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[Eminence]

What players on your team are having years you were afraid might happen?

Beanie Wells, hamstring. Losing carries, Levi Brown hurt.

Michael Turner, looking older. Losing carries, more developed passing game.

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Now we can keep these players on our teams and pray for a miracle or we can liquidize your current assets.

I'm try moving Beanie for Mark Sanchez, Dennis Pita types. Because by end of season, he will likely be perceived as junk.

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Don't freak out over Week 1 but getting that last minute value for Trent Richardson could save your season. As it turns out, the Browns offense still sucks.

 

[Timmay]

Mark Ingram....still sucks and doesnt get enough carries.

 

[Banger]

Chris Johnson....I'm certainly not giving up hope but week 1 wasn't encouraging....

 

[BroadwayG]

Freddavis

 

[haterade]

D will

 

[Abspara]

Chris Johnson....I'm certainly not giving up hope but week 1 wasn't encouraging....

CJ was bad but don't neglect the O line play of the Titans. it was absolutely horrendous. No RB can produce if the O line doesn't give the RB opportunity. CJ should have a better game this week.

 

[Warhogs]

Peyton Manning. I have the depth at QB and he is showing that he is healthy and can still play at a high level. Maybe the last chance for me to actually get solid value for him?

 

[lowery21]

CJ4 ...and honestly, going forward, I'm slightly nervous about Rice. He's just not the bell cow in that O anymore, despite what they are saying. Don't get me wrong, he's still the best in the business, I just think it might be lesser than this year as they air it out.

 

[Sweet Love]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

they were down big the whole game, why run?

 

[rzrback77]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

they were down big the whole game, why run?

Spriles will not be a large factor in their rushing attack and probably will not score as many TDs as a year ago. His value will go up with injuries either to RBs or WRs.

 

[steveski]

Chris Johnson....I'm certainly not giving up hope but week 1 wasn't encouraging....

CJ was bad but don't neglect the O line play of the Titans. it was absolutely horrendous. No RB can produce if the O line doesn't give the RB opportunity. CJ should have a better game this week.

Also, don't neglect the Pats defense.

 

[ShutdownStranger80]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

Yeah I was playing against Sproles his fantasy day was saved by a late game TD

 

[Nucker101]

Michael Vick. I will definitely try to move him after he has a big game. QB's went fast and furious and my backup QB is Russell Wilson so I'm trying to move Vick before he gets injured and puts me in a tough spot. Also looking to move Ryan Williams in that same league, the Cardinals offensive line looks horrible and I don't think either of Wells or R.Williams will be worth much.

 

[habsfan]

Chris Johnson....I'm certainly not giving up hope but week 1 wasn't encouraging....

CJ was bad but don't neglect the O line play of the Titans. it was absolutely horrendous. No RB can produce if the O line doesn't give the RB opportunity. CJ should have a better game this week.

I suspect you're right given it would be pretty hard to slide under the bar he set last week. What do you attribute the rebound to?

 

[pollardsvision]

D will

I believe you'll have to bring a lot of cash with you at closing on that one. No way you're selling DWill for more than you owe on the mortgage.

 

[Shutout]

Clearance stickers:

Fred Davis: I think the TE position is much more the "man left out" in what they are trying to do in Washington. I know, back in the day when the Broncos were awesome that this was not the case, but the year one Redskins aren't the 1996-1998 Broncos either. I think there are some growing pains to go through and it will comes at the sacrifice to the least important offensive position in that sysyem for a while.

Michael Turner: In ppr, there's just no reason to keep him. I've read some good reasoned discussions the past few days on actually buying him and holding but overall, especially in PPR, I don't see the point. You can get a better filler somewhere else. Again, I can see the arguments for him by the folks that have posted it but as a previous long-time Turner owner, my bias on this one is that he simply doesn't pass my personal eyeball test anymore. I'm sure he may have a good game or two here or there but not for the whole season.



Reduced Red tags:

DWIL:I actually think it can't possibly get worse (so by default, he must be better than I think right now). So, yeah, I would sell if there was a buyer at the door and I would sell cheap but I also won't expend the effort to carry him from door to door trying to sell him. Would be a tough sell right now.

Chris Johnson:My feelings on CJ are pretty well known. Nothing to say here except, yes, all the proponets are right, he WILL have his moments. The problem is its almost 50/50 hit or miss so you have to relegate yourself to starting him 100% of the time to capitalize on it.

No Discounts:

Beanie Wells and Ryan Williams:This is a team issue, not a person issue. I think its silly to sell either YOUNG RB at a steep discount right now in dynasty. They may be garbage for now; maybe the season, but I think its short-sighted to wash your hands. My only adivce is if you have neither, don't go get either and if you have one, get the other cheap and you might just get lucky and be able to use one of them in December when you need a RB most.

