Marshawn Lynch (1 Viewer)

[Heckler]

What is going on with the Buffalo running game? Are you starting to get worried about Marshawn Lynch? I just took him in a Dynasty Rookie draft yesterday but his stats have been awful so far...

Give me your thoughts...

By the way, our Dynasty Rookie/Free Agent Draft went like this yesterday. We only have a certain number of roster spots which is why some of this drafting looks goofy.

1) Calvin Johnson

2) Adrian Peterson MIN RB (me)

3) Brandon Jackson (my nemesis)

4) Marshawn Lynch (me)

5) Jerry Porter

6) Joey Galloway

7) Chris Brown

8) Vincent Jackson

9) JaMarcus Russell (me)

10) DJ Hackett

11) Greg Olson

12) Anthony Gonzalez

13) Alex Smith - QB SF

14) James Jones

15) Devery Henderson

16) Dwayne Bowe (me)

17) Matt Schaub

18) Zach Miller

19) Bo Scaife

20) Dwayne Jarrett

21) Robert Meachem

22) Michael Bush

23) Brady Quinn

24) Marcus Pollard

25) Vikings D/ST

26) Eric Johnson

27) Wes Welker

28) Brian Leonard

29) Packers D/ST

30) Adrian Peterson CHI RB

Other Notables: Drew Stanton (#39), Kevin Kolb (#50), Undrafted = J. Beck, T. Edwards, T. Hunt, L. Booker, K. Irons, S. Rice, C. Davis, S. Smith, J. Hill, T. Ginn

 

[Tom Baker]

I'd expect about what McGahee did last year. 1000 yards and half a dozen TDs.

 

[Raiders Fan]

I'd expect about what McGahee did last year. 1000 yards and half a dozen TDs.

Don't think he wll touch it enough to get 1000 yards. I really see him as a platoon partner.

 

[Restricted]

Buf's running game is a very difficult read right now. A-train didn't get any touches against Tenn.

 

[destro]

I'd expect about what McGahee did last year. 1000 yards and half a dozen TDs.

Don't think he wll touch it enough to get 1000 yards. I really see him as a platoon partner.

Platooning, as in RBBC? A-Train and his 3.4ypc isn't going to be getting that much action. Let's not kid ourselves. Nobody in their right mind would want that, and Jauron is probably close enough to his right mind to realize that. Everyone in the NFL knows he is nowhere near starting quality. I have Lynch in one league, and I'm concerned, sure, but I'm not concerned about A-Train. If Lynch fails, it's going to be because he simply doesn't deliver, or his OL and the complimentary passing game is terrible.

 

[MDSkinner]

I'd expect about what McGahee did last year. 1000 yards and half a dozen TDs.

Don't think he wll touch it enough to get 1000 yards. I really see him as a platoon partner.

Platooning, as in RBBC? A-Train and his 3.4ypc isn't going to be getting that much action. Let's not kid ourselves. Nobody in their right mind would want that, and Jauron is probably close enough to his right mind to realize that. Everyone in the NFL knows he is nowhere near starting quality. I have Lynch in one league, and I'm concerned, sure, but I'm not concerned about A-Train. If Lynch fails, it's going to be because he simply doesn't deliver, or his OL and the complimentary passing game is terrible.

The highlighted part is what I am not sure about. Jauron has been a fan of A-train since his Chicago days. Why did they bring him on in the first place, if not to be used in conjunction with the rookie?I hope I am wrong about this one, but I would not bet much on Lynch for this year unless he shows that he is just TOO good to not be an every down back in the NFL.

 

[Less Than Zero]

I have Lynch in one league, and I'm concerned, sure, but I'm not concerned about A-Train. If Lynch fails, it's going to be because he simply doesn't deliver, or his OL and the complimentary passing game is terrible.

Agreed. I worked on moving up into the top 3 picks in a dynasty rookie draft this year, and particularly hammered on getting 1 or 2 because Marshawn Lynch scares me a bit. Not because of A-Train though; I watched McGahee suffer in Buffalo, and I just don't see them improving enough for him to break out any time soon. I think McGahee-type numbers are about what he gets this year, and I'd be really surprised if he surprises -- as a total failure, or as a breakout stud.

 

[LHUCKS]

Buy low on Marshawn.

