Marvin Harrison ranking in Dodds top 200 (1 Viewer)

[Dry H]

I was recently browsing through the new Top 200 overall rankings and noticed the ranking of WR Marvin Harrison. He's currently ranked at #109 overall and the #43 WR by Dodds. These rankings came out yesterday after Marvin played in his preseason game over the weekend and looked like he is healthy.

In this same schedule it shows Marvin's ADP of 60 and a "difference" column of negative 49 which shows the difference in where he is going in the draft and Dodds ranking. I am absolutely mystified at this ranking. I can't bridge the gap between a seemingly healthy Harrison and a #43 WR ranking.

Also to add to the discussion, I'd like to add the 5 recievers ranked just higher than Harrison on the list. For what its worth, I wouldn't consider drafting any of these guys in the same rounds of the draft that I'd take Harrison.

Here are the 5 above Marvin:

WR#42 Anthony Gonzalez IND

WR#41 Sidney Rice MIN

WR#40 Isaac Bruce SF

WR#39 Derrick Mason BAL

WR#38 Vincent Jackson SD

More than anything I'm just confused by the ranking. Maybe it is just an old schedule that is dated 8.10.08? Maybe its a misprint?

I'm just looking for a little help here.

 

[BusterTBronco]

It's quite simple really. Marvin Harrison is old, slow, and injury prone. I believe the industry term is "washed up".

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

I agree with the OP on one issue-it will be a cold day in hell when I draft Isaac Bruce over Marvin Harrison.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

ldn't consider drafting any of these guys in the same rounds of the draft that I'd take Harrison.Here are the 5 above Marvin:WR#42 Anthony Gonzalez IND WR#41 Sidney Rice MINWR#40 Isaac Bruce SF WR#39 Derrick Mason BALWR#38 Vincent Jackson SDMore than anything I'm just confused by the ranking. Maybe it is just an old schedule that is dated 8.10.08? Maybe its a misprint?I'm just looking for a little help here.

I would take Harrison before, Bruce, Mason, Rice or Gonzalez and not even think twice about it.

 

[Banger]

I was recently browsing through the new Top 200 overall rankings and noticed the ranking of WR Marvin Harrison. He's currently ranked at #109 overall and the #43 WR by Dodds. These rankings came out yesterday after Marvin played in his preseason game over the weekend and looked like he is healthy.In this same schedule it shows Marvin's ADP of 60 and a "difference" column of negative 49 which shows the difference in where he is going in the draft and Dodds ranking. I am absolutely mystified at this ranking. I can't bridge the gap between a seemingly healthy Harrison and a #43 WR ranking. Also to add to the discussion, I'd like to add the 5 recievers ranked just higher than Harrison on the list. For what its worth, I wouldn't consider drafting any of these guys in the same rounds of the draft that I'd take Harrison.Here are the 5 above Marvin:WR#42 Anthony Gonzalez IND WR#41 Sidney Rice MINWR#40 Isaac Bruce SF WR#39 Derrick Mason BALWR#38 Vincent Jackson SDMore than anything I'm just confused by the ranking. Maybe it is just an old schedule that is dated 8.10.08? Maybe its a misprint?I'm just looking for a little help here.

A lot of people think he's done and/or that his knee may continue to be a problem. He's gold IMO where he's being drafted. I'll try to snag him in every league...even if he busts from there he's not going to ruin your season.

 

[Banger]

It's quite simple really. Marvin Harrison is old, slow, and injury prone. I believe the industry term is "washed up".

The year before he became "washed up" he was the #1 o/all WR. LOL, injury prone. You mean the guy that missed 6 games (prior to last year) in 11 seasons?

 

[BusterTBronco]

It's quite simple really. Marvin Harrison is old, slow, and injury prone. I believe the industry term is "washed up".

The year before he became "washed up" he was the #1 o/all WR. LOL, injury prone. You mean the guy that missed 6 games (prior to last year) in 11 seasons?

(prior to last year) lolYeah, prior to last year he was great! Unfortunately, the year on the calendar is now 2008, not 2006.Marvin Harrison is done.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Gonzalez is falling though and you can likely get Harrison in the 5th/6th and come back in the 8th-10th right now and find Gonzalez...you are locking up a nice WR spot.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I agree with the OP on one issue-it will be a cold day in hell when I draft Isaac Bruce over Marvin Harrison.

Interestingly they're less than two months apart in age, Bruce has more career yards (14,109 vs. 13,944), Harrison holds the edge in catches (1042 vs. 942) and in TDs (123 vs. 84) though. I agree that Harrison is done. He just doesn't realize it yet. His decline is happening and it's fast.

 

[Sylira21]

I am liking Marvin at that position...but I think there is a lot of hesitation on Marvin's "mental" state as well. There were a lot of people upset by how tentatively he played when he came back last year. Did he come back too early, and thus wasn't really himself, resulting in poor performances? Or has he grown mentally old and is now thinking past the game to his future?

I think that's the speculation that is going through a lot of people's heads. However, in every league, I can see someone saying to themselves "Dang, Harrison is worth a chance!"

