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[Rozelle]

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Bears | Anderson on top of the depth chart

Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:51:46 -0700

Larry Mayer, of ChicagoBears.com, reports Chicago Bears defensive line coach Brick Haley said DE Mark Anderson is above DE Alex Brown on the team's depth chart. "He's [Anderson] not going to be in the game only on third down or second-and-long. He's going to play three downs," Haley said.

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After Mark Anderson’s breakthrough rookie year, what’s the key for him to take the next step?

His work ethic is getting him to where he needs to be. He’s got really good quickness, speed and agility. The thing he has to do now is be able to be a better run defender for us. He’s not going to be in the game only on third down or second-and-long. He's going to play three downs. If he keeps working to get better at that I think we’ll be fine.

How has Alex Brown handled moving behind Mark Anderson on the depth chart?

Alex has been a gentleman. He’s been a model guy for us. He did a good job [in offseason workouts]. He works hard every day. He comes out and gives you what he’s got. He’s a talented guy. He understands all the things that are going on and we’ve had no problem.

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[BLOX]

This really needs to stay quiet.

I don't know if he can break into the top 10, but definitely a top 20 guy as a #3 DL would be great.

 

[Bizkiteer]

This really needs to stay quiet.I don't know if he can break into the top 10, but definitely a top 20 guy as a #3 DL would be great.

KGB was a better player when he wasn't on the field every down. Not saying that Anderson is the same, but more playing time/downs for a speed rushing DE's doesn't automatically mean it's better.

 

[bcr8f]

This really needs to stay quiet.I don't know if he can break into the top 10, but definitely a top 20 guy as a #3 DL would be great.

KGB was a better player when he wasn't on the field every down. Not saying that Anderson is the same, but more playing time/downs for a speed rushing DE's doesn't automatically mean it's better.

Most of Anderson's tackles were QB's. He has 12 sacks and 23 tackles (so 11 tackles other than QB's)plus 5 assists. Still he is 16 on the dynasty rankings.

 

[Rozelle]

KGB was a better player when he wasn't on the field every down. Not saying that Anderson is the same, but more playing time/downs for a speed rushing DE's doesn't automatically mean it's better.

True and good point ... but I'd rather have opportunity.

Most of Anderson's tackles were QB's. He has 12 sacks and 23 tackles (so 11 tackles other than QB's)plus 5 assists. Still he is 16 on the dynasty rankings.

Tackle numbers sounds about right for a player who really only played on passing downs. You feel his ranking is too high for those type of numbers, maybe ... I don't pay much attention to the rankings.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

If Anderson can play respectable run defense, he literally could crack the top 10 easy. I have him ranked 16th; I can't raise him any higher just yet. I do question whether or not he can be an every down player, and maintain his pass rushing numbers.

 

[bcr8f]

KGB was a better player when he wasn't on the field every down. Not saying that Anderson is the same, but more playing time/downs for a speed rushing DE's doesn't automatically mean it's better.

True and good point ... but I'd rather have opportunity.

Most of Anderson's tackles were QB's. He has 12 sacks and 23 tackles (so 11 tackles other than QB's)plus 5 assists. Still he is 16 on the dynasty rankings.

Tackle numbers sounds about right for a player who really only played on passing downs. You feel his ranking is too high for those type of numbers, maybe ... I don't pay much attention to the rankings.

No I like him, was just pointing out he was mainly a pass rusher. I hope he makes the transition to reliable starter. He has a great opportunity and I hear he is working hard to get there. I have him on a taxi squad with C Grant, Kampman, Little and Andre Carter. I think Carter and Anderson both have great potential.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

All signs point to Anderson being a starter ahead of Brown. If he just adds 15-20 tackles in run support to what he did last year, he'll be top 10. He's the designated headhunter for the scariest defense in the league. What's not to like? One you get past the top 9 or 10 DL, the guys who routinely finish in the top 15, I really like Anderson.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

All signs point to Anderson being a starter ahead of Brown. If he just adds 15-20 tackles in run support to what he did last year, he'll be top 10. He's the designated headhunter for the scariest defense in the league. What's not to like? One you get past the top 9 or 10 DL, the guys who routinely finish in the top 15, I really like Anderson.

Do you have any concerns about him wearing down playing in run support, and having that adversely affect his pass rushing? That is the red flag for me considering that he is undersized. I have him 16th currently, but the wearing down concerns me.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

All signs point to Anderson being a starter ahead of Brown. If he just adds 15-20 tackles in run support to what he did last year, he'll be top 10. He's the designated headhunter for the scariest defense in the league. What's not to like? One you get past the top 9 or 10 DL, the guys who routinely finish in the top 15, I really like Anderson.

