Marcus Thomas arrested for possesion (1 Viewer)

[Blue-Kun]

Marcus Thomas-DL- Broncos Mar. 2 - 11:08 pm et

Broncos DT Marcus Thomas was arrested early Saturday on a drug possession charge.

The drug was cocaine. Thomas was a top-15 talent last year, but fell all the way to the fourth round because of his checkered off-field history. We doubt he'll face a suspension, but it's a bad sign he's still making poor decisions. A lie detector test from Mike Shanahan may be forthcoming.

Source: Florida Times Union

A guy with character issues in the draft getting busted for drugs? No way.

 

[lord_helmet]

I wonder why they doubt he'll face suspension, did they forget to check his blood as well as his pockets or something ? Are the illegal substances not illegal in the off-season ?

 

[BusMan]

Didn't the Broncos put clauses in his contract prohibiting this kind of behavior? Something about incentives or what not? Shanahan doesn't have much on the DL right now, but if this charge holds water, I think Thomas has to be cut.

 

[JaxBill]

I wonder why they doubt he'll face suspension, did they forget to check his blood as well as his pockets or something ? Are the illegal substances not illegal in the off-season ?

There's apparently some question over whose drugs they were (found in the center console).

Broncos' Thomas in drug arrestBy Bill WilliamsonThe Denver Post Article Last Updated: 03/03/2008 03:48:43 AM MSTBroncos defensive tackle Marcus Thomas was arrested on suspicion of possession of a controlled substance early Saturday morning in northeast Florida and spent the night in jail. Thomas, the Broncos' fourth-round draft choice in 2007, was kicked off the University of Florida's national championship team in 2006 because he tested positive for marijuana multiple times. This time, police in Clay County, Fla., found cocaine in a car in which Thomas was a passenger after a traffic stop. Neither Thomas nor the driver admitted it was his, and both men were arrested. Thomas was released Sunday morning. The Broncos were looking into the incident and had no comment. Thomas' agent and high school coach, Richard Burnoski, said Thomas was innocent. "I don't think charges will be formally filed," Burnoski said Sunday night. "But the damage has been done. In the court of public opinion, this looks horrible. Marcus knows it. He has been very upset. . . . He's embarrassed. He never wanted to let the Broncos down." Burnoski said police found a trace amount of cocaine in the middle console of a car in which Thomas was the passenger. Burnoski said Thomas, who grew up in Jacksonville, was coming back to Denver and was having a going-away party. "Marcus was drinking, but he did the right thing by getting a ride," Burnoski said. "He had no idea there was drugs in the car." Burnoski said Thomas took a drug test after his release and that it came back negative. Burnoski said the NFL and the Broncos will be sent the results of the test. While a football player at Florida, Thomas sought treatment for drug use and passed almost 20 weekly tests leading up to the draft. He was considered a top-10 prospect but fell to the fourth round. The Broncos traded this year's third-round pick to Minnesota to select Thomas at No. 121 overall. He became a starter and was expected to be a major part of the Broncos' defense in 2008. Thomas said several times last year that he had learned his lesson and didn't want to jeopardize his chances of NFL success. "Honest to God, Marcus didn't know the cocaine was there," Burnoski said. "But because of the past, people will have a hard time believing him. But I do believe he will not be charged with this."

 

[coolnerd]

I wonder why they doubt he'll face suspension, did they forget to check his blood as well as his pockets or something ? Are the illegal substances not illegal in the off-season ?

I don't remember how often, but I almost certain that players are tested in the off-season.

 

[munchkin]

"Honest to God, Marcus didn't know the cocaine was there," Burnoski said. "But because of the past, people will have a hard time believing him. But I do believe he will not be charged with this."

It wasn't his car so he probably has a good chance of getting off on this unless the other guy can convince the cops that it was indeed Thomas's coke. But come on, the agent can't be surprised that few people believe in his innocence.

Kevin Faulk was tested immediately following his arrest to show at least that he did not have drugs in his system. It would seem that the same would be done here.

 

[DoubleG]

I for one am going to wait until we have more input from experts in this field ...

...like Bengal fans, for example.

 

[redman]

Shanny once again squanders a draft pick on a guy who slid in the draft due to character issues.

 

[Knight who says Ni]

Well if the report is correct, he tested negative and the car he was in was not his own - it sounds like his problem is that he still hangs around the wrong people more than anything else

Ni

 

[kremenull]

Thanks Broncos......You are now officially the poster-boy franchise for drafting, and signing, the most questionable charcter guys in the league. Just about every team would not have touched this guy with a 100-ft pole coming out of college, yet you traded UP to get him. Just like you did for Clarett.

Typical Shanahan....and that's why your team has no team chemistry nor karma.......If not for the Chiefs, the Broncos would be the worst team in the AFC West......Yep, that's right, the Raiders will be looking at you in their rear view......

 

[Andy Dufresne]

So sad. The Broncos are my AFC team of choice, but they're no fun to follow anymore - primarily because of Shanahan's terrible management.

 

[KoolKat]

Didn't the Broncos put clauses in his contract prohibiting this kind of behavior? Something about incentives or what not? Shanahan doesn't have much on the DL right now, but if this charge holds water, I think Thomas has to be cut.

 

[massraider]

Good news!! It wasn't my clients coke, he just hangs out with cokeheads when he is too hammered to drive.

I will say this, if this drug test came back negative, that's a real good sign. Although it sure does seem like the results of that test came back real quick.

 

[KoolKat]

Thanks Broncos......You are now officially the poster-boy franchise for drafting, and signing, the most questionable charcter guys in the league. Just about every team would not have touched this guy with a 100-ft pole coming out of college, yet you traded UP to get him. Just like you did for Clarett.Typical Shanahan....and that's why your team has no team chemistry nor karma.......If not for the Chiefs, the Broncos would be the worst team in the AFC West......Yep, that's right, the Raiders will be looking at you in their rear view......

