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Martz, Turner, Capers & Tice will all be fired (1 Viewer)

gbill2004

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Not really surprising, Turner is new though:

Rams | Martz out as head coach

Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:28:35 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz will get fired after the 2005 season.

Raiders | Turner out as head coach

Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:28:17 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Oakland Raiders head coach Norv Turner will get fired after the 2005 season.

Texans | Capers out as head coach

Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:28:59 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Houston Texans head coach Dom Capers will get fired after the 2005 season.

Vikings | Tice out as head coach

Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:25:46 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Tice will get fired after the 2005 season.

 
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Going to be a lot of coaching vacancies and not too many good replacements out there. Anyone have a list of solid coaches available? rumored: Al Saunders (completely untested)Greg Williams (above avg prospect but will be picky)Jim Fassell (retread)Pete Carroll (fool if he comes bac to the NFL)Charlie Weiss (will likely wait another few years)

 
Weiss just signed a 10 year extension....some NFL team will have to lay out big cash to buy out his contract. Carroll needs to stay in college...Fassell and Williams are better off as coordinators IMO.

 
I believe weiss and carroll have already signed extentions or declared intent to stay. I wont be surprised if norv lands in houston. Just a hunch though. Either Oakland (most likely) or Minnesota is going to land Martz as the guy knows what he's doing-something that neither previous coach could boast of. Oakland never had a defense to speak of so nothings really changing. Besides, theyve got to get something out of moss seeing as though they paid out of their ### to get him.

 
I believe weiss and carroll have already signed extentions or declared intent to stay. I wont be surprised if norv lands in houston. Just a hunch though. Either Oakland (most likely) or Minnesota is going to land Martz as the guy knows what he's doing-something that neither previous coach could boast of. Oakland never had a defense to speak of so nothings really changing. Besides, theyve got to get something out of moss seeing as though they paid out of their ### to get him.
That contract was a joke and easily escapable. It was a PR move to keep USC recruits, nothing more.
 
Heh I agree this does seem pretty slim pickings. Don't forget there are always ex-coaches who now are commentators (or NASCAR owners), who seem like they will never return to coaching, all of a sudden come out-of-the-blue and return to the sidelines. Recently, Schottenheimer, Gibbs, Parcells and Vermiel have done this.

Among this group currently are:

Jimmy Johnson

Mike Ditka

Sam Wyche? Well, he's QB coach of the Bills:

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:3ae2k5...sam+wyche&hl=en

 
a guy from fired list could be near top of hired list...HC retreadsmike martzjim haslett (if he departs from saints)butch davismooch promising coordinators who have separated themselves from their peersgary kubiak (DEN OC)russ grimm (PIT OL coach) sean payton (DAL OC)cam cameron (SD OC)al saunders (KC OC)brad childress (PHI OC)gregg williams (WAS DC)ron rivera (CHI DC)tim lewis (NYG DC)collegepete carrollkirk ferentz

 
I discussed this in some detail in our weekly Fantasy Roundtable...here is my commentary for those who aren't subscribers:

Jason Wood: There should be a deluge of coaching changes this offseason. We already had confirmation that Brian Billick will remain, but I still see 10 potential vacancies...

* Buffalo -- Mike Mularkey hasn't been there for long, but there are indications that Ralph Wilson is unhappy and that GM Tom Donahoe is getting the boot. Tough to bring in a new GM and not let him bring in his own coach if he so chooses.

* Houston -- Capers and Casserly are dead men walking, we knew that the day Dan Reeves joined as "consultant." Whether Reeves takes the job remains to be seen, but they'll have a new crew in Houston in '06.

* Kansas City -- Vermeil hasn't confirmed plans to stay for '06, and I could see him feeling burnt out, but this move is less certain.

* Oakland -- Norv Turner was a bad hire in the first place, and far from Al Davis' top choice (he was really the only guy who wanted the job). With guys like Gallery and Moss in town now, I believe more young coaches will be willing to roll the dice and take over, much like Jon Gruden did a few years ago.

* Detroit -- The Lions have looked as bad under **** Jauron as they have under Mooch, and Millen has one last chance to get the head coaching position right. You don't hang your professional career on **** Jauron's shoulders.

* Green Bay -- The team has been decimated by injuries, but the play the last month suggests the team has largely given up. Sherman was on tenuous ground anyway having been stripped of his GM duties. New GM Ted Thompson likely wants "his guy" in and has a legitimate excuse to punt Sherman after this debacle of a season.

