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Lori Laughlin & Felicity Huffman BUSTED! (1 Viewer)

The latest episode also discusses the completely legal "back door" for college admissions - the development department.  It features an anonymous interview with a former development person at University of North Carolina discussing donations to the school and how different monetary levels impact admissions decisions.
And water's wet. The problem is that's really only for the uber rich and Lori and Felicity don't qualify. They can't drop $20 million on a new wing. This guy provided a service for those with insane income, but not build-a-wing insane income. The problem is he laundered the money through a charitable donation and thus broke tax laws. Nobody cares of someone donates a wing to a university to get their nimwit an outstanding college degree, but these folks are getting taken to the woodshed. Not gonna lie, part of me feels bad for them. Not too bad, because I know poorer kids are getting pushed down, but I do feel a little bad. 

 
And water's wet. The problem is that's really only for the uber rich and Lori and Felicity don't qualify. They can't drop $20 million on a new wing. This guy provided a service for those with insane income, but not build-a-wing insane income. The problem is he laundered the money through a charitable donation and thus broke tax laws. Nobody cares of someone donates a wing to a university to get their nimwit an outstanding college degree, but these folks are getting taken to the woodshed. Not gonna lie, part of me feels bad for them. Not too bad, because I know poorer kids are getting pushed down, but I do feel a little bad. 
The price wasn't nearly that high for North Carolina.  $500,000 gets a completely mediocre student ("99% probably going to get in" unless your grades are "horrific").  $1,000,000 gets absolutely anyone in so long as you have a pulse and don't have multiple felonies on your record.

 
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I'm loving the parts in the podcast where they are reading the wire transcripts and the main dude is calling his clients saying "Hey, I'm being audited by the IRS. Remember that time we conspired to do all that illegal #### like fake test scores, paid off coaches, and got your kid into college they didn't deserve just because you paid me stupid sums of money and then wrote it off as a charitable contribution? (client answers "Yea"). Ok, cool. Do me a favor and don't talk about any of that at all....cool?"

lol

 
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The latest episode also discusses the completely legal "back door" for college admissions - the development department.  It features an anonymous interview with a former development person at University of North Carolina discussing donations to the school and how different monetary levels impact admissions decisions.
Just listened to the latest version of the podcast. Appalling. 

 
The price wasn't nearly that high for North Carolina.  $500,000 gets a completely mediocre student ("99% probably going to get in" unless your grades are "horrific").  $1,000,000 gets absolutely anyone in so long as you have a pulse and don't have multiple felonies on your record.
That's to do it illegally where the admins and coaches get paid off. To pay off a university it takes 10-20 times that. 

 
That's to do it illegally where the admins and coaches get paid off. To pay off a university it takes 10-20 times that. 
No.  This was an interview with a former development (fundraising) staffer at North Carolina speaking about direct contributions to the university.  (Of course, the development person could be lying I guess, but the interview is about direct donations, not bribery).

 
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No.  This was an interview with a former development (fundraising) staffer at North Carolina speaking about direct contributions to the university.  (Of course, the development person could be lying I guess, but the interview is about direct donations, not bribery).
Well, that's a bargain!

 
I'm loving the parts in the podcast where they are reading the wire transcripts and the main dude is calling his clients saying "Hey, I'm being audited by the IRS. Remember that time we conspired to do all that illegal #### like fake test scores, paid off coaches, and got your kid into college they didn't deserve just because you paid me stupid sums of money and then wrote it off as a charitable contribution? (client answers "Yea"). Ok, cool. Do me a favor and don't talk about any of that at all....cool?"

lol
The reactions were interesting. Tone ranging from polite agreement to “why the F are you saying this out loud?  Of course I won’t tell the IRS that. I’m not a frigging moron!”

 
The reactions were interesting. Tone ranging from polite agreement to “why the F are you saying this out loud?  Of course I won’t tell the IRS that. I’m not a frigging moron!”
One thing I wonder about is if the feds prosecuted only the people they captured on tape confirming their criminal activity. Like if people didn't pick up the phone when he called, or didn't say anything self-incriminating on the call, did they avoid being charged? I kind of feel like that's what happened, in which case the people who got indicted might be a small portion of the people who actually used this guy to help cheat their kid into college. 

