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Kevin Acee had a gut feeling that Mathews was going to play last week, right up until kickoff, well past when other talking heads were saying Mathews would be OUT. I don't know a lot about Acee; he may be a generally reliable source. But I currently lean toward not trusting his gut.
I don't think Acee will ever have inside information about injuries. He'll get the same info as all the other media get. He's reported on the team long enough that he'll have some gut feelings now and then, but that's all they are. Sometimes they'll be right, sometimes they'll be wrong.
And word was Mathews participated in full pre-game warmups despite missing practice all week. Id say his gut feeling was a lot closer to right than wrong.
I would trust Acee's gut over anything Mort or Adam say.This is why I feel Mathews may actually be 100% now. He was probably well enough to go last week if the season were on the line. Now he's gotten a ton of rest. I believe I'm starting him over Tolbert and Michael Bush
Acee is there, going to practices and watching them.
I'm faced with the Mathews/Bush decision, and after going back and forth, I decided on Bush. A couple of reasons:- Mathews is coming off an injury, and he always tends to get nicked up.- Can't get the vision of Tolbert stealing GL carries out of my head.- Bush will almost certainly get more of a workload than Mathews - including GL carries - and S.D.'s run defense is nothing special.I believe I'm starting him over Tolbert and Michael Bush
Completely see your side. I like the more explosive players though. Bush will get plenty of carries and maybe end the night at around 100 yards and a TD. I like Mathews because he can potentially put up close to those stats with one carry or catch.I'm faced with the Mathews/Bush decision, and after going back and forth, I decided on Bush. A couple of reasons:- Mathews is coming off an injury, and he always tends to get nicked up.- Can't get the vision of Tolbert stealing GL carries out of my head.- Bush will almost certainly get more of a workload than Mathews - including GL carries - and S.D.'s run defense is nothing special.I believe I'm starting him over Tolbert and Michael Bush
Oakland's secondary is a mash unit right now from what I've read. I'm not sure they would want to take the ball out of Rivers hands. Why do people think Tolbert gets a greater share of carries now just because he did a good job on Sunday when he was the only one that could go? That's not how it works. If Mathews gives SD the best chance to win, he'll get the ball more.
Your call is pretty easy, IMO. Sit Sproles.
NoCan I possibly sit MJD at the Colts?
It's PPR. That's sitting a stud. Sproles has been huge for me this year. Not sure why people are all of the sudden dropping his value against ATL.Sorry...I know this is Assistant Coach Forum stuff, but I think a number of us are hear trying to suss out probabilities, so hopefully not a nuisance to anybody.
Information I'm learning at this very moment.
Didn't mean to imply you were dropping his value in PPR, as I didn't make that clear, but I've looked at others rankings just out of curiosity and it seems a lot of people have him much lower than usual. Is Atlanta's defense known for shutting down guys like Sproles? As if there really is anybody else who functions like he does in an offense like the Saints? Doesn't add up for me.
He hasn't been irrelevant. In PPR:Tolbert36.30 14.30 7.30 17.807.9011.800.00 - didn't play24.20 - Mathews didn't playMathews14.80 25.6030.9019.9014.2010.5015.20 - Tolbert didn't play0.00 - didn't playI'm leaning towards Mathews at this point. My fear is that he's still not close to 100% and that he's only playing because it's a huge division game with playoff implications and Tolbert is dinged up as well, having just shouldered a full load a few days ago. Tolbert is probably the safer play, but I think Mathews floor isn't low enough to not risk his upside.
Because Rivers has tended to give it away this year. He has 7 ints over the last 3 games. He has 18 TOs for the season, about a 5.5% rate. Tolbert/Mathews have one fumble between them, a rate of 0.5%. Rivers (and really most QBs), is about 10 times more likely to turn the ball over. They aren't likely to fall behind quickly so if they can run, why wouldn't they?
I don't think Tolbert gets more carries than Mathews. But, if they are going to run it 35 times, I don't see them giving Mathews the same % he got before when he is coming off an injury.
Exactly. This isn't a situation of riding the hot hand or having two guys competing for the starting job. They both have defined roles, and as long as both are healthy, they'll be used the same way they have been. Tolbert is not going to push Mathews out of the starting gig. The Chargers drafted Mathews as a #1 for a reason, and nothing he's done this season has given them reason think he's not their featured back for the foreseeable future.
you could argue that every time he has been given the full load he gets hurt, so limiting him to a certain amount of touches can keep him fresh and still get good production from the other back.something like a 60/40 split may be their best option.
Not really. Against the Chiefs in week 3 Mathews had 21 carries to Tolbert's 4 and was fine.
I don't see how that contradicts the assertion that he's the Chargers' featured back.
yes, he was for a game, but it just looks like over the course of a season he breaks down, so i wonder if with this last setback they may go with more of the split instead of the 21 to 4 as you mentioned above.featured back to me means the every down back getting spelled here and there, not like a 60/40.
I am starting both of them in one league and starting Tolbert in another league... Made a big trade. Only had 1 rb Mcgahee, bc of Best/charles/ingram. Had A. brown on bench so traded Aj Green to get Tolbert Now I have brees mcgahee,tolbert,mwallace,julio,a.brown,j.graham, phi, novak. What do you think of the trade. I scored 152 last week with My rb2 slot getting me 1 Isaac redman. Do you think I upgraded.. PPR league.
Never sit sproles in ppr he is avg 20 points game not good advice
I think it's more about a perception that Mathews carries may need to be limted to keep healthy. I am definitley in the camp that they need him to play for his speed and their problems throwing the ball.
R.matthews 20 carries 2 catches
I'm starting them both without confidence!
Im starting matthews WITH confidence!.............that he leaves with an injury. see u guys in the venting thread.
I am right now. Tolbert and Mathews, with Wells, Helu, Ingram, P Thomas on the bench. It's a total crapshoot this week no matter what I do.'TheFootballJesus said:
Doing this. For reference it's over wells and Stewart.'TheFootballJesus said:
Mathews in 7 games509 rushing342 receiving3 td's16 game ave = 1,163 rush/781 rec/6.85 td'sMathews is having a great season, almost a 2k total yard pace.
