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Mark Cuban on prejudices (1 Viewer)

I understand that the media is mostly filled with middle aged white people, but why is it that only racism from a white person is considered to be harmful? Not even fishing here, not trying to turn this into a white v black issue, since there is a lot of other colors making fun of each other as well.

 
If you want all of us — black, white, or any other color — if you want us to respect you, if you want us to look at you in a different way, if you want us not to be afraid to walk down the same side of the street with you, if you want folks not to jump out of the elevator when you get on, if you want folks to stop following you around in stores when you’re out shopping, if you want somebody to offer you a job or an internship somewhere, if you don’t want folks to be looking in or trying to go in a different direction when they see two or twenty of you coming down the street, then stop acting like idiots and fools, out in the streets of the city of Philadelphia. Just cut it out. And another thing. Take those doggone hoodies down, especially in the summer.
 
Anyone who says they wouldn't be intimidated by any guy, black or white, in a hoodie, walking down the street in your direction late at night is lying. Cuban said nothing wrong whatsoever.
You calling me a liar?

You should maybe consider the possibility that not everyone has the same life experiences as perspectives as a Dallas billionaire or a suburban Connecticut football enthusiast. Some of us pass people in hoodies all the time and nothing bad ever happens.
Haven't been back here in a while, but yes, you are a liar if you say you would feel perfectly comfortable walking down a dark street late at night, and someone in a hoodie was walking towards you. Hell, I was walking down the street a couple weeks ago at dusk, as a middle aged white guy, and this younger white girl walking her dog crossed the street, before she got to me and then back over after we passed. I knew she was just being precocious, and thought, why shouldn't she? Should I be offended? Cause I'm not.

And, btw, I'm not some rich suburban Connecticut guy, but it's nice of you to stereotype in a stereotype thread.

 
Anyone who says they wouldn't be intimidated by any guy, black or white, in a hoodie, walking down the street in your direction late at night is lying. Cuban said nothing wrong whatsoever.
You calling me a liar?

You should maybe consider the possibility that not everyone has the same life experiences as perspectives as a Dallas billionaire or a suburban Connecticut football enthusiast. Some of us pass people in hoodies all the time and nothing bad ever happens.
Haven't been back here in a while, but yes, you are a liar if you say you would feel perfectly comfortable walking down a dark street late at night, and someone in a hoodie was walking towards you. Hell, I was walking down the street a couple weeks ago at dusk, as a middle aged white guy, and this younger white girl walking her dog crossed the street, before she got to me and then back over after we passed. I knew she was just being precocious, and thought, why shouldn't she? Should I be offended? Cause I'm not.

And, btw, I'm not some rich suburban Connecticut guy, but it's nice of you to stereotype in a stereotype thread.
I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say in any of this. Especially the bizarre and irrelevant anecdote about seeing some white people on your walk.

Anyway, I'm not lying, although I appreciate you thinking that I must be because it's impossible for someone not to worry about a kid in a hoodie. When you walk down the street late at night frequently and see people walking in your direction frequently, eventually you stop sweating it regardless of what they're wearing.

Also I never said you were rich, only that you're a "suburban Connecticut football enthusiast," information that can be gleaned from your alias and location.

 
I understand that the media is mostly filled with middle aged white people, but why is it that only racism from a white person is considered to be harmful? Not even fishing here, not trying to turn this into a white v black issue, since there is a lot of other colors making fun of each other as well.
Think about the history of our country. That's why.

 
I understand that the media is mostly filled with middle aged white people, but why is it that only racism from a white person is considered to be harmful? Not even fishing here, not trying to turn this into a white v black issue, since there is a lot of other colors making fun of each other as well.
Think about the history of our country. That's why.
I'll repost this for anyone seriously interested in the subject. As I said before, don't be discouraged by the title (which is really more an attention-grabber than a theme of the work) or the length. It's worth your time.

 
TobiasFunke said:
PatsFanCT said:
Anyone who says they wouldn't be intimidated by any guy, black or white, in a hoodie, walking down the street in your direction late at night is lying. Cuban said nothing wrong whatsoever.
You calling me a liar?

