Mark Ingram (2 Viewers)

[Chaka]

RA needs to chill out a bit and bellmar's question is better suited to the AC forum.

 

[bellmar]

Thanks Chaka, let me rephrase the question. Does anybody know just how bad is Thomas's injury ? Do you think he will play by week 10. Is that bettor ?

 

[Leonidas]

anybody move him after his big game? trying to see what he could fetch, in a standard league.

I just put him on the block along with Lacy and Bradshaw. I also have Murray so I'm open to trading one of the other guys because I need WR help...

Got offered DeAndre Hopkins for him, turned it down...

NO has been having trouble throwing the ball down the field. Last week they finally had some success with Cooks. If Payton recognizes that Otis could be on to something. The problem is Payton has shown he will completely abandon the run even if Ingram is showing he can be successful. Look at last year for instance. Week 10 Ingram puts up 10-145-1. What does Payton do after that? Gives Ingram the ball 40 times..................the rest of the regular season (6 games). He did use him a little more in the playoffs and had success. The usage is anything but consistent though.

This is what really gives me pause before starting him this week...

Unless you are able to roll out Foster, Murray and Charles as your starters then as long as PT and Robinson are out I don't see how you cannot start him. He's #4 in my league in PPG.

Agreed.

It would take some serious alternatives to consider sitting him right now

 

[John 14:6]

anybody move him after his big game? trying to see what he could fetch, in a standard league.

I just put him on the block along with Lacy and Bradshaw. I also have Murray so I'm open to trading one of the other guys because I need WR help...

Got offered DeAndre Hopkins for him, turned it down...

NO has been having trouble throwing the ball down the field. Last week they finally had some success with Cooks. If Payton recognizes that Otis could be on to something. The problem is Payton has shown he will completely abandon the run even if Ingram is showing he can be successful. Look at last year for instance. Week 10 Ingram puts up 10-145-1. What does Payton do after that? Gives Ingram the ball 40 times..................the rest of the regular season (6 games). He did use him a little more in the playoffs and had success. The usage is anything but consistent though.

This is what really gives me pause before starting him this week...

Unless you are able to roll out Foster, Murray and Charles as your starters then as long as PT and Robinson are out I don't see how you cannot start him. He's #4 in my league in PPG.

Agreed.

It would take some serious alternatives to consider sitting him right now

Murray and Bradshaw?

 

[shadyridr]

So does anyone have an idea if Thomas will be back by week 10 ? He is on waivers in a league that due to bye's I need a RB for week 10 . Only guy I have dropable is Cunningham.

Okay, 199 posts from 14 April 03. Here we go with the alias ####.

What the **** are you talking about ?

If you want to type a curse word, it comes up ####. Not ****.

Not ***** from 14 April 03, which is when the aliases were magically taken because of a board change-over, and you know the deal. Don't insult me nor the mods nor the noobs who took the time to read or understand the FAQ. Thanks. And if you didn't take the time to read the FAQ or lurk, you should.

Love,

RA

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dude whats up with you lately? I dont remember you so rude before.

 

[fred_1_15301]

So does anyone have an idea if Thomas will be back by week 10 ? He is on waivers in a league that due to bye's I need a RB for week 10 . Only guy I have dropable is Cunningham.

Okay, 199 posts from 14 April 03. Here we go with the alias ####.

What the **** are you talking about ?

If you want to type a curse word, it comes up ####. Not ****.

Not ***** from 14 April 03, which is when the aliases were magically taken because of a board change-over, and you know the deal. Don't insult me nor the mods nor the noobs who took the time to read or understand the FAQ. Thanks. And if you didn't take the time to read the FAQ or lurk, you should.

Love,

RA

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dude whats up with you lately? I dont remember you so rude before.

Agreed. He's turned into a snarky #######

 

[Buffaloes]

So does anyone have an idea if Thomas will be back by week 10 ? He is on waivers in a league that due to bye's I need a RB for week 10 . Only guy I have dropable is Cunningham.

why is this in bold and 20 point font?