Get your facts straight. We did not trade up for Clarett. As far as being the poster boy for poor character guys...Bengals down? They have had far more issues with character guys. Although the Broncos have made some questionable moves, they are definitely not the poster boy for this kind of stuff. Explain exactly what team Karma is. Karma does not exist my superstitious friend.I am not too afraid of the Raiders, I guess time will tell.

 

[kremenull]

Thanks Broncos......You are now officially the poster-boy franchise for drafting, and signing, the most questionable charcter guys in the league. Just about every team would not have touched this guy with a 100-ft pole coming out of college, yet you traded UP to get him. Just like you did for Clarett.Typical Shanahan....and that's why your team has no team chemistry nor karma.......If not for the Chiefs, the Broncos would be the worst team in the AFC West......Yep, that's right, the Raiders will be looking at you in their rear view......

Get your facts straight. We did not trade up for Clarett. As far as being the poster boy for poor character guys...Bengals down? They have had far more issues with character guys. Although the Broncos have made some questionable moves, they are definitely not the poster boy for this kind of stuff. Explain exactly what team Karma is. Karma does not exist my superstitious friend.I am not too afraid of the Raiders, I guess time will tell.

Karma....i.e., when you sell your soul to try and win at any cost, bad things start happening to you....not only has your team (who has been picked to win the division by many 'experts' or at least qualify for the playoffs) failed miserably on the field based on expectations, you've also experienced quite a bit of misery off of it (2 deaths, Clarett, now Thomas)......need I mention the signing of Travis Henry, another very questionable character, and his 'loophole' acquittal.....again, another player no one else would have touched, or at the least, not given him such a sizable deal as your 'forget about morals' boss, ShanahanThat's bad karma, believe what you will.....but Shanny is in bed with the devil these days and your franchise is paying the price.......Mark my words, you will be down at the bottom with the Chiefs this year.......

 

[moleculo]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

 

[moleculo]

Thanks Broncos......You are now officially the poster-boy franchise for drafting, and signing, the most questionable charcter guys in the league. Just about every team would not have touched this guy with a 100-ft pole coming out of college, yet you traded UP to get him. Just like you did for Clarett.Typical Shanahan....and that's why your team has no team chemistry nor karma.......If not for the Chiefs, the Broncos would be the worst team in the AFC West......Yep, that's right, the Raiders will be looking at you in their rear view......

Get your facts straight. We did not trade up for Clarett. As far as being the poster boy for poor character guys...Bengals down? They have had far more issues with character guys. Although the Broncos have made some questionable moves, they are definitely not the poster boy for this kind of stuff. Explain exactly what team Karma is. Karma does not exist my superstitious friend.I am not too afraid of the Raiders, I guess time will tell.

Karma....i.e., when you sell your soul to try and win at any cost, bad things start happening to you....not only has your team (who has been picked to win the division by many 'experts' or at least qualify for the playoffs) failed miserably on the field based on expectations, you've also experienced quite a bit of misery off of it (2 deaths, Clarett, now Thomas)......need I mention the signing of Travis Henry, another very questionable character, and his 'loophole' acquittal.....again, another player no one else would have touched, or at the least, not given him such a sizable deal as your 'forget about morals' boss, ShanahanThat's bad karma, believe what you will.....but Shanny is in bed with the devil these days and your franchise is paying the price.......Mark my words, you will be down at the bottom with the Chiefs this year.......

uh, ok. 31 NFL teams are clean, Broncos are the sole team that would take a chance on someone with a checkered past who claims to have turned their life around. got it.also - let's also not forget that Clarett never even made a 53 man roster. If you want to use him as an example of Shanahan reaching in the draft, i'm all for it. It's not really appropriate to say he was the cause of "quite a bit of misery".I also take offense to drawing a correlation between the tragic deaths of DWilliams and DNash to Shanahans personnel decisions. Absolutely terrible.

 

[KoolKat]

Thanks Broncos......You are now officially the poster-boy franchise for drafting, and signing, the most questionable charcter guys in the league. Just about every team would not have touched this guy with a 100-ft pole coming out of college, yet you traded UP to get him. Just like you did for Clarett.Typical Shanahan....and that's why your team has no team chemistry nor karma.......If not for the Chiefs, the Broncos would be the worst team in the AFC West......Yep, that's right, the Raiders will be looking at you in their rear view......

Get your facts straight. We did not trade up for Clarett. As far as being the poster boy for poor character guys...Bengals down? They have had far more issues with character guys. Although the Broncos have made some questionable moves, they are definitely not the poster boy for this kind of stuff. Explain exactly what team Karma is. Karma does not exist my superstitious friend.I am not too afraid of the Raiders, I guess time will tell.

Karma....i.e., when you sell your soul to try and win at any cost, bad things start happening to you....not only has your team (who has been picked to win the division by many 'experts' or at least qualify for the playoffs) failed miserably on the field based on expectations, you've also experienced quite a bit of misery off of it (2 deaths, Clarett, now Thomas)......need I mention the signing of Travis Henry, another very questionable character, and his 'loophole' acquittal.....again, another player no one else would have touched, or at the least, not given him such a sizable deal as your 'forget about morals' boss, ShanahanThat's bad karma, believe what you will.....but Shanny is in bed with the devil these days and your franchise is paying the price.......Mark my words, you will be down at the bottom with the Chiefs this year.......

Oh okay. So, your argument is that Darrent Williams and Damien Nash died because Shanahan drafted Clarett and ... that's actually the only evidence you give. Henry of course was signed after D Will died, so I guess you can't blame that on him. Your argument is ver reasonable. I was under the assumption that D Will died because an ignorant, pissed off gang member shot up his limo, and that Nash died from a heart ailment. But I guess you've proven me wrong. Touche. Why stop there. Why don't we blame 9/11 on Belicheck deciding to tape practices and walkthroughs. By your logic, that is just as likely a scenario.Interesting thoughts on karma. My reason forces me to demand proof of phenonomenon as remarkable as your karma. Perhaps you can provide a link to some scientific studies displaying how this magical force works.