No way he lasts nearly that long (WR #43) if he stays healthy through the preseason. Someone will inevitably take a chance on him long before that.

But it won't be Mr. Dodds...

 

[Golden]

I just grabbed Marvin. he cost me though. He was similar in price to Laverneus Coles. I will take that. Marvin has much more upside. Worth the upside in imo

 

[simey]

I just grabbed Marvin. he cost me though. He was similar in price to Laverneus Coles. I will take that. Marvin has much more upside. Worth the upside in imo

I don't think Marvin has much more upside than Coles.

 

[PahtyTom]

He caught 3 short passes in the preseason game, but didn't exactly look spry to me. I'd much rather have A-Gonz, and I can get him later in the draft.

 

[tombonneau]

I agree with the OP on one issue-it will be a cold day in hell when I draft Isaac Bruce over Marvin Harrison.

Interestingly they're less than two months apart in age, Bruce has more career yards (14,109 vs. 13,944), Harrison holds the edge in catches (1042 vs. 942) and in TDs (123 vs. 84) though. I agree that Harrison is done. He just doesn't realize it yet. His decline is happening and it's fast.

How did you arrive at this conclusion? He looked like the same old Marvin start of last year before he got hurt. No one has any idea how he is going to look by mid-season this year. He could look great, he could look like a shaky 30-something WR coming off knee surgery. No one knows right now.But to unequivocally state that he is "done" without ever having seen him play any substantial action post-injury seems short-sighted.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I agree with the OP on one issue-it will be a cold day in hell when I draft Isaac Bruce over Marvin Harrison.

Interestingly they're less than two months apart in age, Bruce has more career yards (14,109 vs. 13,944), Harrison holds the edge in catches (1042 vs. 942) and in TDs (123 vs. 84) though. I agree that Harrison is done. He just doesn't realize it yet. His decline is happening and it's fast.

How did you arrive at this conclusion? He looked like the same old Marvin start of last year before he got hurt. No one has any idea how he is going to look by mid-season this year. He could look great, he could look like a shaky 30-something WR coming off knee surgery. No one knows right now.But to unequivocally state that he is "done" without ever having seen him play any substantial action post-injury seems short-sighted.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I agree with the OP on one issue-it will be a cold day in hell when I draft Isaac Bruce over Marvin Harrison.

Interestingly they're less than two months apart in age, Bruce has more career yards (14,109 vs. 13,944), Harrison holds the edge in catches (1042 vs. 942) and in TDs (123 vs. 84) though. I agree that Harrison is done. He just doesn't realize it yet. His decline is happening and it's fast.

How did you arrive at this conclusion? He looked like the same old Marvin start of last year before he got hurt. No one has any idea how he is going to look by mid-season this year. He could look great, he could look like a shaky 30-something WR coming off knee surgery. No one knows right now.But to unequivocally state that he is "done" without ever having seen him play any substantial action post-injury seems short-sighted.

Don't let advancing age, injury, delayed return from that injury, poor performance upon that return, an offseason of conflicting reports and slow return to 'full speed', a so-so preseason game the other night, off the field issues or a young developing player who filled in quite well for him last year as a rookie change your preconceived notion of his return this year. Carry on.

 

[Gbagzz]

I just grabbed Marvin. he cost me though. He was similar in price to Laverneus Coles. I will take that. Marvin has much more upside. Worth the upside in imo

I don't think Marvin has much more upside than Coles.

One of the greatest WR's of all time still catching passes from one of the greatest QB's of all time who together hold the record for most QB/WR TD's and until last season has been the model for consistancy. Someone that was a lock to go in the first 2-3 rounds for years is now going in the 5th and 6th. Harrison still holds the record for most receptions in a season. If we're talking pure upside, meaning best case scenario for a healthy Coles vs best case scenario for a healthy Harrison Coles can't touch him. There's enough to go around for Wayne and Harrison.Considering we're not talking about him being our #1 WR I think that helps. I'd rather take a flyer on a guy on like him then pass on him and have him crush his ADP... and lose to the owner that has him in the playoffs. The only people I can understand passing on him if he is that cheap are people that owned him last season and got burned.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

I want to want him but I am going to wait to hear and see more. He currently is going go in late 5th - mid-6th, not wild-a## long shot type of rounds.

 

[pizzatyme]

Harrison will win a lot of leagues for those that are willing to take him this year. For those saying he is done, what do you have to go on?

All I can say is what I've seen with my own eyes, Harrison is back and healthy. He's quick and fast. He's making cuts without hesitation.

The haters need to find another player to hate. You're going to look awful foolish at season's end on this one!

 

[Franknbeans]

This is a slam dunk. Marvin isn't done and he'll easily out produce the other receivers on that list.

 

[Mister CIA]

What, exactly, was the problem with Marvin's knee last year?

 

[pizzatyme]

What, exactly, was the problem with Marvin's knee last year?

Rolled up on while run-blocking. Ruptured Bursa-sac. Fully healed.