 

[The Moz]

M. Lynch = JJ Arrington !

I think Arrington averaged like 1 yard a carry in preseason in 05 too !

Thomas is the back to have in buffalo

 

[smapdi]

^ hahahaha you're completely wrong

I live near Buffalo and can tell you that Marshawn will be option #1 out of the gates. He is clearly the best RB on this team and the coaching staff knows that.

A-train will see some carries but you can rest assured, Lynch is #1.

Give this line a few games to jell together and you will start seeing Lynch blow it open.

 

[destro]

I'd expect about what McGahee did last year. 1000 yards and half a dozen TDs.

Don't think he wll touch it enough to get 1000 yards. I really see him as a platoon partner.

Platooning, as in RBBC? A-Train and his 3.4ypc isn't going to be getting that much action. Let's not kid ourselves. Nobody in their right mind would want that, and Jauron is probably close enough to his right mind to realize that. Everyone in the NFL knows he is nowhere near starting quality. I have Lynch in one league, and I'm concerned, sure, but I'm not concerned about A-Train. If Lynch fails, it's going to be because he simply doesn't deliver, or his OL and the complimentary passing game is terrible.

The highlighted part is what I am not sure about. Jauron has been a fan of A-train since his Chicago days. Why did they bring him on in the first place, if not to be used in conjunction with the rookie?I hope I am wrong about this one, but I would not bet much on Lynch for this year unless he shows that he is just TOO good to not be an every down back in the NFL.

He brought A-Train there to be a backup. Towards the end of his run with the Bears, he was mediocre. He got a decent amount of touches last year, and he was real bad - 3.4ypc bad. He's not going to draft a rookie in the first round and then trot that same terrible RB out there again.

M. Lynch = JJ Arrington !

I think Arrington averaged like 1 yard a carry in preseason in 05 too !

Thomas is the back to have in buffalo

Unfortunately, Lynch and Arrington as players have absolutely nothing in common. Having the same alma mater means zero. And if you want to lean so heavily on preseason results, why don't you look at how many carries Thomas has? Thomas isn't a factor in fantasy leagues.

 

[MDSkinner]

I'd expect about what McGahee did last year. 1000 yards and half a dozen TDs.

Don't think he wll touch it enough to get 1000 yards. I really see him as a platoon partner.

Platooning, as in RBBC? A-Train and his 3.4ypc isn't going to be getting that much action. Let's not kid ourselves. Nobody in their right mind would want that, and Jauron is probably close enough to his right mind to realize that. Everyone in the NFL knows he is nowhere near starting quality. I have Lynch in one league, and I'm concerned, sure, but I'm not concerned about A-Train. If Lynch fails, it's going to be because he simply doesn't deliver, or his OL and the complimentary passing game is terrible.

The highlighted part is what I am not sure about. Jauron has been a fan of A-train since his Chicago days. Why did they bring him on in the first place, if not to be used in conjunction with the rookie?I hope I am wrong about this one, but I would not bet much on Lynch for this year unless he shows that he is just TOO good to not be an every down back in the NFL.

He brought A-Train there to be a backup. Towards the end of his run with the Bears, he was mediocre. He got a decent amount of touches last year, and he was real bad - 3.4ypc bad. He's not going to draft a rookie in the first round and then trot that same terrible RB out there again.

M. Lynch = JJ Arrington !

I think Arrington averaged like 1 yard a carry in preseason in 05 too !

Thomas is the back to have in buffalo

Unfortunately, Lynch and Arrington as players have absolutely nothing in common. Having the same alma mater means zero. And if you want to lean so heavily on preseason results, why don't you look at how many carries Thomas has? Thomas isn't a factor in fantasy leagues.

I hope you are right, honestly. I have Marshawn in a couple of leagues and am hoping he pans out nicely. But I have serious doubts about the guy. As a Bears fan I could not agree more with you about A-Train's mediocrity. I am still questioning why Jauron likes the guy, but it seems to me that he does. You may be right, he may just be there to backup Marshawn, but the NFL is a league of copycats. And last year the final 4 teams were all RBBC. And frankly, Marshawn and A-Train seem awfully similar to Addai/Rhodes, Maroney/Dillon, Jones/Benson and Bush/McCallister. I seriously hope that I am wrong and you are right.

