*** Less than Official 2013 Senior Bowl Discussions *** (1 Viewer)

[smackdaddies]

From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal

--- Denard Robinson’s transition to WR. No quarterback in FBS history has more rushing yards than Michigan’s Robinson (4,495). He’s one of the most electrifying college players in recent memory. Now the question is how (if?) he fits into the pros. This will be Robinson’s chance to endear himself to scouts as a potential slot receiver. Robinson moved to running back this season and continued to make plays. In a bowl loss to South Carolina, he had 100 yards on 23 carries. But his experience catching the football is limited. Robinson had only three receptions for 31 yards at Michigan. Many eyes will be fixated on him this week. Some quarterbacks have made this a fluid transition, others have not.--- This year’s Alabama crop. They’re usually drawing a lot of attention this time of year. Six players from the back-to-back national champions are in Mobile — S Robert Lester, LB Nico Johnson, OL D.J. Fluker, OL Barrett Jones, TE Michael Williams and LS Carson Tinker. Jones will be in Alabama but isn’t practicing due to recent foot surgery. Last year's group will be tough to beat. S Mark Barron, CB Dre Kirkpatrick, LB Dont'a Hightower and LB Courtney Upshaw all went in the first 35 picks. But Lester (12 interceptions the last two years) and Johnson (55 tackles) helped anchor another championship defense.--- The quarterbacks. Unlike last year, it’s wide open at the top of this year’s class. West Virginia’s Geno Smith and USC's Matt Barkley won't be here this week, but the Senior Bowl gives several others a golden opportunity to stand out. For the South, there’s Landry Jones (Oklahoma), E.J. Manuel (Florida State) and Tyler Wilson (Arkansas). For the North, there’s Ryan Nassib (Syracuse), Mike Glennon (N.C. State) and Zac Dysert (Miami Ohio). Covered Nassib at Syracuse when he backed up former Duke point guard Greg Paulus. He’s come a long way since then. Now one former college scout thinks Nassib actually could go first overall.--- Toughness on defense. Above all, this may be what the Packers emphasize this off-season. As Bob McGinn wrote in his season-ending grades, Green Bay has been inferior physically the last two seasons. The roster could use some more nastiness. Seeing so many prospects up close this week should clue Green Bay into their temperaments and playing styles.--- Kenjon Barner. Like Robinson, the Oregon running back was must-see TV in college but comes with question marks as a pro prospect. In Chip Kelly's high-powered offense, Barner rushed for 1,767 yards and 21 touchdowns this season. But he's also (a generous) 5-11, 192 pounds. Barner will need to show scouts he wasn't a mere product of the Oregon machine and that he can physically hold up at the NFL level. Senior Bowl competition all week provides an ideal litmus test.--- Another wide receiver? This may be the year Ted Thompson takes another wide receiver high in the draft. He has only drafted one in the last four years. With Greg Jennings likely to leave in free agency, the Packers G.M. may strike again in April. Oregon State's Markus Wheaton and Baylor's Terrance Williams are two receivers worth tracking. Even without Robert Griffin III around, Williams nearly cleared 2,000 receiving yards this season. The 6-foot-3 receiver finished with 1,832 yards on 97 receptions with 12 touchdowns.

 

[smackdaddies]

From the Grey Lady, by FBG very own Matt Waldman and Jene Bramel

Can I just say how cool it is that two fbg's write for the NYT? That is awesome.

Both articles point toward Denard Robinson and can he become an NFL WR. I would love to see some reports on if he can be like Randall Cobb

 

[smackdaddies]