You should maybe consider the possibility that not everyone has the same life experiences as perspectives as a Dallas billionaire or a suburban Connecticut football enthusiast. Some of us pass people in hoodies all the time and nothing bad ever happens.
Haven't been back here in a while, but yes, you are a liar if you say you would feel perfectly comfortable walking down a dark street late at night, and someone in a hoodie was walking towards you. Hell, I was walking down the street a couple weeks ago at dusk, as a middle aged white guy, and this younger white girl walking her dog crossed the street, before she got to me and then back over after we passed. I knew she was just being precocious, and thought, why shouldn't she? Should I be offended? Cause I'm not.

And, btw, I'm not some rich suburban Connecticut guy, but it's nice of you to stereotype in a stereotype thread.
I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say in any of this. Especially the bizarre and irrelevant anecdote about seeing some white people on your walk.

Anyway, I'm not lying, although I appreciate you thinking that I must be because it's impossible for someone not to worry about a kid in a hoodie. When you walk down the street late at night frequently and see people walking in your direction frequently, eventually you stop sweating it regardless of what they're wearing.

Also I never said you were rich, only that you're a "suburban Connecticut football enthusiast," information that can be gleaned from your alias and location.
Well let's see. Since you "honestly" have no idea what I am trying to say, let me break it down for you, and the other bad assses.

First, I'm saying that it's natural for any person to feel intimidated when walking alone, late at night and someone is walking towards you in the other direction. Maybe you're Chuck Lidell, or have a couple of Dirty Harry .45's on you, not sure what's so confusing about that. That also clarifies my "bizarre and irrelevant anecdote". A young white girl would cross the road when she sees a white guy walking her way in the same direction on a secluded road. It's not a racist thing, it's a cautious thing.

Second, you're the one that brought up suburban Connecticut. Clearly pointing out that you think it's all rainbows and Unicorns here, when it is far from not.

Mark Cuban said nothing wrong whatsoever, and it's ridiculous for anyone to think differently.

 
TobiasFunke said:
PatsFanCT said:
Anyone who says they wouldn't be intimidated by any guy, black or white, in a hoodie, walking down the street in your direction late at night is lying. Cuban said nothing wrong whatsoever.
You calling me a liar?

You should maybe consider the possibility that not everyone has the same life experiences as perspectives as a Dallas billionaire or a suburban Connecticut football enthusiast. Some of us pass people in hoodies all the time and nothing bad ever happens.
Haven't been back here in a while, but yes, you are a liar if you say you would feel perfectly comfortable walking down a dark street late at night, and someone in a hoodie was walking towards you. Hell, I was walking down the street a couple weeks ago at dusk, as a middle aged white guy, and this younger white girl walking her dog crossed the street, before she got to me and then back over after we passed. I knew she was just being precocious, and thought, why shouldn't she? Should I be offended? Cause I'm not.

And, btw, I'm not some rich suburban Connecticut guy, but it's nice of you to stereotype in a stereotype thread.
I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say in any of this. Especially the bizarre and irrelevant anecdote about seeing some white people on your walk.

Anyway, I'm not lying, although I appreciate you thinking that I must be because it's impossible for someone not to worry about a kid in a hoodie. When you walk down the street late at night frequently and see people walking in your direction frequently, eventually you stop sweating it regardless of what they're wearing.

Also I never said you were rich, only that you're a "suburban Connecticut football enthusiast," information that can be gleaned from your alias and location.
Well let's see. Since you "honestly" have no idea what I am trying to say, let me break it down for you, and the other bad assses.

First, I'm saying that it's natural for any person to feel intimidated when walking alone, late at night and someone is walking towards you in the other direction. Maybe you're Chuck Lidell, or have a couple of Dirty Harry .45's on you, not sure what's so confusing about that. That also clarifies my "bizarre and irrelevant anecdote". A young white girl would cross the road when she sees a white guy walking her way in the same direction on a secluded road. It's not a racist thing, it's a cautious thing.

Second, you're the one that brought up suburban Connecticut. Clearly pointing out that you think it's all rainbows and Unicorns here, when it is far from not.

Mark Cuban said nothing wrong whatsoever, and it's ridiculous for anyone to think differently.
I don't know who you're arguing with on Cuban, nobody seems to have a big problem with what he said other than the poorly phrased reference to black people in hoodies after the Trayvon Martin thing.

