Malcolm Kelly (1 Viewer)

[T Bell]

Posted at 12:58 PM ET, 08/ 4/2008

Malcolm Kelly Might Get Scoped

Rookie WR Malcolm Kelly is in Birmingham being evaluated by Dr. James Andrews and may need to have arthroscopic knee surgery, Coach Jim Zorn said. Kelly had a hamstring injury and, in recovering from that, began to feel some stiffness in his knees.

Zorn said Kelly was being evaluated while the coach was speaking to the media, and an update is forthcoming. Either way, it does not appear that Kelly will be practicing soon, and could miss Saturday's game regardless.

Devin Thomas, the other second-round WR, will not be ready to practice fully this week, Zorn said, still bothered by a hamstring injury he suffered in the first week of camp. Should both of them miss another few weeks then the odds of them being involved much in the Week 1 offense start to dwindle.

Zorn has spoke candidly about how difficult it can be for young WRs to learn this offense, and all of its nuances.

We'll post an update when we get it.

I've got a webchat to do on Washingtonpost.com right now, but will get some other stuff from Zorn's presser on the blog later.

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[EBF]

 

[sholditch]

He just got dropped in my dynasty league, presumably because of this news. How serious is this injury? The rotoworld blurb mentioned him being crossed off several teams list because of his knees...does this go back to college? Any Sooners around?

 

[valhallan]

Next year, I'll let you guys know who my dynasty rookies picks are so you can know of these injuries beforehand (Irons, now Kelly).

 

[Anthony Borbely]

It's never a good sign when Dr. Andrews is involved.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

 

[moderated]

Knees were shot before the draft, it was shocking to see Washington jump on him in the 2nd round.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Between this and the news on Jordy Nelson, your top rookie WR's are not looking so good. I hope you didnt jinx Royal.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

:X

Between this and the news on Jordy Nelson, your top rookie WR's are not looking so good. I hope you didnt jinx Royal.

 

[EBF]

Between this and the news on Jordy Nelson, your top rookie WR's are not looking so good. I hope you didnt jinx Royal.

We all knew Kelly was an injury risk. That's the main reason why he fell so late in the NFL draft. Unfortunately, the knee issue has apparently proven to be legitimate. As for Nelson, I'd say week two of his rookie training camp is a little early to close the book on his career. Try back in four years.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

damn, just took him at 2.07 in a rookie draft.

thoughts on what this means long term? doubt that many owners expected immediate high production from kelly.

 

[Burning Sensation]

:X

Between this and the news on Jordy Nelson, your top rookie WR's are not looking so good. I hope you didnt jinx Royal.

:whoosh:

It wasnt horrible news or anything, but in a time where fluff pieces are all over the place, this probably isnt a good sign.

Packers rookie Jordy Nelson may be no better than the No. 5 receiver right now.

Nelson has impressed with his consistency, fundamentals, and grasp of the offense, but he's been having trouble beating the jam at the line of scrimmage. Nelson is expected to leapfrog Ruvell Martin by Week 1, but it's no sure thing. James Jones looks to have the third receiver spot locked up for the foreseeable future.

 

[Burning Sensation]

:whoosh:

Between this and the news on Jordy Nelson, your top rookie WR's are not looking so good. I hope you didnt jinx Royal.

We all knew Kelly was an injury risk. That's the main reason why he fell so late in the NFL draft. Unfortunately, the knee issue has apparently proven to be legitimate. As for Nelson, I'd say week two of his rookie training camp is a little early to close the book on his career. Try back in four years.

I didnt say he was a bust, just that it seems every rookie is getting glowing reviews. Seems you really have to be doing poorly to get a negative report.

 

[EBF]

I didnt say he was a bust, just that it seems every rookie is getting glowing reviews. Seems you really have to be doing poorly to get a negative report.

The fact that he's struggling against the jam in week two of his rookie training isn't going to affect my opinion of his prospects. Even Chicken Little wouldn't be concerned by that news.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Glad to see this turn into a Jordy Nelson thread.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I didnt say he was a bust, just that it seems every rookie is getting glowing reviews. Seems you really have to be doing poorly to get a negative report.

The fact that he's struggling against the jam in week two of his rookie training isn't going to affect my opinion of his prospects. Even Chicken Little wouldn't be concerned by that news.

Hmm, wonder if you would have pointed out a news story reporting "Mcfadden having hard time breaking tackles in camp".