Jag related content

*First, what NOT to look for. Texas A&M defensive end Damontre Moore and Florida State’s Bjoern Werner aren’t here because they’re underclassmen. Most of the early mock drafts have the Jaguars picking one of them at No. 2 overall.*The quarterbacks. North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon could be the first passer off the draft board late in the first round. If the Jaguars opt for a quarterback in the second or third rounds, players to watch are Oklahoma’s Landry Jones (will be 24 years old in April, which makes him a few months older than Blaine Gabbert). Jones started all or parts of four years, posting totals of 123 touchdowns, 53 interceptions and 16,646 yards. … Two more passers are Arkansas’ Tyler Wilson (another current 23-year old who started for two seasons and completed 62.6 percent of his passes) and Miami, Ohio’s Zac Dysert (four-year starter who threw for 12,013yards, 73 touchdowns and 51 interceptions).*Versatile offensive linemen. The Jaguars could have openings at center if Brad Meester retires or isn’t re-signed, left guard (four different starters) and right tackle (Cam Bradfield was benched the last two games). A couple of intriguing names include Kentucky guard Larry Warford (three-year starter, third-team All-America in 2012) and Cornell’s J.C. Tretter (who moved from tight end to left tackle in college but is learning how to play guard).*Pass rushers. The Jaguars finished last in the NFL with 20 sacks in 2012 and even though Jason Babin improved the pass rush late in the year, it needs to be addressed. The addition of Bradley as coach adds an interesting dynamic. The Seahawks played a base 4-3, but in nickel situations against Atlanta, Bradley used two linemen, four linebackers and five defensive backs. That creates a need for an edge linebacker who can rush the passer.*Cornerbacks. Derek Cox is a free agent, Rashean Mathis is a free agent, Mike Harris is better suited to cover the slot receiver and Aaron Ross has a big 2013 cap number. That creates a need. The top-ranked corner in Mobile is Oregon State’s Jordan Poyer, a projected second-round pick.

 

[msommer]

From the Grey Lady, by FBG very own Matt Waldman and Jene BramelCan I just say how cool it is that two fbg's write for the NYT? That is awesome.Both articles point toward Denard Robinson and can he become an NFL WR. I would love to see some reports on if he can be like Randall Cobb

Does that mean Jene will contribute to the RSP (here's hoping!)

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@HubbuchNYP: North squad Senior Bowl practice today in Mob-eel. Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib has looked really impressive so far. http://t.co/7hrItDK7**ETA**Can someone let me know to pronounce his name?

 

[coolnerd]

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Weigh-In.phpWeight-in with notes

 

[smackdaddies]

SI's weigh in commentarymoney qoute

Under any other circumstances, hundreds of adults gathered to watch 21- to 23-year-old men walk across a stage in their underwear might arouse scorn, or, at the very least, suspicion.

 

[cheese]

@HubbuchNYP: North squad Senior Bowl practice today in Mob-eel. Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib has looked really impressive so far. http://t.co/7hrItDK7**ETA**Can someone let me know to pronounce his name?

NASS-ihb

 

[smackdaddies]

If your not reading the Fifth Down Blog every day you are missing some great stuff on the Senior bowl

 

[Kirby]

They need to put Denard at RB. Teaching him to pick up the blitz has to be easier than teaching him an entirely new position.

 

[Xue]

If anyone is curious on the physiques of these guys: http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/01/senior_bowl_heights_weights_fr.htmlStepfan Taylor has some massive thighs: http://photos.al.com/mobile-press-register/2013/01/senior_bowl_2013_weigh-in_174.htmlRobbie Rouse is thick himself, not much definition, though: http://photos.al.com/mobile-press-register/2013/01/senior_bowl_2013_weigh-in_205.htmlJohnathan Franklin, looks like a lot of biceps/triceps work: http://photos.al.com/mobile-press-register/2013/01/senior_bowl_2013_weigh-in_144.htmlMarkus Wheaton: http://photos.al.com/mobile-press-register/2013/01/senior_bowl_2013_weigh-in_215.htmlQuinton Patton, good muscle mass for a WR: http://photos.al.com/mobile-press-register/2013/01/senior_bowl_2013_weigh-in_168.html

 

[mr roboto]

They need to put Denard at RB. Teaching him to pick up the blitz has to be easier than teaching him an entirely new position.

I haven't watched him much. Is he very accurate? Maybe RB with the threat to throw every once in a while?

 

[Kirby]

They need to put Denard at RB. Teaching him to pick up the blitz has to be easier than teaching him an entirely new position.

I haven't watched him much. Is he very accurate? Maybe RB with the threat to throw every once in a while?

