Maroney Dynasty Owners (1 Viewer)

[Jon_Moore]

Talk about the bust of the year. Talented back, best offense...ever?

Scoring systems vary obviously, but in my league, he's got 40 points on the year, 0 in week 14.

After his big week 14 game, Samkon Gado has 36 points. Fred Taylor, Deshaun Foster, Droughns, Buckhalter, Maurice Hicks, Leonard Weaver, Darren Sproles, and tonight NOT included, even Aaron Stecker >Maroney on the year.

He mustered 100 yards against Buffallo, but nothing else.

Touchdowns in 2 separate games--but only 19 and 31 yards in those games.

He's not been reliable at all this year.

And with talk of the Pats looking for another back, possible McFadden in the draft...what do you do? Or for the smarter owners...what have you done?

 

[largentslovechild]

gave my left nut and maroney for Earnest Graham at the in-season trade deadline.

 

[eagles2007]

i think he's a buy-low candidate in a keeper/dynasty league. i think he goes somewhere else at some point and is a very good NFL starter.

he's a victim this year of circumstances. he doesn't fit into belichick's plan to run up the score and have brady and moss break records.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

I'm trying to package him in a deal but to no avail...I can't get value so I'll wait and see...

 

[Burning Sensation]

Last month, i traded him along with Greg Jennings and Paul Posluzny for what turned out to be the 1.3, 2.3, 3.3, and 4.3 rookie picks.

I didnt like getting rid of Jennings, but i had to give something of value to get rid of Maroney.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I know him in 2 Dynasties... So I feel the pain. As a owner, I can't give up on a jid that will be 23 next season... Maroney and Bush are very good Buy Lows this off-season.

 

[DarkManX]

Im keeping him. Call me nuts but I want to see what this guy has when your QB aint going for the TD record. I havent seen much of him this yr but surely his stats dont reflect his play but play-calling yes. If he does jack next yr then throw him in the bust pile but I feel he has too much talent just to throw away. I sure would be pissed if I got rid of him and NE decided to run the ##### out of the ball next yr!

 

[jetmonkey]

Keeping him. No sense in selling low.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden?

I may have given up on him a bit early, but i would assume most of you would give him up for a top 5 rookie pick, right?

P.S. How many of you selected him over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?

 

[Loopdog]

wait til next year when bb wants his team to hold the rushing td record and instructs all

his players to run out at the 1 so maroney can score 60 1 yard td runs

 

[Couch Potato]

The year Manning broke the TD record, once it was clear he was on a hot pace and could break it they really cut down the run in the red zone. Edge still had 9 TDs.

Maroney (I have him in two leagues) is sooooooooo frustrating because even when they are running, they use Faulk, Evans, the peanut guy in the stands, the bathroom attendant, and oh yeah Maroney gets a few carries.

Have they lost faith in him? Will he be "the guy" next year? Will McFadden be their pick? It's a hard place to be in for next year, being a Maroney owner. And I don't have any answers. And I doubt the tight-lipped BB will enlighten anybody.

So I guess I hold him and hope the draft comes and goes without NE adding a stud RB, unless someone offers me a solid RB for him because of his youth. In most dynasty leagues you just can't give him up for cheap now with as low as his consensus value has become. You have to hold and hope he turns it around.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

It just doesn't make any sense to trade him right now. His value is close to zero, so you'd have to assume he's at rock bottom. Watching the guy run, it's obvious that he has talent. If for some reason BB doesn't like Maroney, or he doesn't fit the scheme, or yadda yadda -- then eventually Maroney will go somewhere else and have value again. He's a young guy, could easily have a resurgence elsewhere.

I'm keeping him without hesitation. But I'm also not couting on him for anything above RB4 next year.

 

[Burning Sensation]

It just doesn't make any sense to trade him right now. His value is close to zero, so you'd have to assume he's at rock bottom. Watching the guy run, it's obvious that he has talent. If for some reason BB doesn't like Maroney, or he doesn't fit the scheme, or yadda yadda -- then eventually Maroney will go somewhere else and have value again. He's a young guy, could easily have a resurgence elsewhere. I'm keeping him without hesitation. But I'm also not couting on him for anything above RB4 next year.

What would you take, a draft pick, a Jennings or Marshall type WR, Cutler, Vince Young?

