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[Guest]

If I were a betting person, I'd bet that he doesn't lose his job. The general public doesn't care that much about self-boasting as long as you'rmashable.com/2015/01/30/super-bowl-puppy-ad/e not lying about the news every night.

I bet he's out of the anchor chair by end of the year latest. News is about at least the perception of credibility and NBC will have this hanging. He'll be a laughing stock and make them one. Everyhing he says will be questioned and memed.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

Is anyone saying that it was OK for Kyle to lie?

And do you think it would be more concerning for a military guy to be a liar, or for someone that we're supposed to trust for important news?

And why does it matter to you what people in one thread are saying compared to another? You don't think it's a concern for a major news person to be a liar? Especially when it appears that he has now lied even in his new story?

 

[tommyGunZ]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

Is anyone saying that it was OK for Kyle to lie?

And do you think it would be more concerning for a military guy to be a liar, or for someone that we're supposed to trust for important news?

And why does it matter to you what people in one thread are saying compared to another? You don't think it's a concern for a major news person to be a liar? Especially when it appears that he has now lied even in his new story?

I don't know - as I said I haven't been in that thread. Just seems odd that Kyle seems to be getting hero worship (from what I've seen via social media) while those same folks are calling for Williams' head.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.

About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

One guy's job is to deliver and analyze the news and be a trusted source of information for people about what's going on around the world.

The other guy's job was to kill people with a rifle.

Perhaps people feel these two people should be held to different standards based on their occupations.

 

[SIDA!]

How did this all come out?

Someone else broke the story or did he know it was coming out and he admitted it before it did?

Soldiers in the other helicopters outed him.

why did it take them 12 yrs to do so?

He hasn't been saying this for 12 years that we know of. He started misremembering back in 2013 or so as I understand it.

He has described the incident several times including right after it happened.

The first articles I read on this yesterday when the story broke was that he accurately recounted the events when they happened in 2003. But perhaps, they had it wrong.

 

[Jack White]

Brian Williams long history of lies:

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/

 

[Abraham]

Who cares.

 

[The General]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

Is anyone saying that it was OK for Kyle to lie?And do you think it would be more concerning for a military guy to be a liar, or for someone that we're supposed to trust for important news?

And why does it matter to you what people in one thread are saying compared to another? You don't think it's a concern for a major news person to be a liar? Especially when it appears that he has now lied even in his new story?

I don't know - as I said I haven't been in that thread. Just seems odd that Kyle seems to be getting hero worship (from what I've seen via social media) while those same folks are calling for Williams' head.

As it pertains to the American Sniper thread it's a little different to call a soldier a state sponsored murder coward than to call out a talking head spray tan news reader out for making up war stories about when he dressed up in camo on vacation.Personally I don't care what happens to Williams, he seems like a nice guy in interviews who doesn't take himself too seriously but also seems like he pretty much just reads lines and doesn't add too much to the "news". Can't say I have ever really watched the NBC nightly news so maybe I'm wrong.

This story is a big who cares in my book. Fire him don't fire him whatever. He'll pop up somewhere else either way because he is a name.

 

[Quez]

I hope this guy goes away so people quit bumping those stupid rap videos. Ok, the 1st one 2 years ago was funny. Someone took a lot of time chopping up his recordings, so it was worth making its rounds on the internet. 2 years later, and half of snoops catalog, and they are still doing it... eventually the funny runs out... it's dumb now.

 

[Tom Servo]

Brian Williams long history of lies:

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/

Antiwar.com? Seriously?

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Brian Williams long history of lies:

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/

Nothing in that link shows a "long history" of anything. It's just a conspiracy theory about Brian Williams being part of a war propaganda machine.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I like Brian Williams regardless of what he said. People make mistakes, get over it.

I like my anchors with a bit more credibility.

Probably hippling, but honestly, why do you care? TV news anchors are basically people who read well and (usually) look good.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.

About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

One guy's job is to deliver and analyze the news and be a trusted source of information for people about what's going on around the world.

The other guy's job was to kill people with a rifle.

Perhaps people feel these two people should be held to different standards based on their occupations.