* Minnesota -- Had Tice pulled off a miracle playoff berth it might have been tough to fire him, but new owner Ziggy Wulf is likely desperate to completely turn the page and that will start with the hiring of his own GM/head coaching tandem.

* New Orleans -- Jim Haslett seems fed up, and frankly his coaching record with New Orleans doesn't suggest he's a "must keep at all costs" guy in the first place.

* Arizona -- Word out of Arizona is that Denny Green is "demanding" substantial raises for many of his assistants, which is coachspeak for "trying to get fired." My instincts say Denny stays for 2006, but it's no slam dunk, particularly if he feels he can land a better job elsewhere.

* St. Louis -- Obviously Joe Vitt is not getting the interim tag removed.

As to which coaches may be in line for HC hires next year, here are some to think about...

* Dan Reeves, Houston "Consultant"

* Mike Martz, Ex-STL HC

* Denny Green, [if released from ARI contract]

* Jim Bates, DC, Green Bay [if GB promotes him]

* Wade Phillips, DC, San Diego [likely in Hou if Reeves takes GM job]

* Gary Kubiak, OC, Denver

* Cam Cameron, OC, San Diego

* Russ Grimm, OL, Pittsburgh

* Jim Fassel, OC, Baltimore [i think he'll campaign hard for Buf and Oakland jobs]

* Al Saunders [Vermeil's choice to replace him in KC]

* Sean Payton, OC, Dallas

* Tim Lewis, DC, New York Giants

* Brad Childress, OC, Philadelphia

* Gregg Williams, DC, Washington

* Mike Trgovac, DC, Carolina

* Ron Rivera, DC, Chicago

* Greg Knapp, OC, Atlanta

* Kirk Ferentz, HC, Iowa U.

With news that Vermeil IS going to retire, and news that Schottenheimer may also be on the outs in San Diego, the picture gets considerably less clear. Despite claims to the contrary, I would think Herman Edwards will be approached, as will other incumbent coaches for either of those jobs [if KC doesn't give the job to Saunders.

 
Going to be a lot of coaching vacancies and not too many good replacements out there. Anyone have a list of solid coaches available?

rumored:

Al Saunders (completely untested)

Greg Williams (above avg prospect but will be picky)

Jim Fassell (retread)

Pete Carroll (fool if he comes bac to the NFL)

Charlie Weiss (will likely wait another few years)
Saunders was a head coache before (sd) so hardly "completely untested".
 
* Buffalo -- Mike Mularkey hasn't been there for long, but there are indications that Ralph Wilson is unhappy and that GM Tom Donahoe is getting the boot. Tough to bring in a new GM and not let him bring in his own coach if he so chooses.

* Houston -- Capers and Casserly are dead men walking, we knew that the day Dan Reeves joined as "consultant." Whether Reeves takes the job remains to be seen, but they'll have a new crew in Houston in '06.

* Kansas City -- Vermeil hasn't confirmed plans to stay for '06, and I could see him feeling burnt out, but this move is less certain.

* Oakland -- Norv Turner was a bad hire in the first place, and far from Al Davis' top choice (he was really the only guy who wanted the job). With guys like Gallery and Moss in town now, I believe more young coaches will be willing to roll the dice and take over, much like Jon Gruden did a few years ago.

* Detroit -- The Lions have looked as bad under **** Jauron as they have under Mooch, and Millen has one last chance to get the head coaching position right. You don't hang your professional career on **** Jauron's shoulders.

* Green Bay -- The team has been decimated by injuries, but the play the last month suggests the team has largely given up. Sherman was on tenuous ground anyway having been stripped of his GM duties. New GM Ted Thompson likely wants "his guy" in and has a legitimate excuse to punt Sherman after this debacle of a season.

* Minnesota -- Had Tice pulled off a miracle playoff berth it might have been tough to fire him, but new owner Ziggy Wulf is likely desperate to completely turn the page and that will start with the hiring of his own GM/head coaching tandem.

* New Orleans -- Jim Haslett seems fed up, and frankly his coaching record with New Orleans doesn't suggest he's a "must keep at all costs" guy in the first place.

