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Lendale White looked good in his last preseason game. I have heard a lot about RBBC, but do you think he has any upside this year? Has he finally put it together?

Ken

 
He won't get many more chances.

Hopefully he has the mindset to Prove the "Disbelievers" that they were All Wrong.

Yes, I drafted him as a Rookie in my Dynasty League. And I need him Now to Step-Up :football:

 
Lendale White looked good in his last preseason game. I have heard a lot about RBBC, but do you think he has any upside this year? Has he finally put it together?
Finally? The guy is entering his 2nd year after a rookie campaign in which he was unable to beat out a good starting veteran who gained 1200 yards. The amount of hate LenDale receives on these boards is unreal. It's not like he's Ron Dayne or William Green who has been a scrub for years.He has tons of upside; he'll have every opportunity to grab the Titans' starting job. What he does with that opportunity remains to be seen, but he destroyed Texas in his final college game weighing more than he does currently. The talent is there.

 
I took him because he has the following in his corner:

-A year's experience and maturity

-He's Norm Chow's guy and knows the offense well

-He takes his blocking and blitz pickups very seriously which bodes well for playing time

Being a second round pick, the stakes are high for both LenDale and the Titans to make it work. I say LenDale wins the job outright and picks up right where Henry left off. Chris Brown is nice depth, but that's it.

 
Any RB that has the possibility of becoming the main runner on a run-first team has upside. Especially if he's being drafted as an RB3. He will begin the year in RBBC, but by mid-year - he MAY be the main RB - which would see him with statlines closer to a solid RB2.

 
I took him because he has the following in his corner:-A year's experience and maturity-He's Norm Chow's guy and knows the offense well-He takes his blocking and blitz pickups very seriously which bodes well for playing timeBeing a second round pick, the stakes are high for both LenDale and the Titans to make it work. I say LenDale wins the job outright and picks up right where Henry left off. Chris Brown is nice depth, but that's it.
I'm a Titans homer, and I picked up Lendale last night in my draft because I love his upside. I think he will start and get the bulk of the load. C.Brown will play some too, but I got Lendale in the 10th round of my draft, and I think he's going to turn out to be a real bargain.
 
Yes...unlike a lot of RBs, Lendale can do it all...goalline work, pass catching etc. etc.

Tremendous upside.

 
The coach's have wanted him to be the man all along but he's allowed others to be in the picture. If he can pick up his play he's got a good shot to be the man in Tenn. That being said I don't expect great #'s from the Tenn running game.

 
What's the upside of 240?

Seriously, there was a good thread on here about scientifically predicting running back success. One of the red flags is if a guy is over 240 as a rookie. That has been a problem for White.

 
:lmao: GB the LenDale White apololgists.

Dude is Chris Brown's backup. 'Nuff said.

 
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Has there ever been anything that says he's better than Brown to begin with? Chris Brown is fragile, we know, but he is good.

I haven't even seen White prove anything on the field yet. Has anybody?

 
BRONG said:
Has there ever been anything that says he's better than Brown to begin with? Chris Brown is fragile, we know, but he is good. I haven't even seen White prove anything on the field yet. Has anybody?
Lendale didnt look too bad on that last preseason game, not much else to go by.
 
Kit Fisto said:
Dude is Chris Brown's backup. 'Nuff said.
Source? Link?I have read nothing lately that indicates that (other than posts by Chrissy owners :wub: ) On the contrary, many sources indidcate, if not an even split, White with a slight edge:

The Tennessean stated 4 days ago that "The Titans will wait a little longer to decide on their starting running back" (link)

And if you read the article, Fisher only says that "we are going to use them both every week".

Rotoworld's take is "Our best guess as to how this situation shakes out is that White starts with Brown focusing on passing downs. "

CBS had this to say 3 days ago "expect a split primarily between White and Brown. Both should see around 15 touches per game, though White is the favorite to be a touchdown vulture."

Also CBS (as well as other websites) rank White higher in redraft (not to mention keeper or dynasty) for this year.

While I'm thrilled that you have given the starting job to Chris Brown, apparently Jeff Fisher and the Titans don't agree.