 

[Raider Nation]

Color me concerned, if not downright

 

[destro]

I'd expect about what McGahee did last year. 1000 yards and half a dozen TDs.

Don't think he wll touch it enough to get 1000 yards. I really see him as a platoon partner.

Platooning, as in RBBC? A-Train and his 3.4ypc isn't going to be getting that much action. Let's not kid ourselves. Nobody in their right mind would want that, and Jauron is probably close enough to his right mind to realize that. Everyone in the NFL knows he is nowhere near starting quality. I have Lynch in one league, and I'm concerned, sure, but I'm not concerned about A-Train. If Lynch fails, it's going to be because he simply doesn't deliver, or his OL and the complimentary passing game is terrible.

The highlighted part is what I am not sure about. Jauron has been a fan of A-train since his Chicago days. Why did they bring him on in the first place, if not to be used in conjunction with the rookie?I hope I am wrong about this one, but I would not bet much on Lynch for this year unless he shows that he is just TOO good to not be an every down back in the NFL.

He brought A-Train there to be a backup. Towards the end of his run with the Bears, he was mediocre. He got a decent amount of touches last year, and he was real bad - 3.4ypc bad. He's not going to draft a rookie in the first round and then trot that same terrible RB out there again.

M. Lynch = JJ Arrington !

I think Arrington averaged like 1 yard a carry in preseason in 05 too !

Thomas is the back to have in buffalo

Unfortunately, Lynch and Arrington as players have absolutely nothing in common. Having the same alma mater means zero. And if you want to lean so heavily on preseason results, why don't you look at how many carries Thomas has? Thomas isn't a factor in fantasy leagues.

I hope you are right, honestly. I have Marshawn in a couple of leagues and am hoping he pans out nicely. But I have serious doubts about the guy. As a Bears fan I could not agree more with you about A-Train's mediocrity. I am still questioning why Jauron likes the guy, but it seems to me that he does. You may be right, he may just be there to backup Marshawn, but the NFL is a league of copycats. And last year the final 4 teams were all RBBC. And frankly, Marshawn and A-Train seem awfully similar to Addai/Rhodes, Maroney/Dillon, Jones/Benson and Bush/McCallister. I seriously hope that I am wrong and you are right.

Don't get me wrong, Lynch could very well fail. I don't know, and I'm a bit concerned too, just not about A-Train. If Lynch blows, I could see A-Train getting more carries, and it becomes RBBCish, but A-Train will never be the cause of Lynch's lack of touches. He would instead be the effect of poor play.A-Train is also easily the worse than of all those RBs in the RBBCs you mentioned.

 

[MDSkinner]

Don't get me wrong, Lynch could very well fail. I don't know, and I'm a bit concerned too, just not about A-Train. If Lynch blows, I could see A-Train getting more carries, and it becomes RBBCish, but A-Train will never be the cause of Lynch's lack of touches. He would instead be the effect of poor play.A-Train is also easily the worse than of all those RBs in the RBBCs you mentioned.

I completely agree.That same argument can be made for Lynch, however. With A-Train you know what you have (something very mediocre) with Lynch it is all a big question.I would not be at all surprised if the Bills end up doing a very similar thing to the those teams mentioned above and end up utilizing Lynch more at the end of the year than at the beginning (the way Addai, Bush and Maroney were used more heavily).

 

[wegman99]

Watching the game the other night, Lynch did show a few good carries. On the first drive he rammed in to several Titans and just carried them for a few extra yards, and fumbled OOB. He had another good one a little later. He is very strong, and although the vanilla offense looked terrible other than Losman's 2 bombs to Evans, he should be OK. Thomas is the kind of guy who you would say, "OK, I guess we could be in Green Bay's situation" and just accept his 3.4 YPC. All in all, I see about McGahee like numbers but with more catches, 1050 rush, 5 TD, and 40 catches and a TD

 

[Biabreakable]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.

Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

 

[mbuehner]

Doesnt seem like they are playing to Lynch's talents at the moment. If this team wants to be a straight ahead between the tackle rushing team they have the wrong RBs for it. They would be more effective in an Eagles style spread offense.

 

[rawdog]

I know mcGahee had contract issues, but the bottom line is you don't use that high a pick on a RB and not think he's going to be the replacement.

