Mark Ingram (2 Viewers)

[valhallan]

Anyone that thinks the Ingram story is based solely on the week 1 and 2 performances hasn't been paying attention. He started running like a man late last year and in the playoffs.

 

[shader]

Anyone that thinks the Ingram story is based solely on the week 1 and 2 performances hasn't been paying attention. He started running like a man late last year and in the playoffs.

and the preseason. He's been running possessed for quite some time now.

 

[thehornet]

Anybody worried that Robinson carved out a larger role with his performance while Ingram was out? It's tough to be confident starting any of these guys. Ingram, Robinson, Thomas, Cadet...

12-15 carries for Ingram and goal line work. minimal to no catches. simple as that.

Not guaranteed. Robinson did vulture a 2-yd TD in 2nd quarter of Game 1.

it was the flow of the game. I watched it. Robinson won't typically get that work. It's like any others situation on any other team. Sometimes the primary GL back doesn't get the GL carry. It doesn't mean Ingram isn't the GL back and that he won't get the majority. He will.

Seems like NO likes to leave in whoever they have in the game at the time for the most part. I wouldn't consider Ingram the "goal line" RB, don't think they have one.

No, it isn't that way. Ingram is typically in on goal line duties. I don't really know what else to tell you. I don't like saying this but it reads like you own Khiry.

 

[humpback]

Anybody worried that Robinson carved out a larger role with his performance while Ingram was out? It's tough to be confident starting any of these guys. Ingram, Robinson, Thomas, Cadet...

12-15 carries for Ingram and goal line work. minimal to no catches. simple as that.

Not guaranteed. Robinson did vulture a 2-yd TD in 2nd quarter of Game 1.

it was the flow of the game. I watched it. Robinson won't typically get that work. It's like any others situation on any other team. Sometimes the primary GL back doesn't get the GL carry. It doesn't mean Ingram isn't the GL back and that he won't get the majority. He will.

Seems like NO likes to leave in whoever they have in the game at the time for the most part. I wouldn't consider Ingram the "goal line" RB, don't think they have one.

No, it isn't that way. Ingram is typically in on goal line duties. I don't really know what else to tell you. I don't like saying this but it reads like you own Khiry.

Lol, I own Ingram. I just prefer to deal with what actually happens, not what I hope happens.

 

[Leonidas]

Anybody worried that Robinson carved out a larger role with his performance while Ingram was out? It's tough to be confident starting any of these guys. Ingram, Robinson, Thomas, Cadet...

12-15 carries for Ingram and goal line work. minimal to no catches. simple as that.

Ingram had 13 and 11 carries respectively in the two games everyone is drooling over. The first of which came against an Atlanta defense that has proven to be a sieve against the run.

All Ingram owners/fanboys know that Ingram doesn't get the ball enough. This isn't being argued. I also don't think anyone in this thread is super confident about his opportunities in New Orleans.

But he still looked amazing in those first two games, which is all any Ingram fans are saying.

And the pre season.

I started him week 1 (and 2) in two leagues...it's not like he just came out of freaking nowhere in week 1.

 

[thehornet]

Anybody worried that Robinson carved out a larger role with his performance while Ingram was out? It's tough to be confident starting any of these guys. Ingram, Robinson, Thomas, Cadet...

12-15 carries for Ingram and goal line work. minimal to no catches. simple as that.

Not guaranteed. Robinson did vulture a 2-yd TD in 2nd quarter of Game 1.

it was the flow of the game. I watched it. Robinson won't typically get that work. It's like any others situation on any other team. Sometimes the primary GL back doesn't get the GL carry. It doesn't mean Ingram isn't the GL back and that he won't get the majority. He will.

Seems like NO likes to leave in whoever they have in the game at the time for the most part. I wouldn't consider Ingram the "goal line" RB, don't think they have one.

No, it isn't that way. Ingram is typically in on goal line duties. I don't really know what else to tell you. I don't like saying this but it reads like you own Khiry.

Lol, I own Ingram. I just prefer to deal with what actually happens, not what I hope happens.

yeah and Ingram gets goal line. How do you not recognize this. I'm doen.

 

[Chaka]

Anybody worried that Robinson carved out a larger role with his performance while Ingram was out? It's tough to be confident starting any of these guys. Ingram, Robinson, Thomas, Cadet...

12-15 carries for Ingram and goal line work. minimal to no catches. simple as that.

Not guaranteed. Robinson did vulture a 2-yd TD in 2nd quarter of Game 1.

it was the flow of the game. I watched it. Robinson won't typically get that work. It's like any others situation on any other team. Sometimes the primary GL back doesn't get the GL carry. It doesn't mean Ingram isn't the GL back and that he won't get the majority. He will.