I don't really watch the network nightly news shows. Does Brian Williams really analyze news? Isn't the nightly news a highly orchestrated and heavily produced show with hundreds of people involved in creating it? Does Brian Williams make something up that goes on air and the everyone involved in the show says, "oh, ok, that must be true. Brian Williams said it. Let's not fact-check it." As if they didn't already create all the copy.

Obviously, if the guy is a liar, he deserves to be called a liar, but I don't get what this stuff has to do with his ability to deliver the news on TV.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.

About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

One guy's job is to deliver and analyze the news and be a trusted source of information for people about what's going on around the world.

The other guy's job was to kill people with a rifle.

Perhaps people feel these two people should be held to different standards based on their occupations.

I don't really watch the network nightly news shows. Does Brian Williams really analyze news? Isn't the nightly news a highly orchestrated and heavily produced show with hundreds of people involved in creating it? Does Brian Williams make something up that goes on air and the everyone involved in the show says, "oh, ok, that must be true. Brian Williams said it. Let's not fact-check it." As if they didn't already create all the copy.

Obviously, if the guy is a liar, he deserves to be called a liar, but I don't get what this stuff has to do with his ability to deliver the news on TV.

Because the news should be reporting fact and his viewers can't trust him?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.

About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

One guy's job is to deliver and analyze the news and be a trusted source of information for people about what's going on around the world.

The other guy's job was to kill people with a rifle.

Perhaps people feel these two people should be held to different standards based on their occupations.

I don't really watch the network nightly news shows. Does Brian Williams really analyze news? Isn't the nightly news a highly orchestrated and heavily produced show with hundreds of people involved in creating it? Does Brian Williams make something up that goes on air and the everyone involved in the show says, "oh, ok, that must be true. Brian Williams said it. Let's not fact-check it." As if they didn't already create all the copy.

Obviously, if the guy is a liar, he deserves to be called a liar, but I don't get what this stuff has to do with his ability to deliver the news on TV.

Because the news should be reporting fact and his viewers can't trust him?

Again, do you honestly think that he would make something up on the air? Do you think that he generates the content that goes on the air? He is reading stories that other people have created.

 

[jonessed]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

One guy's job is to deliver and analyze the news and be a trusted source of information for people about what's going on around the world.

The other guy's job was to kill people with a rifle.

Perhaps people feel these two people should be held to different standards based on their occupations.

I don't really watch the network nightly news shows. Does Brian Williams really analyze news? Isn't the nightly news a highly orchestrated and heavily produced show with hundreds of people involved in creating it? Does Brian Williams make something up that goes on air and the everyone involved in the show says, "oh, ok, that must be true. Brian Williams said it. Let's not fact-check it." As if they didn't already create all the copy.

Obviously, if the guy is a liar, he deserves to be called a liar, but I don't get what this stuff has to do with his ability to deliver the news on TV.

Because the news should be reporting fact and his viewers can't trust him?

Again, do you honestly think that he would make something up on the air? Do you think that he generates the content that goes on the air? He is reading stories that other people have created.

The big names have a lot more power than your every day news anchor with regard to how and what they present.

 

[Hang 10]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.

About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

One guy's job is to deliver and analyze the news and be a trusted source of information for people about what's going on around the world.

The other guy's job was to kill people with a rifle.

Perhaps people feel these two people should be held to different standards based on their occupations.

I don't really watch the network nightly news shows. Does Brian Williams really analyze news? Isn't the nightly news a highly orchestrated and heavily produced show with hundreds of people involved in creating it? Does Brian Williams make something up that goes on air and the everyone involved in the show says, "oh, ok, that must be true. Brian Williams said it. Let's not fact-check it." As if they didn't already create all the copy.

Obviously, if the guy is a liar, he deserves to be called a liar, but I don't get what this stuff has to do with his ability to deliver the news on TV.

Because the news should be reporting fact and his viewers can't trust him?

Again, do you honestly think that he would make something up on the air? Do you think that he generates the content that goes on the air? He is reading stories that other people have created.