Do you have any concerns about him wearing down playing in run support, and having that adversely affect his pass rushing? That is the red flag for me considering that he is undersized. I have him 16th currently, but the wearing down concerns me.

I think that the Bears will rotate enough that that will not be a problem, but it's a fair question. Robert Mathis is even lighter. He had a 2004 similar to Anderson's 2006, and once he went full time, he posted back to back top 10 finishes. Robert Geathers could get a similar opportunity soon in Cincinnati.

 

[Bizkiteer]

All signs point to Anderson being a starter ahead of Brown. If he just adds 15-20 tackles in run support to what he did last year, he'll be top 10. He's the designated headhunter for the scariest defense in the league. What's not to like? One you get past the top 9 or 10 DL, the guys who routinely finish in the top 15, I really like Anderson.

Do you have any concerns about him wearing down playing in run support, and having that adversely affect his pass rushing? That is the red flag for me considering that he is undersized. I have him 16th currently, but the wearing down concerns me.

This is why it's not always better for more opportunity in regards to speed rushing DE's. Granted, I too subscribe to opportunity = chance to get more pts. I just wanted to throw caution out there to those who think automatically that more playing time would equal much higher production. Again, not saying this will be the case for Anderson, but it's worth mentioning. He did look good in his limited role last year, so I can see why many will have even greater temptation and/or excitement this upcoming year.

 

[Rozelle]

All signs point to Anderson being a starter ahead of Brown. If he just adds 15-20 tackles in run support to what he did last year, he'll be top 10. He's the designated headhunter for the scariest defense in the league. What's not to like? One you get past the top 9 or 10 DL, the guys who routinely finish in the top 15, I really like Anderson.

Do you have any concerns about him wearing down playing in run support, and having that adversely affect his pass rushing? That is the red flag for me considering that he is undersized. I have him 16th currently, but the wearing down concerns me.

Anderson has the frame to get bigger and has added a few pounds since '06 combine. His playing weight (258) is pretty much right there with Alex Brown (260). His high motor and backside pursuit-chase ability will be good for some tackles in run support. Because of his size, I can see (wearing down) could be a concern for some. They will still rotate to some extent. He should be fine and have nice production.

 

[GridironMenace]

He will not be a 3 down DE. There will be a 3 man rotation between him, Brown and Oggle's. Brown will be the odd man out for most series but Anderson certainly will not be a 3 down DE as long as all three are healthy.

 

[sholditch]

This really needs to stay quiet.I don't know if he can break into the top 10, but definitely a top 20 guy as a #3 DL would be great.

The guy got 10 sacks while only playing in situations. He will be a monster DE. Easily top 10 if not top 5.

 

[Rozelle]

He will not be a 3 down DE. There will be a 3 man rotation between him, Brown and Oggle's. Brown will be the odd man out for most series but Anderson certainly will not be a 3 down DE as long as all three are healthy.

So you think Bears defensive line coach Brick Haley is blowing smoke? Or are you really Bob Babich? Do you have a link to support this, or is this your opinion?

 

[GridironMenace]

He will not be a 3 down DE. There will be a 3 man rotation between him, Brown and Oggle's. Brown will be the odd man out for most series but Anderson certainly will not be a 3 down DE as long as all three are healthy.

So you think Bears defensive line coach Brick Haley is blowing smoke? Or are you really Bob Babich? Do you have a link to support this, or is this your opinion?

Do I think he is blowing smoke? Partially. I am from Chicago so I know exactly what is going on. Alex Brown has asked to be traded, because he is in a rotation and he doesn't want to be. The Bears won't trade Brown this year, because they need him for Superbowl run- but expect to see Brown in a different uniform in 2008. Anderson isn't going to sneak up on teams anymore so he will get a lot more attention when he is on the field. Anderson is a pure pass rusher. He cannot stop the run...at all. Anderson will play more snaps this year than last year, but teams will run right at him and they will give him attention on obvious passing downs. However, on obvious rushing down, expect to see Anderson on the bench a lot. The Bears play a much tougher schedule than they did last year, so I don't expect to see the teams being forced to throw the ball in the entire 2nd half to catch up. Bottom line is that Anderson will play about 60% of the time. He will get more attention this year in double teams and teams will exploit his poor rush defense. I would be completely shocked honestly if Anderson exceeded his sack total even with more PT this year.

