball backgrounds. So I don't know what the heck you are talking about...
And Gates and Gonzalez were accomplished basketball pros?Apples and oranges.Just because a guy is great at one sport doesn't mean he'd succeed in another...See Michael Jordan and his baseball stint.
 
What about Dwight Howard?
Lets put this in perspective. Calvin Johnson is pretty much the consensus freak of nature in the NFL right? 6'5" 235 with a 4.35 40 time and probably around a 40 inch vertical. Lebron James is 6'8" I'm guessing around a 4.45 to 4.50 speed over a 40" vertical and weighing in around 280(if he bulked up for the NFL). That is unheard-of from a prospect standpoint.
Might be dead wrong on this, but although I think James is quick, I don't know about a 4.45 40-time, seems like a bit of a stretch.He'd be physically gifted no doubt, but there's a lot to learn. It normally takes a little bit of time to adapt to the sport. He'd need a year or half a year and some camp to get really into it. That's how SD did it with Gates.
 
Might be dead wrong on this, but although I think James is quick, I don't know about a 4.45 40-time, seems like a bit of a stretch.
He timed the fastest running the length of the court during draft drills, and it's a general consensus every time they poll NBA coaches and players that he's the fastest in the league.Make no mistake, he's very very fast. Long strides and quick steps.

 
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I dunno how accurate there stats were but during the MNF game ESPN put up Calvin Johnson's measurements and he has a top reach of 12'5" which was higher than ANY current/past NBA player. They said Calvin Johnson's catch radius is the size of a 2 car garage. Ridiculous.
oh cmon, you know that cant be true.
 
We are talking basketball players here compared to football players. One hard hit and he'd take his ball and go home. I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with mussy.
Name two HOF TEs that are playing right now? Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates.Most of the young TEs that have HOF potential all have basketball backgrounds. So I don't know what the heck you are talking about...
And Gates and Gonzalez were accomplished basketball pros?Apples and oranges.Just because a guy is great at one sport doesn't mean he'd succeed in another...See Michael Jordan and his baseball stint.
Michael Jordan was 6'6" 215 around his prime. LeBron is 6'8" 265lbs. He doesn't have a basketball body. LeBron is a freakish athlete. A guy that big should not be that coordinated, agile, have that speed, and power. Besides, baseball is a skill game, much like golf. You don't need to be a great athlete to be great at it. But in Football, as long as you are big, fast, and athletic, even a caveman can be a star (just look at some of the NFL players' Wonderlic scores).
 
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I dunno how accurate there stats were but during the MNF game ESPN put up Calvin Johnson's measurements and he has a top reach of 12'5" which was higher than ANY current/past NBA player. They said Calvin Johnson's catch radius is the size of a 2 car garage. Ridiculous.
oh cmon, you know that cant be true.
I believe the statement was that it was AS HIGH as any NBA player, not higher. The measurements included a 6'10" wingspan, 8'8" standing reach and 45 inch vertical. It was Sport Science who was making these claims.
 
We'll never find out the answer, but I'm very confident that LeBron would be a dominant NFLer after an offseason to prepare. There are a few positions he could excel at, but obviously WR/TE is where he'd play.
What about MLB? He could cover TE's and probably even slot WR's over the middle. Think of him blitzing against a slow footed center or guard with a head juke. With his vertical he could really make it hard to pass over the middle. Just dont know how long it would take him to learn the defensive calls and reads.
For real, he could be a modern day 2 way player - TE/MLB. :D
 
It can't be as easy as just being a tall fast guy. Otherwise every 6'8" college power forward that didn't make it in the NBA would just go dominate the NFL.

 
FULL ARTICLE

Mark Murphy hasn't merely witnessed the finest receivers of his generation. He has experienced them.

Murphy's 11-year career at strong safety was good enough to get him into the Green Bay Packers' Hall of Fame. He has covered, tackled and occasionally been scorched by legends.

On the subject of greatness, he knows what he's talking about.

"I've been around a lot of great receivers," Murphy said. "I tell people that I rate my top receivers -- coaching, playing or watching -- as James Lofton, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent and LeBron James."

