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R. Budd Dwyer?Just watched that clip, and man that was that painful. I can't recall the last time I saw somebody get completely dismembered on live television that way.
R. Budd Dwyer?Just watched that clip, and man that was that painful. I can't recall the last time I saw somebody get completely dismembered on live television that way.
Hey man, nice post!R. Budd Dwyer?Just watched that clip, and man that was that painful. I can't recall the last time I saw somebody get completely dismembered on live television that way.
It's his only play, but it won't work.
I'm going to keep saying it, because it's true.It's his only play, but it won't work.
Rubio Defends Repeating the Same Line 4 Times at the GOP Debate
Florida. Sen. Marco Rubio defended his repetitive critique of President Barack Obama during Saturday night’s presidential debate, saying he’d continue to argue that he believes Obama was calculating in his attempt to change the country.
Speaking to more than 500 supporters at Londonderry High School Sunday, Rubio made only a passing reference to the debate in which his performance was widely panned.
“You know, it’s interesting, right now, after last night’s debate, people were like, ‘Oh you said the same thing three or four times,’” Rubio said. “Well, I’m going to say it again: the reason why these things are in trouble is because Barack Obama is the first president, at least in my lifetime, that wants to change the country.”
During Saturday’s debate, Rubio repeatedly argued that Obama was not an incompetent leader, seeking to undo eight years of GOP talking points, and that it was his ideology not inexperience that was wrong. “Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing,” Rubio said. “He knows exactly what he’s doing.” But Rubio offered a near-verbatim version on the line four times during the debate, drawing criticism from New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie who called it the “memorized, 25-second speech,” and argued that Rubio did not have the experience needed to serve as president.
In an interview with ABC’s This Week, Rubio argued again that he’d keep making the argument against Obama. “It’s what I believe and it’s what I’m going to continue to say, because it happens to be one of the main reasons why I am running,” he said.
This is what's so weird about it.It wasn't just the repetitive nature of the comment, it was also a complete non sequitur.
I think he was trying to say that he knows what he's doing by talking about Obama because a lot of people are critical of his experience and comparing the two. That's my theory at least. Kind of a stretch if that's what he was doing.Exactly. I wasn't that he repeated the same line over and over. Its that he repeated it to questions that required a non practiced answer. He was like a robot that was unable to say anything it wasn't programed to.
Probably should wait until Tuesday night. If he's under 15% I'd say he's finished.Probably at the point we can lock this thread and close up shop. Rubio is d-u-n.
No need to wait. It's ***Official***.Probably should wait until Tuesday night. If he's under 15% I'd say he's finished.Probably at the point we can lock this thread and close up shop. Rubio is d-u-n.
No, he could come back from this (he did from the water bottle fiasco). However in the next debate after NH he better make sure he doesn't repeat anything twice, because the media has set the robotic meme and will be looking for anything to reinforce it.No need to wait. It's ***Official***.Probably should wait until Tuesday night. If he's under 15% I'd say he's finished.Probably at the point we can lock this thread and close up shop. Rubio is d-u-n.
well said.No, he could come back from this (he did from the water bottle fiasco). However in the next debate after NH he better make sure he doesn't repeat anything twice, because the media has set the robotic meme and will be looking for anything to reinforce it.No need to wait. It's ***Official***.Probably should wait until Tuesday night. If he's under 15% I'd say he's finished.Probably at the point we can lock this thread and close up shop. Rubio is d-u-n.
Watch him double down and try to turn "Obama knows exactly what he's doing" into his catchphrase.No, he could come back from this (he did from the water bottle fiasco). However in the next debate after NH he better make sure he doesn't repeat anything twice, because the media has set the robotic meme and will be looking for anything to reinforce it.No need to wait. It's ***Official***.Probably should wait until Tuesday night. If he's under 15% I'd say he's finished.Probably at the point we can lock this thread and close up shop. Rubio is d-u-n.
Marco Roboto. That might stick.
The water bottle gaffe was just that, a nervous gaffe. This, however, strikes at the core of the narrative surrounding Rubio--that he's robotic, needs a script he can rehearse, can't think on his feet. In other words (to borrow his words, in fact), he is disqualified from being President of the United States.No, he could come back from this (he did from the water bottle fiasco). However in the next debate after NH he better make sure he doesn't repeat anything twice, because the media has set the robotic meme and will be looking for anything to reinforce it.No need to wait. It's ***Official***.Probably should wait until Tuesday night. If he's under 15% I'd say he's finished.Probably at the point we can lock this thread and close up shop. Rubio is d-u-n.
"Barack Obama knows exactly what he's doing, and he wants to change the country."It wasn't just the repetitive nature of the comment, it was also a complete non sequitur.