 
Kit Fisto said:
Dude is Chris Brown's backup. 'Nuff said.
Source? Link?I have read nothing lately that indicates that (other than posts by Chrissy owners :excited: ) On the contrary, many sources indidcate, if not an even split, White with a slight edge:

The Tennessean stated 4 days ago that "The Titans will wait a little longer to decide on their starting running back" (link)

And if you read the article, Fisher only says that "we are going to use them both every week".

Rotoworld's take is "Our best guess as to how this situation shakes out is that White starts with Brown focusing on passing downs. "

CBS had this to say 3 days ago "expect a split primarily between White and Brown. Both should see around 15 touches per game, though White is the favorite to be a touchdown vulture."

Also CBS (as well as other websites) rank White higher in redraft (not to mention keeper or dynasty) for this year.

While I'm thrilled that you have given the starting job to Chris Brown, apparently Jeff Fisher and the Titans don't agree.
Don't listen to Rotoworld. They are the biggest joke. Seriously they pump up every rookie or young RB. They are so quick to send the vets out to pasture. Remember Brown has starter ability he is just fragile. With that said I think its going to be a split and whoever is the hot back of the day gets more carries but that will change week to week..
 
He's chubby and not very good.

Folks who said he would have a better NFL career than Bush were out of their minds.

 
CBS had this to say 3 days ago "expect a split primarily between White and Brown. Both should see around 15 touches per game, though White is the favorite to be a touchdown vulture."
I remember Brown having a 5 TD game in college. It would be a shame if White becomes the TD vulture because Chrissy's got game.
 
LenWhale White $1... Steal of the draft

He is NOT fat and when you have a QB who can run, DE's have to contain outsides of the pocket which opens huge holes to run. No wonder Travis Henry rushed for so many yards and Atlanta lead the league in rushing for many years with Vick.

Only the very gifted create this ofcourse

 
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Travis Henry ran the ball well in Tenn last season, so there's no reason to think that White can't pick up where Henry left off.

Chrissy Brown couldn't even find a job with another team,he had to come crawling back on his hands and knees , begging Tenn to re-sign him. He'll hurt his foot tonight while cooking pepper and onions..the guy is WAY too brittle...and even if he starts, we all know he has a problem with playing in the second half of ball games..enter LenDale White.

like someone else said, White is the backup to CHRISSY BROWN...that means White will see significant playing time,all season long, even as a backup!

:blackdot:

great value , relative to his ADP.

 
LenDale White makes move on starting gig

LenDale White - RB - TEN - Aug. 30 - 7:30 p.m. ET

LenDale White started Thursday's exhibition finale over Chris Brown. He rushed 15 times for 58 yards and caught one pass for 19 yards in the win.

Brown (7-42, 2-10) played mostly with the second unit, when Vince Young left the game. Third-stringer Chris Henry (7-22, 2-22) surprisingly played despite a hamstring injury. With two preseason starts to one for Brown and Henry, White is the heavy favorite to start in Week 1. He also threw a vicious block that sprung Young for a score.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

:lmao: :football:

 
LenDale White makes move on starting gig LenDale White - RB - TEN - Aug. 30 - 7:30 p.m. ET LenDale White started Thursday's exhibition finale over Chris Brown. He rushed 15 times for 58 yards and caught one pass for 19 yards in the win.Brown (7-42, 2-10) played mostly with the second unit, when Vince Young left the game. Third-stringer Chris Henry (7-22, 2-22) surprisingly played despite a hamstring injury. With two preseason starts to one for Brown and Henry, White is the heavy favorite to start in Week 1. He also threw a vicious block that sprung Young for a score. Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel :shrug: :shrug:
That block Lendale laid was on Atari Bigby, Green Bay's likely new starter at safety. Bigby is known as a huge hitter - so Lendale's pancake of him was all the more impressive. A great way to get the attention of the coaching staff.
 
LenDale White makes move on starting gig

LenDale White - RB - TEN - Aug. 30 - 7:30 p.m. ET

LenDale White started Thursday's exhibition finale over Chris Brown. He rushed 15 times for 58 yards and caught one pass for 19 yards in the win.

