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WR Louis Murphy traded to the Panthers

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By Louis Bien - Contributor

Louis Murphy has been traded from the Oakland Raiders to the Carolina Panthers, according to reports.

Jul 23, 2012 - The Oakland Raiders have traded 6'2 wide receiver Louis Murphy to the Carolina Panthers, Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports. There is no word yet on what the Panthers have given up in the trade. Murphy had fallen down the Raiders' depth chart after catching just 15 passes for 241 yards last season.

Murphy is entering his fourth year in the league. He has thrived as a deep threat for the Raiders as recently as two seasons ago, when he caught 41 passes for 609 yards and two touchdowns. Oakland isn't short on explosive passing targets, however, with Denarius Moore, Jacoby Ford and Darrius Heyward-Bey.

Outside of a veteran Steve Smith, the Panthers don't have much in the way of quality passing targets. Murphy could be very productive with a second-year Cam Newton throwing him the ball.

 

[Shutout]

Anything but JSTEW!

Actually, Please sweet little 6lb, 8oz baby Jesus, let it be DWIL!

 

[Sweet Love]

I will never say Carolina has not "tried" to upgrade the WR2 spot opposite of Steve Smith...they have had mixed results (at best), but I actually like this trade a lot, depending on what they gave up. Murphy has done well when thrown to, and he has never really played with a QB like Cam. All Carolina needs is 700-800 yards from the opposite spot to help out Smith...oddly, that has been very hard to come by for Carolina. It does make me wonder what their thoughts are on LaFell...he played well last year and my guess is that they realize they have been riding Smith almost to an irresponsible level, and know they need to not just get younger, but have someone ready who has actually caught multiple passes in the league. In two years, Murphy and LaFell put them in a much better situation than what they had yesterday.

 

[LawFitz]

And suddenly Murph becomes a nice sleeper. When healthy, I think he's better than LaFell and Gettis. Nice new target for Cam. Huge roster upgrade over Legadu Naanee. I wonder what they gave up. My guess is a 4th or 5th round pick.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Panthers acquired WR Louis Murphy from the Raiders.

The Raiders' compensation is likely a late-round pick. The trade comes three weeks after the Contra Costa Times reported Murphy was in a "fight" for his roster spot, and greatly increases undrafted rookie Rod Streater's chances of cracking Oakland's 53-man roster. The move could be interpreted as a lack of faith from Carolina in Brandon LaFell and David Gettis, but the reality is Murphy is little more than a depth acquisition for one of the league's thinner receiver corps. He'll have an inside track on a roster spot, but will have to stay healthy, something that has proven challenging for him his first three years in the league.

Related: Raiders

Doesn't make it sound like Lafell is losing value.

depends on who's opinion that is, did a coach say that? or a beat writer?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

DHB, Moore, Ford, Rookie...just was not going to be much room for him. I thought he looked good in some spot duty the first couple years. He was at best going to be their WR4/5/6 so they send him to another team where he has a chance to move up a little higher on the depth charts.

-odds that Murphy comes into Carlina and blow up forcing them to start him opposite Steve Smith? 10-15%

-odds that he is brought in to provide some quality depth as Gettis the #3 is coming off injury and LaFell is only in year 3 at the WR2 spot, this helps take some pressure off these guys not increase it? 70%

-odds that Oakland was getting one over on Carolina and Murphy is not that talented and will be hard pressed to find a roster spot? 10-15%

 

[solorca]

And suddenly Murph becomes a nice sleeper. When healthy, I think he's better than LaFell and Gettis. Nice new target for Cam. Huge roster upgrade over Legadu Naanee. I wonder what they gave up. My guess is a 4th or 5th round pick.

I don't think it will even be that high. I'm thinking a 6th rounder, tops. Maybe a conditional pick to escalate is possible as well.I don't think he's better than Lafell or Gettis at all, but I do think he's a competent receiver who will be a nice addition to the team. Smith, Lafell, Gettis, Adams, and Murphy are probably locks to make the roster, with a chance at a sixth guy if they impress in camp. Keoloha Pilares has probably the best chance of the guys I'm aware of (obviously there could be a camp guy that comes out of nowhere). Armanti Edwards is all but gone.

 

[Slider]

He looked really good when he was being thrown too. The Viagra thing killed him it seems. Strange dude.

 

[bagger]

this is a direct result of criners success imo.

 

[Sabertooth]

 

[Raiderfan32904]

 

[MAC_32]

Nothing to see here.

Oakland's new front office has made it clear they have lack of depth issues and need all the draft picks they can get after not having (m)any this year. Murph was not in the long term plans and would walk at season's end, he's also seen as the 5th or 6th best option entering this year. It makes more sense for them to let UDFA's battle for the 5th spot given those depth issues and see if one steps up.

