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LionsFan78's Early SELL HIGH Candidates (1 Viewer)

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I needed a break from defense stuff. Selling high during the season is always important, you all know that. Never hurts to have some players in mind. Here's my list. Half strategy, half prediction. So post yours if you got some. Of course, there's still much that will change during training camp. Here's what I'm thinking so far. REDRAFT, non-PPR leagues btw....

1. Chester Taylor, RB, MIN - Weeks 2/3: There's no chance that he'll remain the starting RB with Adrian Peterson in town, barring an injury. However, there's a chance that both will see plenty of action the first few weeks. With Atlanta and Detroit in the lineup the first few weeks, Taylor could post a few great games. Unless you own Peterson, I'd get rid of him here while you can.

2. Anthony Thomas, RB, BUF - Week 2/3: Pretty much the same logic as above, although I think he'll actually start at least the first few games in front of Lynch. He did quite well in relief of McGahee last year, so there's no reason to think he can't post a few good outings to start the season. The schedule is rough, with DEN, PIT and NE to start the season. But if you find an owner that's willing to bite and trade you a quality player for a "starting" RB, pull the trigger. He won't start for long. He's this year's Dominic Rhodes. And since he'll likely cost you pennies in the draft, chances are you'll get a steal if you trade him at the right time.

3. Derrick Mason, WR, BAL - Weeks 2-4: If you think Mason's the true #1 on this team, you're in trouble. It's Heap and Clayton's show. With some favorable matchups to start the season against teams that were generous to opposing WR's last year (CIN W1 and ARI W3), there's a decent chance that Mason could have some great numbers after the first few games. If you can trade him for a much better value WR at that point, or perhaps someone else that benefits your team, then go for it.

4. Tatum Bell, RB, DET - Week 2: This one needs some attention, because it all depends on how Kevin Jones' rehab goes this year. Pay close attention to how he does in training camp. If you feel like he'll be back by midseason, then sell Bell for everything you can after their week 1 matchup vs. OAK. There's no reason to believe he won't have a great game that week, and the next three games are all against great run defenses.

5. Muhsin Muhammed, WR, CHI - Week 3/4: A little bit of the same rationale as Mason above, but I actually believe Moose can be a solid WR3 for a fantasy team this year. However, it's Berrian's show at the WR position, I just don't think Muhammed will outscore him in fantasy points this season. But if he does well to start the season, somebody will believe he's a true WR1 this year. If you can get an upgrade at the WR position out of the deal, test the waters.

These next two are my off-the-wall sleepers as a SELL HIGH. They need a 'perfect storm' of scenarios in order to benefit someone's team by selling:

6. Jon Kitna, QB, DET - Midseason: I have Kitna ranked high as a QB this year. He'll be a solid starter. However, if the following conditions apply, he could be a sell-high candidate this year. 1) The Lions must have a bad record by midseason. If they look to be out of the playoff hunt, I think there's a better than 50/50 chance you'll see Stanton in there sometime this year. Just in time to screw you for the fantasy playoffs. If Det even looks like they'll have a chance at a solid season, all bets are off. 2) You have to have a good QB2 on your roster. If, for example, you pair Kitna with Leinart, Cutler, Campbell, etc., and they prove to be very start worthy (I believe all 3 will be, actually), then throw Kitna on the trading block and see what you can get. 3) You have to target an owner that's willing to trade up for a better QB, and give you somebody that'll help your team in return. Don't just trade Kitna for a solid benchwarmer.

7. BAL D/ST - Midseason: This one also needs some scenarios to play out to benefit from a sell-high. 1) You have to believe that they'll disappoint at the end of the season. There's a murderous stretch of games weeks 12-14, along with 2 away games against MIA and SEA to round out the fantasy playoffs. If that is enough for you to consider selling, then 2) You need an alternate D/ST that has surprisingly proved very playable, and preferably one with a tremendous playoff schedule. Remember, not many people had SD ranked high last year, and they finished as a great play most weeks. If you can afford to lose Baltimore, it just might work out. Lastly, 3) You have to target an owner that's willing to trade you a great fantasy player for a defense. Baltimore just might be the defense that can lure a great player. It must be somebody that improves your team though, not just someone to sit the bench. I'm talking a no-brainer upgrade to your team.