I'm not saying by any stretch he will be Marshall Faulk, but did read the ex-Rams coordiantor Fairchild sees some Faulkesque parts of his game. Word is they've even been splitting him out.

 

[FFdork]

Am I concerned?

Dynasty-wise: not yet.

Redraft: Yes, especially given the pick I would have to spend on him. So far in my real drafts he's gone a lot earlier than I expected.

Basically, from what I've seen of the Bills preseason game, their running game as a whole doesn't look good. Maybe an elite runner would be making something out of nothing, but I think a lot of starting backs around the league would be looking bad if they were in the same spot.

I do like him as a buy low if you know his owner is already down on him.

 

[kensat30]

Buffalo's got a tough schedule this year. That said, Marshawn Lynch is a talented RB and should still perform decently. I don't think there is a chance in hell of a RBBC with the A-Train. The talent levels between those two are like night and day. I'm thinking somewhere around the RB20-25 level in 2007 for Marshawn.

From a dynasty perspective, I do think Lynch has a bright future and shouldn't be drafted based on what he will do this year.

 

[rawdog]

1300 tot-yds & 7 TD's. And bet he has a better second half than first.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

What is going on with the Buffalo running game? Are you starting to get worried about Marshawn Lynch? I just took him in a Dynasty Rookie draft yesterday but his stats have been awful so far...

Give me your thoughts...



By the way, our Dynasty Rookie/Free Agent Draft went like this yesterday. We only have a certain number of roster spots which is why some of this drafting looks goofy.

 

[destro]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

You can't criticize someone's logic when your whole argument is resting on very limited preseason numbers for a 1st round rookie.Thomas has put up a poor YPC for years now, and everyone knows he simply isn't close to starting quality. The rookie is getting his shot.

 

[joffer]

i got concerned when i saw Buffalo's schedule

 

[Biabreakable]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

You can't criticize someone's logic when your whole argument is resting on very limited preseason numbers for a 1st round rookie.Thomas has put up a poor YPC for years now, and everyone knows he simply isn't close to starting quality. The rookie is getting his shot.

I never said Lynch is not going to be given every opportunity to become the lead RB for the Bills. Thats what they drafted him for.The coach however has allready said that they will employ a RBBC. What I do take issue with is people saying that Lynch will become the bell cow or the lead back because Thomas is only average (he did win rookie of the year) when Lynch has not yet shown ANYTHING that indicates he is ready to play at a average RBs level yet.I definitly can criticize someone talking about Thomas's YPC not being good enough to cause a time share with Lynch or even start over Lynch when Lynch's YPC has not been any better than Thomas and has actualy been worse.Small sample size? Yeah he is a rookie. What else should I use as a measurement? His PAC 10 performance? Bottom line Lynch has not shown anything yet and he is going to have to start doing somthing with those carries for him to keep/earn playing time. Not saying he wont still get the chance to do so. But he better get somthing going or he wont get that opportunity for long.

 

[duaneok66]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.

Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

You can't criticize someone's logic when your whole argument is resting on very limited preseason numbers for a 1st round rookie.Thomas has put up a poor YPC for years now, and everyone knows he simply isn't close to starting quality. The rookie is getting his shot.

I never said Lynch is not going to be given every opportunity to become the lead RB for the Bills. Thats what they drafted him for.The coach however has allready said that they will employ a RBBC.

What I do take issue with is people saying that Lynch will become the bell cow or the lead back because Thomas is only average (he did win rookie of the year) when Lynch has not yet shown ANYTHING that indicates he is ready to play at a average RBs level yet.I definitly can criticize someone talking about Thomas's YPC not being good enough to cause a time share with Lynch or even start over Lynch when Lynch's YPC has not been any better than Thomas and has actualy been worse.

Small sample size? Yeah he is a rookie. What else should I use as a measurement? His PAC 10 performance?

Bottom line Lynch has not shown anything yet and he is going to have to start doing somthing with those carries for him to keep/earn playing time. Not saying he wont still get the chance to do so. But he better get somthing going or he wont get that opportunity for long.

excellent post . . .

