Maroney - RANKING and ADP? (1 Viewer)

[fridayfrenzy]

With Dillon now saying he wants to be released to retire or his agent saying he wants to find a starting role elsewhere, what will be Maroney's RB ranking and ADP in a standard FBG scoring league?

As well, what type of trades are you offering or being offered for Maroney in dynasty/keeper leagues?

 

[David Yudkin]

Maroney's stock will go way up, but IMO it will go up TOO FAR. I suspect N.E. will add another RB (and it could even be Dillon). I don't think Maroney vaults up to the 300+ carry mark next year. Someone else will split time or serve the role Dillon did last year. More carries for Maroney, yes. A workhorse workload, probably not. I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

 

[LHUCKS]

Maroney's stock will go way up, but IMO it will go up TOO FAR. I suspect N.E. will add another RB (and it could even be Dillon). I don't think Maroney vaults up to the 300+ carry mark next year. Someone else will split time or serve the role Dillon did last year. More carreies for Maroney, yes. A workhorse workload, probably not. I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

Pretty much agree with all of that, although I do think Maroney has the potential to get an insane amount of TDs...it's tough to project that though. I think double digit TDs is a lock.

 

[David Yudkin]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

So you don't really see much change at all, cause Maroney was probably in the 15-20 range (redraft) before this news?

 

[David Yudkin]

I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

So you don't really see much change at all, cause Maroney was probably in the 15-20 range (redraft) before this news?

In my world, I had Maroney just out of the Top 20 because I felt Dillon would come back and the two would split the workload similar to this year with Maroney getting a bit more yardage and Dillon getting way more TDs.So I pushed Maroney up as much as 7 or 8 spots. I still feel that the Pats will not just hand a major workload to Maroney because this year they had some concerns about his durability.

 

[LHUCKS]

I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

So you don't really see much change at all, cause Maroney was probably in the 15-20 range (redraft) before this news?

In my world, I had Maroney just out of the Top 20 because I felt Dillon would come back and the two would split the workload similar to this year with Maroney getting a bit more yardage and Dillon getting way more TDs.So I pushed Maroney up as much as 7 or 8 spots. I still feel that the Pats will not just hand a major workload to Maroney because this year they had some concerns about his durability.

well it takes most backs a while to take on workhorse loads, Steven Jackson, Tiki Barber...the list goes on and on. The Patriots may have set their expectations a bit too high for a rookie.

 

[On The Rocks]

ESPN radio was reporting this morning that this whole retirement thing may not be happening.

They reported that the Boston reporter stated Dillon asked for his release so he could retire....and Dillon's agent was quoted as saying Dilloin asked for his release or to be traded.

If what the agent says is true, and BB can't get the value he wants to replace him, they might ask Dillon to stick around for another year at a reduced salary. Not sure how that would work out, or what the particulars are of his current contract, but it is something to consider.

 

[Buckna]

I see only a slight change in dynasty value, there already was speculation that Dillon would be cut and there's speculation now that he'll either be back or the Pats will add another RB to the mix. I already had him in the RB 12-18 range.

He's a sophomore back that showed some promise last year, but is he the next Steven Jackson or is he the next Julius Jones? Maybe there are better examples out there, but sophomore backs seem almost like crapshoots to me every year. Some succeed when handed the reins, some don't.

 

[Warhogs]

Maybe this has been discussed here before but I will ask it with the news of this POSSIBLE retirement. Does anyone know if Maroney is generally viewed as a guy that can be a workhorse RB or thought to be better splitting carries? I ask because he spent most of his college career splitting carries with Barber and last year splitting with Dillon.

 

[LHUCKS]

Maybe this has been discussed here before but I will ask it with the news of this POSSIBLE retirement. Does anyone know if Maroney is generally viewed as a guy that can be a workhorse RB or thought to be better splitting carries? I ask because he spent most of his college career splitting carries with Barber and last year splitting with Dillon.

The Patriots believe he can be a workhorse.