 

[kremenull]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

I don't know about you......but I'm not so naive to know that everyone knows the kind of guys they roll with. If I'm hanging out with guys throughout the night, then I pretty much know everything they're into.......so don't come with that lame excuse, he knew the type of cat he was rolling with......if you don't, then catch a cab.Like a wise man once said....."Nothing good happens after 2:00am"......

 

[kremenull]

Thanks Broncos......You are now officially the poster-boy franchise for drafting, and signing, the most questionable charcter guys in the league. Just about every team would not have touched this guy with a 100-ft pole coming out of college, yet you traded UP to get him. Just like you did for Clarett.

Typical Shanahan....and that's why your team has no team chemistry nor karma.......If not for the Chiefs, the Broncos would be the worst team in the AFC West......Yep, that's right, the Raiders will be looking at you in their rear view......

Get your facts straight. We did not trade up for Clarett. As far as being the poster boy for poor character guys...Bengals down? They have had far more issues with character guys. Although the Broncos have made some questionable moves, they are definitely not the poster boy for this kind of stuff.

Explain exactly what team Karma is. Karma does not exist my superstitious friend.

I am not too afraid of the Raiders, I guess time will tell.

Karma....i.e., when you sell your soul to try and win at any cost, bad things start happening to you....not only has your team (who has been picked to win the division by many 'experts' or at least qualify for the playoffs) failed miserably on the field based on expectations, you've also experienced quite a bit of misery off of it (2 deaths, Clarett, now Thomas)......need I mention the signing of Travis Henry, another very questionable character, and his 'loophole' acquittal.....again, another player no one else would have touched, or at the least, not given him such a sizable deal as your 'forget about morals' boss, ShanahanThat's bad karma, believe what you will.....but Shanny is in bed with the devil these days and your franchise is paying the price.......

Mark my words, you will be down at the bottom with the Chiefs this year.......

Oh okay. So, your argument is that Darrent Williams and Damien Nash died because Shanahan drafted Clarett and ... that's actually the only evidence you give. Henry of course was signed after D Will died, so I guess you can't blame that on him. Your argument is ver reasonable. I was under the assumption that D Will died because an ignorant, pissed off gang member shot up his limo, and that Nash died from a heart ailment. But I guess you've proven me wrong. Touche. Why stop there. Why don't we blame 9/11 on Belicheck deciding to tape practices and walkthroughs. By your logic, that is just as likely a scenario.

Interesting thoughts on karma. My reason forces me to demand proof of phenonomenon as remarkable as your karma. Perhaps you can provide a link to some scientific studies displaying how this magical force works.

Karma don't discriminate.....she's attracted to everyone......and she's either bad or good......And no, your sarcasm in no way discredits my point.......your front office is cutting corners, making too many personnel decisions based on very wrong reasons, and it's catching up to you.......and the end (results, i.e, LOSING!) is justification of your means........Of course, no one deserved to die by your personnel decisions, they were just casualties of our society, but my point is that bad things are happening to your franchise, and maybe you all should take a step back and evaluate the decisions you're making about the guys you are bringing in.......maybe if there were some better leaders in that locker room, who's to say, but maybe, just maybe, D.Williams, Javon, and the crew may not have been out that tragic night........But I do recall, the Pats did lose the Super Bowl......Just maybe, another one chalked up to Karma!

 

[moleculo]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

I don't know about you......but I'm not so naive to know that everyone knows the kind of guys they roll with. If I'm hanging out with guys throughout the night, then I pretty much know everything they're into.......so don't come with that lame excuse, he knew the type of cat he was rolling with......if you don't, then catch a cab.Like a wise man once said....."Nothing good happens after 2:00am"......

I'd wager that people you know have things about themselves that they would rather you not know. Everyone has secrets. You probably have secrets too.Also, i don't understand the bolded above. can you translate please?

 

[kremenull]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

I don't know about you......but I'm not so naive to know that everyone knows the kind of guys they roll with. If I'm hanging out with guys throughout the night, then I pretty much know everything they're into.......so don't come with that lame excuse, he knew the type of cat he was rolling with......if you don't, then catch a cab.Like a wise man once said....."Nothing good happens after 2:00am"......

I'd wager that people you know have things about themselves that they would rather you not know. Everyone has secrets. You probably have secrets too.Also, i don't understand the bolded above. can you translate please?

Just that....If you can't understand that one, I don't know what else to say, my man. But I'll try. If you've had life experience and have been out and about during the late-night hours with friends, then you're pretty much hanging with guys you are very familiar with and have some things in common with. I know one thing....if I've got a multi-million dollar career going for me, I'm not going to trust it with either

a) some unknown associate I met at a party, let me repeat one thing, a PARTY.....where typically, alcohol, drugs, and who knows what else, are likely to be involved. This wasn't a bible study my friend; nor

b) any so-called friend who is into carrying around drugs, illegal weapons, or worse, BOTH, in the car with them. I'm not buying this crap about not knowing what your friends are into. Gimme a break. Anyone from the 'streets', and he is from Florida hoods, yes?..... knows very well that you better keep a very close-knit circle around you once you achieve a certain level of success.....and you know everything that's going on in that circle, so pleading ignorance after the fact is just not gonna cut it....at least not by me.

Bottom line, just stop with the excuses, this was an extremely poor decision on both Thomas' fault AND the Broncos' fault for drafting the guy in the 1st place, no matter the outcome of this incident. If this is the type of decisions this guy is going to be making considering his already checkered past, then keep burying your heads in the sand and continue saying that nothing is wrong....