 

[destro]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

You can't criticize someone's logic when your whole argument is resting on very limited preseason numbers for a 1st round rookie.Thomas has put up a poor YPC for years now, and everyone knows he simply isn't close to starting quality. The rookie is getting his shot.

I never said Lynch is not going to be given every opportunity to become the lead RB for the Bills. Thats what they drafted him for.The coach however has allready said that they will employ a RBBC. What I do take issue with is people saying that Lynch will become the bell cow or the lead back because Thomas is only average (he did win rookie of the year) when Lynch has not yet shown ANYTHING that indicates he is ready to play at a average RBs level yet.I definitly can criticize someone talking about Thomas's YPC not being good enough to cause a time share with Lynch or even start over Lynch when Lynch's YPC has not been any better than Thomas and has actualy been worse.Small sample size? Yeah he is a rookie. What else should I use as a measurement? His PAC 10 performance? Bottom line Lynch has not shown anything yet and he is going to have to start doing somthing with those carries for him to keep/earn playing time. Not saying he wont still get the chance to do so. But he better get somthing going or he wont get that opportunity for long.

This is the same coach who suggested Adrian Peterson was going to be in an RBBC with the very same Anthony Thomas his last year in Chicago. That RBBC lasted about 3 minutes. It's just coach speak. A-Train winning the rookie of the year was a joke, anyways. Yes, the sample size is too small, and it's preseason, which isn't very significant, especially so for a first round pick who is listed as the starter. What measurements do you use? In this case, you don't use any. He did well in college, scouts liked him a lot, he was drafted high, he's listed as the starter - that's what you need to know here. Don't look for data when there isn't any.

 

[JohnnyU]

They said on ESPN today that Lynch has never even seen snow, let along play in it.

Edited to say that O.J. Simpson did pretty good in the snow for a Southern Calif guy.

 

[Biabreakable]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

You can't criticize someone's logic when your whole argument is resting on very limited preseason numbers for a 1st round rookie.Thomas has put up a poor YPC for years now, and everyone knows he simply isn't close to starting quality. The rookie is getting his shot.

I never said Lynch is not going to be given every opportunity to become the lead RB for the Bills. Thats what they drafted him for.The coach however has allready said that they will employ a RBBC. What I do take issue with is people saying that Lynch will become the bell cow or the lead back because Thomas is only average (he did win rookie of the year) when Lynch has not yet shown ANYTHING that indicates he is ready to play at a average RBs level yet.I definitly can criticize someone talking about Thomas's YPC not being good enough to cause a time share with Lynch or even start over Lynch when Lynch's YPC has not been any better than Thomas and has actualy been worse.Small sample size? Yeah he is a rookie. What else should I use as a measurement? His PAC 10 performance? Bottom line Lynch has not shown anything yet and he is going to have to start doing somthing with those carries for him to keep/earn playing time. Not saying he wont still get the chance to do so. But he better get somthing going or he wont get that opportunity for long.

This is the same coach who suggested Adrian Peterson was going to be in an RBBC with the very same Anthony Thomas his last year in Chicago. That RBBC lasted about 3 minutes. It's just coach speak. A-Train winning the rookie of the year was a joke, anyways. Yes, the sample size is too small, and it's preseason, which isn't very significant, especially so for a first round pick who is listed as the starter. What measurements do you use? In this case, you don't use any. He did well in college, scouts liked him a lot, he was drafted high, he's listed as the starter - that's what you need to know here. Don't look for data when there isn't any.

Whatever floats your boat destro.Lynch has looked like crap so far. There are plenty of RBs who have shown more than he has at this point. I am not writing him off yet as its way too early to do that. Maybe the light will turn on for him. But you cannot be excited about what he has done thus far.I did not see Lynch as being clearly head and shoulders above some of the other rookie RB this year and he is not turning out to be. AD was the only elite talent at RB from the 07 draft.Whats funny is you downplay AD and say Chester is good enough to cause RBBC but when it comes to Lynch he can do no wrong. Sorry man but you got the wrong guy here.

 

[JMJ]

Lynch is a talented RB, but he will not do anything this year running behind Buffalo's offensive line against the brutal schedule they have this year.

Seriously, check their opponents. Buffalo's schedule is miserable for RBs.