I brought up Suburban CT and "Dallas billionaire" to make the point that everyone has different life experiences that color their reactions to different things. It has nothing to do with whether your neighborhood is rainbows and unicorns or not. You seem unwilling to accept that some people pass enough people alone late at night in all sorts of different clothes- hoodies, tuxedos, speedos, whatever- that it no longer fazes them. That is a really weird position to take- to be so ignorant of the possibility that other people who live in other places might see the world differently in part due to their own experiences.

Your anecdote didn't make sense because you phrased it oddly, and you used the word "precocious" improperly or maybe had a weird spellcheck correction. Now it makes sense.

 
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Lol at fear merely from seeing somebody walking toward you in a hoodie.
"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." -- Jesse Jackson

 
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I was speaking with a colleague the other day who confessed that he at times felt scared/uncomfortable around young black men he passed by on the street. He found that so troubling because he was indeed black himself. He said, even he was taught to be scared of other black men, it is what he heard and saw growing up. This same man has a Masters from Harvard and works with youth. So not only is he educated, but he works directly with young people. Those are some powerful messages that he was given as a child. That gives a lot of credit to images and subtle messages we can all come in contact with growing up.
 
Lol at fear merely from seeing somebody walking toward you in a hoodie.
"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." -- Jesse Jackson
Are we just posting quotes about walking down the street that have nothing to do with the previous post now? Sweet.

"I was walking down the street with my friend and he said, 'I hear music', as if there is any other way you can take it in. You're not special, that's how I receive it too. I tried to taste it but it did not work. -- Mitch Hedberg

 
Lol at fear merely from seeing somebody walking toward you in a hoodie.
"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." -- Jesse Jackson
Are we just posting quotes about walking down the street that have nothing to do with the previous post now? Sweet.

"I was walking down the street with my friend and he said, 'I hear music', as if there is any other way you can take it in. You're not special, that's how I receive it too. I tried to taste it but it did not work. -- Mitch Hedberg
I got freaked out by this girl who was just walking down the street. She was singing, "Do wah diddy, diddy, dum diddy do", snapping her fingers and shuffling her feet.I mean, she looked good, she looked fine. But I nearly lost my mind.

 
Lol at fear merely from seeing somebody walking toward you in a hoodie.
"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." -- Jesse Jackson
Are we just posting quotes about walking down the street that have nothing to do with the previous post now? Sweet.

"I was walking down the street with my friend and he said, 'I hear music', as if there is any other way you can take it in. You're not special, that's how I receive it too. I tried to taste it but it did not work. -- Mitch Hedberg
I got freaked out by this girl who was just walking down the street. She was singing, "Do wah diddy, diddy, dum diddy do", snapping her fingers and shuffling her feet.I mean, she looked good, she looked fine. But I nearly lost my mind.
"There were two peanuts walking down the street. One of them was assaulted ... peanut." -- joke weaponized by the Germans in WWII.

 
IMO I think the issue is going to come down to the NBA owns the franchise, but does it own the team and its assets? A lot of people like to use McDonalds as the example. If McDonalds pulls your franchise, you can't use the license anymore, but you don't physically lose your building if you bought it (and were not leasing it from McDonalds Corp. or whatever they are called). I think that is where the rub will be.

I agree the NBA tried to look tough and take a stand basically hoping this guy would play ball and sell. Well, he is an old senile, coot who has proven in the past he loves to lawyer up and fight. This case will be tied up in court and appeals for years and years IMO.

Edit: sorry for the hijack there....back to Cuban
That's a lot of wrong to pack into seven sentences. Kind of impressive, actually.
You know I really feel bad for whatever turn of events that have happened in your life these past few months. You once were a pretty cool and smart poster on here, but your work in a lot of threads lately is just smug and condescending. I hope things get better because there is a marked change in you and not for the better. :sadbanana:
Lately?!?

Tobias has been the most smug and condescending ##### here for a while now. Show the condescension HOFer the respect he deserves.

 
Having post-ban johnjohn use the first post of his mew Mexican alias to trash me might be the greatest compliment I've ever received in the FFA.

 
I understand that the media is mostly filled with middle aged white people, but why is it that only racism from a white person is considered to be harmful? Not even fishing here, not trying to turn this into a white v black issue, since there is a lot of other colors making fun of each other as well.
Slavery + Jim Crow + Institutionalized Prejudice = White Guilt = White on Black Racism getting more coverage in the white-dominant media than any other kind of racism.

 

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