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Might make some sense, not sure if this is just a rumor or if Seattle will give up that 1.14...
Do you really think you're going to get a player better than Marshall with the 6th pick though?I think Marshall is pretty underrated around these parts. I know that he's a bit of a headcase, but he's 26 years old with three straight 100+ reception seasons under his belt. The only other WR in the league who can match his combination of youth and production is Larry Fitzgerald. No one would balk if the Seahawks traded the 1.06 for Fitzgerald. The only way this doesn't end up being a good move is if Marshall gets in serious trouble with the league.If it is for the 6th overall pick, horrible horrible deal. If they can work out some other compensation, like the 40th pick and Deion Branch...maybe.
Could be, and if they do and Denver doesn't match the trade basically shaks out to Marshall for Alphonso SmithCould the Hawks not negotiate it to be the 14th pick instead?
Marshall will be making Hasselbeck more comfortable too. The guy can catch the ball any where on the field.Do you really think you're going to get a player better than Marshall with the 6th pick though?I think Marshall is pretty underrated around these parts. I know that he's a bit of a headcase, but he's 26 years old with three straight 100+ reception seasons under his belt. The only other WR in the league who can match his combination of youth and production is Larry Fitzgerald. No one would balk if the Seahawks traded the 1.06 for Fitzgerald.If it is for the 6th overall pick, horrible horrible deal. If they can work out some other compensation, like the 40th pick and Deion Branch...maybe.
The only way this doesn't end up being a good move is if Marshall gets in serious trouble with the league.
I actually I really like Marshall, outside of his character issues. Seattle has SO many needs, and with the potential to draft a franchise QB, LT, DE, S, etc etc, I just don't see the value in trading away the pick. Will that player be better than Marshall immediately? Probably not. But provided they make the right choice, they could have a key franchise player for years to come. Let's not kid ourselves, Seattle isn't anywhere near being a playoff team. Use the picks to rebuild, rather than trying to slap a band-aid on things for a few years. And for what it is worth, the amount of FAs that get signed to a big contract and then stop being productive is to numerous to count, so the whole "proven commodity" doesn't hold a whole lot of weight.Do you really think you're going to get a player better than Marshall with the 6th pick though?I think Marshall is pretty underrated around these parts. I know that he's a bit of a headcase, but he's 26 years old with three straight 100+ reception seasons under his belt. The only other WR in the league who can match his combination of youth and production is Larry Fitzgerald. No one would balk if the Seahawks traded the 1.06 for Fitzgerald. The only way this doesn't end up being a good move is if Marshall gets in serious trouble with the league.If it is for the 6th overall pick, horrible horrible deal. If they can work out some other compensation, like the 40th pick and Deion Branch...maybe.
I think most people assume Marshall WILL get in trouble again. From a pure talent standpoint, you may be right. But, the guy carries other baggage with him.Do you really think you're going to get a player better than Marshall with the 6th pick though?I think Marshall is pretty underrated around these parts. I know that he's a bit of a headcase, but he's 26 years old with three straight 100+ reception seasons under his belt. The only other WR in the league who can match his combination of youth and production is Larry Fitzgerald. No one would balk if the Seahawks traded the 1.06 for Fitzgerald. The only way this doesn't end up being a good move is if Marshall gets in serious trouble with the league.If it is for the 6th overall pick, horrible horrible deal. If they can work out some other compensation, like the 40th pick and Deion Branch...maybe.
He's 26. This isn't a band-aid. It would be a 5-7 year fix at WR (ignoring possible suspensions/jail/etc.). And, it's just one pick, not multiple picks. If they had to give up multiple high picks, I'd agree with you. Hopefully they can get away with the 14 and keep the 6.Use the picks to rebuild, rather than trying to slap a band-aid on things for a few years.
You honestly think that Marshall will be as productive as a franchise QB or LT in 5-7 years? There aren't many 31-33 year old WRs that are the foundation of a team.He's 26. This isn't a band-aid. It would be a 5-7 year fix at WR (ignoring possible suspensions/jail/etc.). And, it's just one pick, not multiple picks. If they had to give up multiple high picks, I'd agree with you. Hopefully they can get away with the 14 and keep the 6.Use the picks to rebuild, rather than trying to slap a band-aid on things for a few years.
It's possible they don't get a franchise QB or LT with that pick. It's a lock they're getting an extremely talented, although troubled, WR.You honestly think that Marshall will be as productive as a franchise QB or LT in 5-7 years? There aren't many 31-33 year old WRs that are the foundation of a team.He's 26. This isn't a band-aid. It would be a 5-7 year fix at WR (ignoring possible suspensions/jail/etc.). And, it's just one pick, not multiple picks. If they had to give up multiple high picks, I'd agree with you. Hopefully they can get away with the 14 and keep the 6.Use the picks to rebuild, rather than trying to slap a band-aid on things for a few years.
Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
isnt' this really old news? I haven't even followed the situation closely but I've heard that before...Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
BSPencil in Clausen.If this happens, pencil in Dez Bryant to Denver at #6.
It's old news that he was involved, but pretty certain it's new information that he was the actual target and the primary instigator.isnt' this really old news? I haven't even followed the situation closely but I've heard that before...Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
Couldn't the Hawks and Denver just agree to a trade then if Seattle would only do it for the 14th pick or less?It would be for the #6 as I believe RFA rules require it to be the first pick of the round designated. Do it Broncos and draft Clausen or Bradford.
That's a broad brush. The guy has been a knucklehead for sure, but a lot of us fans still root for him and would like to see him remain in Denver.Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
I think for that to happen, Denver would have to sign him and then trade him. This is different. If Seattle signs him, I believe they give up whatever the rule says they have to give up.Couldn't the Hawks and Denver just agree to a trade then if Seattle would only do it for the 14th pick?It would be for the #6 as I believe RFA rules require it to be the first pick of the round designated. Do it Broncos and draft Clausen or Bradford.
No way Broncos should accept that. First round only.Denver radio personality Brandon Krisztal thinks Denver would accept a 2nd and 4th for Marshall. I guess the teams can indeed negotiate. I'd do that in a heartbeat.
Are you really comparing the skill set of Brandon Marshall to Deion Branch?This is like Branch 2.0 all over again.
Not my fellow fans or the season ticket holders I talk to.That's a broad brush. The guy has been a knucklehead for sure, but a lot of us fans still root for him and would like to see him remain in Denver.Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
Or something that doesn't involve EITHER pick for that matter.Couldn't the Hawks and Denver just agree to a trade then if Seattle would only do it for the 14th pick or less?It would be for the #6 as I believe RFA rules require it to be the first pick of the round designated. Do it Broncos and draft Clausen or Bradford.
Marshall is more skilled than Branch, but like in the Branch deal they will have to give up a 1 and pay an boatload of dough for a holdout/malcontent that no one else is that interested in taking on.Are you really comparing the skill set of Brandon Marshall to Deion Branch?This is like Branch 2.0 all over again.
RiceMossTOHarrisonWayneWard85MasonDriverHoltSteve SmithMarshall has the talent to be like these guys if he keeps his nose clean.You honestly think that Marshall will be as productive as a franchise QB or LT in 5-7 years? There aren't many 31-33 year old WRs that are the foundation of a team.He's 26. This isn't a band-aid. It would be a 5-7 year fix at WR (ignoring possible suspensions/jail/etc.). And, it's just one pick, not multiple picks. If they had to give up multiple high picks, I'd agree with you. Hopefully they can get away with the 14 and keep the 6.Use the picks to rebuild, rather than trying to slap a band-aid on things for a few years.
Why? No other teams are supposedly interested in dealing for the guy. They basically INVITED teams to come and take him away by putting only a 1st rd tender on him. They won't pay him the big money. He and McDaniels obviously don't get along. I'm also hearing that Denver doesn't want to PAY the money it would take to sign the #6 pick as well.I don't know. I'd do it if it was the #14, no brainer. But I'd crap myself if the deal gets done without Seattle giving up either 1st rounder (this season).No way Broncos should accept that. First round only.Denver radio personality Brandon Krisztal thinks Denver would accept a 2nd and 4th for Marshall. I guess the teams can indeed negotiate. I'd do that in a heartbeat.
Hate to break it to you, but very few of those guys are as important to their team as a QB or a LT. As for Marshall being a guaranteed lock to remain as productive as he is right now, that is just foolish.RiceMossTOHarrisonWayneWard85MasonDriverHoltSteve SmithMarshall has the talent to be like these guys if he keeps his nose clean.You honestly think that Marshall will be as productive as a franchise QB or LT in 5-7 years? There aren't many 31-33 year old WRs that are the foundation of a team.He's 26. This isn't a band-aid. It would be a 5-7 year fix at WR (ignoring possible suspensions/jail/etc.). And, it's just one pick, not multiple picks. If they had to give up multiple high picks, I'd agree with you. Hopefully they can get away with the 14 and keep the 6.Use the picks to rebuild, rather than trying to slap a band-aid on things for a few years.
