Tornacl
Footballguy
Curious as to the Shark Pool's opinion on Mahomes' value in a 6 point per passing TD dynasty league. It is obviously not as high as it is in a SuperFlex/ 2QB league, but it is still higher than the standard 4 point per passing league. QBs are normally undervalued, IMO, but what he did last year was truly amazing for a 1st year starter (or anyone for that matter). As a point of reference, in a 6 pt/PTD league, he outscored the 2nd highest score by 100 points and 6 ppg.
1) Where would you start to consider drafting him in a start-up?
2) Or in the case of an existing league, what would it take for you to give him up? Pretty hard to improve your team without a massive offer from someone, but what would that offer have to be? Let's assume you are in a complete re-build and need help across the board, only because if the rest of your team is good, why would you consider trading him?
As for me, I normally like to wait to draft a QB, however, with my first ever dynasty league start-up draft I did break my own rule to draft a young Peyton Manning. With Mahomes, I would strongly consider drafting him in this format in the middle of the 1st round. I know he's not going to outscore everyone every year, but we have to draft based off of potential. There's really no way to know, but I didn't see anything that made me feel like he isn't going to be a great QB for a LONG time. I could draft him, and not have to worry about the QB position for the next decade. The way I see it, the Chiefs were a contending team, yet they aggressively went after him. Then, while he was sitting on the bench, Alex Smith had himself a career year, yet they must've seen enough in practice to know Mahomes was special, so much so they traded Smith away, with no viable option to turn to if Mahomes would've struggled. That tells me Reid and company weren't surprised by Mahomes' success (at least not too much), which means it wasn't a fluke in their eyes.
The second scenario is tougher IMO. You're in an established league with holes all over your roster, but how do you improve your team by trading him? The hard part is finding a team that is willing to give up enough assets to make it possible to improve your team. I don't think I could do it for picks alone, because it would take so many picks that I doubt anyone would really be willing to trade that many picks. Draft picks are crap shoots anyway, with most owners only hitting on about 50% of the 1st round picks. I would have to get at least one proven young player, plus another lottery pick or two (either high-upside prospects or 1st round draft picks).
1) Where would you start to consider drafting him in a start-up?
2) Or in the case of an existing league, what would it take for you to give him up? Pretty hard to improve your team without a massive offer from someone, but what would that offer have to be? Let's assume you are in a complete re-build and need help across the board, only because if the rest of your team is good, why would you consider trading him?
As for me, I normally like to wait to draft a QB, however, with my first ever dynasty league start-up draft I did break my own rule to draft a young Peyton Manning. With Mahomes, I would strongly consider drafting him in this format in the middle of the 1st round. I know he's not going to outscore everyone every year, but we have to draft based off of potential. There's really no way to know, but I didn't see anything that made me feel like he isn't going to be a great QB for a LONG time. I could draft him, and not have to worry about the QB position for the next decade. The way I see it, the Chiefs were a contending team, yet they aggressively went after him. Then, while he was sitting on the bench, Alex Smith had himself a career year, yet they must've seen enough in practice to know Mahomes was special, so much so they traded Smith away, with no viable option to turn to if Mahomes would've struggled. That tells me Reid and company weren't surprised by Mahomes' success (at least not too much), which means it wasn't a fluke in their eyes.
The second scenario is tougher IMO. You're in an established league with holes all over your roster, but how do you improve your team by trading him? The hard part is finding a team that is willing to give up enough assets to make it possible to improve your team. I don't think I could do it for picks alone, because it would take so many picks that I doubt anyone would really be willing to trade that many picks. Draft picks are crap shoots anyway, with most owners only hitting on about 50% of the 1st round picks. I would have to get at least one proven young player, plus another lottery pick or two (either high-upside prospects or 1st round draft picks).
