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Anyone thinking the Saint's are dumb enough to hang their RB hopes on an old battered ADP.. (even if it's ADP.) are nuts.
ADP isn't sitting much if he's anything close to being ADP. Ingram fans need to realize that.
Well sure, but I dont think he is. Neither does any NFL team or he would have been paid more.
Also very cheap to keep him because if they moved him cap hit would be around $4m and if they keep him they pay him around $11M over 2 seasons. So looking at net cap space it cost about $7M to keep him next two seasons which is close to what they are paying AP and I don't think they have a problem paying him that.
I will be trying to get him, especially the way people are viewing this situation. Might be able to get him for a 3rd
Someone already offered Peterson today for Josh Doctson and I turned it down I wouldn't want Ingram or Peterson in a dynasty league.
HAS to be. Looks like they're moving on from him. Have AP as your early down back and Kamara in on passing downs (once he learns pass protection). That's a fun/solid/safe/massive ceiling RBBC.
These idiots added an old man at RB, another RB, wanted Mahomes and Foster and got neither.
Must be doing something right, Saints were top 2 in total yards and points last year. From a fantasy perspective, they were also 2nd in the NFL in points from the RB position.
really? all 4 of those guys sounds nuts! I realize he'll use them in different spots, and you can't totally rely on AP, but it seems like 4 is overkill even for Payton. AP/Kamara/Cadet just seems like the perfect trio and perfect variety. If AP fails, and Kamara doesn't turn out to be good, they can go for RB next year.
That's a simple and lazy explanation to fit a preconceived narrative. This list, however, shows a different story.
To a degree, maybe. But the Saints got a lot of their RB points through the air. Ingram and Cadet caught a decent amount of balls, and a lot of this was happening when they were behind. And yes, playing from behind you're airing it out a lot, and that gives your RB more goalline opportunities. It's not the be all end all and obviously The Saints have one of the better offenses in the league, but with an improved D, this likely drops. No way they're a top 2 offense this year.
Cadet won't be in the mix. He had a chance to seize the "Spoles role" last year and he didn't. With Cooks out, the third target for Brees is kind of unknown. Cadet and Fleener underperformed last year and I don't think they are stepping into that role. I think Kamara is the guy and will be the Saints most valuable fantasy RB with a floor of 60 receptions.
As someone who recently gave a couple 2nd round picks for Ingram, I hope so.
Im not sure there is really a connection between a RB production and a bad defense. Of the 10 defenses that gave up the most points last year were:
Teams generally don't play for next year, especially ones with aging QBs and coaches that need to win. If AP fails and Kamara isn't good (or doesn't learn how to pass protect), they are sunk this year without Ingram (I don't think they're going very far with him, but teams always think they can win).
I'd love nothing more than for Ingram to be gone, and I hope he complains his way out of town, but I really don't think their plan is to deal him right now. They always utilize 3-4 RBs in their system, and with the unknowns around AP and Kamara and the limitations of Cadet I think he has exactly what he wants now.
Ingram was dumb to sign a 4 year contract in 2015 knowing the way Payton is. I believe he could have got just as good or better contract elsewhere at that time.
That would make me very happy. Crazy unlikely, unless Eagles can sweeten the pot a lot more.