 

[Gandalf]

I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

I appreciate the information. But I do find that kinda crazy. I don't think anyone in the NFL should be even a little disappointed with Maroney's performance. If this is truely the way they feel, then I just don't get the Pats. They should have been thrilled with Maroney's overall performance. Their standards are way too high if they weren't. Barring some attitude issue or something that I'm not aware of.Maroney was a 21-year old rookie who came in as the backup to a very good RB and team with super bowl aspirations. He handled the pressue really well and was rock solid in multiple areas of the game. It seemed to me that Maroney 1) hit the rookie wall which is common and 2) got dinged up down the stretch. These were the two biggest factors for his production tailing off. I'm sure everyone remembers that Maroney would routinely rip off 15 yard runs when was healthy, running on fresh legs early in the season.

 

[billyjoe]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

How many "big backs" come in and steal TDs?Jacobs.MBIII?And that's it? So there's one, maybe two goal line vultures in the league. (I checked everyone with 4+ TDs last year. )So 2 teams, you could argue 1, had a "big back" who stole TDs. I don't know about you, but that's not something I worry about. Teams almost NEVER take out the #1 RB in the RZ. Duckett couldn't get a carry from Betts/Portis. So after Dodds put Portis at RB21 pre-draft last year, I figured this whole "big mean RB coming to steal all the TDs" myth was done.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Assuming Dillon is actually gone, there's no way they go into next season with just Maroney, Kevin Faulk, and...Heath Evans? Patrtick Pass? at RB. They'll add someone.

 

[noneother]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

How many "big backs" come in and steal TDs?Jacobs.MBIII?And that's it? So there's one, maybe two goal line vultures in the league. (I checked everyone with 4+ TDs last year. )So 2 teams, you could argue 1, had a "big back" who stole TDs. I don't know about you, but that's not something I worry about. Teams almost NEVER take out the #1 RB in the RZ. Duckett couldn't get a carry from Betts/Portis. So after Dodds put Portis at RB21 pre-draft last year, I figured this whole "big mean RB coming to steal all the TDs" myth was done.

what of NO??

 

[David Yudkin]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

How many "big backs" come in and steal TDs?Jacobs.MBIII?And that's it? So there's one, maybe two goal line vultures in the league. (I checked everyone with 4+ TDs last year. )So 2 teams, you could argue 1, had a "big back" who stole TDs. I don't know about you, but that's not something I worry about. Teams almost NEVER take out the #1 RB in the RZ. Duckett couldn't get a carry from Betts/Portis. So after Dodds put Portis at RB21 pre-draft last year, I figured this whole "big mean RB coming to steal all the TDs" myth was done.

Here are teams that at some point in the season implemented a rotation of backs that at times yielded a different RB at the goal line: IND, NE, JAX (well, that was the plan but Jones got hurt), NYJ, DEN, NO, TB, DAL, NYG, SF, ARI.

 

[Imedos]

IF dillon does leave, I don't think it's a lock that they'll add someone significant like a lot of people in this thread do.

They've gone to battle with the cupboard bare behind their projected starter in their recent history with Dillon and Smith. This is the first time they've ever had that much talent in the backfield under BB.

They also lost one of their starting wrs, had an ugly holdout looming with Branch, yet still did very little to address the wr situation.

imo, unless something falls into their laps, it's Maroney or bust.

 

[David Yudkin]

IF dillon does leave, I don't think it's a lock that they'll add someone significant like a lot of people in this thread do.They've gone to battle with the cupboard bare behind their projected starter in their recent history with Dillon and Smith. This is the first time they've ever had that much talent in the backfield under BB.They also lost one of their starting wrs, had an ugly holdout looming with Branch, yet still did very little to address the wr situation.imo, unless something falls into their laps, it's Maroney or bust.

If Dillon is indeed gone, that leaves them with only Maroney and Faulk under contract (Pass and Evans are free agents). The Pats WILL NOT only carry two RBs.

 

[billyjoe]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

How many "big backs" come in and steal TDs?Jacobs.MBIII?And that's it? So there's one, maybe two goal line vultures in the league. (I checked everyone with 4+ TDs last year. )So 2 teams, you could argue 1, had a "big back" who stole TDs. I don't know about you, but that's not something I worry about. Teams almost NEVER take out the #1 RB in the RZ. Duckett couldn't get a carry from Betts/Portis. So after Dodds put Portis at RB21 pre-draft last year, I figured this whole "big mean RB coming to steal all the TDs" myth was done.

Here are teams that at some point in the season implemented a rotation of backs that at times yielded a differnet RB at the goal line: IND, NE, JAX (well, that was the plan but Jones got hurt), NYJ, DEN, NO, TB, DAL, NYG, SF, ARI.