Brown (7-42, 2-10) played mostly with the second unit, when Vince Young left the game. Third-stringer Chris Henry (7-22, 2-22) surprisingly played despite a hamstring injury. With two preseason starts to one for Brown and Henry, White is the heavy favorite to start in Week 1. He also threw a vicious block that sprung Young for a score.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

:excited: :homer:
Perhaps the biggest reason of all to stay away. Whoever gets the starting nod at RB...will they score as many rushing TDs as Young?
 
LenDale White makes move on starting gig LenDale White - RB - TEN - Aug. 30 - 7:30 p.m. ET LenDale White started Thursday's exhibition finale over Chris Brown. He rushed 15 times for 58 yards and caught one pass for 19 yards in the win.Brown (7-42, 2-10) played mostly with the second unit, when Vince Young left the game. Third-stringer Chris Henry (7-22, 2-22) surprisingly played despite a hamstring injury. With two preseason starts to one for Brown and Henry, White is the heavy favorite to start in Week 1. He also threw a vicious block that sprung Young for a score. Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel :thumbup: :football:
That block Lendale laid was on Atari Bigby, Green Bay's likely new starter at safety. Bigby is known as a huge hitter - so Lendale's pancake of him was all the more impressive. A great way to get the attention of the coaching staff.
What you couldn't see off camera was a Titans assistant waving a turkey at White from the back of the end zone. Bigby got in between the wrong man and his food.But the news services all seem to think that last night's game has definitely put White in a starter role. I wonder if Fisher is thinking the same thing. We all know that historically Fisher prefers to have one feature back and then backups. I wonder if White's performance has changed his mind about the RBBC. Most likely White and Brown will split the first few games at about 60/40, but if White starts running really well, or at least carries the run game to the satisfaction of Fisher and Chow, can anyone else see him taking the Lion's share and not looking back?
 
I follow the Titans closely, and it seems very obvious to me that the first half of the last two preseason games have shown exactly what fisher wants to do with the RB's. White starts and gets the majority of carries (not as much as full time starter maybe, but not as few as a true RBBC), C.Brown comes in as change of pace and to spell White. White has not only looked good running, but he has had some good receptions out of the backfield and has done an outstanding job of blocking on passing plays, and then last night on Vince's TD run, White's block was a thing of beauty.

Barring injuries (both White and Brown are injury concerns, so its a wash), anyone who drafts Brown over White in a fantasy league is in for disappointment. Whoever got White for $1, that was a huge steal. White's in for a big year ala T.Henry last season. Only reason he may not be RB2 material is that Vince will vulture a lot of rushing TD's.

On another note, looks like Vince should easily exceed 7 TD's rushing if he stays healthy all year. Vince had 2 rushing TD's on 4 carries in bascially 4 quarters of play over the last two preseason games. Vince also got stopped on a rushing attempt from the 1 by the Pats in the first game (but he got the goalline carry). In a normal system that rewards rushing TD's and yards, Vince is a lock to be a top 10 QB if he stays healthy.

 
I follow the Titans closely, and it seems very obvious to me that the first half of the last two preseason games have shown exactly what fisher wants to do with the RB's. White starts and gets the majority of carries (not as much as full time starter maybe, but not as few as a true RBBC), C.Brown comes in as change of pace and to spell White. White has not only looked good running, but he has had some good receptions out of the backfield and has done an outstanding job of blocking on passing plays, and then last night on Vince's TD run, White's block was a thing of beauty. Barring injuries (both White and Brown are injury concerns, so its a wash), anyone who drafts Brown over White in a fantasy league is in for disappointment. Whoever got White for $1, that was a huge steal. White's in for a big year ala T.Henry last season. Only reason he may not be RB2 material is that Vince will vulture a lot of rushing TD's.On another note, looks like Vince should easily exceed 7 TD's rushing if he stays healthy all year. Vince had 2 rushing TD's on 4 carries in bascially 4 quarters of play over the last two preseason games. Vince also got stopped on a rushing attempt from the 1 by the Pats in the first game (but he got the goalline carry). In a normal system that rewards rushing TD's and yards, Vince is a lock to be a top 10 QB if he stays healthy.
Lendale's job: Beat up the defense for about 2 1/2 quartersChrissy's job: Come in after 2 1/2 quarters and turn the speed onLendale will be the one to get the 3rd and goal on the 1 yard line carry -- not Brown.I think they put up 1,800 between the two of them.
 