Wes Welker: Sunday evening, I found myself pondering if it was time to stop expecting anything from Welker. But after looking at the situation some more, I think if you can come to grips that he isn't a top 5 guy in PPR, but can accept that he is a very solid WR2 with WR1 potential on any given week, regardless of the matchup, I think you can come around to deciding on holding steady. Yes, its a let-down based on what he has been (and probably what you paid to draft/trade for him a few weeks ago), but I think he simply is what he is and what he is isn't bad. You can do worse. I'm just as happy to have him as I am some of the other guys you might be trying to think of to trade him for.

 

[TheFanatic]

Chris Johnson....I'm certainly not giving up hope but week 1 wasn't encouraging....

CJ was bad but don't neglect the O line play of the Titans. it was absolutely horrendous. No RB can produce if the O line doesn't give the RB opportunity. CJ should have a better game this week.

I suspect you're right given it would be pretty hard to slide under the bar he set last week. What do you attribute the rebound to?

I'm trying to figure this out too. So all 5 guys on the line will play better this week magically?

 

[rjv]

CJ4 ...and honestly, going forward, I'm slightly nervous about Rice. He's just not the bell cow in that O anymore, despite what they are saying. Don't get me wrong, he's still the best in the business, I just think it might be lesser than this year as they air it out.

Not the bell cow? I have no idea where you get that logic.

 

[xenith]

CJ4 ...and honestly, going forward, I'm slightly nervous about Rice. He's just not the bell cow in that O anymore, despite what they are saying. Don't get me wrong, he's still the best in the business, I just think it might be lesser than this year as they air it out.

Not the bell cow? I have no idea where you get that logic.

I'm not gonna panic on Ray Rice on ony 1 game w/ 10 carries. They still gave him the ball in goal line mode, who's complaining w/ 2 TDs and 90+ scrimmmige yds? Any openings in your league?That said, I'd be willing to liquiudate Ryan Williams, Kendell Hunter, and even Ben Tate. If Foster dominates carries on a Q tag in a lopsided win, I see no need to handcuff.

 

[lowery21]

Like I said, I'm nowhere near panicking. It just seems like he could possibly have a somewhat lesser year with the success of this new o. I could have said it better.

 

[DoubleG]

I agree witht the posters who mentioned Fred Davis. Not only did have only 4 targets, but after Garcon left the game, RG3 was looking to Robinson, not Fred D. Unless his targets increase dramatically over the next few weeks, it could be a long season for those who Davis as the TE1. His prodcuction wont be near what the expectations were on only 4-5 looks a game.

 

[dagwood]

Chris Johnson....I'm certainly not giving up hope but week 1 wasn't encouraging....

CJ was bad but don't neglect the O line play of the Titans. it was absolutely horrendous. No RB can produce if the O line doesn't give the RB opportunity. CJ should have a better game this week.

Actually I am opening preliminary trade talks with CJ owner in my league. I think he will struggle against SD defense and I may be able to steal him next week. Look what SD did to McFadden.

 

[dagwood]

CJ4 ...and honestly, going forward, I'm slightly nervous about Rice. He's just not the bell cow in that O anymore, despite what they are saying. Don't get me wrong, he's still the best in the business, I just think it might be lesser than this year as they air it out.

Not the bell cow? I have no idea where you get that logic.

I'm not gonna panic on Ray Rice on ony 1 game w/ 10 carries. They still gave him the ball in goal line mode, who's complaining w/ 2 TDs and 90+ scrimmmige yds? Any openings in your league?That said, I'd be willing to liquiudate Ryan Williams, Kendell Hunter, and even Ben Tate. If Foster dominates carries on a Q tag in a lopsided win, I see no need to handcuff.

Ray Rice sat out a chunk of the second half because of the big lead they had.

 

[meatwad1]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

Yeah I was playing against Sproles his fantasy day was saved by a late game TD

You could say a lot of guys days were saved by a TD. Sproiles will be fine...he is down for a consistent 10 - 20 points per game in ppr, plus there will probably be a game or two when he gets a special teams score..

 

[ponchsox]

CJ4 ...and honestly, going forward, I'm slightly nervous about Rice. He's just not the bell cow in that O anymore, despite what they are saying. Don't get me wrong, he's still the best in the business, I just think it might be lesser than this year as they air it out.

 

[DansRams]

Chris Johnson....I'm certainly not giving up hope but week 1 wasn't encouraging....

CJ was bad but don't neglect the O line play of the Titans. it was absolutely horrendous. No RB can produce if the O line doesn't give the RB opportunity. CJ should have a better game this week.

Did they change the Oline

 

[plastik]

CJ4 ...and honestly, going forward, I'm slightly nervous about Rice. He's just not the bell cow in that O anymore, despite what they are saying. Don't get me wrong, he's still the best in the business, I just think it might be lesser than this year as they air it out.