 

[EBF]

I didnt say he was a bust, just that it seems every rookie is getting glowing reviews. Seems you really have to be doing poorly to get a negative report.

The fact that he's struggling against the jam in week two of his rookie training isn't going to affect my opinion of his prospects. Even Chicken Little wouldn't be concerned by that news.

Hmm, wonder if you would have pointed out a news story reporting "Mcfadden having hard time breaking tackles in camp".

1. WR has a steeper learning curve than RB. Saying a rookie WR is struggling is like saying the sky is blue. 2. No.

 

[sholditch]

I didnt say he was a bust, just that it seems every rookie is getting glowing reviews. Seems you really have to be doing poorly to get a negative report.

The fact that he's struggling against the jam in week two of his rookie training isn't going to affect my opinion of his prospects. Even Chicken Little wouldn't be concerned by that news.

Hmm, wonder if you would have pointed out a news story reporting "Mcfadden having hard time breaking tackles in camp".

[QUOTE='google]No results found for "Mcfadden having hard time breaking tackles in camp".
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[Anthony Borbely]

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Kelly Undergoes Knee Surgery

Rookie wide receiver Malcolm Kelly underwent arthroscopic knee surgery Monday to remove loose particles in his left knee. Kelly, who team sources expect to miss about two weeks, had the surgery at the Andrews Institute in Pensacola, Fla.

Kelly, who was taken by the Redskins with the 51st pick in the second round of the April draft, had been dealing with a hamstring injury and, in recovering from that, began to feel some stiffness in his knees, according to Jim Zorn.

He is the sixth player to have surgery since training camp opened July 20. Starting defensive end Phillip Daniels and end Alex Buzbee had season-ending injuries on the first day and have had surgery. Linebackers H.B. Blades and Rian Wallace and starting defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery also have had surgery.

Kelly tore an anterior cruciate ligament in junior high and had arthroscopic knee surgery during his sophomore year at the University of Oklahoma.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I didnt say he was a bust, just that it seems every rookie is getting glowing reviews. Seems you really have to be doing poorly to get a negative report.

The fact that he's struggling against the jam in week two of his rookie training isn't going to affect my opinion of his prospects. Even Chicken Little wouldn't be concerned by that news.

Hmm, wonder if you would have pointed out a news story reporting "Mcfadden having hard time breaking tackles in camp".

[QUOTE='google]No results found for "Mcfadden having hard time breaking tackles in camp".

[/QUOTE]You wont find any results for that. Try "Mcfadden is awesome" or "Mcfadden rules", you may have more luck.ETA, sorry, i am done hijacking now.

 

[T Bell]

He just got dropped in my dynasty league, presumably because of this news. How serious is this injury? The rotoworld blurb mentioned him being crossed off several teams list because of his knees...does this go back to college? Any Sooners around?

I just sat down in front of the computer after a couple of hours away, so I'm not aware of any new developments . . . yet. However, the team is saying that this is precautionary and that surgery may not even be necessary. Aside from the mild hamstring problem, the knees had been reported on as being sore, but in spite of that Kelly had stood out and looked good in camp. Dropping him seems premature at this point unless you're dealing with imminent roster cut downs and you're loaded at WR. I have him in one dynasty league and will probably stash him on IR for a year just to see what develops if he starts the year on PUP or isn't practicing.EDIT- Oops, I read a little farther and he did undergo the surgery. The worst part of this isn't so much the recovery time, it's that he's a rookie who's losing this optimal time to develop chemistry with Campbell and the offense. He's losing reps that will be hard to get back once the season starts. We'll have to simply wait and see.

 

[moderated]

He just got dropped in my dynasty league, presumably because of this news. How serious is this injury? The rotoworld blurb mentioned him being crossed off several teams list because of his knees...does this go back to college? Any Sooners around?

I just sat down in front of the computer after a couple of hours away, so I'm not aware of any new developments . . . yet. However, the team is saying that this is precautionary and that surgery may not even be necessary. Aside from the mild hamstring problem, the knees had been reported on as being sore, but in spite of that Kelly had stood out and looked good in camp. Dropping him seems premature at this point unless you're dealing with imminent roster cut downs and you're loaded at WR.

I have him in one dynasty league and will probably stash him on IR for a year just to see what develops if he starts the year on PUP or isn't practicing.