 

[*****]

So does anyone have an idea if Thomas will be back by week 10 ? He is on waivers in a league that due to bye's I need a RB for week 10 . Only guy I have dropable is Cunningham.

Okay, 199 posts from 14 April 03. Here we go with the alias ####.

What the **** are you talking about ?

If you want to type a curse word, it comes up ####. Not ****.

Not ***** from 14 April 03, which is when the aliases were magically taken because of a board change-over, and you know the deal. Don't insult me nor the mods nor the noobs who took the time to read or understand the FAQ. Thanks. And if you didn't take the time to read the FAQ or lurk, you should.

Love,

RA

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dude whats up with you lately? I dont remember you so rude before.

Agreed. He's turned into a snarky #######

Yep, he leveled the same sort of abuse on me a few weeks ago. Apparently he doesn't like the fact that some of us have been reading this board for over ten years but only choose to post every once in a while. Just because one makes 5500+ posts doesn't mean they are worthwhile. He also did not like my symbol key styled user name (five star). As if it matters. It's not like the name c*ckaction is any less absurdly anonymous than my own user name or anyone else's.

 

[rockaction]

So does anyone have an idea if Thomas will be back by week 10 ? He is on waivers in a league that due to bye's I need a RB for week 10 . Only guy I have dropable is Cunningham.

Okay, 199 posts from 14 April 03. Here we go with the alias ####.

What the **** are you talking about ?

If you want to type a curse word, it comes up ####. Not ****.

Not ***** from 14 April 03, which is when the aliases were magically taken because of a board change-over, and you know the deal. Don't insult me nor the mods nor the noobs who took the time to read or understand the FAQ. Thanks. And if you didn't take the time to read the FAQ or lurk, you should.

Love,

RA

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dude whats up with you lately? I dont remember you so rude before.

Hey, shadyridr. I am a little ruder, I guess. It looks bad on my end. But I'm just not sure that guys that joined in 14 April 03 and have very few posts aren't trolling nor aliases. That's really my take. I think there's a lot of trolling going on, and it sort of takes a bit of long-time reading? But I could be wrong. And so I'll just take everything at face value from now on. I'm not a board cop, and I shouldn't anoint myself such. I just see people getting away with a lot of stuff here. Maybe I need a break for a bit.

My performance in this thread isn't so good. Admittedly. I said I wouldn't ruin peoples' good time, and I won't. I'll bow out.

Thanks for checking my head.

 

[Leonidas]

Agreed.

It would take some serious alternatives to consider sitting him right now

Murray and Bradshaw?

I'd start Ingram over Bradshaw (fortunately the only league where I have good enough RB's to make it a decision I can start 3 with the flex so it's Hillman, Bradshaw, Ingram starting with Morris/Martin on the bench.

Can only start 2 RB's? It's frustrating when you have 3 legit RB's and can only start 2.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

So does anyone have an idea if Thomas will be back by week 10 ? He is on waivers in a league that due to bye's I need a RB for week 10 . Only guy I have dropable is Cunningham.

Okay, 199 posts from 14 April 03. Here we go with the alias ####.

What the **** are you talking about ?

If you want to type a curse word, it comes up ####. Not ****.

Not ***** from 14 April 03, which is when the aliases were magically taken because of a board change-over, and you know the deal. Don't insult me nor the mods nor the noobs who took the time to read or understand the FAQ. Thanks. And if you didn't take the time to read the FAQ or lurk, you should.

Love,

RA

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dude whats up with you lately? I dont remember you so rude before.

Hey, shadyridr. I am a little ruder, I guess. It looks bad on my end. But I'm just not sure that guys that joined in 14 April 03 and have very few posts aren't trolling nor aliases. That's really my take. I think there's a lot of trolling going on, and it sort of takes a bit of long-time reading? But I could be wrong. And so I'll just take everything at face value from now on. I'm not a board cop, and I shouldn't anoint myself such. I just see people getting away with a lot of stuff here. Maybe I need a break for a bit.

My performance in this thread isn't so good. Admittedly. I said I wouldn't ruin peoples' good time, and I won't. I'll bow out.