Not the bell cow? I have no idea where you get that logic.

I'm not gonna panic on Ray Rice on ony 1 game w/ 10 carries. They still gave him the ball in goal line mode, who's complaining w/ 2 TDs and 90+ scrimmmige yds? Any openings in your league?

Ray Rice looked fantastic, and the improved passing game opened up some huge lanes for him. I'd actually upgrade Rice based on this game, as it looks like his ypc have a reasonable chance of improving in 2012. Personally, as a Rice owner, I'd prefer higher ypc and fewer carries to keep him from wearing down. In this game specifically, they pulled Rice on the last few drives because the game was out of hand. If they hadn't, his line would have likely included 5-7 more carries for another 30-40 yards, imho. I don't think there's anything to be worried about based on this game.

 

[lowery21]

So you guys think Rice will have as many points this year as last? In my league he touched the ball 367 times for a total of 360 points in '11. I don't think he'll replicate that output. All I was saying.

 

[footballnerd]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

5 recs and not sure the targets but assume its about 7, a TD, and a 2 pt conversion.....dude got some action. Even more if they actually ran the ball that game. Ingram sucking early will pay off later for sproles.

 

[Shutout]

For all the Ray Rice owners, I actually would be thrilled if I were you. To get the production with about half the pounding? I like that for my chances of having a guy stay healthier for the year.

The only thing that would worry me about him right now is if they get themselves into a game and aren't giving him as many touches and he DOESN'T get those TDs, then you might find yourself in games where he ends up 9/45 and a couple of catches and that's a pretty weak day for him.

 

[49er fan]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

5 recs and not sure the targets but assume its about 7, a TD, and a 2 pt conversion.....dude got some action. Even more if they actually ran the ball that game. Ingram sucking early will pay off later for sproles.

I took Sproles in the late 2nd round of a 14 team 0.5ppr with a point per 25 return yards. I must say, I was a little concerned with the amount of action he saw. Yea, he ended up with nice numbers, but without the 2pt convo and the garbage time TD, his day would have sucked. It's only one week, and Ingram/Thomas leave a lot to be desired in the run game, so Sproles should see an increased amount of action in the coming weeks.

 

[Mr Rodgers neighborhood]

Mark Ingram....still sucks and doesnt get enough carries.

Not sure you can judge him on one game. Every player not named Jimmy Graham on the saints offense looked awful last week. Ingram comes into play when the saints are up and he's grinding the clock, or in the redzone. He's not the guy to have when the Saints are playing catch up... That's not news to anyone, so I'm curious why you're out on him after one game... Did you not know what you were getting into?

 

[Nucker101]

Mark Ingram....still sucks and doesnt get enough carries.

Not sure you can judge him on one game. Every player not named Jimmy Graham on the saints offense looked awful last week. Ingram comes into play when the saints are up and he's grinding the clock, or in the redzone. He's not the guy to have when the Saints are playing catch up... That's not news to anyone, so I'm curious why you're out on him after one game... Did you not know what you were getting into?

Lance Moore was solid. I decided to avoid any of the Saints RB's this year, their defense looks weak and they'll probably have to throw the ball quite a bit. I know that they usually do pass the ball a ton and still find a way to have valuable rb's, but I think this year we'll see less carries for Ingram and Thomas and more Sproles when they're in a shootout or trailing games. The loss of Nicks hurts them big time as well. The only RB I like is Sproles(and only in ppr).

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Cool thread, fun read

 

[Jack White]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

He only averaged 5.5 rush attempts per game last year.If Ingram is healthy and productive, that might get cut in half this year.

 

[Timmay]

Mark Ingram....still sucks and doesnt get enough carries.

Not sure you can judge him on one game. Every player not named Jimmy Graham on the saints offense looked awful last week. Ingram comes into play when the saints are up and he's grinding the clock, or in the redzone. He's not the guy to have when the Saints are playing catch up... That's not news to anyone, so I'm curious why you're out on him after one game... Did you not know what you were getting into?

Lance Moore was solid. I decided to avoid any of the Saints RB's this year, their defense looks weak and they'll probably have to throw the ball quite a bit. I know that they usually do pass the ball a ton and still find a way to have valuable rb's, but I think this year we'll see less carries for Ingram and Thomas and more Sproles when they're in a shootout or trailing games. The loss of Nicks hurts them big time as well. The only RB I like is Sproles(and only in ppr).

I knew what i was getting into with Ingram because i had the schmuck last year, i think that is why i am wanting to give up on him after 1 game this year. He pissed me off so much last year, i dont know why i took him this year, but i saw value at the spot i chose him at, so i went with it. Needless to say, never again, unless he changes teams.

 

[Hoosier16]

What players on your team are having years you were afraid might happen?Beanie Wells, hamstring. Losing carries, Levi Brown hurt.