Some notable, and most notably, RECENT, Denver players with 'upstanding' character

T.Henry....3-time offender (yes, I'm counting his last transgression) of the NFL drug policy, 2-3 shy of a dozen out-of-wedlock children...love to have this guy move in to my neighborhood, we need more marijuana abusing, philandering, immature high-profile men around town

M.Clarett.....Stick-up kid armed heavier than Al-Qaeda......Where was this guy when Ollie North needed a right-hand man to broker some of those Arms deals?

M.Thomas....If Florida U kicked this guy off the team, then all I can say is, WOW!

T.Sauerbrun.....Signed AFTER testing positive for steroids and getting suspended by the NFL......were u really that hard-up for a PUNTER??????.....Looks like the roid-rage is continuing as he was recently arrested for an assault

Not isolating this stuff to your team.....just proving my point so you won't continue to be in denial. Anyway, I'm done with you guys, I really couldn't care any less about the Broncos......

 

[moleculo]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

I don't know about you......but I'm not so naive to know that everyone knows the kind of guys they roll with. If I'm hanging out with guys throughout the night, then I pretty much know everything they're into.......so don't come with that lame excuse, he knew the type of cat he was rolling with......if you don't, then catch a cab.Like a wise man once said....."Nothing good happens after 2:00am"......

I'd wager that people you know have things about themselves that they would rather you not know. Everyone has secrets. You probably have secrets too.Also, i don't understand the bolded above. can you translate please?

Just that....If you can't understand that one, I don't know what else to say, my man. But I'll try. If you've had life experience and have been out and about during the late-night hours with friends, then you're pretty much hanging with guys you are very familiar with and have some things in common with. I know one thing....if I've got a multi-million dollar career going for me, I'm not going to trust it with either

a) some unknown associate I met at a party, let me repeat one thing, a PARTY.....where typically, alcohol, drugs, and who knows what else, are likely to be involved. This wasn't a bible study my friend; nor

b) any so-called friend who is into carrying around drugs, illegal weapons, or worse, BOTH, in the car with them. I'm not buying this crap about not knowing what your friends are into. Gimme a break. Anyone from the 'streets', and he is from Florida hoods, yes?..... knows very well that you better keep a very close-knit circle around you once you achieve a certain level of success.....and you know everything that's going on in that circle, so pleading ignorance after the fact is just not gonna cut it....at least not by me.

Bottom line, just stop with the excuses, this was an extremely poor decision on both Thomas' fault AND the Broncos' fault for drafting the guy in the 1st place, no matter the outcome of this incident. If this is the type of decisions this guy is going to be making considering his already checkered past, then keep burying your heads in the sand and continue saying that nothing is wrong....

Some notable, and most notably, RECENT, Denver players with 'upstanding' character

T.Henry....3-time offender (yes, I'm counting his last transgression) of the NFL drug policy, 2-3 shy of a dozen out-of-wedlock children...love to have this guy move in to my neighborhood, we need more marijuana abusing, philandering, immature high-profile men around town

M.Clarett.....Stick-up kid armed heavier than Al-Qaeda......Where was this guy when Ollie North needed a right-hand man to broker some of those Arms deals?

M.Thomas....If Florida U kicked this guy off the team, then all I can say is, WOW!

T.Sauerbrun.....Signed AFTER testing positive for steroids and getting suspended by the NFL......were u really that hard-up for a PUNTER??????.....Looks like the roid-rage is continuing as he was recently arrested for an assault

Not isolating this stuff to your team.....just proving my point so you won't continue to be in denial. Anyway, I'm done with you guys, I really couldn't care any less about the Broncos......

Brother, I'm not, by any means from the streets. but, if I were to find myself at a bar in my home town and ran into some HS friends and had too much to drink, I would have no reason to not accept a ride from them, assuming the driver was sober (no evidence that the driver was not). Some of my HS friends do have a drug record, and I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit that they might be carrying. Would my 2AM, 3-sheets to the wind, judgment come in and say, "wait on a second...what if Ben is carrying?" Heck no, I would never think that. A multi-million dollar contract has nothing to do with that decision, either. And, you know what? Me taking a ride from Ben does not violate any behavior clause what so ever. i am not breaking any law, i am not using any banned substance, I am not doing anything that any red blooded American has eve done, and that is accepting a ride from a friend after having a few too many.please, let's not blow this out of proportion and indict the entire Broncos organization based on this. We don't know the whole story yet, but early indications are that this is terribly benign.

 

[KoolKat]

Thanks Broncos......You are now officially the poster-boy franchise for drafting, and signing, the most questionable charcter guys in the league. Just about every team would not have touched this guy with a 100-ft pole coming out of college, yet you traded UP to get him. Just like you did for Clarett.

Typical Shanahan....and that's why your team has no team chemistry nor karma.......If not for the Chiefs, the Broncos would be the worst team in the AFC West......Yep, that's right, the Raiders will be looking at you in their rear view......

Get your facts straight. We did not trade up for Clarett. As far as being the poster boy for poor character guys...Bengals down? They have had far more issues with character guys. Although the Broncos have made some questionable moves, they are definitely not the poster boy for this kind of stuff.

Explain exactly what team Karma is. Karma does not exist my superstitious friend.

I am not too afraid of the Raiders, I guess time will tell.

Karma....i.e., when you sell your soul to try and win at any cost, bad things start happening to you....not only has your team (who has been picked to win the division by many 'experts' or at least qualify for the playoffs) failed miserably on the field based on expectations, you've also experienced quite a bit of misery off of it (2 deaths, Clarett, now Thomas)......need I mention the signing of Travis Henry, another very questionable character, and his 'loophole' acquittal.....again, another player no one else would have touched, or at the least, not given him such a sizable deal as your 'forget about morals' boss, ShanahanThat's bad karma, believe what you will.....but Shanny is in bed with the devil these days and your franchise is paying the price.......

Mark my words, you will be down at the bottom with the Chiefs this year.......