 
One thing I wonder about is if the feds prosecuted only the people they captured on tape confirming their criminal activity. Like if people didn't pick up the phone when he called, or didn't say anything self-incriminating on the call, did they avoid being charged? I kind of feel like that's what happened, in which case the people who got indicted might be a small portion of the people who actually used this guy to help cheat their kid into college. 
Probably

 
The last episode of the podcast outline the basics of the defense we are likely to hear from some of the defendants.  The recorded phone calls where Singer outlines the scheme and they respond with "uh-huh" or "yeah" aren't valid admissions of criminal conduct as they did not actually state the conduct in which they were allegedly complicit.  With respect to the payments, they thought Singer was helping them, and they actually did think their contributions were going to charity or were legitimate donations to the universities.  I've got to think there are emails and other evidence that would make it exceedingly difficult to succeed on that defense, but I guess we'll see.

There was also a story about a mom who was indicted for enrolling her daughter in a school using her father's address after there was a break-in at the mom's home while the girl was home alone (and she was being bullied at her school).  After the girl was in the school for a year, they notified her that she had to remove her daughter as they had a PI tail her for two weeks and had evidence that she did not live in the district (mom says her daughter was the only black girl in her class).  She immediately removed her daughter from the school.  17 months later, she was served with an indictment, went to trial and was convicted.  She did 10 days in jail and was hit with a $70,000 fine.  By comparison, the Stanford sailing coach who was indicted for taking over $600k in bribes and falsely promoting three applicants, got one day of jail time (and was credited with time served) and a $10,000 fine.  Granted, he supposedly used all the money for the sailing team which is why he may have been treated more leniently.

 
She did 10 days in jail and was hit with a $70,000 fine.  
I can see the jail pop, but a 70k fine?  Yeesh.  I assume this was a high school issue and that the taxpayer would have been paying for this child to go to one high school or another.  That fine seems incredibly excessive.

 
This is kind of the peak of the mountain known as "Mt. Everyone Gets a Trophy."  Kids today have no idea how to handle rejection or failure.  And they are continually told they can be anything they want or achieve anything they put their minds to.  

The world is filled with 20 year old kids who think they deserve to have whatever they want, don't understand why they can't succeed in life, and have no idea how to deal with the failure when it all comes crashing down.  I honestly believe it's one of the reasons the suicide rate in young people is rising.  
I know the whole millennial thing always gets traction but this isn’t really a kid issue. This is parents who can’t deal with rejection. God forbid that have to post on facebook that their kid is going to SDSU while their friend’s kid is going to USC. These kids weren’t born thinking this behavior is acceptable. I see it all the time with parents building up their kid as if they are a rock star in everything they do.

I’m proud of my boys but they sure don’t think their #### doesn’t stink and my oldest is an amazingly independent kid who worked very hard to get into a great college/honors program. I want my kids to be able to function without a safety net. My soon to be 9th grader has friends whose parents still set up “play dates” and watch HS football practices. My son is embarrassed that I even have to drive him.

My oldest didn’t get into UNC and he got into two honors programs that should have been harder to get into so it’s not shocking to see UNC mentioned in here. I still don’t understand how he got waitlisted there as an in state kid (easier to get in due to state law), but I sure didn’t have $500k laying around.

 
This is kind of the peak of the mountain known as "Mt. Everyone Gets a Trophy."  Kids today have no idea how to handle rejection or failure.  And they are continually told they can be anything they want or achieve anything they put their minds to.  

The world is filled with 20 year old kids who think they deserve to have whatever they want, don't understand why they can't succeed in life, and have no idea how to deal with the failure when it all comes crashing down.  I honestly believe it's one of the reasons the suicide rate in young people is rising.  
I think it's more Mt. mykidisbetterthanyours.  located in parentcompetitionstan.

 
I know the whole millennial thing always gets traction but this isn’t really a kid issue. This is parents who can’t deal with rejection. God forbid that have to post on facebook that their kid is going to SDSU while their friend’s kid is going to USC. These kids weren’t born thinking this behavior is acceptable. I see it all the time with parents building up their kid as if they are a rock star in everything they do.

