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Managers, are you "required" to attend company events (1 Viewer)

Are company events required, "required" or optional

  • required

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • "required"

    Votes: 23 53.5%
  • optional

    Votes: 16 37.2%

  • Total voters
    43

mr. furley

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you're a middle manager, whether it be newly minted or long-time sufferer

are company/corporate events:

1) absolutely required? a fireable offense if you do not show

2) "required"? in that it would be a good idea for you to show up if you know what's good for you but "officially" you aren't required to attend

3) totally optional? there's no pressure. your boss(es) respect your boundaries, family requirements, time and space

 
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3.

and honestly, unless they're paying me to go to said event, said company can go #### themselves.  

 
you're a middle manager, whether it be newly minted or long-time sufferer

are company/corporate events:

1) absolutely required? a fireable offense if you do not show

2) "required"? in that it would be a good idea for you to show up if you know what's good for you but "officially" you aren't required to attend

3) totally optional? there's no pressure. your boss(es) respect your boundaries, family requirements, time and space
It's been awhile since I was a middle manager, but if one would like to advance should attend.

 
so here is the deal the only two things i am the manager of are you know what and shineola and there aint no one payin me to do it so long story short you had better ask someone else but i wish you luck in your journey to the truth take that to the bank bromigo 

 
thayman said:
It's been awhile since I was a middle manager, but if one would like to advance should attend.
That was my thinking. 

While I was a middle manager it was not officially required but you pretty much had to be there, it was expected without being told. 

Now that I'm back to being a worker bee, I only go if I want. But honestly, I usually want to attend, I actually like the people I work with and the collection of local offices. But then I also enjoy running with the big boss once in a while, because he's genuinely a good, likeable guy who has my respect.

 
Events were required by all management, but the highest managers never went so it's recognized as the farce it is and nobody took any of it seriously. 

 
not officially required but you pretty much had to be there, it was expected without being told. 
this is how i have been led to understand the unspoken requirement

doesn't matter where the corporate event is or what conflict you may have... you should be there if you value your employment.

kids birthday this weekend but there's a tailgate event at a football game 2 1/2 hours away? you better effing be there, wearing your drinking shoes and ready to glad hand. how you pay for it and/or get home after is up to you but your employment hinges on it.

seems fair

 
I say not mandatory.  If you're a great manager no one cares if you attend social events.  That said, attend the ones you can and that seem fun to you. 

 
this is how i have been led to understand the unspoken requirement

doesn't matter where the corporate event is or what conflict you may have... you should be there if you value your employment.

kids birthday this weekend but there's a tailgate event at a football game 2 1/2 hours away? you better effing be there, wearing your drinking shoes and ready to glad hand. how you pay for it and/or get home after is up to you but your employment hinges on it.

seems fair
Is the manager you report to going?

 
this is how i have been led to understand the unspoken requirement

doesn't matter where the corporate event is or what conflict you may have... you should be there if you value your employment.

kids birthday this weekend but there's a tailgate event at a football game 2 1/2 hours away? you better effing be there, wearing your drinking shoes and ready to glad hand. how you pay for it and/or get home after is up to you but your employment hinges on it.

seems fair
Sounds like a great place to work. Certainly makes me appreciate my employer.

 
In our company it is unspoken that for any corporate events (which are not very common other than a holiday party and a summer "family" event at a local amusement park) everyone is expected to be there.  Would you get fired for not being there? No, but it would not go unnoticed and would find it's way into your yearly review under the "teamwork and collaboration" area.

Show up, shake a few hands of a few people, put on a modest show of appreciation then slip away when the opportunity presents itself.  

For the most part I work with some awesome people so these occasions are not terrible, but the yearly departmental Christmas party with the white elephant exchange is BRUTAL.  Usually I try to take on-call responsibilities that week so I have a ready made excuse to not show up or bail early. The summer family party and the company wide Christmas party are actually enjoyable with good food and entertainment so it is actually decent to attend.  The random after work meet and greets are completely optional - if you are bucking for a promotion it is advisable to attend but for the most part it is just a bunch of higher level managers trying to appear to be in touch with the working masses.