Uh, yes I do. He made something up on the air just last week. There's a whole thread about it here: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=724521&page=1

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I guess I'm talking about actual news stories and not personal anecdotes, but I will be frank and say that I had not actually read the story of how this transpired. I thought that it was something that he had said in an interview or something. It definitely makes him look pretty bad. I still don't know that it would really make me question any of the facts about stories not involving him, but I am not really a consumer of TV news and would never consider the personal thoughts or ideas of anchor.

 

[Das Boot]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.

About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

One guy's job is to deliver and analyze the news and be a trusted source of information for people about what's going on around the world.

The other guy's job was to kill people with a rifle.

Perhaps people feel these two people should be held to different standards based on their occupations.

I don't really watch the network nightly news shows. Does Brian Williams really analyze news? Isn't the nightly news a highly orchestrated and heavily produced show with hundreds of people involved in creating it? Does Brian Williams make something up that goes on air and the everyone involved in the show says, "oh, ok, that must be true. Brian Williams said it. Let's not fact-check it." As if they didn't already create all the copy.

Obviously, if the guy is a liar, he deserves to be called a liar, but I don't get what this stuff has to do with his ability to deliver the news on TV.

Because the news should be reporting fact and his viewers can't trust him?

This seems like basic common sense to me.

 

[The General]

This is pretty great: https://grabien.com/feature.php?id=17&from=allfeatures

 

[GroveDiesel]

I haven't spent any time in the American Sniper thread - are the same folks who are blasting Williams here also blasting the Sniper in that thread?

No.About 90% are ripping The State News Liar, while 90% are fellating The State Sniper Murderer.

That seems odd. It's okay for the Sniper to lie, but not Williams? Not sure how folks reconcile that position.

One guy's job is to deliver and analyze the news and be a trusted source of information for people about what's going on around the world.

The other guy's job was to kill people with a rifle.

Perhaps people feel these two people should be held to different standards based on their occupations.

I don't really watch the network nightly news shows. Does Brian Williams really analyze news? Isn't the nightly news a highly orchestrated and heavily produced show with hundreds of people involved in creating it? Does Brian Williams make something up that goes on air and the everyone involved in the show says, "oh, ok, that must be true. Brian Williams said it. Let's not fact-check it." As if they didn't already create all the copy.

Obviously, if the guy is a liar, he deserves to be called a liar, but I don't get what this stuff has to do with his ability to deliver the news on TV.

Brian Williams is the head editor for TV News for NBC. So yeah, he's doing a lot more than just reading what is put in front of him. He basically chooses exactly what is aired by NBC News.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I did not know that. I can agree that could be a problem..

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Temporarily taking himself off the air: http://news.yahoo.com/brian-william-taking-himself-air-temporarily-214707487.html

 

[Parrothead]

again - what lie has more effect on regular citizens:

I was in a helicopter that got shot or:

If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.. PERIOD

And we want to fire Brian Williams now? Perspective people..

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The reliability and truth on the media and the kind of government we get are not entirely unrelated.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

So does this change how he reads the words off a paper/prompter?

 

[McGarnicle]

I've been trying hard to have an opinion about this, but in the end I don't care about him or this story. I do hope this whole episode somehow leads him to Jesus.

 

[avoiding injuries]

So does this change how he reads the words off a paper/prompter?

Let's leave Obama out of this.

 

[Tom Servo]

I guess I'm talking about actual news stories and not personal anecdotes, but I will be frank and say that I had not actually read the story of how this transpired. I thought that it was something that he had said in an interview or something. It definitely makes him look pretty bad. I still don't know that it would really make me question any of the facts about stories not involving him, but I am not really a consumer of TV news and would never consider the personal thoughts or ideas of anchor.

So you pulled an uninformed opinion out of your lower intestine? Shocking.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Temporarily taking himself off the air: http://news.yahoo.com/brian-william-taking-himself-air-temporarily-214707487.html

He's probably hoping this story will blow over in a few days and he'll be back. He needs some type of scandal or major news story to break in the next week, and then he can just slide back on TV without too much notice.