I’m proud of my boys but they sure don’t think their #### doesn’t stink and my oldest is an amazingly independent kid who worked very hard to get into a great college/honors program. I want my kids to be able to function without a safety net. My soon to be 9th grader has friends whose parents still set up “play dates” and watch HS football practices. My son is embarrassed that I even have to drive him.

My oldest didn’t get into UNC and he got into two honors programs that should have been harder to get into so it’s not shocking to see UNC mentioned in here. I still don’t understand how he got waitlisted there as an in state kid (easier to get in due to state law), but I sure didn’t have $500k laying around.
I wasn't blaming the kids.  It's the parents who came up with "Everyone gets a trophy", not the kids.  

 
I can see the jail pop, but a 70k fine?  Yeesh.  I assume this was a high school issue and that the taxpayer would have been paying for this child to go to one high school or another.  That fine seems incredibly excessive.
Yeah she was indicted for grand larceny (stealing from the school district).

 
I wasn't blaming the kids.  It's the parents who came up with "Everyone gets a trophy", not the kids.  
Yep. It’s 100% parent driven. There’s always going to be ######## kids but helicopter/constant praise parents are setting up their kids for a hard fall.

 
I hope Lori and her husband get jail time. They are trying to squirm out of it rather than owning up to it like others.

 
This is kind of the peak of the mountain known as "Mt. Everyone Gets a Trophy."  Kids today have no idea how to handle rejection or failure.  And they are continually told they can be anything they want or achieve anything they put their minds to.  

The world is filled with 20 year old kids who think they deserve to have whatever they want, don't understand why they can't succeed in life, and have no idea how to deal with the failure when it all comes crashing down.  I honestly believe it's one of the reasons the suicide rate in young people is rising.  
I'm almost at the point where I'm ready to start pushing back on this narrative about today's college-age kids. My 21-year-old is one of the kindest, hardest-working people I know, and is much more mature and ready to succeed than I was at his age. I was a stereotypical Gen X slacker - kind of believed that I couldn't be anything or achieve anything and so didn't really try.

If the kids I know can't handle rejection or failure, it's because they're pressured into feeling very high expectations and they're afraid any setback or failure is a much huger problem than it really is. 

Of course, the kids I know also aren't super-privileged and having their parents bribe their way into college.  

 
The_Man said:
I'm almost at the point where I'm ready to start pushing back on this narrative about today's college-age kids. My 21-year-old is one of the kindest, hardest-working people I know, and is much more mature and ready to succeed than I was at his age. I was a stereotypical Gen X slacker - kind of believed that I couldn't be anything or achieve anything and so didn't really try.

If the kids I know can't handle rejection or failure, it's because they're pressured into feeling very high expectations and they're afraid any setback or failure is a much huger problem than it really is. 

Of course, the kids I know also aren't super-privileged and having their parents bribe their way into college.  
Your kid is not a millennial, but rather is Gen Z.  You obviously can’t generalize characteristics of an entire generation, but my anecdotal perspective (combined with some writings on the topic) is that today’s high schoolers and college kids are far more practical, pragmatic, hard working and entrepreneurial than the millennials I’ve interacted with (primarily in a work setting).

 
The_Man said:
I'm almost at the point where I'm ready to start pushing back on this narrative about today's college-age kids. My 21-year-old is one of the kindest, hardest-working people I know, and is much more mature and ready to succeed than I was at his age. I was a stereotypical Gen X slacker - kind of believed that I couldn't be anything or achieve anything and so didn't really try.
I have hired college students for going on 20 years now and, to be frank, I just don't see a huge difference between today's kids and yesterday's.  I see a ton of bright, hard working kids looking to get started in the world.  The only thing that pisses me off about them is that they are getting progressively younger compared to me.

 
I have hired college students for going on 20 years now and, to be frank, I just don't see a huge difference between today's kids and yesterday's.  I see a ton of bright, hard working kids looking to get started in the world.  The only thing that pisses me off about them is that they are getting progressively younger compared to me.
http://gph.is/1nalKqU

 
It still blows my mind to think of Frank Gallagher's wife doing this. Just so much wasted on getting rugrats into college that could've been spent taking lines off a strippers breast.  

 
The correct solution here is that no-names and POCs should not get prison time for non-violent crimes.  Not the other way around.
This wasn't some petty crime. She effed up other students lives who should have had a place at USC. The punishment should have been more in at least fines. 