Who was the "big back" in Indy?Maroney was the "big back" and he's now starting?NYJ - noDen - noNO - Okay.TB - Alstott got 3 tds. Not exactly a monster TD vultureDal - MentionedNYG - SameSF - Uhh, Mrob was a TD vulture? That's news to me.ARI - Did Shipp pay you to say that?So is Michael Robinson really dropping your Gore rank because of his TD vulturing? Did Shipp really concern you with Edges ranking? Did Alstott's 3 TDs really keep Caddy down? Jets/Denver were RBBC. Not really sure who was the big back td vulture in any of those situations. Mike Bell and Barlow? I'll give you 3 out of 32.Who exactly are they going to bring in that's as good as Maroney that's going to cut into his production. Clearly there's very few pure short yardage TD vultures in the NFL. So unless the RB has a bunch of talent, they're not taking Maroney out in the RZ.Not to mention Maroney is a big back, and he's good in short yardage/GL. I don't really care who they bring in, I feel pretty secure with Maroney's role if Dillon is gone.

 

[Gandalf]

If Dillon is indeed gone, that leaves them with only Maroney and Faulk under contract (Pass and Evans are free agents). The Pats WILL NOT only carry two RBs.

Defintely. The question will be do they sign a vet or look to the draft?

 

[David Yudkin]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

How many "big backs" come in and steal TDs?Jacobs.MBIII?And that's it? So there's one, maybe two goal line vultures in the league. (I checked everyone with 4+ TDs last year. )So 2 teams, you could argue 1, had a "big back" who stole TDs. I don't know about you, but that's not something I worry about. Teams almost NEVER take out the #1 RB in the RZ. Duckett couldn't get a carry from Betts/Portis. So after Dodds put Portis at RB21 pre-draft last year, I figured this whole "big mean RB coming to steal all the TDs" myth was done.

Here are teams that at some point in the season implemented a rotation of backs that at times yielded a differnet RB at the goal line: IND, NE, JAX (well, that was the plan but Jones got hurt), NYJ, DEN, NO, TB, DAL, NYG, SF, ARI.

Who was the "big back" in Indy?Maroney was the "big back" and he's now starting?NYJ - noDen - noNO - Okay.TB - Alstott got 3 tds. Not exactly a monster TD vultureDal - MentionedNYG - SameSF - Uhh, Mrob was a TD vulture? That's news to me.ARI - Did Shipp pay you to say that?So is Michael Robinson really dropping your Gore rank because of his TD vulturing? Did Shipp really concern you with Edges ranking? Did Alstott's 3 TDs really keep Caddy down? Jets/Denver were RBBC. Not really sure who was the big back td vulture in any of those situations. Mike Bell and Barlow? I'll give you 3 out of 32.Who exactly are they going to bring in that's as good as Maroney that's going to cut into his production. Clearly there's very few pure short yardage TD vultures in the NFL. So unless the RB has a bunch of talent, they're not taking Maroney out in the RZ.Not to mention Maroney is a big back, and he's good in short yardage/GL. I don't really care who they bring in, I feel pretty secure with Maroney's role if Dillon is gone.

I was considering players that took some TDs, no matter the size of the RBs.

 

[Imedos]

IF dillon does leave, I don't think it's a lock that they'll add someone significant like a lot of people in this thread do.They've gone to battle with the cupboard bare behind their projected starter in their recent history with Dillon and Smith. This is the first time they've ever had that much talent in the backfield under BB.They also lost one of their starting wrs, had an ugly holdout looming with Branch, yet still did very little to address the wr situation.imo, unless something falls into their laps, it's Maroney or bust.

If Dillon is indeed gone, that leaves them with only Maroney and Faulk under contract (Pass and Evans are free agents). The Pats WILL NOT only carry two RBs.

I wouldn't count either of those two guys as significant. Will they add some depth? Sure. Will they add someone talented enough to keep Maroney on the bench? Doubt it.

 

[wadegarrett]

Maroney's stock will go way up, but IMO it will go up TOO FAR. I suspect N.E. will add another RB (and it could even be Dillon). I don't think Maroney vaults up to the 300+ carry mark next year. Someone else will split time or serve the role Dillon did last year. More carreies for Maroney, yes. A workhorse workload, probably not. I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

Pretty much agree with all of that, although I do think Maroney has the potential to get an insane amount of TDs...it's tough to project that though. I think double digit TDs is a lock.