His accuracy was decent, good enough to run some HB passes. His main weakness as a QB was going through reads/progressions. He's a patient runner, sets up his blocks, and gets to top speed quickly. I think he could be a CJ Spillerish 12 carries a game guy.

 

[smackdaddies]

CBS has five that surprised at the SBPlayers are listed alphabetically

Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas: Cast off as simply a "track guy" by some due to his Olympic past, Goodwin (pictured above) demonstrated much greater physicality and football aptitude in Mobile than many expected. At just 5-09, 179 Goodwin lacks the size teams would prefer but he showed some savvy as a route-runner, caught the ball well throughout the week and, of course, is an unbelievable athlete. As Dane Brugler noted earlier in the week, Goodwin's solid showing could push the former Longhorn into the second day of the draft. Kyle Juszczyk, FB, Harvard: The traditional lead blocking fullback may be going the way of the dinosaurs for many teams in today's spread-heavy NFL but scouts still appreciated the physical, no-nonsense play from Juszczyk. The solidly build 6-2, 248 pounder cleared running lanes for the North's running backs (including David Richard's top-ranked back from the Senior Bowl) and consistently knocked linebackers to the ground in pass protection.David Quessenberry, OL, San Jose State: A former walk-on tight end who has started the past three seasons for the Spartans at left tackle, Quessenberry was asked to play virtually every position up front for the North team this week. Possessing a broad-shouldered, long-armed frame at 6-5, 294 that looks capable of handling another 15 pounds with some work in an NFL weight room, he drew positive notes from scouts during Monday's weigh-in and played well throughout the week, demonstrating athleticism, strength and the mental toughness to handle the jump in competition as well as the constant position changes. Quessenberry was one of six prospects individually highlighted by Senior Bowl director (and former NFL general manager) Phil Savage. B.W. Webb, CB, William and Mary: Scouts knew Webb could cover, as he'd shown quick feet, speed and route-recognition on tape. Needless to say, however, the jump in competition from the Colonial Athletic Association to the Senior Bowl was a significant one but Webb certainly proved up to the task. The 5-10, 183 pounder showed improved physicality in Mobile, however, and stepped up his play against the bigger receivers he faced on the South squad, showing the feistiness necessary to make the significant jump to the NFL. Webb was among four small school standouts highlighted by Pat Kirwan, earning a comparison to Atlanta Falcons' star Asante Samuel from the former NFL coach and scout. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern: Scouts were anxious to see if the three-time DII All-American would be able to continue his dominating run-stuffing ways against higher caliber talent. While Williams won't be able to rush the passer with the consistency he did in the Mid-American Conference (school record 27 sacks over his career), he showed surprising quickness for his 6-2, 341 pound frame and impressive upper body strength. Overshadowed by more recognizable names like Kawann Short and Sylvester Williams, this Williams was the defensive tackle whose stock is ascending the quickest following an impressive week of practice.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

They need to put Denard at RB. Teaching him to pick up the blitz has to be easier than teaching him an entirely new position.

I haven't watched him much. Is he very accurate? Maybe RB with the threat to throw every once in a while?

His accuracy was decent, good enough to run some HB passes. His main weakness as a QB was going through reads/progressions. He's a patient runner, sets up his blocks, and gets to top speed quickly. I think he could be a CJ Spillerish 12 carries a game guy.

his acurracy......for lack of a better term........just plain sucks. UofM did him a disservice, should of switched him to a slash type role two years ago.

 

[Donnybrook]

Players that looked good in the Senior Bowl (IMO)

1. Ziggy Ansah

2. Kawann Short

3. Jordon Poyer

4. Robert Alford

5. EJ Manual

6. Mike Gillislee

7. Zavier Gooden

8. Marques Goodwin

9. Stephan Taylor

10. Sio Moore

Players that got exposed:

1. Landry Jones

2. Justin Pugh

3. Zac Dysert

 

[Biabreakable]

Donnybrook could you elaborate on how Justin Pugh was exposed? Who was beating him?From what I have read about him he seems like a decent flex lineman who could play G or tackle that teams might be looking at 2nd round or later.Is that much later now?