Thanks for checking my head.

i for one can respect this post ...thats called manning up...nice job RA

 

[Phenomena]

Tonight could be a let-down. CAR has a bad run defense, but as rotoworld noted, Ingram touched the ball 25 times on Sunday. There are always hangovers in Thursday night games. I hope not, as I own him, but expectations should be held in check. I expect sub 15-20 touches and a much more reasonable 80-100 yards with a chance at a score.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

With the other 2 backs out, I don't see them with much of a choice in the running game other than to feed the beast. And as far as usage, Ingram is young and hasn't been used heavily (documented heavily in this thread). Plus he missed a month with a hand. He's fresh, and he hongry.

 

[Insein]

Game is for first place. All hands on deck tonight and they can rest afterwards. If PT and Khiry were healthy, I'd say they would limit Ingram's carries. With them out, they will ride on his back.

 

[John 14:6]

Agreed.

It would take some serious alternatives to consider sitting him right now

Murray and Bradshaw?

I'd start Ingram over Bradshaw (fortunately the only league where I have good enough RB's to make it a decision I can start 3 with the flex so it's Hillman, Bradshaw, Ingram starting with Morris/Martin on the bench.

Can only start 2 RB's? It's frustrating when you have 3 legit RB's and can only start 2.

I also have Lacey. I've been trying to trade to upgrade at WR, but the latest two offers were Bradshaw for LaFell and Ingram for Hopkins. I'd rather get a top tier guy...

I'm going to stick with Bradshaw. He's been so consistent all year and has a great match up as well...

 

[IgglesFan]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

 

[Phenomena]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

 

[Two Deep]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

Although working on a short week this week, he will have a long recovery time next week. I think they almost have to ride him while he is hot. The Saints looked so much better on offense with an established running game.

 

[Chaka]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

The Giants were UP by 17 after the first half in that game. Jennings got 11 of his 15 touches in the first half while the game was relatively close. He got 4 more touches in the 3rd quarter and the Giants gave him a well deserved rest after they went up 30-14 with 4:24 left in the 3rd quarter. They let Andre Williams be the primary ball carrier the rest of the way and I am sure Jennings would have gotten more work if they needed him, but they didn't.

I do think that it is possible the Saints take a big lead on the Panthers and they decide to limit Ingram's touches in a blowout, but that could happen with any RB on any given week.

 

[Milkman]

The Saints have been struggling to throw the ball down the field. Have no idea if they are going to ride Ingram or not but if they don't feed him early look for their struggles on offense to continue.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I believe robinson missed practice the last two days as well

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

The Giants were UP by 17 after the first half in that game. Jennings got 11 of his 15 touches in the first half while the game was relatively close. He got 4 more touches in the 3rd quarter and the Giants gave him a well deserved rest after they went up 30-14 with 4:24 left in the 3rd quarter. They let Andre Williams be the primary ball carrier the rest of the way and I am sure Jennings would have gotten more work if they needed him, but they didn't.

I do think that it is possible the Saints take a big lead on the Panthers and they decide to limit Ingram's touches in a blowout, but that could happen with any RB on any given week.

Coming off the best game of his career, Mark Ingram enters Week 9 averaging a running back-leading 5.7 yards per carry. On the other side of the coin is the Panthers, a team silver plattering an NFL-worst 5.3 YPC. Sit/start rationales aren’t always straightforward. Ingram’s Week 9 RB1 candidacy is

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Without Robinson active there isn't another RB really capable of giving him a full half off.

 

[IgglesFan]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

Although working on a short week this week, he will have a long recovery time next week. I think they almost have to ride him while he is hot. The Saints looked so much better on offense with an established running game.

I agree....I just think they will try to establish the running game with two lead horses (Ingram and Robinson), and use the short pass like so many teams do in lieu of the run. No, if Robonson is indeed out, that kind of changes things....though I am going to assume he plays and gets 6-8 touches.

They are in a division where 9-7 (at best 10-6) will get you into the playoffs. They need Ingram healthy down the stretch. Giving him 50+ touches over four days ain't the way to do it.