EDIT- Oops, I read a little farther and he did undergo the surgery. The worst part of this isn't so much the recovery time, it's that he's a rookie who's losing this optimal time to develop chemistry with Campbell and the offense. He's losing reps that will be hard to get back once the season starts. We'll have to simply wait and see.

I can't find the article now, but pre-draft there was a lot of talk that his knee problems could be the degenerative kind, which means the longer you wait the worse it will get for him.The Washington FO was the only one crazy enough to draft him that early. If they don't take him there he slids into day 2 of the draft.

 

[T Bell]

He just got dropped in my dynasty league, presumably because of this news. How serious is this injury? The rotoworld blurb mentioned him being crossed off several teams list because of his knees...does this go back to college? Any Sooners around?

I just sat down in front of the computer after a couple of hours away, so I'm not aware of any new developments . . . yet. However, the team is saying that this is precautionary and that surgery may not even be necessary. Aside from the mild hamstring problem, the knees had been reported on as being sore, but in spite of that Kelly had stood out and looked good in camp. Dropping him seems premature at this point unless you're dealing with imminent roster cut downs and you're loaded at WR.

I have him in one dynasty league and will probably stash him on IR for a year just to see what develops if he starts the year on PUP or isn't practicing.

EDIT- Oops, I read a little farther and he did undergo the surgery. The worst part of this isn't so much the recovery time, it's that he's a rookie who's losing this optimal time to develop chemistry with Campbell and the offense. He's losing reps that will be hard to get back once the season starts. We'll have to simply wait and see.

I can't find the article now, but pre-draft there was a lot of talk that his knee problems could be the degenerative kind, which means the longer you wait the worse it will get for him.The Washington FO was the only one crazy enough to draft him that early. If they don't take him there he slids into day 2 of the draft.

Here's the thing - he was the 8th WR taken, and it was around the 51st selection of the draft. He sounds like he's the real deal in terms of talent, a starting caliber WR. I don't see that sort of pick as being "crazy".

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Hate to say I tol......., nevermind.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Officially bump up Moss slightly and Randle El as these two rookie wide receivers may not even contribute this year and if they do it won't be for awhile. I was looking forward to drafting D. Thomas late as I thought he would be the guy who would start off doing pretty good but these guys all get dinged up so easy.

 

[moderated]

He just got dropped in my dynasty league, presumably because of this news. How serious is this injury? The rotoworld blurb mentioned him being crossed off several teams list because of his knees...does this go back to college? Any Sooners around?

I just sat down in front of the computer after a couple of hours away, so I'm not aware of any new developments . . . yet. However, the team is saying that this is precautionary and that surgery may not even be necessary. Aside from the mild hamstring problem, the knees had been reported on as being sore, but in spite of that Kelly had stood out and looked good in camp. Dropping him seems premature at this point unless you're dealing with imminent roster cut downs and you're loaded at WR.

I have him in one dynasty league and will probably stash him on IR for a year just to see what develops if he starts the year on PUP or isn't practicing.

EDIT- Oops, I read a little farther and he did undergo the surgery. The worst part of this isn't so much the recovery time, it's that he's a rookie who's losing this optimal time to develop chemistry with Campbell and the offense. He's losing reps that will be hard to get back once the season starts. We'll have to simply wait and see.

I can't find the article now, but pre-draft there was a lot of talk that his knee problems could be the degenerative kind, which means the longer you wait the worse it will get for him.The Washington FO was the only one crazy enough to draft him that early. If they don't take him there he slids into day 2 of the draft.

Here's the thing - he was the 8th WR taken, and it was around the 51st selection of the draft. He sounds like he's the real deal in terms of talent, a starting caliber WR. I don't see that sort of pick as being "crazy".

When your knees are shot who cares how talented you once WERE, past tense. With degenerative knees his problems will be getting worse every year, and pre-draft there were many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board. Some of that was his bad attitude as well, but couple shot knees and bad attitude and yes, i think it was crazy to waste a 2nd round pick on him.In defense of Wash they usually trade all their picks away so they probably have a really bad scouting department since they never have to do any scouting most years.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

He just got dropped in my dynasty league, presumably because of this news. How serious is this injury? The rotoworld blurb mentioned him being crossed off several teams list because of his knees...does this go back to college? Any Sooners around?