 
What type of events?
Yeah, some clarification here would help.  I assume these events are in no way work related?  If so, ours are always do whatever you want - there’s no expectation of folks being there.  I think the one exception to that would be a team building event but I would still call that work related.  

 
What type of events?
they have Packers tailgates every home game. tailgate at the minor league baseball games. sometimes they are at the minor league hockey games. corporate holiday parties. entertaining clients at various events.

these are not 3-4 times per year. we're talking 15-20 easy.

this is not my job. i am not the manager.

 
Is the manager you report to going?
not me, but, yes the manager's boss will be there.

background, local company but national presence. explosive growth in the last 15 years. the management structure and culture has not caught up. 

to wit, the #3 in charge. runs day to day for a national company. worked at a Burger King before this. as a shift manager. for a few months. when she was 20. it's widely believed that she got her job because she fits the prototype of the #2's perfect woman. almost everyone that guy hires is a clone. tall, blonde, young, "cheery". she's clearly in over her head (as is my understanding from talking to a number of people there) and making things a lot worse for everyone but won't ever get fired.

the president/owner comes to work in ratty cutoff sweatpants, flip flops and socks and a wrinkled polo having not showered or shaved for days. he's eccentric as hell and radically changes his mind at the drop of a hat.. putting jobs in and out of danger on a whim. fires a whole department/team one Wednesday afternoon... then a couple weeks later hires all new people for the same job and fires them 3 months after, etc.

the #2 likes to party and drink. he's the organizer of these events and the one putting the pressure on to attend regardless of cost or time commitment. married but he has no kids. they both work well paying jobs so money is no object. years ago he asked me for advice on a bachelor party in South Beach (since that's where i went for mine). the scale at which he wanted to party at and the events he was organizing was so far out of my reach that i could only tell him "the airport sucks".

he paid for all his entire wedding party for a week in Miami. golfing, charter fishing, expensive hotel, dinner & drinks every night. 

that's the expectation he lives with. 

everyone that works there is being asked to keep up despite making.......... not remotely the same money.

 
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they have Packers tailgates every home game. tailgate at the minor league baseball games. sometimes they are at the minor league hockey games. corporate holiday parties. entertaining clients at various events.

these are not 3-4 times per year. we're talking 15-20 easy.

this is not my job. i am not the manager.
No way one should be expected to attend all of them.  But it sounds like a great excuse to go tailgating every home game.  "Sorry honey, it's required!"

 
No way one should be expected to attend all of them.  But it sounds like a great excuse to go tailgating every home game.  "Sorry honey, it's required!"
50% of the time it works every time

some of these have conflicted with priorities in the past so we haven't gone. apparently, that's unacceptable no matter the "excuse".

sorry, mom, can't come to your wedding... wife's boss will fire her if we don't go shake hands with execs from some company in Tennessee today at this golf outing... that we don't get to actually golf at.

 
Sounds like it's time to find a new job.15-20 events a year that aren't job related is ridiculous. And the company not covering 100% of the expenses involved? Heck no.

 
i hate those types of event as much as anyone, but its just something that's wise to attend.   it may never come back to bite you, but why take that chance.

ETA:  Just saw the above post about the # of these events.  Eff that.  Even move on or be prepared to if this comes back to bite you. 

 
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mr. furley said:
you're a middle manager, whether it be newly minted or long-time sufferer

are company/corporate events:

1) absolutely required? a fireable offense if you do not show

2) "required"? in that it would be a good idea for you to show up if you know what's good for you but "officially" you aren't required to attend

3) totally optional? there's no pressure. your boss(es) respect your boundaries, family requirements, time and space
Between 2 and 3.  They request that you go, but if I have family requirements they aren't going to bring up that I didn't go.

 
The only difference between being an employee and a slave is the employee gets to choose who holds the whip over them. 

Furley, go to the event or your boss is going to go Indiana Jones on your ###!

 
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The only difference between being an employee and a slave is the employee gets to choose who holds the whip over them. 

Furley, go to the event or your boss is going to go Indiana Jones on your ###!
not me :lmao:

my biggest worry right now at the office is the department christmas party coming up in a few weeks. haven't sorted out what dish to pass we should bring. 

 

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