Seems like NO likes to leave in whoever they have in the game at the time for the most part. I wouldn't consider Ingram the "goal line" RB, don't think they have one.

No, it isn't that way. Ingram is typically in on goal line duties. I don't really know what else to tell you. I don't like saying this but it reads like you own Khiry.

Lol, I own Ingram. I just prefer to deal with what actually happens, not what I hope happens.

yeah and Ingram gets goal line. How do you not recognize this. I'm doen.

Ingram got 4 & 3 red zone touches in weeks 1 & 2 (4 total inside the 5).

Robinson has 2 & 1 (2 total inside the 5). It's a very limited sample set but it looks like Ingram was the preferred choice inside the red zone and inside the 5 when both were in the lineup.

 

[cstu]

yeah and Ingram gets goal line. How do you not recognize this. I'm doen.

Ingram had 4 carries to Robinson's 2 carries inside the 5 the first two weeks.

 

[humpback]

Anybody worried that Robinson carved out a larger role with his performance while Ingram was out? It's tough to be confident starting any of these guys. Ingram, Robinson, Thomas, Cadet...

12-15 carries for Ingram and goal line work. minimal to no catches. simple as that.

Not guaranteed. Robinson did vulture a 2-yd TD in 2nd quarter of Game 1.

it was the flow of the game. I watched it. Robinson won't typically get that work. It's like any others situation on any other team. Sometimes the primary GL back doesn't get the GL carry. It doesn't mean Ingram isn't the GL back and that he won't get the majority. He will.

Seems like NO likes to leave in whoever they have in the game at the time for the most part. I wouldn't consider Ingram the "goal line" RB, don't think they have one.

No, it isn't that way. Ingram is typically in on goal line duties. I don't really know what else to tell you. I don't like saying this but it reads like you own Khiry.

Lol, I own Ingram. I just prefer to deal with what actually happens, not what I hope happens.

yeah and Ingram gets goal line. How do you not recognize this. I'm doen.

Week 1, Ingram had 2 goal line carries, Robinson had 2, and Thomas had 1. Ingram's 2nd carry came after Thomas and Robinson each got one in that series, so he was third in line that time and if either of them punch it in he doesn't get his 2nd carry. Week 2, Ingram had the only two of the game (back to back when he was already in the game).

 

[Chaka]

Anybody worried that Robinson carved out a larger role with his performance while Ingram was out? It's tough to be confident starting any of these guys. Ingram, Robinson, Thomas, Cadet...

12-15 carries for Ingram and goal line work. minimal to no catches. simple as that.

Not guaranteed. Robinson did vulture a 2-yd TD in 2nd quarter of Game 1.

it was the flow of the game. I watched it. Robinson won't typically get that work. It's like any others situation on any other team. Sometimes the primary GL back doesn't get the GL carry. It doesn't mean Ingram isn't the GL back and that he won't get the majority. He will.

Seems like NO likes to leave in whoever they have in the game at the time for the most part. I wouldn't consider Ingram the "goal line" RB, don't think they have one.

No, it isn't that way. Ingram is typically in on goal line duties. I don't really know what else to tell you. I don't like saying this but it reads like you own Khiry.

Lol, I own Ingram. I just prefer to deal with what actually happens, not what I hope happens.

yeah and Ingram gets goal line. How do you not recognize this. I'm doen.

Week 1, Ingram had 2 goal line carries, Robinson had 2, and Thomas had 1. Ingram's 2nd carry came after Thomas and Robinson each got one in that series, so he was third in line that time and if either of them punch it in he doesn't get his 2nd carry. Week 2, Ingram had the only two of the game (back to back when he was already in the game).

Week 1 Ingram had 4 redzone carries to Robinson's 2 and week 2 Ingram had 3 redzone carries to Robinson's 1.

You can play the "If Ingram scores from X then Robinson doesn't get Y" game all day. But we can only speak as to what actually happened.

Ultimately the data is too limited to draw broad conclusions.

 

[humpback]

Week 1, Ingram had 2 goal line carries, Robinson had 2, and Thomas had 1. Ingram's 2nd carry came after Thomas and Robinson each got one in that series, so he was third in line that time and if either of them punch it in he doesn't get his 2nd carry. Week 2, Ingram had the only two of the game (back to back when he was already in the game).

Week 1 Ingram had 4 redzone carries to Robinson's 2 and week 2 Ingram had 3 redzone carries to Robinson's 1.

You can play the "If Ingram scores from X then Robinson doesn't get Y" game all day. But we can only speak as to what actually happened.