 

[Tom Servo]

Temporarily taking himself off the air: http://news.yahoo.com/brian-william-taking-himself-air-temporarily-214707487.html

He's probably hoping this story will blow over in a few days and he'll be back. He needs some type of scandal or major news story to break in the next week, and then he can just slide back on TV without too much notice.

He's playing a long game here; your outrage will fade and your attention focused on some other shiny object. He jumps back in the chair without nothing really lost.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I guess I'm talking about actual news stories and not personal anecdotes, but I will be frank and say that I had not actually read the story of how this transpired. I thought that it was something that he had said in an interview or something. It definitely makes him look pretty bad. I still don't know that it would really make me question any of the facts about stories not involving him, but I am not really a consumer of TV news and would never consider the personal thoughts or ideas of anchor.

So you pulled an uninformed opinion out of your lower intestine? Shocking.

1. I admitted it upon learning more facts.

2. No idea what your beef is.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

again - what lie has more effect on regular citizens:

I was in a helicopter that got shot or:

If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.. PERIOD

Well, considering that the second statement isn't actually a lie...

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

again - what lie has more effect on regular citizens:

I was in a helicopter that got shot or:

If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.. PERIOD

Well, considering that the second statement isn't actually a lie...

It's pretty bad.

Obviously the deception was somewhat limited since most of the other information was out there even in 2009 (when the Fact Check above was done), but it does go beyond weasel words and being slippery IMO.

 

[Hang 10]

again - what lie has more effect on regular citizens:

I was in a helicopter that got shot or:

If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.. PERIOD

Well, considering that the second statement isn't actually a lie...

Didn't it win lie of the year?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Temporarily taking himself off the air: http://news.yahoo.com/brian-william-taking-himself-air-temporarily-214707487.html

He's probably hoping this story will blow over in a few days and he'll be back. He needs some type of scandal or major news story to break in the next week, and then he can just slide back on TV without too much notice.

He's playing a long game here; your outrage will fade and your attention focused on some other shiny object. He jumps back in the chair without nothing really lost.

I assume that was a general "your," since I have expressed no outrage at all. Do I think this makes Williams a ####ty person? Probably, but I don't expect much out of the media, even news anchors, anyway, so this is one of those sarcastic "what a shock" moments.

 

[Jack White]

Brian Williams long history of lies:http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/

Nothing in that link shows a "long history" of anything. It's just a conspiracy theory about Brian Williams being part of a war propaganda machine.

His being a part of the war party's propaganda machine is an irrefutable fact.

 

[saintfool]

Brian Williams long history of lies:http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/

Nothing in that link shows a "long history" of anything. It's just a conspiracy theory about Brian Williams being part of a war propaganda machine.

His being a part of the war party's propaganda machine is an irrefutable fact.

wat?! Are you Noam Chomksy?

 

[Jack White]

Brian Williams long history of lies:http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/

Nothing in that link shows a "long history" of anything. It's just a conspiracy theory about Brian Williams being part of a war propaganda machine.

His being a part of the war party's propaganda machine is an irrefutable fact.

wat?! Are you Noam Chomksy?

Ha, no, Chomsky is a socialist.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

again - what lie has more effect on regular citizens:

I was in a helicopter that got shot or:

If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.. PERIOD

Well, considering that the second statement isn't actually a lie...

It's pretty bad.

Obviously the deception was somewhat limited since most of the other information was out there even in 2009 (when the Fact Check above was done), but it does go beyond weasel words and being slippery IMO.

The difference is that Obama's statements weren't technically lies at the time that he made them, because the law did not exist yet. It's like saying that an athlete is a liar because his team failed to win after he predicted a victory.

 

[JaxBill]

Breaking news

https://twitter.com/ktmsonam/status/564223678062555136/photo/1

 

[flapgreen]

This is a pretty bizarre lie. How can someone as high profile as Williams think you can continually repeat this false story without being called on it?

No ####

 

[MaxThreshold]

again - what lie has more effect on regular citizens:

I was in a helicopter that got shot or:

If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.. PERIOD

Well, considering that the second statement isn't actually a lie...

It's pretty bad.