 

[bcr8f]

Do I think he is blowing smoke? Partially. I am from Chicago so I know exactly what is going on. Alex Brown has asked to be traded, because he is in a rotation and he doesn't want to be. The Bears won't trade Brown this year, because they need him for Superbowl run- but expect to see Brown in a different uniform in 2008. Anderson isn't going to sneak up on teams anymore so he will get a lot more attention when he is on the field. Anderson is a pure pass rusher. He cannot stop the run...at all. Anderson will play more snaps this year than last year, but teams will run right at him and they will give him attention on obvious passing downs. However, on obvious rushing down, expect to see Anderson on the bench a lot. The Bears play a much tougher schedule than they did last year, so I don't expect to see the teams being forced to throw the ball in the entire 2nd half to catch up. Bottom line is that Anderson will play about 60% of the time. He will get more attention this year in double teams and teams will exploit his poor rush defense. I would be completely shocked honestly if Anderson exceeded his sack total even with more PT this year.

Strong opinions are nice but what is this based on?

 

[lord_helmet]

Do I think he is blowing smoke? Partially. I am from Chicago so I know exactly what is going on. Alex Brown has asked to be traded, because he is in a rotation and he doesn't want to be. The Bears won't trade Brown this year, because they need him for Superbowl run- but expect to see Brown in a different uniform in 2008. Anderson isn't going to sneak up on teams anymore so he will get a lot more attention when he is on the field. Anderson is a pure pass rusher. He cannot stop the run...at all. Anderson will play more snaps this year than last year, but teams will run right at him and they will give him attention on obvious passing downs. However, on obvious rushing down, expect to see Anderson on the bench a lot. The Bears play a much tougher schedule than they did last year, so I don't expect to see the teams being forced to throw the ball in the entire 2nd half to catch up. Bottom line is that Anderson will play about 60% of the time. He will get more attention this year in double teams and teams will exploit his poor rush defense. I would be completely shocked honestly if Anderson exceeded his sack total even with more PT this year.

Strong opinions are nice but what is this based on?

Lemme guess... The reasons he describes in his post ?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Until I hear otherwise, I'll take the word of the Bears coach with regards to his playing time. I do have mild concerns about his ability to maintain his pass rushing numbers with an increase in playing time. He is somewhat undersized, and wearing down has to be a concern. But it is possible he could handle it, Robert Mathis does and he is even more undersized.

 

[Jene Bramel]

He will not be a 3 down DE. There will be a 3 man rotation between him, Brown and Oggle's. Brown will be the odd man out for most series but Anderson certainly will not be a 3 down DE as long as all three are healthy.

So you think Bears defensive line coach Brick Haley is blowing smoke? Or are you really Bob Babich? Do you have a link to support this, or is this your opinion?

Do I think he is blowing smoke? Partially. I am from Chicago so I know exactly what is going on. Alex Brown has asked to be traded, because he is in a rotation and he doesn't want to be. The Bears won't trade Brown this year, because they need him for Superbowl run- but expect to see Brown in a different uniform in 2008. Anderson isn't going to sneak up on teams anymore so he will get a lot more attention when he is on the field. Anderson is a pure pass rusher. He cannot stop the run...at all. Anderson will play more snaps this year than last year, but teams will run right at him and they will give him attention on obvious passing downs. However, on obvious rushing down, expect to see Anderson on the bench a lot. The Bears play a much tougher schedule than they did last year, so I don't expect to see the teams being forced to throw the ball in the entire 2nd half to catch up. Bottom line is that Anderson will play about 60% of the time. He will get more attention this year in double teams and teams will exploit his poor rush defense. I would be completely shocked honestly if Anderson exceeded his sack total even with more PT this year.

I don't agree that he's proven himself to be useless as a run stopper. He played very few snaps last year where he wasn't asked to rush the passer. Of those early downs I saw against Minnesota early and a couple other teams late, Anderson looked better in pursuit than at the point of attack but he wasn't a complete liability. As was noted above, the coaching staff has been quoted calling Anderson a "three down player". He'll certainly rotate out, but it would be a surprise after those comments if he plays only 60% of the snaps. There aren't many "obvious" rushing downs in the NFL any more.FWIW, I agree that Anderson might be hard pressed to repeat his 2006 sack total. Then again, 12.5 sacks is a pretty hefty target to reach in back to back seasons anyway.

 

[Rozelle]

I don't think Anderson is useless vs the run either.

Alex Brown could see time at DT.