"I sort of campaigned on 'change'""Barack Obama knows exactly what he's doing, and he wants to change the country."It wasn't just the repetitive nature of the comment, it was also a complete non sequitur.
Somewhere, Barack Obama was watching that debate and was like "Yeah, and . . . ?
I think I posted my reasearch findings, maybe earlierin this thread, that Rubio is a delegator, even/especially the thinking part.The water bottle gaffe was just that, a nervous gaffe. This, however, strikes at the core of the narrative surrounding Rubio--that he's robotic, needs a script he can rehearse, can't think on his feet. In other words (to borrow his words, in fact), he is disqualified from being President of the United States.No, he could come back from this (he did from the water bottle fiasco). However in the next debate after NH he better make sure he doesn't repeat anything twice, because the media has set the robotic meme and will be looking for anything to reinforce it.No need to wait. It's ***Official***.Probably should wait until Tuesday night. If he's under 15% I'd say he's finished.Probably at the point we can lock this thread and close up shop. Rubio is d-u-n.
Don't most presidential candidates want to change the country for the better? Isn't that the whole point of it? ("Make America Great Again", "Hope And Change", etc.)"Barack Obama knows exactly what he's doing, and he wants to change the country."It wasn't just the repetitive nature of the comment, it was also a complete non sequitur.
Somewhere, Barack Obama was watching that debate and was like "Yeah, and . . . ?
Rubio laughed at first (I guess it hit home) and that really pissed off Christie."I sort of campaigned on 'change'""Barack Obama knows exactly what he's doing, and he wants to change the country."It wasn't just the repetitive nature of the comment, it was also a complete non sequitur.
Somewhere, Barack Obama was watching that debate and was like "Yeah, and . . . ?
I think the best part of it was Christie so casually leaning on his podium going "There it is" without any hostility just effortlessly exposing him.
Rubio's new campaign slogan "I Don't Know What I'm Doing And Won't Change Anything".Don't most presidential candidates want to change the country for the better? Isn't that the whole point of it? ("Make America Great Again", "Hope And Change", etc.)"Barack Obama knows exactly what he's doing, and he wants to change the country."It wasn't just the repetitive nature of the comment, it was also a complete non sequitur.
Somewhere, Barack Obama was watching that debate and was like "Yeah, and . . . ?
I guess Rubio doesn't get this concept, as his official campaign slogan is "A New American Century". Welcome to 16 years ago!!
You're right. A lot of robots are smarter than Rubio.Stop being so mean to me guys...
They should run it with a chess clock, letting the candidates decide which answers need more or less time. When their total time runs out, they're done.This is why the debate format needs to allow for longer answers . 90 seconds allows you to be shallow and not all that informative.
The debates are long enough IMO, don't want to spend 3 hours watching these things. Giving them more time is probably not going to be much more informative, in Rubio's case he would just give a longer canned answer.Rove! said:Rubio got exposed, but this is annoying tactic is used by many politicians...avoiding a direct question and going into a memorized speech. They probably practice the timing so they can talk right up to the buzzer.
This is why the debate format needs to allow for longer answers . 90 seconds allows you to be shallow and not all that informative.
I've seen it on facebook but can't find it anywhere else. It's just as bad as the other examples except for right at the end you can tell Rubio realizes his mistake and pauses, then finishes his sentence to absolute silence.Ooof...we need video of this!This was from today's event
All the candidates sound repetitive if you follow them on the road everyday. It will be hard for Rubio to avoid this, especially when it looks like a bad habit he has developed as Senator.More repeated talking points
"92 other senators who have ideas"
"you have to wait ten years"
"They don't qualify for any federal benefits, including Obamacare"
"we have de facto amnesty"
"Universal e-verify"
"violence problem"
As all the old ladies whisper how badly they feel for that nice young boy.I've seen it on facebook but can't find it anywhere else. It's just as bad as the other examples except for right at the end you can tell Rubio realizes his mistake and pauses, then finishes his sentence to absolute silence.Ooof...we need video of this!This was from today's event
I completely agree - not really fair to follow them around and compare when they do multiple events or shows. Multiple times in one event however - like the debate or NH town hall - is kind of fair game imo.More
bolzano said:
You see, real people talk exactly like this.bolzano said:
He was great in Alpha House.Can't wait to see this guy steal scenes in Anchorman 3.
I completely agree with this. Part of the knock on Obama's ability to shape policy is to signal to the GOP that he would be capable to do the same even without a lot of experienceI think he was trying to say that he knows what he's doing by talking about Obama because a lot of people are critical of his experience and comparing the two. That's my theory at least. Kind of a stretch if that's what he was doing.Exactly. I wasn't that he repeated the same line over and over. Its that he repeated it to questions that required a non practiced answer. He was like a robot that was unable to say anything it wasn't programed to.