 

[Sack-Religious]

I've got him in one dynasty league and I'm going to try to shop him around.

I've got the 2nd overall pick in all rounds of our rookie draft and I'm hoping to offer Maroney and a 1st in the following year's draft for any pick in the 1.3 to 1.5 range which should yield me 2 solid backs to build around.

I'd seriously consider giving Maroney and my 2nd rounder for another early pick.

Don't know if I'll get any takers though.

 

[Sanboy]

hoping he has atleast 1 good playoff game so that owners can have that one big game fresh in their minds ... the moment trading starts up .. MARONEY is being shopped

1. he was never a full load RB even in college .. we should have seen this coming

2. he is always banged up .. even with LIMITED carries

3. N.E could very well keep the RBBC approach next year

4. even with limited value right now .. atleast he has some .. the moment they draft Mcfadden or sign another RB in the off-season whatever low value gets even lower

 

[Spike]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden?

I may have given up on him a bit early, but i would assume most of you would give him up for a top 5 rookie pick, right?

P.S. How many of you selected him over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?

I figure there is no chance the Pats draft McFadden for one simple reason - an RB drafted that highly takes an inordinate amount of cap money to sign. I just cannot see the Pats - based on their track record of spending - doing that.I could be wrong, but I really don't think I will be. (The Pats will have too many other places this money can be better utilized.)

 

[redman]

I too am keeping him.

The major problem here is not Maroney IMHO so much as it is the Patriots' love of passing. That team doesn't care about offensive balance and doesn't need to with Brady's abilities and that WR corps, not to mention that line's pass blocking. Once again, the old fantasy adage about situation being more important than talent or NFL draft position holds true.

 

[Buckna]

Holding for now, just too many variables still.

There's still a lot of games left for the Pats to play if you count the postseason. SF may be able to possibly win another game before it's all said and done as well. If 1 of the Jets, Falcons or the another teams jumps ahead of SF in the order, you have to think 1 of them might take McFadden. Even if the Pats end up at #2, would they really take him? They don't seem to need much of a running game and this was only Maroney's 2nd season in the league, awfully early to give up on the kid.

 

[Golden]

It is interesting, Marion Barber is the better pro, and it will be interesting to see if gary russell has a better pro career.

 

[Bizkiteer]

The Patriots might be drafting DMac as absolute jibberish! The Pats are long in the tooth when it comes to their defense, especially the LB corps. They clearly think they can stick anyone one back there and don't feel pressed to put their young up & coming RB in there. I see no chance of them picking DMac.

So, if I owned Maroney in a league...I would NOT give him away. Seeing how most would not value him for what he's worth, you hold. As shown in a previously mentioned FF deal, you are not going to get fair value. Thus, hold out and you might just be pleasantly surprised come next season. He's too talented and if the Pats can't use him, I'm sure another team can.

 

[zamboni]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden?

I may have given up on him a bit early, but i would assume most of you would give him up for a top 5 rookie pick, right?

P.S. How many of you selected him over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?

I figure there is no chance the Pats draft McFadden for one simple reason - an RB drafted that highly takes an inordinate amount of cap money to sign. I just cannot see the Pats - based on their track record of spending - doing that.

Didn't they open their wallets for Moss and Stallworth this year, not to mention Adalius Thomas? Granted those weren't at the RB position, but it seems like the team is a lot more willing to open its wallet nowadays.

 

[jetmonkey]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden? I may have given up on him a bit early, but i would assume most of you would give him up for a top 5 rookie pick, right?P.S. How many of you selected him over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?

Why would they draft McFadden when Morris, Faulk, Evans, Eckel etc. have all had success in the backfield?Yes, passed on Addai in two leagues - usually I do not do this, for instance drafting Fitzgerald in one league, Roy Williams in the other. Lesson learned.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden? I may have given up on him a bit early, but i would assume most of you would give him up for a top 5 rookie pick, right?P.S. How many of you selected him over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?

Maroney "fell" to me one pick after Addai. I had Maroney over Addai by a considerable margain on my draft board. I was a contending team, got the pick in a part of a huge deal, thought I had just STOLEN one. Yeah...

 

[redman]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden? I may have given up on him a bit early, but i would assume most of you would give him up for a top 5 rookie pick, right?P.S. How many of you selected him over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?

