Mack Brown stepping down (1 Viewer)

[Phil Elliott]

The best thing about this whole thing is that Powers and Patterson have restored the balance of power so that the donors aren't making all the decisions at Texas. Dodds and brown used to talk to mccombs and jamail at least weekly just to let them know what was going on. Patterson and strong aren't going to do that. So now red is lashing out.

Art Acevedo (local police chief) called in right after to say he'd had lunch with Strong and was very happy and thought he would do well.

So did Strong kind of have to have lunch with that guy and other community people as an informal part of the job?

Always helps to know the police chief when you coach a College football team to make sure you get notified quickly when to come down and pick up one of your guys.

good point

That's not really been a problem for Texas

 

[Abraham]

The best thing about this whole thing is that Powers and Patterson have restored the balance of power so that the donors aren't making all the decisions at Texas. Dodds and brown used to talk to mccombs and jamail at least weekly just to let them know what was going on. Patterson and strong aren't going to do that. So now red is lashing out.

Art Acevedo (local police chief) called in right after to say he'd had lunch with Strong and was very happy and thought he would do well.

So did Strong kind of have to have lunch with that guy and other community people as an informal part of the job?

The Chief actually said something along the lines of it isn't surprising that they would meet so soon, but he was impressed by Strong asking a lot of questions about the community and where he (Acevedo) thought he (Strong) could get involved and quickly start making a difference. Then the morning host asked if the meeting was really an attempt to convoke the chief to not arrest any players that kick in doors looking for televisions (Cedric Benson). Was pretty funny.

 

[bentley]

I have never been a fan of Powers and we'll see how Patterson turns out. You can upset the apple cart and go against the grain for a while, but, eventually the big foundation contributors are going to have their say again. Patterson will eventually need to work with everyone or he will be a short term AD, which may be the objective. "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer".

I'm also on board with this. Patterson may well clean out the dead weight in the coaching staff and athletic department, get the new basketball arena built and make enough people mad that he's gone in four years. That would be a successful run in my eyes.

 

[culdeus]

Morning radio killing Mccombs this morning ...

Did you expect them to side with McCombs? Isn't this red meat to any Texas fan to hear their cows get roasted

 

[B-Deep]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

 

[RUSF18]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to tim's rankings.

Fixed.

 

[Phil Elliott]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

 

[B-Deep]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

 

[roadkill1292]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

For better or worse, their influence will skyrocket if O'Bannon wins his case.

 

[roadkill1292]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

Colleges can always say no and go back to being colleges again.

 

[B-Deep]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

Colleges can always say no and go back to being colleges again.

and all the nations of the world could just get along and decide never to fight again!

 

[roadkill1292]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

Colleges can always say no and go back to being colleges again.

and all the nations of the world could just get along and decide never to fight again!

I don't think it's pie in the sky thinking, and neither do a lot of other people, to expect a university to adhere to its primary mission. But if the factories genuinely need the revenue as part of accomplishing their missions, then dealing with the people who have a big hand in raising the revenue, and who aren't under their direct control, will be a normal part of college administration. They can't just make up illegal rules to ensure they don't have to deal with that kind of unpleasantness.

 

[B-Deep]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

Colleges can always say no and go back to being colleges again.

and all the nations of the world could just get along and decide never to fight again!

I don't think it's pie in the sky thinking, and neither do a lot of other people, to expect a university to adhere to its primary mission. But if the factories genuinely need the revenue as part of accomplishing their missions, then dealing with the people who have a big hand in raising the revenue, and who aren't under their direct control, will be a normal part of college administration. They can't just make up illegal rules to ensure they don't have to deal with that kind of unpleasantness.

$$$$$

no matter what you have heard this is the primary mission

the entities themselves may be "non profit" but the people who run them are most definitely not

 

[roadkill1292]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

Colleges can always say no and go back to being colleges again.

and all the nations of the world could just get along and decide never to fight again!

I don't think it's pie in the sky thinking, and neither do a lot of other people, to expect a university to adhere to its primary mission. But if the factories genuinely need the revenue as part of accomplishing their missions, then dealing with the people who have a big hand in raising the revenue, and who aren't under their direct control, will be a normal part of college administration. They can't just make up illegal rules to ensure they don't have to deal with that kind of unpleasantness.

$$$$$

no matter what you have heard this is the primary mission

the entities themselves may be "non profit" but the people who run them are most definitely not

Well then, perhaps the people paying the players (boosters) who play the games which generate the revenues ought to be running things. Maybe the administrators haven't been working hard enough to keep these guys happy. Maybe their primary mission should be recruiting rich boosters and then getting out of their way and let those guys work things out with the football program.

I think boosters are insane and that the relationships that evolve after/if O'Bannon wins are going to test the colleges like they've never been tested before. But this is the path the colleges themselves have meandered down and I find their behavior no less excusable than crazy boosters.

I don't understand that whole world where it means so ###### much for the football team to win.