* Arizona -- Word out of Arizona is that Denny Green is "demanding" substantial raises for many of his assistants, which is coachspeak for "trying to get fired." My instincts say Denny stays for 2006, but it's no slam dunk, particularly if he feels he can land a better job elsewhere.

* St. Louis -- Obviously Joe Vitt is not getting the interim tag removed.
Vermeil has told his players he's retiring, so he's gone. I'd be quite surprised if Haslett isn't gone (whether he quits or is fired, it doesn't really matter). Denny Green appears to be safe for now. Martz/Vitt are obviously gone. Tice is gone. Turner is gone. Capers is gone. Jauron won't make it. Sherman and Mularkey are question marks, but I think both will be around next year. Edwards I think will be allowed to stick around in NYJ, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he does move on (the popular destination of course being KC).
 
Another college guy who may get his name bounced around is Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia. He's done a great job with that program, but he's a WVU alum, so may turn down the NFL.

 
Anyone think Bill Parcells will retire? He has been pretty unpredictable in the past and when he has left teams, he has left them in a lot of turmoil.

 
I think this one is hilarious, but rumors have been floating around that Tommy Tuberville has been seen around Dallas with Jerry Jones. I don't think there's any chance someone would be dumb enough to hire him in the NFL, but I wouldn't be surprised if his name popped up somehow. Seems like every year he has some sort of association with coaching vacancies and the Auburn University rewards him with a bigger contract and I can't think of any big CFB vacancies opening up this year (unless someone like Carroll leaves for the NFL).Carroll taking a look might have more legs if the NCAA is seriously looking into the program. I highly doubt anything will come of that, so I would imagine Carroll is a safe bet to stay in LA.

 
Pete Carroll cannot possibly be stupid enough to think his amazing college ccess will transfer over to the NFL. Someone in the USC front office will show him "Steve Spurrier's greatest hits" in Washington and he'll immediately stand put.I like Carroll and think he got a raw deal in New England (winning record, two playoff appearances, an AFC East titles, loss of Curtis Martin), but he's not going to have anywhere near the level of success he's experiencing now.

 
Pete Carroll cannot possibly be stupid enough to think his amazing college ccess will transfer over to the NFL. Someone in the USC front office will show him "Steve Spurrier's greatest hits" in Washington and he'll immediately stand put.

I like Carroll and think he got a raw deal in New England (winning record, two playoff appearances, an AFC East titles, loss of Curtis Martin), but he's not going to have anywhere near the level of success he's experiencing now.
He's obviously not a stupid man, but the allure of the NFL is mighty strong. I think that the comparison to Spurrier is not even close to being a valid one. Carroll has a long history of coaching in the NFL, both as a head coach an as an assistant. Spurrier was a fish out of water in the NFL, he didn't seem to car and he certainly didn't perpare.I think that Carroll will come back to the NFL, perhaps this year. If he wins another National Championship, it's a great way to go out, and a great springboard to a huge contract. I could see a hell of a bidding war for his services...

 
Either Oakland (most likely) or Minnesota is going to land Martz as the guy knows what he's doing-something that neither previous coach could boast of. Oakland never had a defense to speak of so nothings really changing. Besides, theyve got to get something out of moss seeing as though they paid out of their ### to get him.
That would probably be a crazy good offense (if they have a qb).Kirk Ferentz is a name that's been thrown out there.

 
KFAN's post-game coverage of the Vikes game just read a media advisory that Mike Tice will not be offered a contract extension and is officially done as head coach. He was informed of this immediately after the game by Zygi and Mark Wilf.

 
The names being thrown out in Minnesota have mainly been defensive minded coaches like Tim Lewis and Greg Williams. Jim Fassel has been mentioned also because he's been linked Wilf. One of the most interesting rumors is that Jack Delrio wants to come to Minnesota and bring his entire coaching staff. Would be awesome for Vikings fans, but I really don't understand why he would quit after his team made it to the playoffs.

 
As to which coaches may be in line for HC hires next year, here are some to think about...

* Cam Cameron, OC, San Diego

With news that Vermeil IS going to retire, and news that Schottenheimer may also be on the outs in San Diego, the picture gets considerably less clear.
Haven't heard any rumors to this effect but the fact Cameron is considered by many as a white hot prospect for a HC position next season I can't help but wonder if that has some bearing on whether or not they keep Marty. Cameron has done an amazing job at transforming that offense while not really spending many draft picks or free agent $ in doing so.
 

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