In Carolina Murph is at least the 4th best option and serves as an adequate short term insurance policy for LaFell and Gettis, they also give up very little for him and can see who will step up to be the #2 or #3 for the future.

Makes sense for both sides.

 

[noneother]

this is a direct result of criners success imo.

I hope the same. Just wish this coulda happened in SEPTEMBER. Less press the better . After I get him in my other leagues

 

[Shutout]

Oakland shoulda got a LBer out of the deal.

Exactly who they gonna start at LBer when McClain goes to the pokey?

 

[socrates]

I am hoping this brings down LaFell's ADP some.

 

[Bojang0301]

Gettis went on the PUP today. It wasn't that long ago people had a high opinion of Murphy and thought he may end up better than Percy Harvin. He got lost in the shuffle in OAK and now has talent + opportunity. He's a decent deep sleeper.

 

[Raider Nation]

Murph was not in the long term plans and would walk at season's end, he's also seen as the 5th or 6th best option entering this year.

I don't think he was making it out of camp. Our WR depth is very encouraging.Getting even a 7th-round pick for a guy who would be cut anyway is good GM'ing.

 

[Chadstroma]

this is a direct result of criners success imo.

Yes and Streeter as well. Plus, it clears some salary cap room for the Raiders to make some more roster moves- perhaps adding a RB (lot's of talk about Benson) or a FA LB.

 

[Chadstroma]

Gettis went on the PUP today. It wasn't that long ago people had a high opinion of Murphy and thought he may end up better than Percy Harvin. He got lost in the shuffle in OAK and now has talent + opportunity. He's a decent deep sleeper.

Murphy has talent. I don't think the rest of the NFL has caught on to how good and deep the Raider WR corp is. It is understandable since that group of WR's was built while Russell was still flinging balls to the ground but think how things were starting to emerge up to the point Campbell got hurt last year. Now that Palmer is not coming cold off his couch and will have a normal off-season, I think we will see that more. To add on to Moore the continued improvement of DHB, and Ford- Criner has been catching everything humanly possible in camp and Streeter has emerged as well even being put in first team snaps. There has been talk of Murphy being on the bubble for a while when it was seen what Criner and Streeter were bringing to the table. It was a smart move from a Raider org that wanted some additional cap room and might have cut him anyways and a Panther org that is pretty thin at WR. I have to say that I much prefer the trade buddy relationship with Carolina than with NE.

 

[Sabertooth]

Murph was not in the long term plans and would walk at season's end, he's also seen as the 5th or 6th best option entering this year.

I don't think he was making it out of camp. Our WR depth is very encouraging.Getting even a 7th-round pick for a guy who would be cut anyway is good GM'ing.

Ted Thompson's pupil. Maybe he was paying attention during all those years. I really like where the Raiders are heading. I'm considering moving Sam Bradford for Carson Palmer in a dynasty league because of the upside here.

 

[todisco1]

I always liked Murphy. He has some talent, but hasn't been consistent and his health has obviously hurt his development. I do think he has a shot in Carolina, at least a much better shot than with OAK.

 

[Lord Fantasy]

 

[solorca]

Gettis went on the PUP today.

Just so no Gettis owners panic, the team has already said he'll be ready for the season opener...this is just a way of opening up a roster spot while Gettis gets back to 100%. I still expect Smith, Lafell, and Gettis to be the 1, 2, and 3...but Murphy should be in line as the fourth option, unless Joe Adams or Keoloha Pilares makes a push to be involved on the offense (I expect both to mainly be special teams guys this year).

 

[Demian]

Somebody queue up the Louis Murphy/DHB video.

 

[baconisgood]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Gettis went on the PUP today.

Just so no Gettis owners panic, the team has already said he'll be ready for the season opener...this is just a way of opening up a roster spot while Gettis gets back to 100%. I still expect Smith, Lafell, and Gettis to be the 1, 2, and 3...but Murphy should be in line as the fourth option, unless Joe Adams or Keoloha Pilares makes a push to be involved on the offense (I expect both to mainly be special teams guys this year).

pre-season PUP is meaningless.

 

[solorca]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability. *Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

 

[identikit]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability. *Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

I've always read that Panthers coaches like Lefell's run blocking a lot.True?

 

[baconisgood]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability. *Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

A player with Lafell's physical gifts/rawness should be making big leaps especially as a guy with tons of attention paid to other positions by opposing defenses and no competition for his spot. I think there is a good chance what you saw was simply the difference between a dynamic offense and a craptastic offense. Add in the fact that Lafell is old (turns 26 in Nov) to be trading on potential and improvements such as hands and blocking.