Someone hit me over the head with a hammer b/c I agree w/ LHUCKS.2006 Stats

Dillon 199 rushes for 812 yards and 13 TDs

Maroney 175 rushes for 745 yards and 6 TDs

If Maroney only gets half the carries that Dillon was getting, that puts him at 275 rushes. At his YPC last year, that puts him at almost 1200 yards. He'll get the goaline work also. He's only 2 inches shorter and 5 lbs. lighter than Dillon. He'll definitely go over 10 TDs.

IMO, those numbers put him in the top 10.

Of course, that all looks good on paper.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Assuming Dillon is actually gone, there's no way they go into next season with just Maroney, Kevin Faulk, and...Heath Evans? Patrtick Pass? at RB. They'll add someone.

...and Garrett Mills as a FB. But they will need a real runner besides Maroney.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Realistically, they will add a guy or two for depth, but I hardly think they are going to add anyone approaching the talent and skill levels of Maroney.

They blew their first round draft pick wad on Maroney last year. I wouldn't be shocked to see them draft someone in the third round for depth, or pick-up a free agent soon. But, I don't believe they are going to sink a lot of dollars or draft pick value into another RB.

I see them giving more attention to the OL, where better protection translates into more passing opportunities and bigger running lanes.

 

[Couch Potato]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

How many "big backs" come in and steal TDs?Jacobs.MBIII?And that's it? So there's one, maybe two goal line vultures in the league. (I checked everyone with 4+ TDs last year. )So 2 teams, you could argue 1, had a "big back" who stole TDs. I don't know about you, but that's not something I worry about. Teams almost NEVER take out the #1 RB in the RZ. Duckett couldn't get a carry from Betts/Portis. So after Dodds put Portis at RB21 pre-draft last year, I figured this whole "big mean RB coming to steal all the TDs" myth was done.

Let's clarify something before too many people get carried away with the big back / small back thing.Maroney is 6'0" 216 lbs, just about identical to Edge and Ahman Green. That was last year's entry weight, and at 21 he is probably filling out some in the next couple of years. MBIII mentioned above, by comparison, is listed at 6'0" 212 lbs. Maroney's size is not an issue and I'm not really understanding why people here are thinking of him as a small back. He's not a small back.

 

[Gandalf]

Realistically, they will add a guy or two for depth, but I hardly think they are going to add anyone approaching the talent and skill levels of Maroney.They blew their first round draft pick wad on Maroney last year. I wouldn't be shocked to see them draft someone in the third round for depth, or pick-up a free agent soon. But, I don't believe they are going to sink a lot of dollars or draft pick value into another RB.I see them giving more attention to the OL, where better protection translates into more passing opportunities and bigger running lanes.

And the Pats also will not be able to add a guy with the skill approaching Corey Dillon. Bottom line is that no Corey Dillon next year is an incremental positive for Maroney owners. No matter which RB they bring into the mix, the new guy likely won't be as good as Dillon or as familiar with the Pats' system.

 

[billyjoe]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

How many "big backs" come in and steal TDs?Jacobs.MBIII?And that's it? So there's one, maybe two goal line vultures in the league. (I checked everyone with 4+ TDs last year. )So 2 teams, you could argue 1, had a "big back" who stole TDs. I don't know about you, but that's not something I worry about. Teams almost NEVER take out the #1 RB in the RZ. Duckett couldn't get a carry from Betts/Portis. So after Dodds put Portis at RB21 pre-draft last year, I figured this whole "big mean RB coming to steal all the TDs" myth was done.

Let's clarify something before too many people get carried away with the big back / small back thing.Maroney is 6'0" 216 lbs, just about identical to Edge and Ahman Green. That was last year's entry weight, and at 21 he is probably filling out some in the next couple of years. MBIII mentioned above, by comparison, is listed at 6'0" 212 lbs. Maroney's size is not an issue and I'm not really understanding why people here are thinking of him as a small back. He's not a small back.