Ultimately the data is too limited to draw broad conclusions.

Red zone is very different from goal line, and the order of the carries is what actually happened. Do you think if a team has a designated goal line back they generally give 2 other RBs chances at the TD before them?

Agreed about not drawing conclusions- he's the one saying how obvious it is that Ingram is the goal line RB.

 

[Grahamburn]

Why anyone would try to anticipate what Sean Payton will do with his RBs. By the time you think you know you've got it figured, you'll be wrong.

 

[L_O_D]

This vaunted run defense for Detroit...take a look at the opponents...not exactly a murderer's row:

Giants Week 1- the exception

Panthers - historically mediocre run game; typical J-Stew and D-Will injuries

Packers - Lacy slow start and ineffectiveness

Jets - enough said

Bills - much respect, but not as dynamic as prior years

Vikings - meh

 

[Jimbo Slice]

I'm starting mark Ingram over ________...

 

[unckeyherb]

With Foster, Lacy, Brown and Andre going, I am considering starting Ingram over Beckham, Quick and Holmes as my flex.

 

[cvnpoka]

i cant bring myself to start him over gore in one league and jstewart in another. proly be wrong again.

 

[shadyridr]

Over crowell

 

[jurb26]

Starting Ingram over CJ0K and CPatt.

 

[Insein]

Not now, but soon.

 

[Chaka]

I'm starting mark Ingram over ________...

Chris Ivory

So there's that.

 

[Eagle Eye]

Over Asiata, Starks, and Hill...

 

[RBM]

I'm starting mark Ingram over ________...

Richardson

Storm

Hill

 

[Eagle Eye]

I was starting Richardson over Ingram but now have to start both thanks to Percy.

 

[IgglesFan]

Rolling with him today over FA options such as Pierce, MJD, Cunningham, A. Smith & Starks.

So yah, basically I have no choice.

 

[groin pains]

Debating going with him over McKinnon.

 

[Otis]

Benching him for TRich, so I fully expect he'll go bananas.

 

[shadyridr]

I love how everyone thinks they know how the touches will be split out

like i said

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I love how everyone thinks they know how the touches will be split out

like i said

well they DID say they would ease him back in haha

 

[SproutDaddy]

Pierre is out. They should feed him the ball. Unfortunately he keeps getting hit in the backfield.

 

[shadyridr]

Cadet time

 

[TheFanatic]

I had planned on starting the guy and decided to go with Watkins instead as my Flex

 

[Chaka]

The yardage totals are hugely disappointing but 13 opportunities to Robinson's 3 is very encouraging.

I don't think Payton is capable of giving one back 20 touches per game, he consistently outhinks himself in that regard, but 14 touches should typically produce some nice results for Ingram owners.

 

[thecardiackid]

The yardage totals are hugely disappointing but 13 opportunities to Robinson's 3 is very encouraging.

I don't think Payton is capable of giving one back 20 touches per game, he consistently outhinks himself in that regard, but 14 touches should typically produce some nice results for Ingram owners.

didn't see the game, but did he really only manage 29 yards on 13 total touches?? ooofff. I know the DET D is stout vs. the run, but that's not good.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

The yardage totals are hugely disappointing but 13 opportunities to Robinson's 3 is very encouraging.

I don't think Payton is capable of giving one back 20 touches per game, he consistently outhinks himself in that regard, but 14 touches should typically produce some nice results for Ingram owners.

didn't see the game, but did he really only manage 29 yards on 13 total touches?? ooofff. I know the DET D is stout vs. the run, but that's not good.

thats your real answer

 

[Air Stich]

It was easy to bench Ingram in his first week back against Detroit. I wish he had shown a little more production so I could feel good about getting him in next week vs GB.

 

[rockaction]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Det D has shut down everybody. Next week vs. GB in prime time he will be back.

 

[Gopher State]

First week back, against a good D, and he gets 13 touches, next two games at home against GB and at Panthers looking very good. I think the key is he has shown he is the lead back again on the ground name. were not talking someone you drafted in the first 6 rounds, I got him off the WW and think it was a great move.

 

[humpback]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

 

[shadyridr]

U guys think hes an rb2 or flex ROS?

 

[rockaction]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

Yes, you're looking right up at his stats from this week. For sure.

 

[humpback]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

Yes, you're looking right up at his stats from this week. For sure.

Well, your "stats" from this week are wrong to begin with, but your statement "sounds like Ingram" is absurd.

 

[rockaction]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

Yes, you're looking right up at his stats from this week. For sure.