Anybody else got someone else in mind?

 
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Not too bad... don't know if anyone would buy Bal D from you.

I would like to throw in Lamont Jordan; try to Sell Him before the season starts. I know some people have upgraded him with the Rhodes Suspension; but when Dom comes back he should make a bid for the starting job mid-season.

Vince Young is another good one to bump off before the season starts; my thinking is that the Tenn offense has gotten worst this offseason. Replacing T Henry w/ the combo of White and C Henry is gona to hurt VY's #s

 
Sell High, dynasty leagues:

also applies to RE-draft, only if you select these guys, Sell the high after the first 2-3 weeks of the season.

1. L. Tomlinson - no way he repeats his 2006 numbers, or even comes close. Norv Turner will find some way to screw that team worse than Shottenheimer did. Lt's 28 tds will decrease my 10,minimum. He ran for 1800+ yards last season,the highest total of his career. a fall back to , say, 1400 yards is more likely..this is the season that LT looks 'human'. He's still , arguably, the #1 pick in fantasy leagues, but he won't produce anywhere near the same amount of fantasy pts as last season. Mike Turner figures to be a much bigger factor in 2007, he should see upwards of 150 carries, he catches the ball extremely well, and is a great change of pace guy..I'd look for MTurner to spell LT more often in 2007..

2. Tony Romo - second half of 2006, showed his true #'s...he fell hard and fast. Thats more like the Romo that you'll come to know, in 2007..get what you can for him now,while the fantasy mags keep pimping him as a top 10 QB..

3. D. McNabb - hasn't been healthy in 5 seasons. blown knee wipes out his rushing ability, one of his greatest assets. drop him like a hot potato to that chump who believes McNabb is a de facto franchise , top 10 'must-have' fantasy QB. When's he's hurt by week 6, you'll thank me..

4. Brian Westbrook - he'll start out hot, and either get hurt, or will suffer at the hands of another D. McNabb injury. Kolb is a lousy backup to throw in , this season. If/when McNabb gets hurt, this whole offense should shutdown.

Westbrook has his own injury woes, last season was DEFINITELY the high water mark interms of rushing numbers, he's likely to fall back to 600-700 rush yards..

5. Larry Fitz/A. Boldin - Sell both, early. This offense will go thru the RB position. This isn't Denny Green's pass hapy chuck-n-duck, its the Whisenhunt and Grimm show, i.e, run run run ( kick)

6. Eli Manning - starts hot, ends cold. this year will be no different.

7. Fred Taylor - yes, he avg'd over 5 yards per carry last season. He's on the wrong side of 30, and, MJD has proven he's not only a capable runner, but the future of the Jax franchise. G Jones comes back..how does that affect Fraud Taylor?

 
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If SA starts out the season looking like his old self, what would be a fair asking price in a dynasty? I would think you could get a younger developing RB with lots of potential, like Benson or Maroney, plus maybe an upgrade elsewhere. Sound about right?

 
LionsFan78 said:
I needed a break from defense stuff. Selling high during the season is always important, you all know that. Never hurts to have some players in mind. Here's my list. Half strategy, half prediction. So post yours if you got some. Of course, there's still much that will change during training camp. Here's what I'm thinking so far. REDRAFT, non-PPR leagues btw....

1. Chester Taylor, RB, MIN - Weeks 2/3: There's no chance that he'll remain the starting RB with Adrian Peterson in town, barring an injury. However, there's a chance that both will see plenty of action the first few weeks. With Atlanta and Detroit in the lineup the first few weeks, Taylor could post a few great games. Unless you own Peterson, I'd get rid of him here while you can.