 

[General Malaise]

Bobby Petrino already on his motorbike to Louisville...

Zero chance. The AD has a long memory.

Update?

 

[Abraham]

Bobby Petrino already on his motorbike to Louisville...

Zero chance. The AD has a long memory.

Update?

The AD has amnesia.

 

[General Malaise]

Bobby Petrino already on his motorbike to Louisville...

Zero chance. The AD has a long memory.

Update?

The AD has amnesia.

Maybe he just wants to win.

 

[Phil Elliott]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

Colleges can always say no and go back to being colleges again.

and all the nations of the world could just get along and decide never to fight again!

I don't think it's pie in the sky thinking, and neither do a lot of other people, to expect a university to adhere to its primary mission. But if the factories genuinely need the revenue as part of accomplishing their missions, then dealing with the people who have a big hand in raising the revenue, and who aren't under their direct control, will be a normal part of college administration. They can't just make up illegal rules to ensure they don't have to deal with that kind of unpleasantness.

$$$$$

no matter what you have heard this is the primary mission

the entities themselves may be "non profit" but the people who run them are most definitely not

Well then, perhaps the people paying the players (boosters) who play the games which generate the revenues ought to be running things. Maybe the administrators haven't been working hard enough to keep these guys happy. Maybe their primary mission should be recruiting rich boosters and then getting out of their way and let those guys work things out with the football program.

I think boosters are insane and that the relationships that evolve after/if O'Bannon wins are going to test the colleges like they've never been tested before. But this is the path the colleges themselves have meandered down and I find their behavior no less excusable than crazy boosters.

I don't understand that whole world where it means so ###### much for the football team to win.

It generates a lot of revenue.

 

[roadkill1292]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

Colleges can always say no and go back to being colleges again.

and all the nations of the world could just get along and decide never to fight again!

I don't think it's pie in the sky thinking, and neither do a lot of other people, to expect a university to adhere to its primary mission. But if the factories genuinely need the revenue as part of accomplishing their missions, then dealing with the people who have a big hand in raising the revenue, and who aren't under their direct control, will be a normal part of college administration. They can't just make up illegal rules to ensure they don't have to deal with that kind of unpleasantness.

$$$$$

no matter what you have heard this is the primary mission

the entities themselves may be "non profit" but the people who run them are most definitely not

Well then, perhaps the people paying the players (boosters) who play the games which generate the revenues ought to be running things. Maybe the administrators haven't been working hard enough to keep these guys happy. Maybe their primary mission should be recruiting rich boosters and then getting out of their way and let those guys work things out with the football program.

I think boosters are insane and that the relationships that evolve after/if O'Bannon wins are going to test the colleges like they've never been tested before. But this is the path the colleges themselves have meandered down and I find their behavior no less excusable than crazy boosters.

I don't understand that whole world where it means so ###### much for the football team to win.

It generates a lot of revenue.

I meant I don't understand why people are willing to pay high prices for a winning football team, whether it be through donations or ticket purchases.

 

[Phil Elliott]

if there is anything about college football worse than the NCAA, it would have to be boosters

Boosters have there good side. Not sure about the NCAA.

it is a tough call

the concept that boosters are buying the right to influence the football team is really galling to me though

Colleges can always say no and go back to being colleges again.

and all the nations of the world could just get along and decide never to fight again!

I don't think it's pie in the sky thinking, and neither do a lot of other people, to expect a university to adhere to its primary mission. But if the factories genuinely need the revenue as part of accomplishing their missions, then dealing with the people who have a big hand in raising the revenue, and who aren't under their direct control, will be a normal part of college administration. They can't just make up illegal rules to ensure they don't have to deal with that kind of unpleasantness.

$$$$$

no matter what you have heard this is the primary mission

the entities themselves may be "non profit" but the people who run them are most definitely not

Well then, perhaps the people paying the players (boosters) who play the games which generate the revenues ought to be running things. Maybe the administrators haven't been working hard enough to keep these guys happy. Maybe their primary mission should be recruiting rich boosters and then getting out of their way and let those guys work things out with the football program.

I think boosters are insane and that the relationships that evolve after/if O'Bannon wins are going to test the colleges like they've never been tested before. But this is the path the colleges themselves have meandered down and I find their behavior no less excusable than crazy boosters.

I don't understand that whole world where it means so ###### much for the football team to win.

It generates a lot of revenue.

I meant I don't understand why people are willing to pay high prices for a winning football team, whether it be through donations or ticket purchases.

People like the product. But with the constant rule changes pretty soon its going to be like watching electric football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjFXnJc0Q0U

 

[The Commish]

I meant I don't understand why people are willing to pay high prices for a winning football team, whether it be through donations or ticket purchases.

They live vicariously through "their" programs. They couldn't do it, so they pay to watch others who can.

 

[Premier]

I meant I don't understand why people are willing to pay high prices for a winning football team, whether it be through donations or ticket purchases.