 

[krsone21]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability.

*Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

A player with Lafell's physical gifts/rawness should be making big leaps especially as a guy with tons of attention paid to other positions by opposing defenses and no competition for his spot. I think there is a good chance what you saw was simply the difference between a dynamic offense and a craptastic offense. Add in the fact that Lafell is old (turns 26 in Nov) to be trading on potential and improvements such as hands and blocking.

26 is not old for a WR. Most WR's start hitting their prime at 26.

 

[baconisgood]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability.

*Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

A player with Lafell's physical gifts/rawness should be making big leaps especially as a guy with tons of attention paid to other positions by opposing defenses and no competition for his spot. I think there is a good chance what you saw was simply the difference between a dynamic offense and a craptastic offense. Add in the fact that Lafell is old (turns 26 in Nov) to be trading on potential and improvements such as hands and blocking.

26 is not old for a WR. Most WR's start hitting their prime at 26.

Lafell is old (turns 26 in Nov) to be trading on potential and improvements such as hands and blocking.

 

[identikit]

News Articles > New Panthers WR Murphy tweaks hamstring

Published Tue Jul 24 1:43:00 p.m. ET 2012

(Rotoworld) Louis Murphy is questionable for the start of training camp after tweaking his hamstring while working out last week.

Analysis: While it's not a long-term concern, the injury is a reminder that Murphy has had a plethora of injuries since entering the league. Included are a hamstring "procedure" last August and a hamstring pull that kept him out of the first couple of weeks of OTAs in June.

 

[pantherclub]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability.

*Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

A player with Lafell's physical gifts/rawness should be making big leaps especially as a guy with tons of attention paid to other positions by opposing defenses and no competition for his spot. I think there is a good chance what you saw was simply the difference between a dynamic offense and a craptastic offense. Add in the fact that Lafell is old (turns 26 in Nov) to be trading on potential and improvements such as hands and blocking.

26 is not old for a WR. Most WR's start hitting their prime at 26.

I think he is saying relatively speaking he is an older player at 26 and this being his 3rd year in the league.

 

[solorca]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability. *Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

A player with Lafell's physical gifts/rawness should be making big leaps especially as a guy with tons of attention paid to other positions by opposing defenses and no competition for his spot. I think there is a good chance what you saw was simply the difference between a dynamic offense and a craptastic offense. Add in the fact that Lafell is old (turns 26 in Nov) to be trading on potential and improvements such as hands and blocking.

Players develop at different points, and at this point, Lafell is a much better receiver than he was two years ago. It's easy to say that he "should" be making big leaps, but his first year was with Jimmy Clausen and he was beaten out by David Gettis. Last year was essentially his rookie year, since it was an entirely new staff and QB. Throwing out a generic statement about where he "should" be based on his body type is just silly. The fact is, Lafell is improving consistently and I expect him to be much more involved this season. It was definitely not a result of seeing the difference in the offense. I've been watching this game long enough to see when a player is showing marked improvement...and Lafell is doing that.Also, I was responding to your point that Lafell "didn't show much improvement" last year. There is a big difference between saying that he isn't improving and saying that he "should be making leaps". For the record, I think Gettis is a better player. I also happen to believe that, if completely healthy, Gettis is a solid WR1 in the NFL. I think Gettis is better suited to be a good WR2...and I think he'll prove his ability at that level this year.

 

[pantherclub]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability. *Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

A player with Lafell's physical gifts/rawness should be making big leaps especially as a guy with tons of attention paid to other positions by opposing defenses and no competition for his spot. I think there is a good chance what you saw was simply the difference between a dynamic offense and a craptastic offense. Add in the fact that Lafell is old (turns 26 in Nov) to be trading on potential and improvements such as hands and blocking.

Players develop at different points, and at this point, Lafell is a much better receiver than he was two years ago. It's easy to say that he "should" be making big leaps, but his first year was with Jimmy Clausen and he was beaten out by David Gettis. Last year was essentially his rookie year, since it was an entirely new staff and QB. Throwing out a generic statement about where he "should" be based on his body type is just silly. The fact is, Lafell is improving consistently and I expect him to be much more involved this season. It was definitely not a result of seeing the difference in the offense. I've been watching this game long enough to see when a player is showing marked improvement...and Lafell is doing that.Also, I was responding to your point that Lafell "didn't show much improvement" last year. There is a big difference between saying that he isn't improving and saying that he "should be making leaps". For the record, I think Gettis is a better player. I also happen to believe that, if completely healthy, Gettis is a solid WR1 in the NFL. I think Gettis is better suited to be a good WR2...and I think he'll prove his ability at that level this year.

