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Own both Kamara & Ingram in 1 league --- looking forward to starting them both weekly soon
(J White & L Miller other options in a standard)
(J White & L Miller other options in a standard)
Ya that's always the risk with the Edelman and Ingram picks. It always seemed like a "just hope to be 2-2" kind of thing when you drafted one, or especially numerous, of those guys.Yep. 2-2. With Josh Gordon, too. It's been a rough start, but Hyde and Barkley were great picks for volume, and Goff just carried me this week. I'm outside looking in at the playoffs, but that might change really quickly if those guys can get up to speed. Golladay has also been quite the find to help quell (though now starting to fade a bit) the absences, too.
2017 Week 11 stat line vs. Skins: 11-134-1, 3-21Been holding Ingram these 4 weeks patiently. Are we all pretty confident in starting him week 5 against Wash?
I agree with your assessment. I picked up Ingram from a nervous owner two weeks into the season with a 20% waiver bid. It's a tough league, and a tight one, and the guy couldn't go 0-3 or he's done. I also think it was an unwise decision by him, but that's not for me to really judge.Ya that's always the risk with the Edelman and Ingram picks. It always seemed like a "just hope to be 2-2" kind of thing when you drafted one, or especially numerous, of those guys.
Can’t believe he wasn’t picked up before waivers locked on Sunday.He was recently dropped in my league. Hoping he'll get passed on long enough for me grab him as the Kamara owner. Doubt I'd ever start him since CMC just had his bye (barring injury).
Yea, I agree...although I'm pretty decent at this whole thing myself and forgot to browse to the back of the list for him. I just assumed he was still rostered and missed the transaction. So I'll probably pay for this since I pick pretty late in the order.Can’t believe he wasn’t picked up before waivers locked on Sunday.
Can’t believe he’d be dropped anywhere.
Agree if you have injured guys but...do we really think Kamara and Thomas aren't the focal point of their offense? He's a RB2 all day long. Will vulture some TDs but I'm not so sure the layoff won't hurt him.With Fournette killing me, I'm rolling him out there! All aboard!
Ekeler is your #2 then? But you’re starting 1 and 3. I get it.Was just offered OBJ for my Ingram/Corey Davis.
12 team PPR league with ONLY 4 bench spots.
Would make my lineup - Goff-Melvin Gordon - OBJ-Thielen-K. Allen - Gronk - K - D
With a crap bench (Rivers, Ekeler, Shepard, empty spot for a RB)
I know this is more an AC question but we were discussing Ingram value.
Yeah, and guys like Cohen, Aaron Jones, Derrick Henry, Breida are all on waivers. I'll likely pick up Cohen since he's on bye just to have some depth outside the Chargers run game.Ekeler is your #2 then? But you’re starting 1 and 3. I get it.
I like that trade. Ingram has a brutal f’n schedule and you don’t really need him.Yeah, and guys like Cohen, Aaron Jones, Derrick Henry, Breida are all on waivers. I'll likely pick up Cohen since he's on bye just to have some depth outside the Chargers run game.
I sure hope not. This would really suck for us Kamara owners if it starts taking both these guys to equal his production in weeks 1-4. If they want Ingram to wear down the D a bit with a handful of carries then no problem. Actually my biggest fear is Ingram ends up with the majority of the GL looks. No doubt Kamara is the lead dog but there are a few ugly scenarios for Kamara owners.They might ride him to keep Kamara fresh for the playoffs.
Look at last year. These assumptions you're making are ludicrous. Plus, he's in a contract year.I like Ingram, but FBG's seems a little generous RB11 ROS in PPR. I think he'll have his smash games, but then I think he'll have a few 18-67-0 and 2-14's mixed in. They might ride him to keep Kamara fresh for the playoffs.
They both ate last year. No reason to think it won’t happen again this year. I see Kamara still getting his, Ingram is the one I see perhaps underperforming compared to last year.I sure hope not. This would really suck for us Kamara owners if it starts taking both these guys to equal his production in weeks 1-4. If they want Ingram to wear down the D a bit with a handful of carries then no problem. Actually my biggest fear is Ingram ends up with the majority of the GL looks. No doubt Kamara is the lead dog but there are a few ugly scenarios for Kamara owners.
Agreed with bold texts. Payton has mentioned in the past on wanting to preserve Kamara as much as he can to retain his explosiveness during course of season and especially in the playoffs. He'll use Ingram often in tackles as well as ball-control possession to keep his defensive team fresh throughout the season.If I were the saints I would want to use Ingram as much as I could this year. Last year of his contract and you have kamara locked up for the long haul. Obviously he isn’t the player that kamara is but he’s still a good runner.