They live vicariously through "their" programs. They couldn't do it, so they pay to watch others who can.

I buy tickets because I like to go to games.

 

[The Commish]

I meant I don't understand why people are willing to pay high prices for a winning football team, whether it be through donations or ticket purchases.

They live vicariously through "their" programs. They couldn't do it, so they pay to watch others who can.

I buy tickets because I like to go to games.

Truth be told...I was thinking about the boosters who spend millions on their teams so they can "win". Wasn't thinking of the average fan who goes to games. That didn't seem to be who he was asking about.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

All the talking heads blasting the Strong hire so that means it'll work out just fine.

The one interesting thing said today was from a reporter in Louisville for yahoo Sports who said Strong never gave him an interview in four years, despite many requests. That isn't gonna fly at Bighorn U.

 

[General Malaise]

All the talking heads blasting the Strong hire so that means it'll work out just fine.

The one interesting thing said today was from a reporter in Louisville for yahoo Sports who said Strong never gave him an interview in four years, despite many requests. That isn't gonna fly at Bighorn U.

Well, they can rest assured that Steve Peppy Patterson will be there to conduct all the sanguine and jovial pressers their big 'ol hearts can handle.

You may like Patterson now, Texas....you ain't gonna like him for long.

 

[Abraham]

All the talking heads blasting the Strong hire so that means it'll work out just fine.

The one interesting thing said today was from a reporter in Louisville for yahoo Sports who said Strong never gave him an interview in four years, despite many requests. That isn't gonna fly at Bighorn U.

Well, they can rest assured that Steve Peppy Patterson will be there to conduct all the sanguine and jovial pressers their big 'ol hearts can handle.

You may like Patterson now, Texas....you ain't gonna like him for long.

Honestly, the football hire could have gone a number of ways and turned out fine for now. Obviously, what happens on the field will be the biggest deal. How he handles Barnes and Augie, both of whom need to go (Barnes should have been canned years ago) will be more important to how long he sticks around. Yes, from August to December most everyone only cares about football. But the baseball and basketball teams used to be very very competitive and now are not.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

All the talking heads blasting the Strong hire so that means it'll work out just fine.

The one interesting thing said today was from a reporter in Louisville for yahoo Sports who said Strong never gave him an interview in four years, despite many requests. That isn't gonna fly at Bighorn U.

Well, they can rest assured that Steve Peppy Patterson will be there to conduct all the sanguine and jovial pressers their big 'ol hearts can handle.

You may like Patterson now, Texas....you ain't gonna like him for long.

Maybe that's why he wanted strong. Basically it'll be like an NFL team, AD handles the GM duties and the politics and Strong handles the on-field business and only has to do his normal pressers.

 

[Phil Elliott]

All the talking heads blasting the Strong hire so that means it'll work out just fine.

The one interesting thing said today was from a reporter in Louisville for yahoo Sports who said Strong never gave him an interview in four years, despite many requests. That isn't gonna fly at Bighorn U.

Well, they can rest assured that Steve Peppy Patterson will be there to conduct all the sanguine and jovial pressers their big 'ol hearts can handle.

You may like Patterson now, Texas....you ain't gonna like him for long.

I wasn't too impressed with Patterson at the presser announcing Strong. Strong looked rather nervous at the beginning but i think he was a good hire. Least impressed with Powers.

 

[Christo]

The best thing about this whole thing is that Powers and Patterson have restored the balance of power so that the donors aren't making all the decisions at Texas. Dodds and brown used to talk to mccombs and jamail at least weekly just to let them know what was going on. Patterson and strong aren't going to do that. So now red is lashing out.

Art Acevedo (local police chief) called in right after to say he'd had lunch with Strong and was very happy and thought he would do well.

So did Strong kind of have to have lunch with that guy and other community people as an informal part of the job?

If I was the HC of a CFB team I'd want as close a relationship as possible with the local police chief.

 

[Christo]

The best thing about this whole thing is that Powers and Patterson have restored the balance of power so that the donors aren't making all the decisions at Texas. Dodds and brown used to talk to mccombs and jamail at least weekly just to let them know what was going on. Patterson and strong aren't going to do that. So now red is lashing out.

Art Acevedo (local police chief) called in right after to say he'd had lunch with Strong and was very happy and thought he would do well.

So did Strong kind of have to have lunch with that guy and other community people as an informal part of the job?

I think its kinda expected. The head football coach at the University of Texas is by default one of the most important people in Austin. I think he's expected to be a part of the community.

That's a far cry from serving the big donors a warm glass of milk and tucking them in to bed every night like Mack Brown did.

I've never been a part of a big university culture in any way, but that was my perception. I just think it's interesting because sometimes people think that these college jobs are such great gigs and don't understand why people leave (see PSU/O'Brien, among others). If you are not into that, it's going to get tiresome quickly. I would think that I would just want to focus on football and not have all these lunches and other crap.

By the time these guys get their first HC opportunity they know what's coming. They may tire of it. But they know going in.