Coming from who? The same guy that said no team was interested in him only to have to redact his story 30 minutes later?The rest is unsubstantiated rumors.Why? No other teams are supposedly interested in dealing for the guy. They basically INVITED teams to come and take him away by putting only a 1st rd tender on him. They won't pay him the big money. He and McDaniels obviously don't get along. I'm also hearing that Denver doesn't want to PAY the money it would take to sign the #6 pick as well.I don't know. I'd do it if it was the #14, no brainer. But I'd crap myself if the deal gets done without Seattle giving up either 1st rounder (this season).No way Broncos should accept that. First round only.Denver radio personality Brandon Krisztal thinks Denver would accept a 2nd and 4th for Marshall. I guess the teams can indeed negotiate. I'd do that in a heartbeat.
Right, well I'm just saying there are plenty of us Bronco fans and some season ticket holders who still would like to see him stay. I don't think it's a consensus.Not my fellow fans or the season ticket holders I talk to.That's a broad brush. The guy has been a knucklehead for sure, but a lot of us fans still root for him and would like to see him remain in Denver.Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
Yeah, true - we shall see.Coming from who? The same guy that said no team was interested in him only to have to redact his story 30 minutes later?The rest is unsubstantiated rumors.Why? No other teams are supposedly interested in dealing for the guy. They basically INVITED teams to come and take him away by putting only a 1st rd tender on him. They won't pay him the big money. He and McDaniels obviously don't get along. I'm also hearing that Denver doesn't want to PAY the money it would take to sign the #6 pick as well.I don't know. I'd do it if it was the #14, no brainer. But I'd crap myself if the deal gets done without Seattle giving up either 1st rounder (this season).No way Broncos should accept that. First round only.Denver radio personality Brandon Krisztal thinks Denver would accept a 2nd and 4th for Marshall. I guess the teams can indeed negotiate. I'd do that in a heartbeat.
even if that's the case, I don't see how that changes anything. So your drunk on New Years and pick a fight and some thugs open fire with automatic weapons. No matter what he did or didn't do, it doesn't warrant that kind of response so I don't see why it would change anyones perception of the murder.rascal said:It's old news that he was involved, but pretty certain it's new information that he was the actual target and the primary instigator.Banger said:isnt' this really old news? I haven't even followed the situation closely but I've heard that before...rascal said:Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Delusions Of Adequacy said:Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
DW was a very popular guy in Denver.Adding this to his previous problems and for a lot of fans it's the nail on the coffin.even if that's the case, I don't see how that changes anything. So your drunk on New Years and pick a fight and some thugs open fire with automatic weapons. No matter what he did or didn't do, it doesn't warrant that kind of response so I don't see why it would change anyones perception of the murder.rascal said:It's old news that he was involved, but pretty certain it's new information that he was the actual target and the primary instigator.Banger said:isnt' this really old news? I haven't even followed the situation closely but I've heard that before...rascal said:Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Delusions Of Adequacy said:Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
He would be a waste of money. The 'Hawks are not close enough to be SB competitive to use $ on a 30 year old WR.If Seattle wants to add a veteran WR, why don't they make a run at Boldin? Hurts a division rival, costs less and the guy already has a contract for 2010.
Everybody here understands the thugs deserve what the get for killing D. Williams. The point is that if Brandon Marshall had more self control Williams would probably still be alive.even if that's the case, I don't see how that changes anything. So your drunk on New Years and pick a fight and some thugs open fire with automatic weapons. No matter what he did or didn't do, it doesn't warrant that kind of response so I don't see why it would change anyones perception of the murder.rascal said:It's old news that he was involved, but pretty certain it's new information that he was the actual target and the primary instigator.Banger said:isnt' this really old news? I haven't even followed the situation closely but I've heard that before...rascal said:Agreed. It was doubtful before the season started, but with this news coming out there is no way he stays. The fans will ever like him.Delusions Of Adequacy said:Darrent Williams murder trial going on in Denver. Turns out Brandon Marshall instigated the altercation that led the gangsters to shoot Williams; apparently they were trying to kill Marshall. No way Marshall stays on the Broncos in 2010.
Perfect. Next time you are in the UK, allow me to buy you a beerCurry was a stupid pick last year - should have been a OL. Must be this year now that the office knows what we already knew that Walter is finitoI want a tackle at 6 not 14, we can find a punk receiver elsewhereMarshall makes a win-win in ChicagoPabst Blue Ribbon said:Please please not this! Seattle needs to draft OL with their top 3 picks and build a foundation, their line is dogcrap and until they fix that all their skill players are hosed. This is like Branch 2.0 all over again.