 
Wow. Basically a slap on the wrist. If it was a no fame name person of color... smh
Don’t know about that. It was $15K for cheating. First time offender. That being said Lori is doing the math and not liking it. She could get sentenced to 2+ years as I don’t think the defense argument will fly

 
This wasn't some petty crime. She effed up other students lives who should have had a place at USC. The punishment should have been more in at least fines. 
No, fines are exactly right for this sort of thing.  

The correct solution for white privilege is to treat everybody like we treat white people.  The wrong solution is to treat everyone like we treat black males.

 
This wasn't some petty crime. She effed up other students lives who should have had a place at USC. The punishment should have been more in at least fines. 
Huffman also will have to pay a $30,000 fine, complete 250 hours of community service and serve one year of probation.

 
Anyone remember the black lady who received Five Years for Sending Her Son to a Better School.  

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanya-mcdowell-sentencing/
Did you not read the link you posted?

After McDowell’s arrest was nationally reported, outrage ensued, and a petition was established online calling for the charges against her to be dropped. But larceny wasn’t the only charge McDowell faced. In 2011, she was arrested again, this time on suspicion of attempting to sell drugs to and offering an undercover police officer a prostitute.

McDowell was sentenced to five years in prison and five years probation after being convicted of first-degree larceny in the school case as part of a plea deal struck with prosecutors. Had she not taken the deal, McDowell could have faced decades in prison. At the time of her sentencing her attorney, David Crosland, expressed happiness with the resolution of the case.

The McDowell case was raised again in 2019 in comparisons to the celebrity college-admissions scandal, as an example of perceived unequal sentencing meted out according to class and race, although most failed to take into account that McDowell’s sentencing was the result of a plea bargain in which she was given a lighter sentence than she could have faced had she proceeded to trial.

 
Did you not read the link you posted?

After McDowell’s arrest was nationally reported, outrage ensued, and a petition was established online calling for the charges against her to be dropped. But larceny wasn’t the only charge McDowell faced. In 2011, she was arrested again, this time on suspicion of attempting to sell drugs to and offering an undercover police officer a prostitute.

McDowell was sentenced to five years in prison and five years probation after being convicted of first-degree larceny in the school case as part of a plea deal struck with prosecutors. Had she not taken the deal, McDowell could have faced decades in prison. At the time of her sentencing her attorney, David Crosland, expressed happiness with the resolution of the case.

The McDowell case was raised again in 2019 in comparisons to the celebrity college-admissions scandal, as an example of perceived unequal sentencing meted out according to class and race, although most failed to take into account that McDowell’s sentencing was the result of a plea bargain in which she was given a lighter sentence than she could have faced had she proceeded to trial.
Ok do the same work on the lady that was sent a voter card in error and used it.  She got like 20m

 
This wasn't some petty crime. She effed up other students lives who should have had a place at USC. The punishment should have been more in at least fines. 
I think you’re confusing Felicity Huffman with Lori Loughlin.  Huffman paid $15,000 to have someone take the SAT for her daughter. As far as I’m aware, her daughter didn’t apply to USC. Loughlin was the one who gave a $500,000 bribe to coaches at USC to get her daughters admitted.

 
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It'll do her some good.  Besides, she'll probably be in the protected crowd.  In prison, dinner for those people is always a big thing. They'll have a pasta course and then meat or fish. Felicity can do the prep work. I read she has this wonderful system for doing the garlic. She uses a razor, and she will slice it so thin that it will liquefy in the pan with just a little oil. It's a very good system.

 
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I think you’re confusing Felicity Huffman with Lori Loughlin.  Huffman paid $15,000 to have someone take the ACT for her daughter. As far as I’m aware, her daughter didn’t apply to USC. Loughlin was the one who gave a $500,000 bribe to coaches at USC to get her daughters admitted.
Hey, can’t let facts get in the way of a good emotional rant.

 
No, fines are exactly right for this sort of thing.  

The correct solution for white privilege is to treat everybody like we treat white people.  The wrong solution is to treat everyone like we treat black males.
Indeed.  I often wonder if people would be more open to the concept if we called it “black penalty” or “Hispanic penalty.”

 

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