Lendale's job: Beat up the defense for about 2 1/2 quartersChrissy's job: Come in after 2 1/2 quarters and turn the speed onLendale will be the one to get the 3rd and goal on the 1 yard line carry -- not Brown.
That may all be true- but Brown can score from anywhere on the field while White can be chased down by a defensive tackle. Just how often do you see the 2007 Tennessee Titans being at the goalline this season?
 
mbuehner said:
Lendale's job: Beat up the defense for about 2 1/2 quartersChrissy's job: Come in after 2 1/2 quarters and turn the speed onLendale will be the one to get the 3rd and goal on the 1 yard line carry -- not Brown.
That may all be true- but Brown can score from anywhere on the field while White can be chased down by a defensive tackle. Just how often do you see the 2007 Tennessee Titans being at the goalline this season?
I think most coaches would rather have a back the could block, catch, and move the chains over one that only really is a home run threat. Lendale white seems to want it more. He's been playing hard and you have to respect that. Browns a wuss. Guy's made of glass. White is not as injury prone
 
Of course he has some upside this year.. There are basically 2 groups of people when it comes to White. One group hates him based on what he has or has not done in the past, or because they think he is out of shape. Then you have the other group who realizes that he is a running back who can be grabbed late, who has a decent shot at being a starting RB. ANYTIME you can get a starting RB late in a draft it's worth taking a flyer on.

White is not someone you should rely on to be your RB2 but he is someone who might just end up being of RB2 value that was drafted as a RB 4 or 5.

 
Of course he has some upside this year.. There are basically 2 groups of people when it comes to White. One group hates him based on what he has or has not done in the past, or because they think he is out of shape. Then you have the other group who realizes that he is a running back who can be grabbed late, who has a decent shot at being a starting RB. ANYTIME you can get a starting RB late in a draft it's worth taking a flyer on. White is not someone you should rely on to be your RB2 but he is someone who might just end up being of RB2 value that was drafted as a RB 4 or 5.
I totally agree. For what it costs to get him, he has a ton of upside. He's pretty much the last RB on the board that will probably get the bulk of the carries to start the season. But we've actually seen very little of White, last year and this preseason. We. The fans. But the rotation last night clearly indicates that Fisher and Chow, who've seen a heck of a lot more of him, believe in White and are willing to give him the rock. He could succeed, too, as a few yards and a cloud of dust guy alongside Young's playmaking abilities. A between the tackles runner like White will have even more holes up the middle as teams shadow Young... He also is showing great promise in the passing game, with blocking and his hands... which is special for a large back. I wasn't so excited about nabbing him for cheap in a contract league four weeks ago but last night made me a lot more happy about it... I'm playing him as my overtime player in week one...
 
Of course he has some upside this year.. There are basically 2 groups of people when it comes to White. One group hates him based on what he has or has not done in the past, or because they think he is out of shape. Then you have the other group who realizes that he is a running back who can be grabbed late, who has a decent shot at being a starting RB. ANYTIME you can get a starting RB late in a draft it's worth taking a flyer on. White is not someone you should rely on to be your RB2 but he is someone who might just end up being of RB2 value that was drafted as a RB 4 or 5.
I think it`s funny how people base whether your in shape or not solely on your appearance. I have seen fat heavyweight fighters(tony tubbs for example)that could fight hard for 12 rounds....if thats not ''in shape i don`t know what is.
 
Seems like everyone is either "White is a fat worthless tub o goo" or "White is a lock to be an RB stud" BS.

What I've seen was quite unimpressive but I admit that hasn't been much.

Does anyone who's seem him play a lot this year have an objective viewpoint?

 
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I think it`s funny how people base whether your in shape or not solely on your appearance. I have seen fat heavyweight fighters(tony tubbs for example)that could fight hard for 12 rounds....if thats not ''in shape i don`t know what is.
I think it's funny that you're comparing boxing to being a RB in the NFL.
 