2. Anthony Thomas, RB, BUF - Week 2/3: Pretty much the same logic as above, although I think he'll actually start at least the first few games in front of Lynch. He did quite well in relief of McGahee last year, so there's no reason to think he can't post a few good outings to start the season. The schedule is rough, with DEN, PIT and NE to start the season. But if you find an owner that's willing to bite and trade you a quality player for a "starting" RB, pull the trigger. He won't start for long. He's this year's Dominic Rhodes. And since he'll likely cost you pennies in the draft, chances are you'll get a steal if you trade him at the right time.

3. Derrick Mason, WR, BAL - Weeks 2-4: If you think Mason's the true #1 on this team, you're in trouble. It's Heap and Clayton's show. With some favorable matchups to start the season against teams that were generous to opposing WR's last year (CIN W1 and ARI W3), there's a decent chance that Mason could have some great numbers after the first few games. If you can trade him for a much better value WR at that point, or perhaps someone else that benefits your team, then go for it.

4. Tatum Bell, RB, DET - Week 2: This one needs some attention, because it all depends on how Kevin Jones' rehab goes this year. Pay close attention to how he does in training camp. If you feel like he'll be back by midseason, then sell Bell for everything you can after their week 1 matchup vs. OAK. There's no reason to believe he won't have a great game that week, and the next three games are all against great run defenses.

5. Muhsin Muhammed, WR, CHI - Week 3/4: A little bit of the same rationale as Mason above, but I actually believe Moose can be a solid WR3 for a fantasy team this year. However, it's Berrian's show at the WR position, I just don't think Muhammed will outscore him in fantasy points this season. But if he does well to start the season, somebody will believe he's a true WR1 this year. If you can get an upgrade at the WR position out of the deal, test the waters.

These next two are my off-the-wall sleepers as a SELL HIGH. They need a 'perfect storm' of scenarios in order to benefit someone's team by selling:

6. Jon Kitna, QB, DET - Midseason: I have Kitna ranked high as a QB this year. He'll be a solid starter. However, if the following conditions apply, he could be a sell-high candidate this year. 1) The Lions must have a bad record by midseason. If they look to be out of the playoff hunt, I think there's a better than 50/50 chance you'll see Stanton in there sometime this year. Just in time to screw you for the fantasy playoffs. If Det even looks like they'll have a chance at a solid season, all bets are off. 2) You have to have a good QB2 on your roster. If, for example, you pair Kitna with Leinart, Cutler, Campbell, etc., and they prove to be very start worthy (I believe all 3 will be, actually), then throw Kitna on the trading block and see what you can get. 3) You have to target an owner that's willing to trade up for a better QB, and give you somebody that'll help your team in return. Don't just trade Kitna for a solid benchwarmer.

7. BAL D/ST - Midseason: This one also needs some scenarios to play out to benefit from a sell-high. 1) You have to believe that they'll disappoint at the end of the season. There's a murderous stretch of games weeks 12-14, along with 2 away games against MIA and SEA to round out the fantasy playoffs. If that is enough for you to consider selling, then 2) You need an alternate D/ST that has surprisingly proved very playable, and preferably one with a tremendous playoff schedule. Remember, not many people had SD ranked high last year, and they finished as a great play most weeks. If you can afford to lose Baltimore, it just might work out. Lastly, 3) You have to target an owner that's willing to trade you a great fantasy player for a defense. Baltimore just might be the defense that can lure a great player. It must be somebody that improves your team though, not just someone to sit the bench. I'm talking a no-brainer upgrade to your team.

Anybody else got someone else in mind?
Not saying you are wrong, but I don't agree with most of those... I think A-Train, and Taylor's stock is real low right now. I think closer to week 1, after they get some PT with the starters in the pre-season their stock will be up. That might be the time to sell.

I don't think Mason/Muhammad have enough stock to really be concerned about. Same with Tatum Bell, for the most part. I think most believe Jones will be back at some point, and since we don't know when that will be, I don't see anyone investing too much in Bell.

As for Kitna, and Balt, I'd be keeping them. They will both be solid, IMO.