I think the main point they were trying to make was, what if the Pats bring in a GL/Short yardage SPECIALIST to steal TDs. And my point was, beyond Alstott (and maybe Jacobs - Reggie Bush is a stretch, and the Pats are not bringing in a Bush type talent), those don't exist. There are no dominant TD vultures out there. Name one guy that is going to put Maroney on the bench in the RZ? Shipp? Really? Jamal Lewis would split time. That's a different animal. Do we really see the Pats bringing in a RB to split time? Maybe.But a specialist guy who will steal RZ tds? I don't see it.

 

[Couch Potato]

I think double digit TDs is a lock.

IMO, it depends on who they bring in and what role that guy will serve. If they sign a big bruiser as a short yardage back, I would not think double digit TDs would be a lock. Think Maroney serving as a Warrick Dunn role in that scenario.I have heard that the Pats behind closed doors were a little disappointed that Maroney was not able to take on a greater share of the workload by the end of the year, and I am not sure if that will impact their strategy for 2007.

How many "big backs" come in and steal TDs?Jacobs.MBIII?And that's it? So there's one, maybe two goal line vultures in the league. (I checked everyone with 4+ TDs last year. )So 2 teams, you could argue 1, had a "big back" who stole TDs. I don't know about you, but that's not something I worry about. Teams almost NEVER take out the #1 RB in the RZ. Duckett couldn't get a carry from Betts/Portis. So after Dodds put Portis at RB21 pre-draft last year, I figured this whole "big mean RB coming to steal all the TDs" myth was done.

Let's clarify something before too many people get carried away with the big back / small back thing.Maroney is 6'0" 216 lbs, just about identical to Edge and Ahman Green. That was last year's entry weight, and at 21 he is probably filling out some in the next couple of years. MBIII mentioned above, by comparison, is listed at 6'0" 212 lbs. Maroney's size is not an issue and I'm not really understanding why people here are thinking of him as a small back. He's not a small back.

I think the main point they were trying to make was, what if the Pats bring in a GL/Short yardage SPECIALIST to steal TDs. And my point was, beyond Alstott (and maybe Jacobs - Reggie Bush is a stretch, and the Pats are not bringing in a Bush type talent), those don't exist. There are no dominant TD vultures out there. Name one guy that is going to put Maroney on the bench in the RZ? Shipp? Really? Jamal Lewis would split time. That's a different animal. Do we really see the Pats bringing in a RB to split time? Maybe.But a specialist guy who will steal RZ tds? I don't see it.

I completely agree with you, Billyjoe. i was quoting your post only because it included MBIII and I included him in my comment. I wasn't trying to contradict anything you said. The idea of a sloth RB getting goal line carries is a myth I think for the most part. Too often they are just too slow and get stood up.ETA - exceptions like Duckett when he was in ATL and Jacobs in NYG were because Dunn and Tiki are 180 and 200 lbs respectively. In those cases it made sense sometimes to go with more power.

 

[crnerblitz]

Not to mention Maroney is a big back, and he's good in short yardage/GL. I don't really care who they bring in, I feel pretty secure with Maroney's role if Dillon is gone.

As a Maroney owner the only back I am worried about cutting into his stats is Corey Dillon. End of list. I just dont see them bringing in anyone else whom poses a threat for significant playing time.

 

[Keys Myaths]

I put him in the lower part of the top ten.

Listen, there's just not a lot of backs you can count on for double-digit TDs.

Do you guys REALIZE what just 10 TDs and 1000 yards gets you?

Deuce McAllister, 2006--the 10th ranked RB in FF.

 

[QUEZILLA]

I expect them to target Justin Griffith.

 

[mozzy84]

Not to mention Maroney is a big back, and he's good in short yardage/GL. I don't really care who they bring in, I feel pretty secure with Maroney's role if Dillon is gone.

As a Maroney owner the only back I am worried about cutting into his stats is Corey Dillon. End of list. I just dont see them bringing in anyone else whom poses a threat for significant playing time.

totally agree with that

 

[TD Ryan]

The Patriots may have set their expectations a bit too high for a rookie.

maybe.but any common fan who watched/saw Maroney could testify that despite having a decent sized frame, he wasn't filled out... he looked very young and underdeveloped physically (by NFL standards).if everyday fans saw this, so too must have NE's "experts".Then factor in that Maroney was a full time kick returner. He returned approx. 30 kicks this year. Working as a return man may be the most dangerous and physically demanding job in the NFL.I just can't imagine that Maroney undershot anyone's expectations by that much.And looking forward, I think he'll be alright.With a full season of NFL weight training under his belt and little (or no) work as a return man next year, Maroney is poised to do some nice things as a starting RB.Then add in how impressed Belichick was with Maroney's hands. Maroney caught 22 passes last year in part time duty and you know BB wasn't bluffing about the kids hand otherwise Maroney would NEVER have been put on return duty.So, I believe he'll be bulkier and stronger AND he'll be utilized even more as a pass catcher.All good fantasy news for Maroney.