 

[Raiders Fan]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

You can't criticize someone's logic when your whole argument is resting on very limited preseason numbers for a 1st round rookie.Thomas has put up a poor YPC for years now, and everyone knows he simply isn't close to starting quality. The rookie is getting his shot.

Preseason is all about position battles. He is a rookie playing for time.. So far it looks like RBBC all the way. He has a lot to learn and it is a growing trend for RB's to start off slow. Look at Benson for years. Look at Addai last year. Among others. If you can show me one piece of proof that shows Lynch is going to do more then either split carries or play on 3rd down I would love to see it. His hyping has been from fantasy owners PERIOD.. Sometimes you have to curb your expectations down a bit to reality.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Lynch is over rated, untested in pro level, has bad o-line, Bills have a very hard sch. for RB's. This will be a RBBC for sure.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Why get worried over 9 carries for 9 yards and little to no receiveing yards. He's a stud!

Maybe it wasn't all McGahee's fault, huh? BUF spent a lot of money on their OL and it appears they still can run block.

 

[destro]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

You can't criticize someone's logic when your whole argument is resting on very limited preseason numbers for a 1st round rookie.Thomas has put up a poor YPC for years now, and everyone knows he simply isn't close to starting quality. The rookie is getting his shot.

I never said Lynch is not going to be given every opportunity to become the lead RB for the Bills. Thats what they drafted him for.The coach however has allready said that they will employ a RBBC. What I do take issue with is people saying that Lynch will become the bell cow or the lead back because Thomas is only average (he did win rookie of the year) when Lynch has not yet shown ANYTHING that indicates he is ready to play at a average RBs level yet.I definitly can criticize someone talking about Thomas's YPC not being good enough to cause a time share with Lynch or even start over Lynch when Lynch's YPC has not been any better than Thomas and has actualy been worse.Small sample size? Yeah he is a rookie. What else should I use as a measurement? His PAC 10 performance? Bottom line Lynch has not shown anything yet and he is going to have to start doing somthing with those carries for him to keep/earn playing time. Not saying he wont still get the chance to do so. But he better get somthing going or he wont get that opportunity for long.

This is the same coach who suggested Adrian Peterson was going to be in an RBBC with the very same Anthony Thomas his last year in Chicago. That RBBC lasted about 3 minutes. It's just coach speak. A-Train winning the rookie of the year was a joke, anyways. Yes, the sample size is too small, and it's preseason, which isn't very significant, especially so for a first round pick who is listed as the starter. What measurements do you use? In this case, you don't use any. He did well in college, scouts liked him a lot, he was drafted high, he's listed as the starter - that's what you need to know here. Don't look for data when there isn't any.

Whatever floats your boat destro.Lynch has looked like crap so far. There are plenty of RBs who have shown more than he has at this point. I am not writing him off yet as its way too early to do that. Maybe the light will turn on for him. But you cannot be excited about what he has done thus far.I did not see Lynch as being clearly head and shoulders above some of the other rookie RB this year and he is not turning out to be. AD was the only elite talent at RB from the 07 draft.Whats funny is you downplay AD and say Chester is good enough to cause RBBC but when it comes to Lynch he can do no wrong. Sorry man but you got the wrong guy here.

Keep in mind that I said Lynch may very well fail, and I'm concerned, it's just not because of A-Train's underwhelming presence on the roster. You act here like I'm saying Lynch > AD, and I have never even remotely implied that. WHATEVER FLOATS UR BOAT LOL Come on, don't be that guy.

Preseason is all about position battles. He is a rookie playing for time.. So far it looks like RBBC all the way.

If, as you say, preseason is all about position battles.... why has Lynch gotten all of his 16 carries against the first team? Why has Thomas only had 4 carries?

 

[CalBear]

I don't think it's likely that Lynch gets any less than 60% of the carries in Buffalo. As I said in the player spotlight, I think it's possible (and maybe likely, having looked at the pre-season so far) that Lynch will have some adjustment pains similar to Reggie Bush last year, where early in the season he is still trying to rely on his athleticism and moves too much, against players who are faster and better than he was playing against in college. But, like Bush, I expect him to improve over the course of the season and be effective by the end.

(Note, I'm not comparing Lynch to Bush in terms of style; they are very different runners).