And ... I agree Anderson will be hard pressed to reach his sack total from last year.

Hey ... time will tell, we'll see how this plays out.

 

[bcr8f]

I don't think Anderson is useless vs the run either. Alex Brown could see time at DT. And ... I agree Anderson will be hard pressed to reach his sack total from last year.Hey ... time will tell, we'll see how this plays out.

Has Brown bulked up? He is only 260 according to NFL.com. If the coaches didn't think Anderson could do the job why demote Alex Brown. This is a good defense after all. What do you think of Dvoracek? Will he take over for Tank later this year?

 

[Jene Bramel]

Anderson is a more explosive player than Brown. He's a perfect fit for a Tampa-2 line, although it'll be interesting to see how much Tampa-2 they use with Archuleta in the lineup. It's interesting you mention Brown "bulking up". It's been suggested that he may rotate inside on nickel downs and rush from inside. He's always played with better leverage this his size.

Dvoracek is going to be given every chance to win the nose tackle job. He took a lot of first team snaps in OTAs, with Anthony Adams rotating in.

 

[sholditch]

He will not be a 3 down DE. There will be a 3 man rotation between him, Brown and Oggle's. Brown will be the odd man out for most series but Anderson certainly will not be a 3 down DE as long as all three are healthy.

So you think Bears defensive line coach Brick Haley is blowing smoke? Or are you really Bob Babich? Do you have a link to support this, or is this your opinion?

Do I think he is blowing smoke? Partially. I am from Chicago so I know exactly what is going on. Alex Brown has asked to be traded, because he is in a rotation and he doesn't want to be. The Bears won't trade Brown this year, because they need him for Superbowl run- but expect to see Brown in a different uniform in 2008. Anderson isn't going to sneak up on teams anymore so he will get a lot more attention when he is on the field. Anderson is a pure pass rusher. He cannot stop the run...at all. Anderson will play more snaps this year than last year, but teams will run right at him and they will give him attention on obvious passing downs. However, on obvious rushing down, expect to see Anderson on the bench a lot. The Bears play a much tougher schedule than they did last year, so I don't expect to see the teams being forced to throw the ball in the entire 2nd half to catch up. Bottom line is that Anderson will play about 60% of the time. He will get more attention this year in double teams and teams will exploit his poor rush defense. I would be completely shocked honestly if Anderson exceeded his sack total even with more PT this year.

Anderson did a great job of stopping the run at Bama, in a conference where the run is emphasized more than most.

 

[GridironMenace]

Honestly, I can't reveal my sources but lets just say that I am friendly with several sports radio personalities here in Chicago and they told me. Brown will never line up as a DT. He won't play there even 1 snap.

Take a look at Anderson's stats last year. He had 23 solos and 12 sacks. He played in 16 games and never had more than 2 solo, non-sack, tackles in any game. The knock against him is that he is too light to handle O-Lineman and FB's. Plus he goes after the QB so hard and so fast that he runs outside of the play most of the time, which leads him to be out of position. He must improve in this area to be on the field. And certainly wouldn't compare his days at Alabama stopping the run to the NFL. A little different.

Plus, we all know that term "coach speak". All coaches are good at it. Motivation tactic and they should all be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm not saying that he is a bad player. He is very good. However, when I read post that Anderson is guaranteed to be a top 10 DE and most likely top 5, I feel like we should hold back the reigns a little bit.

I've said my peace. Good luck to Anderson and his owners. But don't say I didn't tell you so if he winds up with 35-40 solos and 7 or 8 sacks.

 

[sholditch]

I didn't make any comparisons. I just said he was good at stopping the run in college. Keep in mind the names he was going against: Joseph Addai, Ronnie Brown, Caddy, Norwood, etc. He wasn't asked to do much last year other than sack the QB. Just because he did what he was asked doesn't mean he can't do other things. Just like people say Benson can't catch because he only caught 8 passes his whole career. Well, that's 8 of 11 targets his whole career.

Jury's out, I know.

 

[Rozelle]

Honestly, I can't reveal my sources but lets just say that I am friendly with several sports radio personalities here in Chicago and they told me. Brown will never line up as a DT. He won't play there even 1 snap. Take a look at Anderson's stats last year. He had 23 solos and 12 sacks. He played in 16 games and never had more than 2 solo, non-sack, tackles in any game. The knock against him is that he is too light to handle O-Lineman and FB's. Plus he goes after the QB so hard and so fast that he runs outside of the play most of the time, which leads him to be out of position. He must improve in this area to be on the field. And certainly wouldn't compare his days at Alabama stopping the run to the NFL. A little different.Plus, we all know that term "coach speak". All coaches are good at it. Motivation tactic and they should all be taken with a grain of salt.I'm not saying that he is a bad player. He is very good. However, when I read post that Anderson is guaranteed to be a top 10 DE and most likely top 5, I feel like we should hold back the reigns a little bit.I've said my peace. Good luck to Anderson and his owners. But don't say I didn't tell you so if he winds up with 35-40 solos and 7 or 8 sacks.