I think it`s funny how people base whether your in shape or not solely on your appearance. I have seen fat heavyweight fighters(tony tubbs for example)that could fight hard for 12 rounds....if thats not ''in shape i don`t know what is.
I think it's funny that you're comparing boxing to being a RB in the NFL.
I think it`s funny that YOU thinks it`s funny....they are all athletes and just because some athletes don`t look like athletes does`nt mean squat.I have been boxing and workingout constantly for 27 years and i`m pretty much built like a brick ####house but those ''fat'' athletes could run circles around me....point is don`t judge a book by it`s..........
 
Friday, 08/31/07Titans likely to start White in openerBy JIM WYATTStaff WriterBarring a late change of heart by the coaching staff, LenDale White is expected to start at running back for the Titans when they open the regular season on Sept. 9 at Jacksonville.Titans Coach Jeff Fisher said veteran running back Chris Brown will also get plenty of carries. “I thought LenDale and Chris both showed enough this preseason in different situations against different defenses … to warrant significant playing time,’’ Fisher said. “As far as which guys lines up first, I’d say in all likelihood it will probably be LenDale, but it is not going to be a situation where he gets 90 percent of the carries.“I like the rotation, I like the fact we can keep them both fresh. I think they both have a chance to be more productive when they are fresh in the ball game.’’White rushed for 58 yards in Thursday night’s preseason game against the Packers. Brown led all rushers in the preseason with 170 yards.
 
mbuehner said:
Lendale's job: Beat up the defense for about 2 1/2 quarters

Chrissy's job: Come in after 2 1/2 quarters and turn the speed on

Lendale will be the one to get the 3rd and goal on the 1 yard line carry -- not Brown.
That may all be true- but Brown can score from anywhere on the field while White can be chased down by a defensive tackle. Just how often do you see the 2007 Tennessee Titans being at the goalline this season?
I think most coaches would rather have a back the could block, catch, and move the chains over one that only really is a home run threat. Lendale white seems to want it more. He's been playing hard and you have to respect that. Browns a wuss. Guy's made of glass. White is not as injury prone
Your talking about Chris Brown like he is a small, scat back type of a runner. The guy can be a hammer, and can get tough short yardage. His knock is his durability, not his skills.
 
mbuehner said:
Lendale's job: Beat up the defense for about 2 1/2 quarters

Chrissy's job: Come in after 2 1/2 quarters and turn the speed on

Lendale will be the one to get the 3rd and goal on the 1 yard line carry -- not Brown.
That may all be true- but Brown can score from anywhere on the field while White can be chased down by a defensive tackle. Just how often do you see the 2007 Tennessee Titans being at the goalline this season?
I think most coaches would rather have a back the could block, catch, and move the chains over one that only really is a home run threat. Lendale white seems to want it more. He's been playing hard and you have to respect that. Browns a wuss. Guy's made of glass. White is not as injury prone
Your talking about Chris Brown like he is a small, scat back type of a runner. The guy can be a hammer, and can get tough short yardage. His knock is his durability, not his skills.
Not totally. C. Brown has been know to suck when 1 or 2 yards are needed to move the chains.
 
some people make fun of white for his size (& maybe they have reason), but imo he doesn't get enough credit for his feet...

his cousin is chauncey billups, & he would seem to have athletic bloodlines & genes...

mayock highlighted a run he had at USC where he had to hurdle over some trash at the line, & when a tackler launched himself at where he was going to land, in a bang-bang play, he jump planted on one foot & sprung in another direction... it was evidence of a very instinctive & athletic run...

if he can keep his weight in check & stay healthy (i don't think he missed any games in three seasons at USC), he could be a very pleasant surprise...

* as far as injury concerns, chris brown owners have to be at least as worried...

 
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From Yahoo

LenDale White: Named Head of RB Committee

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com

Saturday, September 1, 2007

Update: Barring a late change of heart by the coaching staff, White will start against Jacksonville, the Tennessean reports. "As far as which guys lines up first, I'd say in all likelihood it will probably be LenDale, but it is not going to be a situation where he gets 90 percent of the carries," head coach Jeff Fisher said. "I like the rotation, I like the fact we can keep them both fresh. I think they both have a chance to be more productive when they are fresh in the ball game."

Recommendation: For fantasy owners, this is the dreaded running back by committee. Both backs must also be downgraded, as quarterback Vince Young is currently Tennessee's best goal-line back.
 