 

[Ed Wood]

Maroney's stock will go way up, but IMO it will go up TOO FAR. I suspect N.E. will add another RB (and it could even be Dillon). I don't think Maroney vaults up to the 300+ carry mark next year. Someone else will split time or serve the role Dillon did last year. More carreies for Maroney, yes. A workhorse workload, probably not. I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

Pretty much agree with all of that, although I do think Maroney has the potential to get an insane amount of TDs...it's tough to project that though. I think double digit TDs is a lock.

both.He'll probably be no more than a two-down back. TDs are a crapshoot. He could have 2 or he could have 20.His nicks last year without being a full-time back are a little disturbing to me. This guy hasn't carried a full load since high school...

 

[David Yudkin]

Rushing TDs are a hard think to gage. In the Belichick era, the pats have had anywhere from 9 rushing TD (which they've had three times) to a high of 20 last year. They did do better once Dillon got there, but IMO it's still not a lock that they will approach 20 rushing TD again.

And I watch the Boston talk tv shows and that's where there's been specualtion about the pats bringing someone else in. Maybe they do, maybe they don't, but they mentioned several times that the Pats had wanted Maroney healthier over the second half of the season and had hoped he would have been more productive in the post-season. That does not mean they think he was a disappointment, only that they had planned on getting more out of him as the year went along and that didn't materialize for one reason or another.

He only averaged 2.8 ypc carry in the post-season. He also only had only 55 carries over the final 8 games (regular and post-season) because he had nagging injuries. The Pats ***MAY*** have been able to win another title this year if Maroney were healthier and more productive in the post-season. Certainly the N.E. running game was not that hot late in the season (93 yards vs IND and 51 vs SD). Obviously you can pin the whole rushing attack struggles on Maroney, but IMO had NE been able to run the ball better they would have been in the SB again.

 

[cscmtp]

just curious, is Maroney (without Dillion of course) good enough to trade away Frank Gore for Maroney and 1.2 rookie pick? 1 pt per reception scoring...

 

[Blackjacks]

just curious, is Maroney (without Dillion of course) good enough to trade away Frank Gore for Maroney and 1.2 rookie pick? 1 pt per reception scoring...

In a second I would take the #2 and Maroney

 

[Sabertooth]

Who is really out there for them that can take a serious bite out of Maroney's production? TJ Duckett? Kevan Barlow?

 

[Gandalf]

Who is really out there for them that can take a serious bite out of Maroney's production? TJ Duckett? Kevan Barlow?

Actually Kevan Barlow seems like a guy the Pats might sign. You know how the Jets and Pats like to swap players. Plus he wouldn't be that expensive. And he could ease some of the burden off of Maroney and Faulk.Is it definite that Heath Evans is gone? I thought he was solid overall.

 

[Couch Potato]

Who is really out there for them that can take a serious bite out of Maroney's production? TJ Duckett? Kevan Barlow?

Actually Kevan Barlow seems like a guy the Pats might sign. You know how the Jets and Pats like to swap players. Plus he wouldn't be that expensive. And he could ease some of the burden off of Maroney and Faulk.Is it definite that Heath Evans is gone? I thought he was solid overall.

No need to bring in a slug like Barlow with a loser attitude when they could re-sign Pass or Evans who know the system. If they bring in a new guy from the outside, it'll be as an upgrade.

 

[Tag]

Who is really out there for them that can take a serious bite out of Maroney's production? TJ Duckett? Kevan Barlow?

These 2 are non factors. I dont know why its so hard to believe that Maroney will be the guy in NE. They drafted him very high for a reason and i doubt it was to share carries for his career. Him and Faulk are more than capable of handling the running duties.

 

[LHUCKS]

I don't know why people are hating on Pass and Faulk...these guys are solid depth.

 

[David Yudkin]

Who is really out there?

Let's not forget that there will be cap casualties soon that may also add to the free agent pool.