 

[aburt19]

Currently MDC has him at an ADP of 55 and going as ealy as 38. He keeps creeping up the draft boards. If that keeps up, the upside will certainly diminish, if

not disappear.

 

[AB in DC]

Don't let advancing age

He's one year older than T.O.

injury, delayed return from that injury, poor performance upon that return

All irrelevant if he's healthy now.

an offseason of conflicting reports and slow return to 'full speed',

Also irrelevant.

a so-so preseason game the other night,

Plenty of people say he looked very good.

off the field issues

Irrelevant. If he hasn't been charged by now, he won't be.

or a young developing player who filled in quite well for him last year as a rookie change your preconceived notion of his return this year. Carry on.

This is the only concern you listed, but we're not talking about someone drafted as a top-ten or even top-twenty WR.I have seen absolutely no reason to think he is "done".

 

[Tom in Albany]

WR#40 Isaac Bruce SF

 

[LHUCKS]

I like Harrison's value right now...particularly in PPRs.

 

[Gatorman]

Harrison is a product of groupthink at the moment, and will clearly seehis ADP rise as more and more drafts (especially with "Magazine" drafters) start to unfold. His worth, at this point, is as a WR 2 if all his stars align, and with the injury issues and A-gon, he seems to be a little underpriced at the moment.. Can he be a #1 again, sure, but he is the type of WR at this point that you have to grab in the late 5th round or later if you are going to have a sound draft strategy.

Now, if you draft with those not in the know, he will go earlier based on "name". If you think he is worth a 4th or a 5th rounder, fine, have at him, but to me, his upside/downside potential will show itself if I get him at a decent price, and even more so if I set things up to get the Marvin/A-gon handcuff.

I agree with all those above that said the guys going ahead of him are "silly". However, his newest ADP has him at WR #21, and that seems to be a risky spot to get the guy...

IMHO.

 

[AB in DC]

Don't let advancing age

He's one year older than T.O.

I should add that he's a year younger than Joey Galloway. And a lot of people (myself included) thought Galloway was "done" three years ago when he was also recovering from a significant injury in his mid-30s.

 

[bshell27]

This argument sounds familiar, I think I heard it last year. It went something like this:

"Moss is washed up, there is no way that he revives his career in NE. He may see a little production increase, but his injuries and such will continue to nag and he will not produce consistent numbers. He is old and washed up."

THEN

Moss runs away with it. Thank you to everyone who had those thoughts last year. I got him in the 4th and "Championship"

I am not saying that Harrison is poised to come close to that at all, but he will surprise and even though I owned him last year and hold a grudge, I do not take that into the draft room. I will pick him up in the 5th every time! Thank you to all who won't. Keep following the herd and let Harrison drop to the 8th round PLEASE!!!

 

[Yitbos69]

This argument sounds familiar, I think I heard it last year. It went something like this:"Moss is washed up, there is no way that he revives his career in NE. He may see a little production increase, but his injuries and such will continue to nag and he will not produce consistent numbers. He is old and washed up." THEN Moss runs away with it. Thank you to everyone who had those thoughts last year. I got him in the 4th and "Championship"I am not saying that Harrison is poised to come close to that at all, but he will surprise and even though I owned him last year and hold a grudge, I do not take that into the draft room. I will pick him up in the 5th every time! Thank you to all who won't. Keep following the herd and let Harrison drop to the 8th round PLEASE!!!

Harrison is older but if Healthy(and all reports say he is) this guy will be a steal in most drafts(Re-Drafts)... In Dynasty his value in very different. For me unless I am contending this year I would stay away from Harrison unless he really falls

 

[Wu-banger]

was recently able to grab Harrisson as my WR #3 in a 3 start draft due to people being turned off by his perceived being washed up.

I hope this thinking continues until early September.... great value.

 

[tombonneau]

Take from the National Football Post (great daily blog). Nothing but positive news following the last game. Hoping he doesn't creep up too much, but I'm doing a 14-team mock now where he just went 4.01 ...

FROM THE TERRE HAUTE NEWS…Good marks for Harrison — Veteran wide receiver Marvin Harrison got good marks for his performance against the Panthers Saturday night [three catches for 22 yards in limited playing time]. But the best news was that he was able to practice Monday without showing any apparent problems with his knee. “Marvin did a good job. He got open. The third play of the game, it’s going to be a touchdown if we [pass] protect it. He got behind his guy. He caught the ball as it came to him and didn’t have any physical problems. I think he was pleased with [his performance] and we were also,” Dungy said.

This is very good news for the Colts offense. Harrison being able to play will force teams to have to defend the outside quadrant of the field and free the running game for Joseph Addai and the passing game for Dallas Clark. Harrison may never be what he was two to three years ago, but his presence and relationship with Peyton Manning still make him a very viable option in the offense. The Colts need Harrison on the field to have a great offense. If Harrison gets single coverage in man-to-man defense, and can still win those battles, then I expect the ball to be coming to him more this year. With Reggie Wayne getting all the double teams, it might be time for role reversals.