I just sat down in front of the computer after a couple of hours away, so I'm not aware of any new developments . . . yet. However, the team is saying that this is precautionary and that surgery may not even be necessary. Aside from the mild hamstring problem, the knees had been reported on as being sore, but in spite of that Kelly had stood out and looked good in camp. Dropping him seems premature at this point unless you're dealing with imminent roster cut downs and you're loaded at WR.

I have him in one dynasty league and will probably stash him on IR for a year just to see what develops if he starts the year on PUP or isn't practicing.

EDIT- Oops, I read a little farther and he did undergo the surgery. The worst part of this isn't so much the recovery time, it's that he's a rookie who's losing this optimal time to develop chemistry with Campbell and the offense. He's losing reps that will be hard to get back once the season starts. We'll have to simply wait and see.

I can't find the article now, but pre-draft there was a lot of talk that his knee problems could be the degenerative kind, which means the longer you wait the worse it will get for him.The Washington FO was the only one crazy enough to draft him that early. If they don't take him there he slids into day 2 of the draft.

Here's the thing - he was the 8th WR taken, and it was around the 51st selection of the draft. He sounds like he's the real deal in terms of talent, a starting caliber WR. I don't see that sort of pick as being "crazy".

When your knees are shot who cares how talented you once WERE, past tense. With degenerative knees his problems will be getting worse every year, and pre-draft there were many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board. Some of that was his bad attitude as well, but couple shot knees and bad attitude and yes, i think it was crazy to waste a 2nd round pick on him.In defense of Wash they usually trade all their picks away so they probably have a really bad scouting department since they never have to do any scouting most years.

Yep, scoped knee, out 2 weeks - he's done for good.

 

[southeastjerome]

He just got dropped in my dynasty league, presumably because of this news. How serious is this injury? The rotoworld blurb mentioned him being crossed off several teams list because of his knees...does this go back to college? Any Sooners around?

I just sat down in front of the computer after a couple of hours away, so I'm not aware of any new developments . . . yet. However, the team is saying that this is precautionary and that surgery may not even be necessary. Aside from the mild hamstring problem, the knees had been reported on as being sore, but in spite of that Kelly had stood out and looked good in camp. Dropping him seems premature at this point unless you're dealing with imminent roster cut downs and you're loaded at WR.

I have him in one dynasty league and will probably stash him on IR for a year just to see what develops if he starts the year on PUP or isn't practicing.

EDIT- Oops, I read a little farther and he did undergo the surgery. The worst part of this isn't so much the recovery time, it's that he's a rookie who's losing this optimal time to develop chemistry with Campbell and the offense. He's losing reps that will be hard to get back once the season starts. We'll have to simply wait and see.

If they don't take him there he slids into day 2 of the draft.

Link?

 

[fatness]

Some of that was his bad attitude as well, but couple shot knees and bad attitude and yes, i think it was crazy to waste a 2nd round pick on him.

Let's see. On one hand I have the reports of Redskin players and coaches saying how well he's doing in terms of learning, performance, and attitude, and the recent fundraising he did for a charity. On the other hand I have your word he has a "bad attitude". Which one do you think I'm going to believe?

 

[fatness]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

 

[Donnybrook]

Posted at 12:58 PM ET, 08/ 4/2008Malcolm Kelly Might Get ScopedRookie WR Malcolm Kelly is in Birmingham being evaluated by Dr. James Andrews and may need to have arthroscopic knee surgery, Coach Jim Zorn said. Kelly had a hamstring injury and, in recovering from that, began to feel some stiffness in his knees.

I don't know but this doesn't sound too serious to me. People in here are acting like his career is over. It not like Boldin and Holt aren't getting their knees scoped every year.

 

[moderated]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

 

[T Bell]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

That was all attributable to his knee, no doubt.

 

[fatness]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

 

[joffer]

He just got dropped in my dynasty league, presumably because of this news. How serious is this injury? The rotoworld blurb mentioned him being crossed off several teams list because of his knees...does this go back to college? Any Sooners around?

I just sat down in front of the computer after a couple of hours away, so I'm not aware of any new developments . . . yet. However, the team is saying that this is precautionary and that surgery may not even be necessary. Aside from the mild hamstring problem, the knees had been reported on as being sore, but in spite of that Kelly had stood out and looked good in camp. Dropping him seems premature at this point unless you're dealing with imminent roster cut downs and you're loaded at WR.

I have him in one dynasty league and will probably stash him on IR for a year just to see what develops if he starts the year on PUP or isn't practicing.