Oh okay. So, your argument is that Darrent Williams and Damien Nash died because Shanahan drafted Clarett and ... that's actually the only evidence you give. Henry of course was signed after D Will died, so I guess you can't blame that on him. Your argument is ver reasonable. I was under the assumption that D Will died because an ignorant, pissed off gang member shot up his limo, and that Nash died from a heart ailment. But I guess you've proven me wrong. Touche. Why stop there. Why don't we blame 9/11 on Belicheck deciding to tape practices and walkthroughs. By your logic, that is just as likely a scenario.

Interesting thoughts on karma. My reason forces me to demand proof of phenonomenon as remarkable as your karma. Perhaps you can provide a link to some scientific studies displaying how this magical force works.

Karma don't discriminate.....she's attracted to everyone......and she's either bad or good......And no, your sarcasm in no way discredits my point.......your front office is cutting corners, making too many personnel decisions based on very wrong reasons, and it's catching up to you.......and the end (results, i.e, LOSING!) is justification of your means........Of course, no one deserved to die by your personnel decisions, they were just casualties of our society, but my point is that bad things are happening to your franchise, and maybe you all should take a step back and evaluate the decisions you're making about the guys you are bringing in.......maybe if there were some better leaders in that locker room, who's to say, but maybe, just maybe, D.Williams, Javon, and the crew may not have been out that tragic night........But I do recall, the Pats did lose the Super Bowl......Just maybe, another one chalked up to Karma!

Ya, because nobody goes out on New Year's Eve. You are a moron to equate any sort of personnel decisions to someone's life being taken. They were in no way related. Somehow in your warped, deluded mind you have found a way to say undesirable personnel moves rightfully justify your Karma God (which you have no proof or reason to believe in) to take the lives of TWO young men with kids in the prime of their lives. We are not just talking about D Will. Damien Nash died after playing a pick-up game for charity. Good thing karma came to kill him. Actually, you're right, the whole world does revolve around football, and there is some sort of untestable, supernatural power dishing out DEATHS for a business hiring people with troubled pasts. By your logic, people at Supermarkets, Restaurants, Painting Companies, and all other businesses that employ those with records, should have two of 53 people die from their organization every year. Your reasoning, "Karma mad it happen. You hire a guy or two with troubled pass, and karma is going to kill two unrelated people, who were actually bettering society." You are a sick, naive, and ignorant person.

 

[moleculo]

link

Broncos are backing DT after arrest

By Howard Pankratz and Bill Williamson

The Denver Post

Article Last Updated: 03/04/2008 06:09:03 AM MST

Denver Broncos rookie Marcus Thomas at the Broncos headquarters at Dove Valley on Thursday, October 4, 2007. (Cyrus McCrimmon, The Denver Post)

The Broncos are standing by defensive tackle Marcus Thomas, who was riding in a pickup early Saturday in which cocaine was found. The Broncos and Thomas' agent, Richard Burnoski, said Monday the driver of the car, Bryce Carter, admitted the cocaine was his. That confession was not part of the police report.

Carter and Thomas, 22, denied ownership of the cocaine, the officers said. If charges are pursued, Thomas may subject himself to a polygraph test. Thomas was not available for comment Monday, but he has talked with Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.

"The Denver Broncos are aware that Marcus Thomas is under investigation for possession of cocaine and was a passenger where cocaine was found," the Broncos said in a prepared statement.



"The owner-operator of the vehicle has since admitted the cocaine was his, and no cocaine was ever found on Marcus Thomas. Within hours of his release, Marcus had a test which confirmed that there was no cocaine in his system."

Cocaine, a "green leafy substance" and a gun were allegedly seized from the vehicle, according to police reports released by the Orange Park (Fla.) Police Department.

At the time of the arrest, Thomas was riding in an F-150 truck driven by Carter, 24, of Jacksonville, Fla., according to the Orange Park Police Department. Thomas' attorney, Charles Truncale, said the gun doesn't belong to Thomas, who Burnoski admitted was drinking but was not driving.

"It is my understanding that the gun was lawfully registered to Bryce Carter," Truncale said.

Thomas and Carter were high school teammates and they were celebrating a going- away party for Thomas, who was scheduled to return to Denver during the weekend.

Thomas, the Broncos' fourth-round draft choice last year, was kicked off the University of Florida's national championship team in 2006 because he tested positive for marijuana multiple times.

Selected at No. 121 overall, Thomas became a starter last season. When the Broncos drafted him, Shanahan said the team would have a zero-tolerance policy with Thomas should he be convicted of drug use. Monday, Burnoski said the team was supportive and expects the team to withhold judgment until the case is resolved.

The Florida State Attorney's Office said Monday the Thomas case had just been received in its in-take division and the officers involved in the arrest have 72 hours to file a report with prosecutors. Assistant State's Attorney Mary Hults then will decide whether charges are appropriate. The state has 30 days to file charges. Thomas' court date is set for March 18.

Police stopped the truck at approximately 2:27 a.m. Saturday in Orange Park, which is south of Jacksonville.

Officers Joel Grant and Edward Kaczkowski said when Carter was asked to show his license and registration, he reached into the glove box. In there the officers spotted a black and silver semi-automatic pistol, according to the report.

At that point, the officers said they told everyone in the car to put their hands up, but Carter allegedly continued to reach inside the glove box. Carter was instructed several times to take his hand out of the glove box and away from the gun. Carter and Thomas were then ordered out of the truck, placed in custody and read their Miranda rights.

Inside the car, the officers said they found a small plastic bag containing a white powder in the passenger floor board, a green leafy substance in the center console cup-holder and a black pistol magazine with bullets under the console lid.

Officers said the white powder field-tested for cocaine. The gun in the glove box was identified as a Bersa Thunder .380, which is a small handgun.

Carter and Thomas were arrested and booked into the Clay County Jail for possession of a controlled substance. Nita Goodson, clerk of the Clay County court, said Monday that Thomas was released Sunday morning on $2,502 bail.