 

[Balco]

Players that looked good in the Senior Bowl (IMO)

1. Ziggy Ansah

2. Kawann Short

3. Jordon Poyer

4. Robert Alford

5. EJ Manual

6. Mike Gillislee

7. Zavier Gooden

8. Marques Goodwin

9. Stephan Taylor

10. Sio Moore

Players that got exposed:

1. Landry Jones

2. Justin Pugh

3. Zac Dysert

As a UCONN fan, I loved that 4 Huskies were selected to the Senior Bowl. Sio Moore replaced another UCONN Linebacker, Trevardo Williams.Here is my take on those guys after watching them for four years:

Dwayne Gratz, Cornerback: He is a solid press corner, he gets himself in trouble when he is asked to cover man to man down the field. He has trouble finding the ball in the air, and can sometimes take poor angles. He loves to come up in the run game. I could see him playing safety in some schemes, his height (I believe he measured in at 5'11) might hurt his draft stock there.

Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Cornerback: Great size, also adept at press. He doesn't have top of the line speed, but performed better than Gratz when asked to cover one on one. Inconsistent in the run game, but not afraid to stick his nose in the scrum. Could be a solid starter, IMO.

Trevardo Williams, Defensive End/OLB: Really big fan of Trevardo. He was listed as a defensive end for UCONN, but DOn Brown ran a ton of 3-4. This kid has a ton of speed, and I have no doubt in my mind he can play OLB in the pros, and put up double digit sacks one day. He was a track star in high school. There is going to be a learning curve, I am sure, but he has the speed to cover backs out of the backfield. I have no idea where he will be drafted, due to having an injury plagued year (and senior bowl), but the guy is very talented. I am not as confident of his success as I was of Kendall Reyes, last year (who the Chargers stole in Round 2), but I think he can be a good one.

Sio Moore, OLB: Just a ridiculous hard worker, who brought a ton of speed and athleticism. Despite a stellar career, I thought he was misused in the 3-4 as he was asked to cover quite a bit, when I thought his strength was as a pass rusher. When asked to stand up, he got constant pressure. And he lit up running backs every game. He is going to put up some ridiculous numbers at the combine, IMO, and his stock continues to rise. He can start at the next level.

And just so I can tout him now, the best defensive player on the UCONN team is not in the draft. That distinction goes to ILB Yawin Smallwood. Remember the name, the kid is a beast. And I expect his name will rocket up draft boards next year.

 

[aesclepius]

Ziggy Ansah definitely did. 7 tackles 1 1/2 sacks 1 FF and Player of the Game for the South.

 

[Donnybrook]

Donnybrook could you elaborate on how Justin Pugh was exposed? Who was beating him?From what I have read about him he seems like a decent flex lineman who could play G or tackle that teams might be looking at 2nd round or later.Is that much later now?

I had to consult my PVR for you.1st half: Cornelius Washington went by him on the stip sack of Dysert. Dysert didn't have a chance on that play. Mayock gave Pugh credit for recovering the fumble. 2nd half: Pugh was called for holding on Washington negating a 21 yard pass play from Glennon to Harper. Pugh did not anchor and was getting pushed back into the QB. He didn't look like a 1st/2nd round tackle yesterday. Might be better at guard.

 

[Biabreakable]

Donnybrook could you elaborate on how Justin Pugh was exposed? Who was beating him?From what I have read about him he seems like a decent flex lineman who could play G or tackle that teams might be looking at 2nd round or later.Is that much later now?

I had to consult my PVR for you.1st half: Cornelius Washington went by him on the stip sack of Dysert. Dysert didn't have a chance on that play. Mayock gave Pugh credit for recovering the fumble. 2nd half: Pugh was called for holding on Washington negating a 21 yard pass play from Glennon to Harper. Pugh did not anchor and was getting pushed back into the QB. He didn't look like a 1st/2nd round tackle yesterday. Might be better at guard.

Thanks bro. This puts Cornelius Washington on my radar then and perhaps some of the glowing reports on Pugh I have read are off a bit.