Maroney "fell" to me one pick after Addai. I had Maroney over Addai by a considerable margain on my draft board. I was a contending team, got the pick in a part of a huge deal, thought I had just STOLEN one. Yeah...

I could have written this.

 

[jburns]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden? I may have given up on him a bit early, but i would assume most of you would give him up for a top 5 rookie pick, right?P.S. How many of you selected him over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?

Maroney "fell" to me one pick after Addai. I had Maroney over Addai by a considerable margain on my draft board. I was a contending team, got the pick in a part of a huge deal, thought I had just STOLEN one. Yeah...

I could have written this.

me too. i remember talking to the owner who picked before me and "leaked" some info that i was choosing between lendale white and addai. when that owner chose addai, i was ecstatic to pick up maroney. i probably would have been better with lendale! but in my deep keeper, i'll probably keep him. there really is no choice at this point, i can't imagine anyone willing to pay anything substantive to acquire him (i'm sure i'll get some lowball offers from the "buy low" crowd).

 

[Rovers]

In one league, an owner asked about him... around week 6 or 7. I asked him how much value he thought he had. He offered two first round picks (turned out to be a 1.2 and somewhere between a 1.12 and 1.16) and ten league dollars. I was thrilled. In another league, I will hold him since his trade value is knee high to a toilet bowl.

So, I gave up on him about 5 games into the season. I think as long as BB and Maroney are in NE, he will put up less FF points than Leon Washington.

 

[Ryan_21]

Things that could happen in NE next year. Brady will have all the single season passing records, so there will be no need to air it out every play like they do now. Also, Randy Moss is a FA and if he gets his ring he is going to want a big contract that the Pats are most likely not willing to pay, so he could be gone. Now the Pats will have to revert to their old style of play which was running the ball 45-55% of the time. Hell Belicheck is so arrogant that he could seriously be saving Maroney for next year just so he can run him to death and set all the single season rushing records. With BBs arrogance I can see that happening. Im not selling Maroney in Dynasty because above all that he is still only 23 years old.

 

[Anarchy99]

hoping he has atleast 1 good playoff game so that owners can have that one big game fresh in their minds ... the moment trading starts up .. MARONEY is being shopped

1. he was never a full load RB even in college .. we should have seen this coming

2. he is always banged up .. even with LIMITED carries

3. N.E could very well keep the RBBC approach next year

4. even with limited value right now .. atleast he has some .. the moment they draft Mcfadden or sign another RB in the off-season whatever low value gets even lower

He had 281 carries in 11 games his final season at Minnesota. That's almost 26 per game.

 

[Anarchy99]

Things that could happen in NE next year. Brady will have all the single season passing records, so there will be no need to air it out every play like they do now. Also, Randy Moss is a FA and if he gets his ring he is going to want a big contract that the Pats are most likely not willing to pay, so he could be gone. Now the Pats will have to revert to their old style of play which was running the ball 45-55% of the time. Hell Belicheck is so arrogant that he could seriously be saving Maroney for next year just so he can run him to death and set all the single season rushing records. With BBs arrogance I can see that happening. Im not selling Maroney in Dynasty because above all that he is still only 23 years old.

Moss isn't going anywhere. I would put the likelihood of him leaving at about 1%. The roundabout way that may impact Maroney is the Pats are behind the 8-ball in terms of having to shell out money to sign people next year. Moss will cost a pretty penny. They will try (and probably fail) to sign Samuel. And they have a near the top draft pick that could cost them $50M. Given all that, they may not have the money to make a change at RB.

 

[Brutis]

Things that could happen in NE next year. Brady will have all the single season passing records, so there will be no need to air it out every play like they do now.

That makes no sense at all. Let me get this straight...The Pats passing the ball every down worked so well this year that they will abandon it next year cuz they have all the passing records?