Especially between the tackles, I would look to preserve kamara for the long run, both this year and next
Yea, Ingram sucked last year.....Agree if you have injured guys but...do we really think Kamara and Thomas aren't the focal point of their offense? He's a RB2 all day long. Will vulture some TDs but I'm not so sure the layoff won't hurt him.
If you have both, start both and enjoy.Just at some of the wishful thinking in this thread. Kamaras workload is barely going to be impacted given his dual nature threat as a receiver and RB. They certainly aren’t going to “ride Ingram” and let off the gas to preserve Kamara. Their roles will be similar to last year however I predict Kamara will benefit more due to being more involved with the offense now. Ingram will get his but I don’t think he’s anything more than a mid to high range RB2 going forward ala Marshawn.
I have both, but starting both is a problem as I also have DJ and Mixon as my RBs. For me, Ingram is more of a handcuff.If you have both, start both and enjoy.
Kamara is the top RB except maybe Gurley and Ingram will be solid RB2 with RB1 upside. That offense is scary good.
Not a redraft I presume. I play in redrafts... definitely don't have DJ and Kamara...!Truebluey said:I have both, but starting both is a problem as I also have DJ and Mixon as my RBs. For me, Ingram is more of a handcuff.
This is the problem. If you already have a better option than Ingram, any hit to Kamara's production sucks.Truebluey said:I have both, but starting both is a problem as I also have DJ and Mixon as my RBs. For me, Ingram is more of a handcuff.
You haven't been paying attention to what Ingram has been doing these past few months. Your statements are merely assumptions based on zero evidence.Bad_Mo said:Agree if you have injured guys but...do we really think Kamara and Thomas aren't the focal point of their offense? He's a RB2 all day long. Will vulture some TDs but I'm not so sure the layoff won't hurt him.
What's he been doing these last two months (besides being on the sidelines)? I'm an Ingram guy, just curious what you have seen on the social feeds!You haven't been paying attention to what Ingram has been doing these past few months. Your statements are merely assumptions based on zero evidence.
Oh you didn't see? He's got his 40 down to 3.9 and has been running through brick walls just for fun.What's he been doing these last two months (besides being on the sidelines)? I'm an Ingram guy, just curious what you have seen on the social feeds!
What did he do for the month on September? That's right...watch his teammates play while serving a suspension. Who cares what he did in pre-season. Are you suggesting that his pre-season workouts have changed? I would hope so because he'll get busted again, if not.You haven't been paying attention to what Ingram has been doing these past few months. Your statements are merely assumptions based on zero evidence.
FantasyPros has him at RB8I like Ingram, but FBG's seems a little generous RB11 ROS in PPR. I think he'll have his smash games, but then I think he'll have a few 18-67-0 and 2-14's mixed in. They might ride him to keep Kamara fresh for the playoffs.
Yes, IIRC. What's the implication. Running harder, doing more?Contract year right?
I would think he will bust his ### on all touches. Of course I think he already does anyway. Would really like to see him as the feature back somewhere as long as its where a QB can get him the ball as a receiver. I've got him and Bell and hope one goes to Indy next year.Yes, IIRC. What's the implication. Running harder, doing more?
I've never been high on Ingram and vowed never to roster him but finally have. I changed my mind the past three years. Seems like more of a victim of the Saints game planning than anything else.
Kamara is a beast, though.
Who knows?
Do you have any data to support this theory? Here are a few players that performed pretty well after a suspension:I'm always skeptical of guys coming back from an extended layoff, whether it be from injury or suspension.
Ah, yep. Makes sense. Would be nice to see that.I would think he will bust his ### on all touches. Of course I think he already does anyway. Would really like to see him as the feature back somewhere as long as its where a QB can get him the ball as a receiver. I've got him and Bell and hope one goes to Indy next year.
Mine is WRs from Ohio State. Drafted David Boston but he pumped himself right out of the league. Such an idiot and his parents & sister were smart & successful. Fortunately I didn't have a shot at Michael Thomas because I would have ended up passing on him.Ah, yep. Makes sense. Would be nice to see that.
Much like people have other irrational prejudices, I have mine about backs from Alabama. It's weird. But he's won me over when I watch.
That's awesome.Might have to bench Josh Gordon for him as my flex this week.
Wish I could start both but my team is too damn good.
AJ and Golladay. Zeke and Marshawn at RB.That's awesome.
Laughing with, not at. You also have Smith-Schuster and Golladay and Hill, don't you?
You...did not draft Lamar Miller like I did.
Marshawn has been sweet at his ADP, eh?AJ and Golladay. Zeke and Marshawn at RB.
Didn't draft Miller but I did draft Drake which I think is worse.