 

[AKComic]

Of course cocaine is the drug of choice for Marcus Thomas... he's a NOSE tackle! Ba-dum-bum-bum!

...I am so very, very sorry... that was terrible...

 

[kremenull]

Thanks Broncos......You are now officially the poster-boy franchise for drafting, and signing, the most questionable charcter guys in the league. Just about every team would not have touched this guy with a 100-ft pole coming out of college, yet you traded UP to get him. Just like you did for Clarett.

Typical Shanahan....and that's why your team has no team chemistry nor karma.......If not for the Chiefs, the Broncos would be the worst team in the AFC West......Yep, that's right, the Raiders will be looking at you in their rear view......

Get your facts straight. We did not trade up for Clarett. As far as being the poster boy for poor character guys...Bengals down? They have had far more issues with character guys. Although the Broncos have made some questionable moves, they are definitely not the poster boy for this kind of stuff.

Explain exactly what team Karma is. Karma does not exist my superstitious friend.

I am not too afraid of the Raiders, I guess time will tell.

Karma....i.e., when you sell your soul to try and win at any cost, bad things start happening to you....not only has your team (who has been picked to win the division by many 'experts' or at least qualify for the playoffs) failed miserably on the field based on expectations, you've also experienced quite a bit of misery off of it (2 deaths, Clarett, now Thomas)......need I mention the signing of Travis Henry, another very questionable character, and his 'loophole' acquittal.....again, another player no one else would have touched, or at the least, not given him such a sizable deal as your 'forget about morals' boss, ShanahanThat's bad karma, believe what you will.....but Shanny is in bed with the devil these days and your franchise is paying the price.......

Mark my words, you will be down at the bottom with the Chiefs this year.......

Oh okay. So, your argument is that Darrent Williams and Damien Nash died because Shanahan drafted Clarett and ... that's actually the only evidence you give. Henry of course was signed after D Will died, so I guess you can't blame that on him. Your argument is ver reasonable. I was under the assumption that D Will died because an ignorant, pissed off gang member shot up his limo, and that Nash died from a heart ailment. But I guess you've proven me wrong. Touche. Why stop there. Why don't we blame 9/11 on Belicheck deciding to tape practices and walkthroughs. By your logic, that is just as likely a scenario.

Interesting thoughts on karma. My reason forces me to demand proof of phenonomenon as remarkable as your karma. Perhaps you can provide a link to some scientific studies displaying how this magical force works.

Karma don't discriminate.....she's attracted to everyone......and she's either bad or good......And no, your sarcasm in no way discredits my point.......your front office is cutting corners, making too many personnel decisions based on very wrong reasons, and it's catching up to you.......and the end (results, i.e, LOSING!) is justification of your means........Of course, no one deserved to die by your personnel decisions, they were just casualties of our society, but my point is that bad things are happening to your franchise, and maybe you all should take a step back and evaluate the decisions you're making about the guys you are bringing in.......maybe if there were some better leaders in that locker room, who's to say, but maybe, just maybe, D.Williams, Javon, and the crew may not have been out that tragic night........But I do recall, the Pats did lose the Super Bowl......Just maybe, another one chalked up to Karma!

Ya, because nobody goes out on New Year's Eve. You are a moron to equate any sort of personnel decisions to someone's life being taken. They were in no way related. Somehow in your warped, deluded mind you have found a way to say undesirable personnel moves rightfully justify your Karma God (which you have no proof or reason to believe in) to take the lives of TWO young men with kids in the prime of their lives. We are not just talking about D Will. Damien Nash died after playing a pick-up game for charity. Good thing karma came to kill him. Actually, you're right, the whole world does revolve around football, and there is some sort of untestable, supernatural power dishing out DEATHS for a business hiring people with troubled pasts. By your logic, people at Supermarkets, Restaurants, Painting Companies, and all other businesses that employ those with records, should have two of 53 people die from their organization every year. Your reasoning, "Karma mad it happen. You hire a guy or two with troubled pass, and karma is going to kill two unrelated people, who were actually bettering society." You are a sick, naive, and ignorant person.

Look here dude, you know nothing about me other than what you read in these posts. My life experiences will make you look like a choir boy, Jr., so speak on what you know. My opinions don't have to agree with you nor anybody else. You take what you will from my info, but your personal attack here is useless. I'll continue to state my opinions over and over....so deal with it. Tolerance is a learned trait of the sophisticated and progressive peoples of the world......I see you haven't entered this club yet.......

 

[moleculo]

Broncos defensive tackle Thomas will not be charged with drug possession

Broncos defensive tackle Thomas will not be charged with drug possession

May 9, 2008 - 5:46PM

By FRANK SCHWAB, THE GAZETTE

Denver Broncos defensive tackle Marcus Thomas will not face any charges for possession of a controlled substance, an issue that had been clouding his future since he was arrested March 1.



Thomas was cleared and the case was dropped, according to the Clay County (Fla.) Web site. Thomas' lawyer Charles Truncale confirmed that the state attorney informed him charges would not be filed. Thomas was promised no second chances by the Broncos after they took him in the 2007 draft despite a rocky college career off the field, but the team showed patience after his arrest, believing he was innocent.

"I'm just real pleased the system worked," Truncale said.

Thomas was arrested by Orange Park (Fla.) Police in the early morning hours of March 1 for possession of a controlled substance. He spent the night in jail. His representatives claimed the driver, Bryce Carter, took responsibility for a baggie with a small amount of cocaine in the car. That admission was not included in the police report.

Thomas' agent and lawyer said Thomas had been out drinking with friends near his hometown of Jacksonville, Fla., and did not want to drive home, so he got a ride with Carter.

The Broncos, who took Thomas in the fourth round of the 2007 draft even though Thomas had been kicked off Florida's team as a senior, released a statement saying they would monitor the situation before making any decisions.

The state attorney's office had been reviewing the case since then, continuing Thomas' court hearing many times.

well...that settles that.