 

[piston pete griffin]

I drafted Lynch and I guess I'm worried that were 8 days from the start of the season and I really don't know much more about him than I did prior to the pre-season. He can't be as bad as it seems so far but I wonder how much better he can get?

 

[Pocket Joker]

I drafted Lynch and I guess I'm worried that were 8 days from the start of the season and I really don't know much more about him than I did prior to the pre-season. He can't be as bad as it seems so far but I wonder how much better he can get?

http://calbears.cstv.com/sports/marshawn/

 

[hacman]

People have to take into account that there has been a recent trend to break in rookie backs (the good ones) in an RBBC. It's not just Lynch; it's Addai, it's Maroney, it's Peterson, it's Bush (though there are different factors with Reggie.)

RBBC helps the rookie backs transition to the longer schedule and helps them deal with hitting the rookie wall.

Lynch is a huge talent and played while he was hurt last year- and played well. These comps to Arrington have got to stop.

 

[zoonation]

RBBC with who?

A-Train?

LMAO.

Baptism by fire for this kid. He will be decent in PPR leagues.

 

[Chaos Commish]

The time to target Lynch may well be after his rookie debacle and all the JJ Arrington comparisons.

 

[Biabreakable]

So let me get this straight. Anthony Thomas's poor YPC is going to be why he isn't a threat to have playing time over Lynch when Lynch has been averaging 1.8 YPC? That's some pretty compelling logic there.Lynch is currently ranked 117 in rushing amoung all players with his 16 carries for 28 yards. There are players who will get cut soon that have played better than him. All Lynch is is a high draft choice rookie RB right now. He hasn't proven a thing.

You can't criticize someone's logic when your whole argument is resting on very limited preseason numbers for a 1st round rookie.Thomas has put up a poor YPC for years now, and everyone knows he simply isn't close to starting quality. The rookie is getting his shot.

I never said Lynch is not going to be given every opportunity to become the lead RB for the Bills. Thats what they drafted him for.The coach however has allready said that they will employ a RBBC. What I do take issue with is people saying that Lynch will become the bell cow or the lead back because Thomas is only average (he did win rookie of the year) when Lynch has not yet shown ANYTHING that indicates he is ready to play at a average RBs level yet.I definitly can criticize someone talking about Thomas's YPC not being good enough to cause a time share with Lynch or even start over Lynch when Lynch's YPC has not been any better than Thomas and has actualy been worse.Small sample size? Yeah he is a rookie. What else should I use as a measurement? His PAC 10 performance? Bottom line Lynch has not shown anything yet and he is going to have to start doing somthing with those carries for him to keep/earn playing time. Not saying he wont still get the chance to do so. But he better get somthing going or he wont get that opportunity for long.

This is the same coach who suggested Adrian Peterson was going to be in an RBBC with the very same Anthony Thomas his last year in Chicago. That RBBC lasted about 3 minutes. It's just coach speak. A-Train winning the rookie of the year was a joke, anyways. Yes, the sample size is too small, and it's preseason, which isn't very significant, especially so for a first round pick who is listed as the starter. What measurements do you use? In this case, you don't use any. He did well in college, scouts liked him a lot, he was drafted high, he's listed as the starter - that's what you need to know here. Don't look for data when there isn't any.

Whatever floats your boat destro.Lynch has looked like crap so far. There are plenty of RBs who have shown more than he has at this point. I am not writing him off yet as its way too early to do that. Maybe the light will turn on for him. But you cannot be excited about what he has done thus far.I did not see Lynch as being clearly head and shoulders above some of the other rookie RB this year and he is not turning out to be. AD was the only elite talent at RB from the 07 draft.Whats funny is you downplay AD and say Chester is good enough to cause RBBC but when it comes to Lynch he can do no wrong. Sorry man but you got the wrong guy here.

Keep in mind that I said Lynch may very well fail, and I'm concerned, it's just not because of A-Train's underwhelming presence on the roster. You act here like I'm saying Lynch > AD, and I have never even remotely implied that. WHATEVER FLOATS UR BOAT LOL Come on, don't be that guy.

Preseason is all about position battles. He is a rookie playing for time.. So far it looks like RBBC all the way.

If, as you say, preseason is all about position battles.... why has Lynch gotten all of his 16 carries against the first team? Why has Thomas only had 4 carries?