 

[Gandalf]

He's a "hold" right now. 1) his value is low. You're honestly going to be selling after an awful season. For a RB with talent, that's a bad plan. 2) there's reasons for his low stats this year. Early in the season he was recovering from off season shoulder surgery. This was when the Pats running game was being emphasized so Sammy Morris got more of the carries, especially around the goal line where it's more physical. Then he suffered through a groin injury which set him back a few games--and he might still be dealing with that injury. And with the Pats unstoppable passing offense, there is no reason to run the football now. 3) there's reason to be optimistic for next year. My main point for holding him is that I want to see what he does when he's not dealing with injuries. I'm viewing this year as a throw away. And if Maroney doesn't perform next season then you trade him for pretty much the same value you'd get now. I don't see big risk in waiting in dynasty leagues.

 

[Tanner9919]

i think he's a buy-low candidate in a keeper/dynasty league. i think he goes somewhere else at some point and is a very good NFL starter. he's a victim this year of circumstances. he doesn't fit into belichick's plan to run up the score and have brady and moss break records.

he won't be around next year, or will be on the bench, or traded. he's worth pixie dust, at this point...they will try to take McFadden with the draft pick they got from San Fran, likely to be #3 overall.buh-bye Maroney..

 

[Burning Sensation]

He's a "hold" right now. 1) his value is low. You're honestly going to be selling after an awful season. For a RB with talent, that's a bad plan. 2) there's reasons for his low stats this year. Early in the season he was recovering from off season shoulder surgery. This was when the Pats running game was being emphasized so Sammy Morris got more of the carries, especially around the goal line where it's more physical. Then he suffered through a groin injury which set him back a few games--and he might still be dealing with that injury. And with the Pats unstoppable passing offense, there is no reason to run the football now. 3) there's reason to be optimistic for next year. My main point for holding him is that I want to see what he does when he's not dealing with injuries. I'm viewing this year as a throw away. And if Maroney doesn't perform next season then you trade him for pretty much the same value you'd get now. I don't see big risk in waiting in dynasty leagues.

Thats not true, any value he has now will be completely gone

 

[Sinrman]

Keeping him. No sense in selling low.

I have him in a few leagues, and have been very frustrated with him. You would think that being in the best offense in the NFL would work perfectly for him. But I think it has had the opposite effect on him. He's only getting 8-10 carries a game it seems, and he could benefit from 20-25 a game. He's not doing much with the few opportunities he's getting, and it's frustrating Belicheck even more, which means even fewer carries...I don't see a point now of selling really low. I'm going to just hang on to him, unless someone wants to include him in a package deal or something...

 

[Gandalf]

He's a "hold" right now. 1) his value is low. You're honestly going to be selling after an awful season. For a RB with talent, that's a bad plan. 2) there's reasons for his low stats this year. Early in the season he was recovering from off season shoulder surgery. This was when the Pats running game was being emphasized so Sammy Morris got more of the carries, especially around the goal line where it's more physical. Then he suffered through a groin injury which set him back a few games--and he might still be dealing with that injury. And with the Pats unstoppable passing offense, there is no reason to run the football now. 3) there's reason to be optimistic for next year. My main point for holding him is that I want to see what he does when he's not dealing with injuries. I'm viewing this year as a throw away. And if Maroney doesn't perform next season then you trade him for pretty much the same value you'd get now. I don't see big risk in waiting in dynasty leagues.

Thats not true, any value he has now will be completely gone

My point is that this HAS already occurred. For the most part, Maroney owners are practically at despair. Anyone willing to trade for him would want him at this dirt cheap price. Seriously, what value do you think he has right now?

 

[Burning Sensation]

He's a "hold" right now. 1) his value is low. You're honestly going to be selling after an awful season. For a RB with talent, that's a bad plan. 2) there's reasons for his low stats this year. Early in the season he was recovering from off season shoulder surgery. This was when the Pats running game was being emphasized so Sammy Morris got more of the carries, especially around the goal line where it's more physical. Then he suffered through a groin injury which set him back a few games--and he might still be dealing with that injury. And with the Pats unstoppable passing offense, there is no reason to run the football now. 3) there's reason to be optimistic for next year. My main point for holding him is that I want to see what he does when he's not dealing with injuries. I'm viewing this year as a throw away. And if Maroney doesn't perform next season then you trade him for pretty much the same value you'd get now. I don't see big risk in waiting in dynasty leagues.

Thats not true, any value he has now will be completely gone

My point is that this HAS already occurred. For the most part, Maroney owners are practically at despair. Anyone willing to trade for him would want him at this dirt cheap price. Seriously, what value do you think he has right now?