 

[westbrook36]

I wonder why they doubt he'll face suspension, did they forget to check his blood as well as his pockets or something ? Are the illegal substances not illegal in the off-season ?

If this is his first strike against the drug policy then he will not get suspended. Also if this is a misdemeanor first arrest he will not face suspension.If this becomes a felony charge, a second arrest, or a 2nd strike against the drug policy then he would face suspension.I know he had issues in the past at Penn State, but I don't know if he has had any trouble before this in the NFL.

 

[nittanylion]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

I don't know about you......but I'm not so naive to know that everyone knows the kind of guys they roll with. If I'm hanging out with guys throughout the night, then I pretty much know everything they're into.......so don't come with that lame excuse, he knew the type of cat he was rolling with......if you don't, then catch a cab.Like a wise man once said....."Nothing good happens after 2:00am"......

I'd wager that people you know have things about themselves that they would rather you not know. Everyone has secrets. You probably have secrets too.

So let's out ourselves. I'll start: I like to spank wimmins. There, now I feel better...

Next, please!

 

[SSOG]

T.Henry....3-time offender (yes, I'm counting his last transgression) of the NFL drug policy, 2-3 shy of a dozen out-of-wedlock children...love to have this guy move in to my neighborhood, we need more marijuana abusing, philandering, immature high-profile men around townM.Clarett.....Stick-up kid armed heavier than Al-Qaeda......Where was this guy when Ollie North needed a right-hand man to broker some of those Arms deals?M.Thomas....If Florida U kicked this guy off the team, then all I can say is, WOW!T.Sauerbrun.....Signed AFTER testing positive for steroids and getting suspended by the NFL......were u really that hard-up for a PUNTER??????.....Looks like the roid-rage is continuing as he was recently arrested for an assaultNot isolating this stuff to your team.....just proving my point so you won't continue to be in denial. Anyway, I'm done with you guys, I really couldn't care any less about the Broncos......

First off, get your facts straight- University of Florida is far and away the most character-driven of all of the Florida football programs. Urban Meyer has a reputation as a very strict disciplinarian with little to no patience for extracurriculars. It's FSU and UM that are known as havens for thugs and low-lives, not UF. Also, Marcus Thomas was kicked off for testing positive for Marijuana twice (but within such a short timeframe that he successfully argued that both positives were the result of a single incident), and then for violating the terms of his reinstatement (he went on a daytrip out of town when he was told to remain in Gainesville). Is using marijuana in college really the barometer we want to use now for character? If so, then I'd bet you that 75% of the league is low-character guys. Heck, San Diego takes a guy who tested positive for Steroids in the first round and nobody says a peep, while Denver takes a guy who tested positive for marijuana in the 4th and suddenly they're taking character risks?Second off, Denver's also added players like John Lynch, Champ Bailey, Jay Cutler, and Dominique Foxworth- some of the most upstanding, high-character guys in the league, especially Lynch and Foxworth. It's not like they're going Oakland Raiders or Cincinnati Bengals here. They might have had more high-profile character issues than most teams recently, but they're hardly the poster-child.

 

[SSOG]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

I can safely say zero. None of my friends do cocaine. And before you say that they could secretly be doing it and not telling me, I'll say... no, no they couldn't. Maybe a reasonably close acquaintance could, but not a friend. Now, I could easily see someone who knowingly associates with... shall we say "shady characters"... not knowing if his friend had cocaine in the car, but such a person is far less likely to know whether his friend does cocaine in the first place (or, even worse, more likely to know it and associate with him anyway).Look, it's not all that hard to tell who are the "right kind" and who are the "wrong kind" of people to be associating with. The reason people still associate with the "wrong kind" is because they want to stay true to their roots, or they want to maintain their street cred, or simply because the "wrong kind" are more fun to associate with. Still, it's not like you aren't aware that the guys you're hanging out with are gang-bangers, instigators, or recreational druggies.

My take on this story is that that really wasn't Thomas's cocaine. Whether he knew about it or not is irrelevant, since he's clearly still associating with the wrong kind of person, which is troubling to me.

 

[pgreenfan]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

I can safely say zero. None of my friends do cocaine. And before you say that they could secretly be doing it and not telling me, I'll say... no, no they couldn't. Maybe a reasonably close acquaintance could, but not a friend. Now, I could easily see someone who knowingly associates with... shall we say "shady characters"... not knowing if his friend had cocaine in the car, but such a person is far less likely to know whether his friend does cocaine in the first place (or, even worse, more likely to know it and associate with him anyway).Look, it's not all that hard to tell who are the "right kind" and who are the "wrong kind" of people to be associating with. The reason people still associate with the "wrong kind" is because they want to stay true to their roots, or they want to maintain their street cred, or simply because the "wrong kind" are more fun to associate with. Still, it's not like you aren't aware that the guys you're hanging out with are gang-bangers, instigators, or recreational druggies.

My take on this story is that that really wasn't Thomas's cocaine. Whether he knew about it or not is irrelevant, since he's clearly still associating with the wrong kind of person, which is troubling to me.

Why are you so sure you don't have friends who use cocaine? I have in my life known a pretty good number of "functional" cocaine addicts, hell I knew functional crackheads. I think most people know someone who has done coke at one time or another and have an image of a strung out addict in their mind when it comes to all users which simply isn't the case.

 

[Banger]

ok, I'll defend him here. guy is at a party, has too much to drink, bums a ride from someone. Gets pulled over -

Officer: who does this cocaine belong to?

MThomas: I swear to gawd, it's not mine.

driver: uhh, yeah...it's not mine either.

officer: ok, you're both under arrest.

Is this really a low character issue? The man tested clean (according to the Denver post story anyways), and has repeatedly tested clean. He got into trouble with pot in college, but as far as we know is not in the NFL substance abuse program.