EDIT- Oops, I read a little farther and he did undergo the surgery. The worst part of this isn't so much the recovery time, it's that he's a rookie who's losing this optimal time to develop chemistry with Campbell and the offense. He's losing reps that will be hard to get back once the season starts. We'll have to simply wait and see.

I can't find the article now, but pre-draft there was a lot of talk that his knee problems could be the degenerative kind, which means the longer you wait the worse it will get for him.The Washington FO was the only one crazy enough to draft him that early. If they don't take him there he slids into day 2 of the draft.

Here's the thing - he was the 8th WR taken, and it was around the 51st selection of the draft. He sounds like he's the real deal in terms of talent, a starting caliber WR. I don't see that sort of pick as being "crazy".

When your knees are shot who cares how talented you once WERE, past tense. With degenerative knees his problems will be getting worse every year, and pre-draft there were many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board. Some of that was his bad attitude as well, but couple shot knees and bad attitude and yes, i think it was crazy to waste a 2nd round pick on him.In defense of Wash they usually trade all their picks away so they probably have a really bad scouting department since they never have to do any scouting most years.

i scrolled down the page right to this post, but the poster wasn't visible on the screen. i read it, and knew immediately who it was

 

[Christo]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

To be fair, I did see it posted here. I don't believe it. But somebody did actually type those words in that order in relation to Kelly somewhere at some time this spring.

 

[fatness]

Posted at 12:58 PM ET, 08/ 4/2008

Malcolm Kelly Might Get Scoped

Rookie WR Malcolm Kelly is in Birmingham being evaluated by Dr. James Andrews and may need to have arthroscopic knee surgery, Coach Jim Zorn said. Kelly had a hamstring injury and, in recovering from that, began to feel some stiffness in his knees.

I don't know but this doesn't sound too serious to me. People in here are acting like his career is over. It not like Boldin and Holt aren't getting their knees scoped every year.

It doesn't sound serious, you're right.Here's tomorrow's article on Kelly in the Washington Post (they get posted around midnight).

Washington Redskins rookie wide receiver Malcolm Kelly underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left knee yesterday and is expected to be out about two weeks.

"It has been kind of stiff," Coach Jim Zorn said of Kelly's knee while meeting with reporters yesterday at Redskins Park. "We do things as soon as we can if there is a problem, and that's why" the Redskins had Andrews evaluate Kelly.

Drafted out of Oklahoma, Kelly, one of the team's three second-round picks, was among the Redskins' most impressive rookies early in camp, coaches and players said. He made a good impression with his receiving and blocking skills while playing the X receiver, or split end position. Kelly had several acrobatic catches on deep balls from quarterback Jason Campbell and was physical on running plays in 11-on-11 drills.

 

[valhallan]

i scrolled down the page right to this post, but the poster wasn't visible on the screen. i read it, and knew immediately who it was

Reminds me a bit of Imprisoned Saints Fan.Edit to Add: here's a gem from that guy: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...p;#entry2111505

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

To be fair, I did see it posted here. I don't believe it. But somebody did actually type those words in that order in relation to Kelly somewhere at some time this spring.

Source: (24 March 2008) Mike Mayock reports that Malcolm Kelly's knees "are of such concern" that he may be removed from some teams' draft boards in April.

Link

 

[Christo]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

To be fair, I did see it posted here. I don't believe it. But somebody did actually type those words in that order in relation to Kelly somewhere at some time this spring.

Source: (24 March 2008) Mike Mayock reports that Malcolm Kelly's knees "are of such concern" that he may be removed from some teams' draft boards in April.

Link

The operative words being "some" and "may."

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

To be fair, I did see it posted here. I don't believe it. But somebody did actually type those words in that order in relation to Kelly somewhere at some time this spring.

Source: (24 March 2008) Mike Mayock reports that Malcolm Kelly's knees "are of such concern" that he may be removed from some teams' draft boards in April.

Link

The operative words being "some" and "may."

Maybe, but it did come from a credible source. Sounds pretty solid to me.

 

[valhallan]

Kelly was the top WR for a while.. he fell for a reason. And I wish that weren't true.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I don't think there is any question that some teams removed Kelly from their draft boards. Anyone with a degenerative/chronic knee condition is very risky.

