Mark Ingram vs. Trent Richardson (1 Viewer)

[shnikies]

To all those who picked Ingram, it's time to turn in your shark/hawk/hippo cards.

To all those that judge a player's career on 85 carries should rethink how they judge.

Ingram might have a decent career, but he has never been on the same talent level as Richardson.One is an elite talent, the other is an above average talent, in the NFL that makes a world of difference.It was clear when this post was made and it's even more clear now to anyone with an ounce of talent evaluation ability.

Trent Richardson hasn't played a snap in the NFL. Please stop.

 

[moderated]

To all those who picked Ingram, it's time to turn in your shark/hawk/hippo cards.

To all those that judge a player's career on 85 carries should rethink how they judge.

Ingram might have a decent career, but he has never been on the same talent level as Richardson.One is an elite talent, the other is an above average talent, in the NFL that makes a world of difference.It was clear when this post was made and it's even more clear now to anyone with an ounce of talent evaluation ability.

Trent Richardson hasn't played a snap in the NFL. Please stop.

If you need to wait until seeing players in the NFL to form an opinion on them you're gonna be way behind the curve.Some players are harder to judge then others, but the special ones stand out right away.

 

[Shawnky]

More piss in the pool.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Have always liked both backs, but Ingram is the more polished, instinctual runner. That's often the difference between boom and bust when it comes to a back's skills translating to the NFL.

I don't see quite the cutback ability, vision or balance from Richardson that you'd hope to see in a very highly-regarded prospect and I have to wonder how much of his success is due to Alabama's offensive line, which seems to be the best in college football just about every year.

Don't really have a horse in the race either way, just calling it like I see it.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Trent Richardson hasn't played a snap in the NFL.

Post of Thread!

 

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Trent Richardson hasn't played a snap in the NFL.

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Some people just don't get it. It used to be frustrating, but as time passes it has just gotten sad.I give up.

 

[shnikies]

Trent Richardson hasn't played a snap in the NFL.

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Some people just don't get it. It used to be frustrating, but as time passes it has just gotten sad.I give up.

Don't give up. In a year and a half you'll have a pretty good idea of who's the better NFL back.

 

[moderated]

Trent Richardson hasn't played a snap in the NFL.

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Some people just don't get it. It used to be frustrating, but as time passes it has just gotten sad.I give up.

Don't give up. In a year and a half you'll have a pretty good idea of who's the better NFL back.

That's the sad thing, I and most others already knew more then a year ago who was better, while some lost souls won't know for another year and a half.

 

[eakfootball]

Richardson is as good a prospect as Adrian Peterson was. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out as good a player. In Richardson I see a physical freak who can pick the right hole, or cutback, and get all the yards after contact that he can. Everyone knows Ingram will have a solid NFL career and maybe make a pro bowl or two. Richardon does have a bit of bust potential, but if he hits (which I fully expect) he will be a Peterson type back of the decade.

 

[shnikies]

Trent Richardson hasn't played a snap in the NFL.

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Some people just don't get it. It used to be frustrating, but as time passes it has just gotten sad.I give up.

Don't give up. In a year and a half you'll have a pretty good idea of who's the better NFL back.

That's the sad thing, I and most others already knew more then a year ago who was better, while some lost souls won't know for another year and a half.

You think he will be better, you don't know he will be better. I hope you know the difference between the two.

 

[Concept Coop]

Trent Richardson hasn't played a snap in the NFL.

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Some people just don't get it. It used to be frustrating, but as time passes it has just gotten sad.I give up.

Don't give up. In a year and a half you'll have a pretty good idea of who's the better NFL back.

That's the sad thing, I and most others already knew more then a year ago who was better, while some lost souls won't know for another year and a half.

Lets see what happens when he is not MUCH bigger, stronger, and faster than everyone he plays against.There are holes in Richardson's game and he is NOT Adrian Peterson. Watch his highlights - he is not pushing people off of him like that, regularly, at an NFL level. I would not be surprised to see him have patience issues at the next level.The hyperbole is commical.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Lets see what happens when he is not MUCH bigger, stronger, and faster than everyone he plays against.There are holes in Richardson's game and he is NOT Adrian Peterson. Watch his highlights - he is not pushing people off of him like that, regularly, at an NFL level. I would not be surprised to see him have patience issues at the next level.The hyperbole is commical.

Pretty much my exact opinion although you said it much better.