Very little, his only value is "maybe he bounces back next year" Once that is gone, he will be as valuable as Anthony Thomas.I am not saying you should be actively shopping him, but if someone asks about him, i would certainly listen.

 

[Routilla]

Keeping him. No sense in selling low.

Good call. Trading him low is the worst thing you could do. He still has potential.

 

[az_prof]

He was hurt all off season; how much could that have hurt his production this year? I kept away from him in redraft for that reason.

 

[SSOG]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden?

To be perfectly honest, that's probably the best thing that could possibly happen to Maroney owners. Why? Well, if New England drafts McFadden, then they'll be looking to move Maroney, in which case he's a mortal lock to become a Bronco. Shanahan called him the best RB prospect he'd ever seen when he was coming out (and had him rated higher than Bush on his board)... and Shanahan never forgets. When he covets a player but misses out in the draft, and then that player underperforms and becomes available, Shanahan has a long track record at jumping at the chance.With that said, I doubt the Pats draft McFadden.

Keeping him. No sense in selling low.

Good call. Trading him low is the worst thing you could do. He still has potential.

There's nothing wrong with trading low, provided you aren't trading LOWEST. Barry Sanders' value is pretty low right now, but if I could trade him for anything at all, I'd jump at the chance. Why? Because I firmly believe that his value is never going to go back up. Even if a player's value is low, if you think it's only going down from here, it's time to sell.

 

[hbkhbk]

To be perfectly honest, that's probably the best thing that could possibly happen to Maroney owners. Why? Well, if New England drafts McFadden, then they'll be looking to move Maroney, in which case he's a mortal lock to become a Bronco. Shanahan called him the best RB prospect he'd ever seen when he was coming out (and had him rated higher than Bush on his board)... and Shanahan never forgets. When he covets a player but misses out in the draft, and then that player underperforms and becomes available, Shanahan has a long track record at jumping at the chance.

Didn't Shanahan call Kevan Barlow the best of the draft too???

 

[az_prof]

I agree that I doubt the pats draft McFadden. Why? Billicheat almost never does what other people expect.

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden?

To be perfectly honest, that's probably the best thing that could possibly happen to Maroney owners. Why? Well, if New England drafts McFadden, then they'll be looking to move Maroney, in which case he's a mortal lock to become a Bronco. Shanahan called him the best RB prospect he'd ever seen when he was coming out (and had him rated higher than Bush on his board)... and Shanahan never forgets. When he covets a player but misses out in the draft, and then that player underperforms and becomes available, Shanahan has a long track record at jumping at the chance.With that said, I doubt the Pats draft McFadden.

Keeping him. No sense in selling low.

Good call. Trading him low is the worst thing you could do. He still has potential.

There's nothing wrong with trading low, provided you aren't trading LOWEST. Barry Sanders' value is pretty low right now, but if I could trade him for anything at all, I'd jump at the chance. Why? Because I firmly believe that his value is never going to go back up. Even if a player's value is low, if you think it's only going down from here, it's time to sell.

 

[Bossman]

Does it concern the Maroney owners that the Pats might draft Mcfadden?

I may have given up on him a bit early, but i would assume most of you would give him up for a top 5 rookie pick, right?

P.S. How many of you selected him over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?

P.S.S. How many of you selected Bush over Addai in a dynasty league rookie draft?... but I digress... I think you could still find a sucker.... ah.. I meen a suitor for Maroney. He is still young and on a high scoring team.

Sell now before all value is lost but don't give him away for peanuts.

 

[-OZ-]

Things that could happen in NE next year. Brady will have all the single season passing records, so there will be no need to air it out every play like they do now.

That makes no sense at all. Let me get this straight...The Pats passing the ball every down worked so well this year that they will abandon it next year cuz they have all the passing records?

sure, they may have already gone undefeated too, so there won't be any need to win each game

 

[faulkfan]

Let me ask this. Is he a good RB who is the victim of a system that misuses (or underuses him) or is he a poor RB that just can't cut it in the NFL?

If the answer is the former then he is worth keeping, if the latter is the case then get what you can for him and move on.

 

[Anarchy99]

Let me ask this. Is he a good RB who is the victim of a system that misuses (or underuses him) or is he a poor RB that just can't cut it in the NFL?If the answer is the former then he is worth keeping, if the latter is the case then get what you can for him and move on.