Obviously the deception was somewhat limited since most of the other information was out there even in 2009 (when the Fact Check above was done), but it does go beyond weasel words and being slippery IMO.

The difference is that Obama's statements weren't technically lies at the time that he made them, because the law did not exist yet. It's like saying that an athlete is a liar because his team failed to win after he predicted a victory.

Yes, they were lies.

The expectation with someone "guaranteeing" a victory is that it's really not a guarantee at all, but a calculated risk with a 50/50 probability of failing. Obama looking at you to your face and promising you would be saving money and keeping your doctor/plan and then NOT letting you do that is the very definition of a lie.

Obama insisted this HUNDREDS of times.

 

[SIDA!]

again - what lie has more effect on regular citizens:

I was in a helicopter that got shot or:

If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.. PERIOD

Well, considering that the second statement isn't actually a lie...

It's pretty bad.

Obviously the deception was somewhat limited since most of the other information was out there even in 2009 (when the Fact Check above was done), but it does go beyond weasel words and being slippery IMO.

The difference is that Obama's statements weren't technically lies at the time that he made them, because the law did not exist yet. It's like saying that an athlete is a liar because his team failed to win after he predicted a victory.

In Retukes world, politicians seldom lie apparently.

 

[Judge Smails]

1) I actually like Brian Williams. Solid talking head news guy, good interview when on talk shows, has some comedic skills.

2) Couldn't understand why anyone with his grill in HD every day wouldn't get their teeth straightened. Maybe Ron Burgundy

3) He's done

 

[tom22406]

Best of Brian Williams

1-http://woozypuppies.tumblr.com/image/110430237104

2-https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9DWvveCUAI29HT.jpg

3-http://36.media.tumblr.com/848ead5a766333a56d7198dac1d49294/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo5_r1_1280.png

4-http://40.media.tumblr.com/7aab93d9695b2344e9939490fa1b9fd9/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo6_500.jpg

5-http://36.media.tumblr.com/1735691762e9621266f16616d1e753e8/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo10_1280.jpg

6-http://40.media.tumblr.com/2402a9359f6bf78ca5c04165f6596bc4/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo3_1280.png

7-http://41.media.tumblr.com/09db35f1791b2173b1d62e541df195b2/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo4_1280.jpg

 

[Jack White]

Best of Brian Williams

1-http://woozypuppies.tumblr.com/image/110430237104

2-https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9DWvveCUAI29HT.jpg

3-http://36.media.tumblr.com/848ead5a766333a56d7198dac1d49294/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo5_r1_1280.png

4-http://40.media.tumblr.com/7aab93d9695b2344e9939490fa1b9fd9/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo6_500.jpg

5-http://36.media.tumblr.com/1735691762e9621266f16616d1e753e8/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo10_1280.jpg

6-http://40.media.tumblr.com/2402a9359f6bf78ca5c04165f6596bc4/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo3_1280.png

7-http://41.media.tumblr.com/09db35f1791b2173b1d62e541df195b2/tumblr_njg3if2PS51r5f0wvo4_1280.jpg

Nize!

 

[tom22406]

The best one yet

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Brian-Williams-Tupac.jpg

 

[Jack White]

Brian Williams long history of lies:http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/

Antiwar.com? Seriously?

Perhaps you can publish a list of approved sites people are allowed to link to on a forum of ideas, discussions and opinions.

 

[saintfool]

Brian Williams long history of lies:http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/02/05/the-sins-of-brian-williams/

Antiwar.com? Seriously?

Perhaps you can publish a list of approved sites people are allowed to link to on a forum of ideas, discussions and opinions.

It's hard to take the article and its author seriously, guy. You might as well as chosen a John Birch Society for commentary.

Justin Raimondo is the editorial director of Antiwar.com, and a senior fellow at the Randolph Bourne Institute. He is a contributing editor at The American Conservative, and writes a monthly column for Chronicles. He is the author of Reclaiming the American Right: The Lost Legacy of the Conservative Movement [Center for Libertarian Studies, 1993; Intercollegiate Studies Institute, 2000], and An Enemy of the State: The Life of Murray N. Rothbard [Prometheus Books, 2000].