Maybe he will get 25+ touches tonight. All I am saying is don't be surprised if he doesn't, as Payton could easily take a drive here and there an go no-huddle/all-pass, and save his RB some wear and tear.

 

[humpback]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

Although working on a short week this week, he will have a long recovery time next week. I think they almost have to ride him while he is hot. The Saints looked so much better on offense with an established running game.

I agree....I just think they will try to establish the running game with two lead horses (Ingram and Robinson), and use the short pass like so many teams do in lieu of the run.

They are in a division where 9-7 (at best 10-6) will get you into the playoffs. They need Ingram healthy down the stretch. Giving him 50+ touches over four days ain't the way to do it.

Maybe he will get 25+ touches tonight. All I am saying is don't be surprised if he doesn't, as Payton could easily take a drive here and there an go no-huddle/all-pass, and save his RB some wear and tear.

Everything I've seen points to Robinson being out.

It's also pretty clear that Payton values Brees more than all of his RBs combined, so despite my hatred of his play calling, I don't think he's going to try and "save" the RB he doesn't seem to like very much by putting his franchise QB in more jeopardy than necessary.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Mark Ingram said he feels good despite the short recovery time ahead of Thursday's game against Carolina.

We're always a little leery of players in the Thursday games, especially running backs who touched the ball 25 times the previous Sunday. But the spot is right again for Ingram as Pierre Thomas is out and Khiry Robinson is highly questionable, leaving Ingram to carry the load against a Panthers team that is giving up 5.22 YPC to opposing running backs. He's a borderline RB1 option.

Source: ESPN.com
Oct 30 - 8:57 AM

 

[Leonidas]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

The Giants were UP by 17 after the first half in that game. Jennings got 11 of his 15 touches in the first half while the game was relatively close. He got 4 more touches in the 3rd quarter and the Giants gave him a well deserved rest after they went up 30-14 with 4:24 left in the 3rd quarter. They let Andre Williams be the primary ball carrier the rest of the way and I am sure Jennings would have gotten more work if they needed him, but they didn't.

I do think that it is possible the Saints take a big lead on the Panthers and they decide to limit Ingram's touches in a blowout, but that could happen with any RB on any given week.

The Giants told us before that game that they planned to ease Jenning's load and use more Andre Williams.

We don't have that situation here. And not just because NO hasn't said anything, but because it looks like they aren't going to have a good stand-in for Ingram due to the Khiry and Pierre injuries.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I think Ingram's touches are up in the air mostly due to possible game flow and not Payton wanting to rest him on a short week. Ingram's injury history is kind of ####ty but he has very little wear on him for the season/in his career. If we see a heavy dose of Cadet it's because NO is playing catch-up and not much more. I wouldn't project 25 touches to be safe but I also don't think he'll see a mere ~12-13 like he was seeing earlier in the year. Let's say 16-18 with a good a shot as any for a TD.

 

[Chaka]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

The Giants were UP by 17 after the first half in that game. Jennings got 11 of his 15 touches in the first half while the game was relatively close. He got 4 more touches in the 3rd quarter and the Giants gave him a well deserved rest after they went up 30-14 with 4:24 left in the 3rd quarter. They let Andre Williams be the primary ball carrier the rest of the way and I am sure Jennings would have gotten more work if they needed him, but they didn't.

I do think that it is possible the Saints take a big lead on the Panthers and they decide to limit Ingram's touches in a blowout, but that could happen with any RB on any given week.

Coming off the best game of his career, Mark Ingram enters Week 9 averaging a running back-leading 5.7 yards per carry. On the other side of the coin is the Panthers, a team silver plattering an NFL-worst 5.3 YPC. Sit/start rationales aren’t always straightforward. Ingram’s Week 9 RB1 candidacy is

Whenever I see stuff like that I brace myself for the outlier so I won't be surprised when Carolina plays like the '85 Bears and Ingram runs like Tommy Vardell.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

I'm going 18 for 93 and 2 TD's

 

[Chaka]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

Although working on a short week this week, he will have a long recovery time next week. I think they almost have to ride him while he is hot. The Saints looked so much better on offense with an established running game.