IMO, he is the wrong style of running back for the role is has been asked to fill on a team that presently is not very interested in running the football. THe Pats have been trying to make Maroney a drop your head and move the pile type guy when his strengths are running east and west to try to get in space and utilize his speed. His penchant for getting banged up so far in his career has not helped endear himself with the Pats brass. At this point, what you see is sadly what I expect you'll get in the current configuration of the Patriots. Mind you, that is always subject to change, as the team has always tried to play to its strengths which for now is passing a lot.

 

[SSOG]

To be perfectly honest, that's probably the best thing that could possibly happen to Maroney owners. Why? Well, if New England drafts McFadden, then they'll be looking to move Maroney, in which case he's a mortal lock to become a Bronco. Shanahan called him the best RB prospect he'd ever seen when he was coming out (and had him rated higher than Bush on his board)... and Shanahan never forgets. When he covets a player but misses out in the draft, and then that player underperforms and becomes available, Shanahan has a long track record at jumping at the chance.

Didn't Shanahan call Kevan Barlow the best of the draft too???

There's a difference between calling a guy the best in the draft and calling a guy the best you've ever seen coming out.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

He's a "hold" right now. 1) his value is low. You're honestly going to be selling after an awful season. For a RB with talent, that's a bad plan. 2) there's reasons for his low stats this year. Early in the season he was recovering from off season shoulder surgery. This was when the Pats running game was being emphasized so Sammy Morris got more of the carries, especially around the goal line where it's more physical. Then he suffered through a groin injury which set him back a few games--and he might still be dealing with that injury. And with the Pats unstoppable passing offense, there is no reason to run the football now. 3) there's reason to be optimistic for next year. My main point for holding him is that I want to see what he does when he's not dealing with injuries. I'm viewing this year as a throw away. And if Maroney doesn't perform next season then you trade him for pretty much the same value you'd get now. I don't see big risk in waiting in dynasty leagues.

Thats not true, any value he has now will be completely gone

My point is that this HAS already occurred. For the most part, Maroney owners are practically at despair. Anyone willing to trade for him would want him at this dirt cheap price. Seriously, what value do you think he has right now?

Right now, his value is probably around Tatum Bell about 1 year ago. If he does poorly next year, his value will be around Tatum Bell right now.

 

[KellysHeroes]

In one league, an owner asked about him... around week 6 or 7. I asked him how much value he thought he had. He offered two first round picks (turned out to be a 1.2 and somewhere between a 1.12 and 1.16) and ten league dollars. I was thrilled. In another league, I will hold him since his trade value is knee high to a toilet bowl.

So, I gave up on him about 5 games into the season. I think as long as BB and Maroney are in NE, he will put up less FF points than Leon Washington.

you Maroney owners just need to hold it... the Kidd has talent; I think these last 2 games quieted the McFadden talks for NE.

 

[AYBABTUS]

I gave up early

* ME gave up Maroney, Laurence NEP RB

* TEAM B gave up Smith, Musa BAL RB; Year 2008 Round 1 Draft Pick from TEAM B

Wed Sep 26 7:14:01 a.m. PT 2007

Ended up being pick 1.02. Musa Smith was just a throw in obviously. They had McGahee so I thought if he went down I could trade Musa back to them for something more.

I couldn't be happier with the trade. About to win my Championship (assuming Gates doesn't get outscored by Marshall by 30) and have picks 1 2 and 12 going into next year.

 

[Rovers]

In one league, an owner asked about him... around week 6 or 7. I asked him how much value he thought he had. He offered two first round picks (turned out to be a 1.2 and somewhere between a 1.12 and 1.16) and ten league dollars. I was thrilled. In another league, I will hold him since his trade value is knee high to a toilet bowl. So, I gave up on him about 5 games into the season. I think as long as BB and Maroney are in NE, he will put up less FF points than Leon Washington.

Kind of ironic.... in the one league I held him, I started him last week and this week. He paid serious divendends. Having said that, his day was still only based on two touches. Bad weather games in both cases. I don;t regret having traded him in a rebuild league, but was happy to catch lightning in a bottle in the other league for two weeks. I still think his long term value is over rated with BB as his HC.