Well is it possible that the Bills allready know what they have in Anthony Thomas?Last year Thomas had 107 carries 378 yards 3.5 ypc 2TD 22 catches 139 yards 0TD 1 fumble lost.67 of those carries (62% of his totals) came while Willis was hurt in weeks 12-1411/05 vs. Green Bay 20 carries 95 yards 4.8 ypc 1 TD 1 catch 6 yards11/12 @ Indy 28 carries 109 yards 3.9 ypc 0 catches - strong game but the Colts defense was terrible vs. the run at this point of the season.11/19 @ Houston 19 carries 56 yards 2.9ypc 7 catches 33 yards -not very successful imo but as a fantasy producer not that bad. Willis became healthy and came back as the starter after this week.It seems to me that Thomas wore down. Perhaps he was not in as good of shape as he should be as the back up. I do not think Thomas is special but I can see how he can be used as a in between the tackles runner with COP Lynch in a fairly even time share. We may see other RB such as Jackson rotate through as well.I do not think Thomas is better than a average RB in the NFL but if used properly (as Jauron has done with him before) he can be effective. He did have 2 1000 yard seasons with Jauron before. That does not mean any team wants him to be thier starter. He does not create on his own and is nothing special as a RB.Lynch is going to have to show somthing special however to earn more playing time and he has failed to do that thus far.Of all of the Bills RB I have seen Jackson impressed me the most and I wonder if they wont give him a shot at some point during the season.

 

[trader jake]

Marshawn Lynch, Are you starting to get worried?

If you are expecting big numbers this season I'd be concerned. The Buffalo line, Jauron's man-love for A-Train, and Lynch's own NFL adjustments do not add up to huge fantasy point totals this season. I also support the Reggie Bush adjustment post above (see also Joseph Addai). As his rookie season progresses, so will Marshawn's game. Year 2 is when we see the total package...year 1 expectations should be tempered.

 

[Micon]

J. Addai looked bad and averaged less than 2 yds a carry last preseason and he turned out fine during the regular season. Obviously Indy is a much better offense than Buffalo but its way to early to give up on Lynch. Lynch will get his touches and if Buffalos offense surprises he could put up some big numbers.

 

[Brutis]

From what I've seen I would be more worried as a Lynch owner than a Brandon Jacksons.

 

[schooner44]

Buffalo made some pretty major changes on its O-line from last year until now. They need more time to mesh together and once they do, the running game will benefit. Lynch is being compared to a "Thurman Thomas" like back in Bills training camp and that is a HUGE compliment. Lynch will start slow this year but will be a top 10-15 back in the second half, ranking him 20-25 overall by year's end.

 

[piston pete griffin]

Sounds like I'll be playing Ahman Green week #1 over lynchy but I should keep him on the bench for the second half.

 

[smapdi]

I've been following Bills TC very closely and have heard nothing but good things about Lynch.

He has looked excellent so far in camp running the ball and catching it.

I think most of the ineffectiveness so far has come from the o-line being unfamiliar with each other. In the preseason so far, LT Jason Peters has been the only linemen at his position from last year. There have also been 3 new starters in place during the preseason.

The line will most likely look:

J. Peters - D. Dockery - M.Fowler - D. Preston - L. Walker

That left hand side looks pretty damn good for Lynch to be running through.

The Bills are also fielding the biggest o-line in the NFL which should (not always) help in the run game.

I think Lynch's production could hurt you in the first few games of the season but after that he will be the man. Jauron knows exactly what A-train is and will continue you to use him like that.

 

[CalBear]

The Bills are also fielding the biggest o-line in the NFL which should (not always) help in the run game.

Big linemen tend to be better at pass blocking than run blocking. Denver has a lightweight line. The biggest o-line for the past two years has been Arizona, which has had the worst run game.

 

[wraith5]

Marshawn Lynch, Are you starting to get worried?

If you are expecting big numbers this season I'd be concerned. The Buffalo line, Jauron's man-love for A-Train, and Lynch's own NFL adjustments do not add up to huge fantasy point totals this season. I also support the Reggie Bush adjustment post above (see also Joseph Addai). As his rookie season progresses, so will Marshawn's game. Year 2 is when we see the total package...year 1 expectations should be tempered.

This is correct.