What round would you target Lafell in a 12 team league?

 

[solorca]

I don' think Lafell showed much improvement last year. His statistical improvement could easily be chalked up to more dynamic QB play and was worse than the improvement that Steve Smith showed between the seasons. I think this move is enough to drop Lafell off my draft board and keep CAR WR#2 open as a possibility for a WW pickup. Maybe its Gettis or Murphy, Maybe its Lafell in the end.

I can't imagine anyone saying that Lafell didn't show improvement last year if they watched the games. Not even looking at the stats, Lafell was a better blocker, had better hands, and showed more intensity on the field last year. Going into last season, he looked like a wasted pick...but something happened and he flipped a switch and looked like a completely different player in every aspect of his game.I think Gettis has a chance to take the #2 spot if he's healthy, but that's more about my belief that Gettis is a talented player with a ton of a ability, than an indictment of Lafell's ability. *Reference Point - I'm a Panthers PSL owner and have seen him live for every home game of Lafell's career.

A player with Lafell's physical gifts/rawness should be making big leaps especially as a guy with tons of attention paid to other positions by opposing defenses and no competition for his spot. I think there is a good chance what you saw was simply the difference between a dynamic offense and a craptastic offense. Add in the fact that Lafell is old (turns 26 in Nov) to be trading on potential and improvements such as hands and blocking.

Players develop at different points, and at this point, Lafell is a much better receiver than he was two years ago. It's easy to say that he "should" be making big leaps, but his first year was with Jimmy Clausen and he was beaten out by David Gettis. Last year was essentially his rookie year, since it was an entirely new staff and QB. Throwing out a generic statement about where he "should" be based on his body type is just silly. The fact is, Lafell is improving consistently and I expect him to be much more involved this season. It was definitely not a result of seeing the difference in the offense. I've been watching this game long enough to see when a player is showing marked improvement...and Lafell is doing that.Also, I was responding to your point that Lafell "didn't show much improvement" last year. There is a big difference between saying that he isn't improving and saying that he "should be making leaps". For the record, I think Gettis is a better player. I also happen to believe that, if completely healthy, Gettis is a solid WR1 in the NFL. I think Gettis is better suited to be a good WR2...and I think he'll prove his ability at that level this year.

What round would you target Lafell in a 12 team league?

I'm expecting him to be a bit more of an impact player for the Panthers than I would in a fantasy perspective. That said, I do think he'll have a solid year (850/55/7 is where I am projecting him). If I could get him in the 9th or 10th as my WR4, I would feel pretty good about it. Steve Smith and Greg Olsen are probably going to be the top two targets, along with Jonathan Stewart who was used pretty heavily in the passing game last year.I should add that I do my own rankings and try to avoid using others to sway me (other than for ADP data), so I'm not sure how this compares to where he is generally being ranked, since I haven't had my first re-draft yet.

 

[pantherclub]

850/55/7 would be a fantastic year for him

 

[Raiderfan32904]

850/55/7 would be a fantastic year for him

no doubt. PPR that would be AWESOME!

 

[massraider]

News Articles > New Panthers WR Murphy tweaks hamstringPublished Tue Jul 24 1:43:00 p.m. ET 2012(Rotoworld) Louis Murphy is questionable for the start of training camp after tweaking his hamstring while working out last week.Analysis: While it's not a long-term concern, the injury is a reminder that Murphy has had a plethora of injuries since entering the league. Included are a hamstring "procedure" last August and a hamstring pull that kept him out of the first couple of weeks of OTAs in June.

Well, this is just shocking.

 

[Raider Nation]

News Articles > New Panthers WR Murphy tweaks hamstring

Published Tue Jul 24 1:43:00 p.m. ET 2012

(Rotoworld) Louis Murphy is questionable for the start of training camp after tweaking his hamstring while working out last week.

Analysis: While it's not a long-term concern, the injury is a reminder that Murphy has had a plethora of injuries since entering the league. Included are a hamstring "procedure" last August and a hamstring pull that kept him out of the first couple of weeks of OTAs in June.

Well, this is just shocking.

Chaz Schilens thinks Murphy is soft.

 

[Frank Black]

As a homer, I'm very disappointed. Another injury ridden waste.

 

[solorca]

As a homer, I'm very disappointed. Another injury ridden waste.

You're disappointed that the Panthers gave up a conditional 7th rounder for the guy? Seems like a small investment to take a chance on someone.Or are you a Raiders homer?As a Panthers fan, I am interested to see what he offers, but I'm not counting on a ton from him other than some solid depth.

 

[simey]

As a Panthers fan, I am interested to see what he offers, but I'm not counting on a ton from him other than some solid depth.

I like him for depth too.