 

[EBF]

Have always liked both backs, but Ingram is the more polished, instinctual runner. That's often the difference between boom and bust when it comes to a back's skills translating to the NFL.I don't see quite the cutback ability, vision or balance from Richardson that you'd hope to see in a very highly-regarded prospect and I have to wonder how much of his success is due to Alabama's offensive line, which seems to be the best in college football just about every year.Don't really have a horse in the race either way, just calling it like I see it.

Richardson has every quality that I look for in a RB prospect. Purely as a physical specimen, he is in a very elite class with the likes of Ricky Williams, Jonathan Stewart, and Adrian Peterson. He's like the 99 overall RB you'd make for your team on Madden. Short. Stocky. Home run speed. Strong as an ox. Can cut on a dime. I don't think anyone can question his balance. That is one of his strong points. Because of his low center of gravity, his strength, and his wide base, he is incredibly difficult to knock off his feet. We've been seeing this since his freshman year:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhB6wRYZNWAI liked Ingram quite a bit. He's a solid first round back who should have multiple 1000+ rushing yard seasons. Having said that, I'm a lot higher on Richardson. He's the kind of back who comes around 1-2 times per decade.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Having said that, I'm a lot higher on Richardson. He's the kind of back who comes around 1-2 times per decade.

We'll see. Personally I think he is a little bit raw. Not that he won't eventually be a stud, I just don't think it will happen right off the bat.

 

[Multiple Scores]

We'll see. Personally I think he is a little bit raw. Not that he won't eventually be a stud, I just don't think it will happen right off the bat.

Have always liked both backs, but Ingram is the more polished, instinctual runner. That's often the difference between boom and bust when it comes to a back's skills translating to the NFL.

I don't see quite the cutback ability, vision or balance from Richardson that you'd hope to see in a very highly-regarded prospect and I have to wonder how much of his success is due to Alabama's offensive line, which seems to be the best in college football just about every year.

Don't really have a horse in the race either way, just calling it like I see it.

I have never watched any Alabama games and have been defending Mark Ingram in every thread he is mentioned because I wasted a real high rookie pick on him.

 

[Concept Coop]

We'll see. Personally I think he is a little bit raw. Not that he won't eventually be a stud, I just don't think it will happen right off the bat.

Have always liked both backs, but Ingram is the more polished, instinctual runner. That's often the difference between boom and bust when it comes to a back's skills translating to the NFL.

I don't see quite the cutback ability, vision or balance from Richardson that you'd hope to see in a very highly-regarded prospect and I have to wonder how much of his success is due to Alabama's offensive line, which seems to be the best in college football just about every year.

Don't really have a horse in the race either way, just calling it like I see it.

I have never watched any Alabama games and have been defending Mark Ingram in every thread he is mentioned because I wasted a real high rookie pick on him.

Bush-league

 

[Clifford]

My opinion:Both are going to be very high picks. You know exactly what you are getting with Ingram....a very instinctual runner with an overall terrific skill-set. He has a lower ceiling, but higher floor than Richardson. I have no doubt he'll be a productive NFL starting RB.With Richardson it's more about getting a freak of nature with a limitless upside. Right now he doesn't have the same level of vision or shiftiness that Ingram has, but there will be many GM's that think with maturation this can be taught. His power, size and speed combo combined with above average receiving skills is something that doesn't come around often. (note: his speed isn't off the charts, but paired with his strength/size is more than adequate). GM's always get enamored with measureables and "upside" and with that feel that Richardson would be the first RB chosen in the draft between the two.

excellent post... Richardson has the gift, But Ingram is by far the better runningback of the two right now. Ingram has better vision and knows how to set up and read his blockers. Vision is just one of those things that I dont think you can teach a player. For that reason, you HAVE TO rank Ingram ahead of TRich.

I don't agree with this.

Mm hmmWay too early to draw any conclusion about Ingram though. Give him 22cpg and he kills it.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I have never watched any Alabama games and have been defending Mark Ingram in every thread he is mentioned because I wasted a real high rookie pick on him.

XI am an LSU fan and my best friend is a Bama fan. He comes over to my house to watch games because I have the SEC Network and he doesn't. So I've likely seen more of both backs than you have.

I only have Ingram in one league, and only then because somebody offered me an unbelievable trade for him. Ingram cost me the equivalent of an 11th-round draft pick. I'm not highly invested in him.

Now, get off me, troll.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Bush-league

The worst kind of forum garbage. He needs a good banning.