 
McNabb will likely be lights out at the beginning of the season. Let him get you to 5-1 or so and then trade him for a RB or WR and a struggling QB stud such as:

Brady will probably need some time before he and his new cast gel.

I don't think Palmer will start off slow, but if he does...

Or if you have a solid backup make a move for a 2nd tier QB and an inconsistant stud ie Evans, Walker

Of course there's always a chance that he will stay healthy and it may make you want to hang on to him, but if you hear about him battling any type of injury, ship him off.

Another I am likely going to draft late in order to trade will be Favre. Unless the Packers have a winning record, I'd expect to see Aaron Rodgers start around week 10 or so, so the Packers can decide what they need to do if Favre retires after this season (which I am starting to think is going to happen this year, because he's now talking about sticking around for 2-3 more seasons when he usually says he may or may not and always does.)

 
McNabb will likely be lights out at the beginning of the season. Let him get you to 5-1 or so and then trade him for a RB or WR and a struggling QB stud such as:

Brady will probably need some time before he and his new cast gel.

I don't think Palmer will start off slow, but if he does...

Or if you have a solid backup make a move for a 2nd tier QB and an inconsistant stud ie Evans, Walker

Of course there's always a chance that he will stay healthy and it may make you want to hang on to him, but if you hear about him battling any type of injury, ship him off.

Another I am likely going to draft late in order to trade will be Favre. Unless the Packers have a winning record, I'd expect to see Aaron Rodgers start around week 10 or so, so the Packers can decide what they need to do if Favre retires after this season (which I am starting to think is going to happen this year, because he's now talking about sticking around for 2-3 more seasons when he usually says he may or may not and always does.)
I think he is a perfect sell high right now. I was able to get 1.02 rookie pick for him in dynasty (still blows my mind). Moss in my mind, outside of the previous mental anguish he has as baggage is question mark to return to the elite level. Stallworth succeeded (?) (38-725-5) in a pass happy offense that allowed Todd Pinkston to produce (60-798-7). I am skeptical on how good this guy really is. Bottom line, I think Brady owners will be disappointed when he doesn't have a miraculous season that many are predicting. I think he will do what he has always done, solid top 7 production. Not that it is bad, just not worth the hype surrounding him.
 
Sell high candidates not directly affected by draft (ex. guys like C Taylor, Furry, Frye, Desmond Clark, etc are not included):

MJD (He's the future and a large part of the present in JAX, but I don't think he's a Top-10 RB)

F Taylor (Inked LT deal in Jax. He's the past and still a large part of the present in JAX, but MJD will eat into his stats for the rest of his career).

Betts (In some leagues, he posted Top-10 stats last year. At best, Portis will steal 1/2 his touches. At worst, Betts may be a 75-carry guy this year).

McAllister (I see last year as his upside. When Duece leaves in '08, who's to say he won't land in another RBBC??).

Kitna (Only 3-4 bad starts away from a permanent NFL benching).

Brees (Much like Duece, I see last year as Brees upside).

Young (The hype is getting out of control...capitalize on it).

Colston (My ultimate sell-high candidate).

Cooley (I just don't see him as a Top-5 TE again)

Watson (The Pats added Moss, Stallworth and Welker...there's not enough balls for Watson)

 
3. D. McNabb - hasn't been healthy in 5 seasons. blown knee wipes out his rushing ability, one of his greatest assets. drop him like a hot potato to that chump who believes McNabb is a de facto franchise , top 10 'must-have' fantasy QB. When's he's hurt by week 6, you'll thank me..
:thumbup: yes we will all thank nygiants56 for his prophetic powers of predicting a mcnabb injury
 
3. D. McNabb - hasn't been healthy in 5 seasons. blown knee wipes out his rushing ability, one of his greatest assets. drop him like a hot potato to that chump who believes McNabb is a de facto franchise , top 10 'must-have' fantasy QB. When's he's hurt by week 6, you'll thank me..