 

[Sabertooth]

Any way you slice it, sure feels good to be a Maroney owner even if it's only for today.

 

[Ryan_21]

Maroney's stock will go way up, but IMO it will go up TOO FAR. I suspect N.E. will add another RB (and it could even be Dillon). I don't think Maroney vaults up to the 300+ carry mark next year. Someone else will split time or serve the role Dillon did last year. More carreies for Maroney, yes. A workhorse workload, probably not. I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

Pretty much agree with all of that, although I do think Maroney has the potential to get an insane amount of TDs...it's tough to project that though. I think double digit TDs is a lock.

both.He'll probably be no more than a two-down back. TDs are a crapshoot. He could have 2 or he could have 20.His nicks last year without being a full-time back are a little disturbing to me. This guy hasn't carried a full load since high school...

The guy hasnt carried a full load since high school? Where do you guys come up with this crap? His Junior year at Minnesota he had 281 carries in 11 games. Thats 25.5 carries a game. In that year he had games where he carried the ball 46 times, 43 times, 36 times, he also had games of 26, 26, 25, 21, and 20 carries. If thats not a full load WTF is? As a Sophmore he averaged over 18 carries a game. What more do you want? 50 carries a game?

 

[Bri]

He'll probably be no more than a two-down back. TDs are a crapshoot. He could have 2 or he could have 20.His nicks last year without being a full-time back are a little disturbing to me. This guy hasn't carried a full load since high school...

The guy hasnt carried a full load since high school? Where do you guys come up with this crap? His Junior year at Minnesota he had 281 carries in 11 games. Thats 25.5 carries a game. In that year he had games where he carried the ball 46 times, 43 times, 36 times, he also had games of 26, 26, 25, 21, and 20 carries. If thats not a full load WTF is? As a Sophmore he averaged over 18 carries a game. What more do you want? 50 carries a game?

 

[Sabertooth]

Who is really out there?

Let's not forget that there will be cap casualties soon that may also add to the free agent pool.

So you guys are thinking that a team is going to cut a guy who is good enough to eat into Maroney's production? You don't even have a player in mind and you are having "mystery player to be named later" eating into his touchdowns? I guess that's why this is the offseason.

 

[Sabertooth]

Maroney's stock will go way up, but IMO it will go up TOO FAR. I suspect N.E. will add another RB (and it could even be Dillon). I don't think Maroney vaults up to the 300+ carry mark next year. Someone else will split time or serve the role Dillon did last year. More carreies for Maroney, yes. A workhorse workload, probably not. I would slot Maroney in the RB 15-20 range (redraft) until we knew more of the Pat's backfield picture.

Pretty much agree with all of that, although I do think Maroney has the potential to get an insane amount of TDs...it's tough to project that though. I think double digit TDs is a lock.

both.He'll probably be no more than a two-down back. TDs are a crapshoot. He could have 2 or he could have 20.His nicks last year without being a full-time back are a little disturbing to me. This guy hasn't carried a full load since high school...

The guy hasnt carried a full load since high school? Where do you guys come up with this crap? His Junior year at Minnesota he had 281 carries in 11 games. Thats 25.5 carries a game. In that year he had games where he carried the ball 46 times, 43 times, 36 times, he also had games of 26, 26, 25, 21, and 20 carries. If thats not a full load WTF is? As a Sophmore he averaged over 18 carries a game. What more do you want? 50 carries a game?

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[David Yudkin]

Who is really out there?

Let's not forget that there will be cap casualties soon that may also add to the free agent pool.

So you guys are thinking that a team is going to cut a guy who is good enough to eat into Maroney's production? You don't even have a player in mind and you are having "mystery player to be named later" eating into his touchdowns? I guess that's why this is the offseason.

Not all players are evaluated as "good enough" or "not good enough." Teams keep or cut players by how expensive they are and what their cap hit would be. As I already pointed out, 3 times in the past few years the Pats could not muster more than 9 rushing TD. If they get someone similar to a Morency, Davenport, or similar player that could come in and at the very least spell Maroney that could involve a few TD here or there regardless if they bring in an etched in stone goal line specialist.Maybe the Pats don't bring in anyone else and Maroney gets all the work Dillon, Evans, and Pass got. So we can expect a year with 500 touches, 2500 total yards, and 25+ TD.