I'm all for waiting for the story to come out before we assume the worst. If there is nothing more to this issue than what is out already, then I think cutting the guy some slack is in order.

Let me also ask this - how many of your friends have coke hidden in their car that you don't know about?

answer - you have no idea.

I can safely say zero. None of my friends do cocaine. And before you say that they could secretly be doing it and not telling me, I'll say... no, no they couldn't. Maybe a reasonably close acquaintance could, but not a friend. Now, I could easily see someone who knowingly associates with... shall we say "shady characters"... not knowing if his friend had cocaine in the car, but such a person is far less likely to know whether his friend does cocaine in the first place (or, even worse, more likely to know it and associate with him anyway).Look, it's not all that hard to tell who are the "right kind" and who are the "wrong kind" of people to be associating with. The reason people still associate with the "wrong kind" is because they want to stay true to their roots, or they want to maintain their street cred, or simply because the "wrong kind" are more fun to associate with. Still, it's not like you aren't aware that the guys you're hanging out with are gang-bangers, instigators, or recreational druggies.

My take on this story is that that really wasn't Thomas's cocaine. Whether he knew about it or not is irrelevant, since he's clearly still associating with the wrong kind of person, which is troubling to me.

Why are you so sure you don't have friends who use cocaine? I have in my life known a pretty good number of "functional" cocaine addicts, hell I knew functional crackheads. I think most people know someone who has done coke at one time or another and have an image of a strung out addict in their mind when it comes to all users which simply isn't the case.

This guy has had problems in the past which is the reason for the short leash. Although he may have dodged this bullet he needs to make sure he doesn't get into a car with, go to a bar with, hang out with guys who may impact his livelihood. That's part of his job, if he wants to keep his job.

 

[SSOG]

Why are you so sure you don't have friends who use cocaine? I have in my life known a pretty good number of "functional" cocaine addicts, hell I knew functional crackheads. I think most people know someone who has done coke at one time or another and have an image of a strung out addict in their mind when it comes to all users which simply isn't the case.

Because I don't have any friends with any sort of disposable income. I understand that "functional" addicts exist, but they're the type of people who can fund their addiction without substantially sacrificing on necessities like rent or food. All of my friends are either just out of college and drowning in debt, or just finishing up college and lacking a noticeable income.The thing is, though... Marcus Thomas is in the same age bracket, here. He's not going to be hobnobbing with 36 year old Wall Street brokers or 45 year old upper-middle class white collar socialites. All of his friends are going to be in the same boat- simply lacking the disposable income to hide a habit of that magnitude. Maybe it's me drowning in my own preconcieved notions here, but let's just say that I highly doubt that Thomas is surprised to learn what kind of people he's associating with.

 

[Thorpe]

Why are you so sure you don't have friends who use cocaine? I have in my life known a pretty good number of "functional" cocaine addicts, hell I knew functional crackheads. I think most people know someone who has done coke at one time or another and have an image of a strung out addict in their mind when it comes to all users which simply isn't the case.

Because I don't have any friends with any sort of disposable income. I understand that "functional" addicts exist, but they're the type of people who can fund their addiction without substantially sacrificing on necessities like rent or food. All of my friends are either just out of college and drowning in debt, or just finishing up college and lacking a noticeable income.The thing is, though... Marcus Thomas is in the same age bracket, here. He's not going to be hobnobbing with 36 year old Wall Street brokers or 45 year old upper-middle class white collar socialites. All of his friends are going to be in the same boat- simply lacking the disposable income to hide a habit of that magnitude. Maybe it's me drowning in my own preconcieved notions here, but let's just say that I highly doubt that Thomas is surprised to learn what kind of people he's associating with.

First, there were trace amounts of coke, so to say "a habit of that magnitude" is adding something to the story that was not reported. Secondly, lack of disposable income does not rule out drug use, because they can be selling enough to fund what they use. And a lot of people just do a little on the weekends when they are drinking.

 

[Banger]

Why are you so sure you don't have friends who use cocaine? I have in my life known a pretty good number of "functional" cocaine addicts, hell I knew functional crackheads. I think most people know someone who has done coke at one time or another and have an image of a strung out addict in their mind when it comes to all users which simply isn't the case.

Because I don't have any friends with any sort of disposable income. I understand that "functional" addicts exist, but they're the type of people who can fund their addiction without substantially sacrificing on necessities like rent or food. All of my friends are either just out of college and drowning in debt, or just finishing up college and lacking a noticeable income.The thing is, though... Marcus Thomas is in the same age bracket, here. He's not going to be hobnobbing with 36 year old Wall Street brokers or 45 year old upper-middle class white collar socialites. All of his friends are going to be in the same boat- simply lacking the disposable income to hide a habit of that magnitude. Maybe it's me drowning in my own preconcieved notions here, but let's just say that I highly doubt that Thomas is surprised to learn what kind of people he's associating with.

First, there were trace amounts of coke, so to say "a habit of that magnitude" is adding something to the story that was not reported. Secondly, lack of disposable income does not rule out drug use, because they can be selling enough to fund what they use. And a lot of people just do a little on the weekends when they are drinking.

ok.....but if Thomas wants to keep his job he's got to separate himself from those people.

 

[SSOG]

First, there were trace amounts of coke, so to say "a habit of that magnitude" is adding something to the story that was not reported. Secondly, lack of disposable income does not rule out drug use, because they can be selling enough to fund what they use. And a lot of people just do a little on the weekends when they are drinking.

My point wasn't that people without much disposable income couldn't do coke, my point was that people without much disposable income couldn't easily HIDE the fact that they did coke. Selling your possessions would be a pretty big tipoff to your friends that you have a problem, no?I stand by my claim. It's pretty easy to tell who are the right and who are the wrong kinds of people to be assocating with when you have that much to lose, and it's pretty clear that Thomas has picked the wrong kind. As a Broncos fan, I hope he wises up, because he's got incredible talent and I'd hate to see it all go to waste.