I agree....I just think they will try to establish the running game with two lead horses (Ingram and Robinson), and use the short pass like so many teams do in lieu of the run. No, if Robonson is indeed out, that kind of changes things....though I am going to assume he plays and gets 6-8 touches.

They are in a division where 9-7 (at best 10-6) will get you into the playoffs. They need Ingram healthy down the stretch. Giving him 50+ touches over four days ain't the way to do it.

Maybe he will get 25+ touches tonight. All I am saying is don't be surprised if he doesn't, as Payton could easily take a drive here and there an go no-huddle/all-pass, and save his RB some wear and tear.

The Cowboys have been saying all season that they want to reduce Murray's volume but that hasn't happened. Coaches tend to forget all those statements immediately after kickoff. Only way they rest him is if they are up big or down big.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

The Giants were UP by 17 after the first half in that game. Jennings got 11 of his 15 touches in the first half while the game was relatively close. He got 4 more touches in the 3rd quarter and the Giants gave him a well deserved rest after they went up 30-14 with 4:24 left in the 3rd quarter. They let Andre Williams be the primary ball carrier the rest of the way and I am sure Jennings would have gotten more work if they needed him, but they didn't.

I do think that it is possible the Saints take a big lead on the Panthers and they decide to limit Ingram's touches in a blowout, but that could happen with any RB on any given week.

Coming off the best game of his career, Mark Ingram enters Week 9 averaging a running back-leading 5.7 yards per carry. On the other side of the coin is the Panthers, a team silver plattering an NFL-worst 5.3 YPC. Sit/start rationales aren’t always straightforward. Ingram’s Week 9 RB1 candidacy is

Whenever I see stuff like that I brace myself for the outlier so I won't be surprised when Carolina plays like the '85 Bears and Ingram runs like Tommy Vardell.

They didnt call him TOUCHDOWN tommy Vardell for nothing

 

[shader]

Arian Foster got 23 carries in week 5 and 20 carries in week 6 on Thur night.

Yeah it's a short recovery time, but I think Ingram will be fine.

 

[Faust]

Saints' Mark Ingram likely to test free agency in 2015

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Saints' Mark Ingram likely to test free agency in 2015

I'm kind of surprised that they didn't shop him prior to the trade deadline. Seems like they would want to get something for him, instead of just letting him walk at the end of the year.

 

[Chaka]

I just posted in the Fanduel thread that I think many will be let down by Ingram tonight.

He had 26 touches on Sunday, and while I get that he is 'fresh", every RB needs time to shake the effects of punishment. Jennings was "fresh" back in Week 5 when he torched the Texans on Sunday, only to log 15 carries the following Thursday. I could easily see the Saints using more Robinson/Cadet this week, as well as use the short pass in lieu of the run, in order to keep Ingram upright a factor in December.

Just be realistic with your expectations. 15-17 carries would not be shocking tonight.

I'm with you on the potential letdown (just posted a similar comment) but that particular Thursday game had more to do with the fact that WAS has been dominant in run defense and the Giants were playing from 17 behind after the first half. I think the fact Jennings even got 15 carries was surprising, regardless of his workload four days earlier.

CAR meanwhile has one of the worst run defenses and it's unlikely the game is going to be lopsided against the Saints (even though the Saints have not performed well away). I think Ingram could get up to 20 touches but there's no way he logs 25 like on Sunday.

The Giants were UP by 17 after the first half in that game. Jennings got 11 of his 15 touches in the first half while the game was relatively close. He got 4 more touches in the 3rd quarter and the Giants gave him a well deserved rest after they went up 30-14 with 4:24 left in the 3rd quarter. They let Andre Williams be the primary ball carrier the rest of the way and I am sure Jennings would have gotten more work if they needed him, but they didn't.

I do think that it is possible the Saints take a big lead on the Panthers and they decide to limit Ingram's touches in a blowout, but that could happen with any RB on any given week.