From Yahoo

LenDale White: Named Head of RB Committee

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com

Saturday, September 1, 2007

Update: Barring a late change of heart by the coaching staff, White will start against Jacksonville, the Tennessean reports. "As far as which guys lines up first, I'd say in all likelihood it will probably be LenDale, but it is not going to be a situation where he gets 90 percent of the carries," head coach Jeff Fisher said. "I like the rotation, I like the fact we can keep them both fresh. I think they both have a chance to be more productive when they are fresh in the ball game."

Recommendation: For fantasy owners, this is the dreaded running back by committee. Both backs must also be downgraded, as quarterback Vince Young is currently Tennessee's best goal-line back.
Unless you're saying Lendale isn't a good GL RB, I don't buy that. Sure Vince will steal some GL TDs, but Dunn faired well in Atlanta with Vick there.
 
From Yahoo

LenDale White: Named Head of RB Committee

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com

Saturday, September 1, 2007

Update: Barring a late change of heart by the coaching staff, White will start against Jacksonville, the Tennessean reports. "As far as which guys lines up first, I'd say in all likelihood it will probably be LenDale, but it is not going to be a situation where he gets 90 percent of the carries," head coach Jeff Fisher said. "I like the rotation, I like the fact we can keep them both fresh. I think they both have a chance to be more productive when they are fresh in the ball game."

Recommendation: For fantasy owners, this is the dreaded running back by committee. Both backs must also be downgraded, as quarterback Vince Young is currently Tennessee's best goal-line back.
Unless you're saying Lendale isn't a good GL RB, I don't buy that. Sure Vince will steal some GL TDs, but Dunn faired well in Atlanta with Vick there.
Just quoting the Yahoo article.
 
Thoughts on Lendale after week 3? Can he ultimately take this job and run with it or should we expect Brown to linger all season? As long as he keeps getting the goal line love, i'll be happy either way.

 
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I would expect Brown to linger all season as it doesnt appear that White is in shape he still looks a little on the meaty side and was swallowing alot of air in the NO game.

 
I see no reason for the goal line situation to change, as he has been reasonably successful. And since the team is doing pretty well and gets a lot of rushing attempts, I see no reason for the splitting of carries to change.

I think, WYSIWYG. White is probably good for about 15-18 touches a game, plus a TD every other game or maybe just a bit more. Good enough for a mid to low RB2 in most leagues and formats, a little better in TD heavy leagues, and a little worse in PPR (probably a RB3).

 
The guy has a good chance to carve out an Ironhead Heyward type of career.
Nice analogy - he appears to have nimbler feet though. Maybe more of a Natrone Means or Marion Butts.As a Chris Brown owner, I must say I was impressed by the way Lendale ran. Scary to think what that guy would be like if he shed the spare tire.
 
The guy has a good chance to carve out an Ironhead Heyward type of career.
Nice analogy - he appears to have nimbler feet though. Maybe more of a Natrone Means or Marion Butts.As a Chris Brown owner, I must say I was impressed by the way Lendale ran. Scary to think what that guy would be like if he shed the spare tire.
What was his playing weight in college? Did he run differently?
 
The guy has a good chance to carve out an Ironhead Heyward type of career.
Nice analogy - he appears to have nimbler feet though. Maybe more of a Natrone Means or Marion Butts.As a Chris Brown owner, I must say I was impressed by the way Lendale ran. Scary to think what that guy would be like if he shed the spare tire.
Curious why people are still holding on to C. Brown. Does Brown have any value other then a H-cuff?
 
The guy has a good chance to carve out an Ironhead Heyward type of career.
Nice analogy - he appears to have nimbler feet though. Maybe more of a Natrone Means or Marion Butts.As a Chris Brown owner, I must say I was impressed by the way Lendale ran. Scary to think what that guy would be like if he shed the spare tire.
Curious why people are still holding on to C. Brown. Does Brown have any value other then a H-cuff?
14 team league. Pure and simple.
 
Curious why people are still holding on to C. Brown. Does Brown have any value other then a H-cuff?
Thats a silly question unless you are in an 8 man league. In standard scoring leagues he is currently the 26th rated RB and unlike most handcuffs he gets carries every game red zone and some goal line carries.
 

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