While his knee surgery yesterday was relatively minor, it's not minor for a player who has Kelly's knee problems.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

Has it actually been confirmed that he even has a degenerative knee condition? The only thing I could ever find was a flurry of news articles following Mayock's speculative quote. It's hard to believe the Redskins would have made him a high pick while knowing him to have a degenerative medical condition.

 

[southeastjerome]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

To be fair, I did see it posted here. I don't believe it. But somebody did actually type those words in that order in relation to Kelly somewhere at some time this spring.

Source: (24 March 2008) Mike Mayock reports that Malcolm Kelly's knees "are of such concern" that he may be removed from some teams' draft boards in April.

Link

The operative words being "some" and "may."

Maybe, but it did come from a credible source. Sounds pretty solid to me.

You know who Mayock's sources were?Not saying they weren't an issue, but to make it sound that "many" teams took him off their board completely is unfounded. To also say that if the Skins didn't take him in the 2nd round that he would have slid to day 2 is also unfounded.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

To be fair, I did see it posted here. I don't believe it. But somebody did actually type those words in that order in relation to Kelly somewhere at some time this spring.

Source: (24 March 2008) Mike Mayock reports that Malcolm Kelly's knees "are of such concern" that he may be removed from some teams' draft boards in April.

Link

The operative words being "some" and "may."

Maybe, but it did come from a credible source. Sounds pretty solid to me.

You know who Mayock's sources were?Not saying they weren't an issue, but to make it sound that "many" teams took him off their board completely is unfounded. To also say that if the Skins didn't take him in the 2nd round that he would have slid to day 2 is also unfounded.

Another poster said that, not me, just to be clear.

 

[sholditch]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

Redskins rookie Malcolm Kelly is currently in Birmingham, Alabama to have his knees evaluated.He may need a scope. Kelly has been missing time with a hamstring injury, but is also experiencing stiffness in his knees. NFL Network's Mike Mayock reported before the draft that Kelly had been removed from some teams' boards due to knee woes, so this is a concern. He remains out indefinitely.

Source: Washington Post

 

[Christo]

many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board.

Link?

Anyone who paid attention to pre-draft stuff knows this. He went off on one of the oklahoma brass when he bombed his workout and blamed everything on everyone but himself.

I remember that. He was projected to be drafted in the first round, and that dropped him to being projected in the second round. That's a far cry from what you stated: "many teams rumored to completely remove him from their draft board" That sounds more like fiction.

Redskins rookie Malcolm Kelly is currently in Birmingham, Alabama to have his knees evaluated.He may need a scope. Kelly has been missing time with a hamstring injury, but is also experiencing stiffness in his knees. NFL Network's Mike Mayock reported before the draft that Kelly had been removed from some teams' boards due to knee woes, so this is a concern. He remains out indefinitely.

Source: Washington Post

See? This is how bad information gets around. The quote posted by Hoss didn't go this far. It said Mayock reported that some teams may remove him from their board.

 

[zadok]

Has it actually been confirmed that he even has a degenerative knee condition? The only thing I could ever find was a flurry of news articles following Mayock's speculative quote. It's hard to believe the Redskins would have made him a high pick while knowing him to have a degenerative medical condition.

They hedged their bet by picking Thomas also.

 

[T Bell]

I don't think there is any question that some teams removed Kelly from their draft boards. Anyone with a degenerative/chronic knee condition is very risky.

While his knee surgery yesterday was relatively minor, it's not minor for a player who has Kelly's knee problems.

AB, there was only a single, unsourced report from Mayock on this. I can find no substantiation to it. I should add that even Mayock said that this would only knock Kelly into the 2nd round, precisely where the 'Skins drafted him.As for the knee though, the Washington Post in its article on the surgery mentions nothing about a degenerative condition. Moreover, in a pre-draft article about Kelly, again nothing is mentioned about his allegedly degenerative knees, even as they also mention Rocky McIntosh has degenerative knees. Anyone who knows anything about the hostile relationship between the Post and the 'Skins under Snyder will tell you that the Post reporters would love nothing more than to jump on the team for drafting a guy with bad knees, but they're not doing that.

Kelly has impressed people in camp and has made plays. They simply noticed that he was moving stiffly, asked to examine his knee, and that led to this surgery. IMHO Kelly is if anything a buy-low candidate from owners who may be panicky about this unsubstantiated "degenerative knee condition" story. Give up next year's 4th round rookie pick and grab him if you can.