Well, your "stats" from this week are wrong to begin with, but your statement "sounds like Ingram" is absurd.

OH! OH! WAIT! 12 for 29! 12/29 = 2.4 YPT. 2.4!!!!

Sounds like Ingram.

 

[JFS171]

U guys think hes an rb2 or flex ROS?

If Pierre's shoulder keeps him out an extended period of time, I could see Ingram consistently getting 15+ touches per week. Cadet will obviously be more involved in the passing game, but they typically don't hand him the ball.

Flex for me though until there's much more clarity in that backfield. Ingram getting 13 touches his first week back is a good sign (I'm not terribly worried about the numbers as I knew that matchup was awful). Wouldn't want to roll him out as an RB2 until that workload stabilizes for a couple weeks.

That said, he's still showing the hard running from the past year+ on the calendar, and I think it's the same thing that's going to get him paid in FA.

 

[rockaction]

U guys think hes an rb2 or flex ROS?

If Pierre's shoulder keeps him out an extended period of time, I could see Ingram consistently getting 15+ touches per week. Cadet will obviously be more involved in the passing game, but they typically don't hand him the ball.

Flex for me though until there's much more clarity in that backfield. Ingram getting 13 touches his first week back is a good sign (I'm not terribly worried about the numbers as I knew that matchup was awful). Wouldn't want to roll him out as an RB2 until that workload stabilizes for a couple weeks.

That said, he's still showing the hard running from the past year+ on the calendar, and I think it's the same thing that's going to get him paid in FA.

Why do we think that a guy that just rushed for 16 yards on 10 carries beats out a guy that went 3-26? Has Ingram been anointed?

 

[humpback]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

Yes, you're looking right up at his stats from this week. For sure.

Well, your "stats" from this week are wrong to begin with, but your statement "sounds like Ingram" is absurd.

OH! OH! WAIT! 12 for 29! 12/29 = 2.4 YPT. 2.4!!!!

Sounds like Ingram.

At least you got the numbers right this time. Troll on.

 

[rockaction]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

Yes, you're looking right up at his stats from this week. For sure.

Well, your "stats" from this week are wrong to begin with, but your statement "sounds like Ingram" is absurd.

OH! OH! WAIT! 12 for 29! 12/29 = 2.4 YPT. 2.4!!!!

Sounds like Ingram.

At least you got the numbers right this time. Troll on.

Who's trolling here? What has Ingram ever, ever done other than in garbage time? Please. I'll hang up and listen...

eta* Oh, you love Lacy, too. Here, here you go. https://twitter.com/finebaum

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

Yes, you're looking right up at his stats from this week. For sure.

Well, your "stats" from this week are wrong to begin with, but your statement "sounds like Ingram" is absurd.

OH! OH! WAIT! 12 for 29! 12/29 = 2.4 YPT. 2.4!!!!

Sounds like Ingram.

At least you got the numbers right this time. Troll on.

Who's trolling here? What has Ingram ever, ever done other than in garbage time? Please. I'll hang up and listen...

eta* Oh, you love Lacy, too. Here, here you go. https://twitter.com/finebaum

I normally keep my mouth shut but you look pretty lame. Now puff away with you.

 

[humpback]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

Yes, you're looking right up at his stats from this week. For sure.

Well, your "stats" from this week are wrong to begin with, but your statement "sounds like Ingram" is absurd.

OH! OH! WAIT! 12 for 29! 12/29 = 2.4 YPT. 2.4!!!!

Sounds like Ingram.

At least you got the numbers right this time. Troll on.

Who's trolling here? What has Ingram ever, ever done other than in garbage time? Please. I'll hang up and listen...

eta* Oh, you love Lacy, too. Here, here you go. https://twitter.com/finebaum

 

[rockaction]

13/29 = 2.23 yards per touch? Sounds like Ingram.

Yes, you're looking right up at his stats from this week. For sure.

Well, your "stats" from this week are wrong to begin with, but your statement "sounds like Ingram" is absurd.

OH! OH! WAIT! 12 for 29! 12/29 = 2.4 YPT. 2.4!!!!

Sounds like Ingram.

At least you got the numbers right this time. Troll on.

Who's trolling here? What has Ingram ever, ever done other than in garbage time? Please. I'll hang up and listen...

eta* Oh, you love Lacy, too. Here, here you go. https://twitter.com/finebaum

I normally keep my mouth shut but you look pretty lame. Now puff away with you.

Oh, man. I love this. Offering my opinion on a guy that was drafted in the first round to an NFL team and just can't seem to crack that RB32 position.

eta* RB61 last year. RB 32 in 2012, by standard scoring. Nice work.