Fair enough ... I'm not one who thinks he'll be top 10, but I think he is better vs the run then he is givin credit for (by some). The things I've read about Anderson: hard worker, willing to learn, and has a good attitude, makes me optimistic he will improve in all area's of his game.

 

[bcr8f]

I'm not saying that he is a bad player. He is very good. However, when I read post that Anderson is guaranteed to be a top 10 DE and most likely top 5, I feel like we should hold back the reigns a little bit.

I've said my peace. Good luck to Anderson and his owners. But don't say I didn't tell you so if he winds up with 35-40 solos and 7 or 8 sacks.

I re-read every comment here and no one said he was guaranteed to be a top 10 DE.

 

[sholditch]

I said it and I stand by it. But I don't play with DL so I'm pretty ignorant on the overall stats. I just think the 05 Bama defense is going to prove one of the best source of great NFL defenders in recent memory. Roll Tide, Mark, roll.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Honestly, I can't reveal my sources but lets just say that I am friendly with several sports radio personalities here in Chicago and they told me. Brown will never line up as a DT. He won't play there even 1 snap. Take a look at Anderson's stats last year. He had 23 solos and 12 sacks. He played in 16 games and never had more than 2 solo, non-sack, tackles in any game. The knock against him is that he is too light to handle O-Lineman and FB's. Plus he goes after the QB so hard and so fast that he runs outside of the play most of the time, which leads him to be out of position. He must improve in this area to be on the field. And certainly wouldn't compare his days at Alabama stopping the run to the NFL. A little different.Plus, we all know that term "coach speak". All coaches are good at it. Motivation tactic and they should all be taken with a grain of salt.I'm not saying that he is a bad player. He is very good. However, when I read post that Anderson is guaranteed to be a top 10 DE and most likely top 5, I feel like we should hold back the reigns a little bit.I've said my peace. Good luck to Anderson and his owners. But don't say I didn't tell you so if he winds up with 35-40 solos and 7 or 8 sacks.

Thanks GM. We're all interested to see if Anderson plays well when he has more responsibility than just pinning his ears back and rushing the quarterback. No staffer at FBG has Anderson in the top ten (highest = 11) and he's the consensus 14th DL for this year with an average ranking of 15. Last year's #16 DL (ironically Alex Brown) had 41 solos and 7 sacks. So, at least internally, we're consistent with the be wary of the full time role but respect his upside argument. I can remember only 10-15 plays where Anderson played on downs where it was unclear whether the offense was passing. So the sample size for the tackle data is very limited. I wasn't real optimistic about Brown playing inside either, but things like that are always worth mentioning.

 

[bcr8f]

I said it and I stand by it. But I don't play with DL so I'm pretty ignorant on the overall stats. I just think the 05 Bama defense is going to prove one of the best source of great NFL defenders in recent memory. Roll Tide, Mark, roll.

ALABAMADRAFTED PLAYERS POS ROUND PK(OVR) TEAMDeMeco Ryans OLB 2 1(33) HoustonRoman Harper S 2 11(43) New OrleansBrodie Croyle QB 3 21(85) Kansas CityCharlie Peprah S 5 26(158) NY GiantsMark Anderson DE 5 27(159) ChicagoNot bad.

 

[Donnybrook]

He will not be a 3 down DE. There will be a 3 man rotation between him, Brown and Oggle's. Brown will be the odd man out for most series but Anderson certainly will not be a 3 down DE as long as all three are healthy.

He may have to be.

Bears | Ogunleye being shopped?

Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:42:18 -0700

John Mullin, of the Chicago Tribune, reports the Chicago Bears have casually shopped DE Adewale Ogunleye to other teams, but his $3.9 million base salary in 2007 was a deal-breaker, according to word around the NFL.

 

[Rozelle]

Anyone else see Anderson chase down the RB from the backside vs Houston. Impressive!!! Not sure how much he played, a quarter or so I suppose ... he had a couple of solos's and another called back by penalty. Not too shabby