That one doesn't bother me. I think the performance of Williams just swung the carries back to Beanie.

Mark Ingram....still sucks and doesnt get enough carries.

That one bothers me a lot. Not so much that he sucks, but their defense is so bad that he may not be in the game enough to be relevant.

 

[Hoosier16]

and even Ben Tate. If Foster dominates carries on a Q tag in a lopsided win, I see no need to handcuff.

I don't think you'll get much in a redraft and in a dynasty, his value will be much higher next year as he approaches FA.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I've never owned a RB so reliant on passing numbers, so I am starting to wonder whether Sproles was worth the cost...he was "fine" for me in my PPR in week one, but not one rushing attempt?

they were down big the whole game, why run?

Spriles will not be a large factor in their rushing attack and probably will not score as many TDs as a year ago. His value will go up with injuries either to RBs or WRs.

As a Saints fan I completely disagree. He will get his touches. He is the most dynamic player they have in the backfield.

 

[Diamond One]

Too late to add any Carolina RB?

 

[lowery21]

So, as I was saying about Ray Rice and his possible reduced role in this new offense.....

 

[DoubleG]

I agree witht the posters who mentioned Fred Davis. Not only did have only 4 targets, but after Garcon left the game, RG3 was looking to Robinson, not Fred D. Unless his targets increase dramatically over the next few weeks, it could be a long season for those who Davis as the TE1. His prodcuction wont be near what the expectations were on only 4-5 looks a game.

 

[Rick James]

I agree witht the posters who mentioned Fred Davis. Not only did have only 4 targets, but after Garcon left the game, RG3 was looking to Robinson, not Fred D. Unless his targets increase dramatically over the next few weeks, it could be a long season for those who Davis as the TE1. His prodcuction wont be near what the expectations were on only 4-5 looks a game.

Yup. Dropping him today.

 

[solorca]

I agree witht the posters who mentioned Fred Davis. Not only did have only 4 targets, but after Garcon left the game, RG3 was looking to Robinson, not Fred D. Unless his targets increase dramatically over the next few weeks, it could be a long season for those who Davis as the TE1. His prodcuction wont be near what the expectations were on only 4-5 looks a game.

Yup. Dropping him today.

People in my league reamed a guy for dropping Fred Davis to pick up Dennis Pitta last week. Looks like he made the right decision.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I agree witht the posters who mentioned Fred Davis. Not only did have only 4 targets, but after Garcon left the game, RG3 was looking to Robinson, not Fred D. Unless his targets increase dramatically over the next few weeks, it could be a long season for those who Davis as the TE1. His prodcuction wont be near what the expectations were on only 4-5 looks a game.

Yup. Dropping him today.

People in my league reamed a guy for dropping Fred Davis to pick up Dennis Pitta last week. Looks like he made the right decision.

Pitta does appear to be a better choice than Davis right now. No question about that. But I'm not hitting the panic button yet on Davis either. His production has been poor to say the least, but he was the most targeted player on the Redskins yesterday.

 

[LittlePhatty]

So, as I was saying about Ray Rice and his possible reduced role in this new offense.....

99 rushing, 53 receiving in week 2. It's hard to talk about "pace" in week two, but he's on track to be a Top 5 running back.There aren't a lot of RBs I'd want to have instead of him.

 

[lowery21]

Well, of course but exactly what I was made fun of for being concerned about is happening. Guy averaging 6 yards a cary is given blitz pickup duty on entire final drive. Thank goodness he broke 50 rec so I at least got 10 out of him. Hopefully the coaches idiocy will subside with this loss.

 

[Faust]

Chris Johnson....I'm certainly not giving up hope but week 1 wasn't encouraging....

CJ was bad but don't neglect the O line play of the Titans. it was absolutely horrendous. No RB can produce if the O line doesn't give the RB opportunity. CJ should have a better game this week.

Did they change the Oline

The stock on CJ is sinking fast...I would be curious to know what he is fetching in any trades in any FBG members leagues right now...

 

[sporthenry]

Well, of course but exactly what I was made fun of for being concerned about is happening. Guy averaging 6 yards a cary is given blitz pickup duty on entire final drive. Thank goodness he broke 50 rec so I at least got 10 out of him. Hopefully the coaches idiocy will subside with this loss.

I think you have to calm down a bit. Rice will continue to get his. Sure, I'd like to see him get more carries but as someone mentioned, they are keeping the tread on his tires very fresh. As you alluded to, the Ravens got a wake up call and should recognize they have to run the ball more and on top of that, they play in an outside division in the North so I doubt you'll see Flacco throw it 42 times in subfreezing weather as they play the Steelers right as playoffs races start to heat up. I think he is still the safest RB in the league and am very happy to have him. Foster has dominated very weak opponents and Tate vultured 2 TDs while he is outpacing McCoy who won't replicate 20 TDs.