4. Brian Westbrook - he'll start out hot, and either get hurt, or will suffer at the hands of another D. McNabb injury. Kolb is a lousy backup to throw in , this season. If/when McNabb gets hurt, this whole offense should shutdown.

Westbrook has his own injury woes, last season was DEFINITELY the high water mark interms of rushing numbers, he's likely to fall back to 600-700 rush yards..
:ph34r: You're a little too quick to predict injuries. But let's concentrate on Westbrook. First, why would Westbrook regress after McNabb injury? Look at last year. Westbrook obviously excelled with Garcia, you don't think he could excel with someone else? Going into the season, Garcia was thought of to be a joke but look at what he accomplished. Look at what AJ Feeley accomplished in his game? I think it's safe to say it's the system and the Eagles having any QB ready to play. Further, you're underrating the Eagles offensive line. It's one of the best in the league, and last year showed why they should run more.

Second, look at the numbers you predicted. 600-700? That's about 50% of what he accomplished last year. And remember, he missed 1 game and had week 17s game with 1 carry. He had almost 300 yards in 3 games versus the GIANTS last year alone!

The only question is his health. Aside from a small knee injury last year, he sustained his health incredibly, especially considering the fact that he had such a large workload.

In other words, if he stays healthy, he's a stud. There are plenty of people who think like NYG56. Clearly then, he's a buy low.

 
Sell high candidates not directly affected by draft (ex. guys like C Taylor, Furry, Frye, Desmond Clark, etc are not included):

MJD (He's the future and a large part of the present in JAX, but I don't think he's a Top-10 RB)

F Taylor (Inked LT deal in Jax. He's the past and still a large part of the present in JAX, but MJD will eat into his stats for the rest of his career).

Betts (In some leagues, he posted Top-10 stats last year. At best, Portis will steal 1/2 his touches. At worst, Betts may be a 75-carry guy this year).

McAllister (I see last year as his upside. When Duece leaves in '08, who's to say he won't land in another RBBC??).

Kitna (Only 3-4 bad starts away from a permanent NFL benching).

Brees (Much like Duece, I see last year as Brees upside).

Young (The hype is getting out of control...capitalize on it).

Colston (My ultimate sell-high candidate).

Cooley (I just don't see him as a Top-5 TE again)

Watson (The Pats added Moss, Stallworth and Welker...there's not enough balls for Watson)
Agree totally with MJD and Colston. If I owned Colston I would trade him in a heartbeat right now. He is my #1 sell-high.
 
For those that are really down on Colston:

What have you seen that makes you think his 06 was a fluke? Is it "playing the averages", or was there a telltale sign that he can't keep it up?

 
I appreciate the write-up and effort. However, a player must have a high value before you can sell high. None of the players you mentioned have above mediocre value. If I have any of the players that you have listed, I am holding onto them. Reason being: I ain't getting squat out of them so, I may has well hold on to them for bye-week fillers.

 
Agree totally with MJD and Colston. If I owned Colston I would trade him in a heartbeat right now. He is my #1 sell-high.
I agree w/ the MJD sell high.. people are valuing him like a top 10 or 12 back in redrafts; thats nutz.However, I disagree w/ Colston. I have been drafting Colston right next too Plax and TJ Hous (usually early 4th)... thats about right for his value IMO.
 
If SA starts out the season looking like his old self, what would be a fair asking price in a dynasty? I would think you could get a younger developing RB with lots of potential, like Benson or Maroney, plus maybe an upgrade elsewhere. Sound about right?
Personally, I'd be hard pressed to give up a Benson or Maroney for SA right now in a dynasty. Maybe if your in the running for a championship this year and you need that one stud rb to get you over the hump. However, Benson and Maroney have the opportunity in front of them to becoming number 1 running backs. Will it happen....maybe / maybe not. But I'm not taking back a 30 year old runningback, coming off a foot fracture, with a declining oline for a runningback that has an opportunity to become a stud. I'd much rather roll the dice with one of the young ones at this point.
 

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