James played football for two seasons at St. Vincent-St. Mary High School, scoring 27 touchdowns and attracting the attention of Ohio State and Notre Dame.

Murphy wasn't delivering a joke or some abstract concept. He meant James, the NBA superduperstar, simply was that spectacular on a football field. Murphy saw it as the defensive coordinator at James' alma mater, St. Vincent-St. Mary High in Akron, Ohio.

James was an all-state receiver as a sophomore and junior, setting records that still stand. He gave up football as a senior to become a multimillion-dollar, teenage basketball corporation.

"People laugh at me, but it's true," Murphy said of placing James in the same class as three Pro Football Hall of Famers. "The kid had everything you could want.

"I felt like that was one kid that could have gone from high school to the NFL and played."

 
What about Dwight Howard?
Ughhhh....how awesome would it be to see a bulked up (yes bulked up) Dwight howard on the goaline.............. 6'11" bulked up probably around 290, sorry NFL corners. even if he's not that fast, still unstoppable. The thing is with basketball players, as much as they look huge on the court, they are relatively scrawny compared to football players muscle mass wise. If they started doing football type workout regimes ...good lord. I think lebron would come in as the ultimate prospect especially bulked up. I honestly think it would be him and Bo Jackson for best physical specimen of all-time, NFL-wise. Lets put this in perspective. Calvin Johnson is pretty much the consensus freak of nature in the NFL right? 6'5" 235 with a 4.35 40 time and probably around a 40 inch vertical. Lebron James is 6'8" I'm guessing around a 4.45 to 4.50 speed over a 40" vertical and weighing in around 280(if he bulked up for the NFL). That is unheard-of from a prospect standpoint. Although I believe he would be the ultimate prospect, I'm not arrogant enough to believe that he could just come in and dominate even with a full season under his belt. The game is fast, the nuances are subtle, the routes need to be crisp and the play books are something quite frankly, NBA players would have no idea about. basketball is much more a game of feel than football. I realize Lebron played high school football and was phenomenal, but the game is much more complicated than that in the NFL. Is he tough enough? Although I think he would have amazing ball skills, we can't know until we see him on the field(catching in traffic). The biggest knock on Lebron is toughness, how do we think he would handle his first Leron Landry hit over the middle? To be honest I have no idea how this would work out...but man I would love to see it.Personally I think Atlanta hawk's power forward Josh Smith would be a guy I could most conceivably making the transition to football. He plays with a football mentailty as it is on the court anyway lol
I dunno how accurate there stats were but during the MNF game ESPN put up Calvin Johnson's measurements and he has a top reach of 12'5" which was higher than ANY current/past NBA player. They said Calvin Johnson's catch radius is the size of a 2 car garage. Ridiculous.
2 car garage isn't that ridiculous. Obviously, that isn't him standing in a spot but include his dive. Take a look at goalkeepers in soccer, they routinely block a goal that is 24' wide, or 2 car garages. Now, his 12'5" reach is well, incredible.
 
I seriously believe that if LeBron dedicated himself to football starting today, he would be the best TE (receiving) in the league within 2-3 years.

It's not just the height/weight/speed. LeBron has a suddenness to his game that I have never ever seen from a player of that size. He has huge hands that would allow him to catch the ball pretty easily.

The only question I would have is his toughness, which you can never judge until you get on the field. But I am pretty certain it wouldn't be an issue

 
We are talking basketball players here compared to football players. One hard hit and he'd take his ball and go home. I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with mussy.
Name two HOF TEs that are playing right now? Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates.Most of the young TEs that have HOF potential all have basketball backgrounds. So I don't know what the heck you are talking about...
And Gates and Gonzalez were accomplished basketball pros?Apples and oranges.Just because a guy is great at one sport doesn't mean he'd succeed in another...See Michael Jordan and his baseball stint.
Baseball is a bit different. Extreme athleticism could make LeBron a factor in football. Baseball's not typically a game for a long, lean guy.
 

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