Coming off the best game of his career, Mark Ingram enters Week 9 averaging a running back-leading 5.7 yards per carry. On the other side of the coin is the Panthers, a team silver plattering an NFL-worst 5.3 YPC. Sit/start rationales aren’t always straightforward. Ingram’s Week 9 RB1 candidacy is

Whenever I see stuff like that I brace myself for the outlier so I won't be surprised when Carolina plays like the '85 Bears and Ingram runs like Tommy Vardell.

They didnt call him TOUCHDOWN tommy Vardell for nothing

Well, here's to hoping Carolina plays like the 1991 Cal Bears.

 

[LawFitz]

Saints' Mark Ingram likely to test free agency in 2015

I'm kind of surprised that they didn't shop him prior to the trade deadline. Seems like they would want to get something for him, instead of just letting him walk at the end of the year.

Why are you suprised? If they had traded him, their only healthy RB right now would be Travaris Cadet going into a matchup for first place.

 

[HittinHard]

I have Byes for my other running backs except Doug Martin who i will not be starting.

So Ingram starts for me and i can see 18 touches,95 yards and 1 TD, i can live with that

 

[SproutDaddy]

Saints' Mark Ingram likely to test free agency in 2015

I'm kind of surprised that they didn't shop him prior to the trade deadline. Seems like they would want to get something for him, instead of just letting him walk at the end of the year.

OOF!! Pay attention!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Good lord here we go again....waaaay over thinking things for the 2nd week in a row...just pug him in and let him rip

 

[John 14:6]

Good lord here we go again....waaaay over thinking things for the 2nd week in a row...just pug him in and let him rip

I'd love to, but I can see Murray and Bradshaw ripping it up this week as well. Bradhsaw because he's against the Giants and Murray because he's Murray...

 

[I Am the Stig]

Good lord here we go again....waaaay over thinking things for the 2nd week in a row...just pug him in and let him rip

I'd love to, but I can see Murray and Bradshaw ripping it up this week as well. Bradhsaw because he's against the Giants and Murray because he's Murray...

Murray is a no brainier but unless it is PPR there is no real reason not to start Ingram over Bradshaw unless you just don't like Ingram on a short week.

 

[SayWhat?]

Good lord here we go again....waaaay over thinking things for the 2nd week in a row...just pug him in and let him rip

I'd love to, but I can see Murray and Bradshaw ripping it up this week as well. Bradhsaw because he's against the Giants and Murray because he's Murray...

Murray is a no brainier but unless it is PPR there is no real reason not to start Ingram over Bradshaw unless you just don't like Ingram on a short week.

Yeah, absolutely no reason at all not to start Ingram over a thus far top 5 overall RB in Bradshaw. None whatsoever.

 

[karmarooster]

Good lord here we go again....waaaay over thinking things for the 2nd week in a row...just pug him in and let him rip

I'd love to, but I can see Murray and Bradshaw ripping it up this week as well. Bradhsaw because he's against the Giants and Murray because he's Murray...

Murray is a no brainier but unless it is PPR there is no real reason not to start Ingram over Bradshaw unless you just don't like Ingram on a short week.

Yeah, absolutely no reason at all not to start Ingram over a thus far top 5 overall RB in Bradshaw. None whatsoever.

PPG so far: Ingram 16.1, Bradshaw 15.6 (in .5 PPR). That includes Ingram's stinker against the Lions (and his broken hand game where he broke his hand in the first half before before scoring a TD in the second half).

Of course Ingram isn't top 5 RB overall due to missing games.

Seems like a toss up to me, but I could see starting either one. I'd probably favor Bradshaw due to the revenge factor and the full week... but, TRich should be back (that didn't hurt Bradshaw too much previously however).

 

[shadyridr]

Id start bradshaw over ingram without question.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Any update on K Robinson? Last check he missed Tuesday practice.

 

[John 14:6]

Id start bradshaw over ingram without question.

Yeah, it's ppr and Bradshaw is more proven so far this year...

 

[just_want_2_win]

I'm starting him so prepare for 11-44-0 2-12 sorry folks.

 

[meatwad1]

23 -156 2 tds

/5 -78 2 tds

Giddy up!!!

 

[LawFitz]

Khiry inactive.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/10/new_orleans_saints_jonathan_go_1.html

Choo muthereffin choo!