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I doubt Sage is putting any ones starting job at risk after today. To the other poster, I own J.T. and Schuab and I will play each as if they are equals and go based on Match ups. I think they are pretty close but Matt has more weapons.Not gonna answer whether Schaub will be better than JT...but instead of starting a new thread I'll askoes anyone have any info about whether Sage's performance puts Schaub's starting spot at risk. Although they lost, the team seemed to respond to Sage quite well. Should I be grabbing Sage as a Schaub owner?
The only reason they lost today was because of a careless fumble by Sage.kawaihae said:Not gonna answer whether Schaub will be better than JT...but instead of starting a new thread I'll ask
Just a careless fumble? Sage was reckless with the ball all game.The only reason they lost today was because of a careless fumble by Sage.kawaihae said:Not gonna answer whether Schaub will be better than JT...but instead of starting a new thread I'll ask
Just sa the one highlight.Just a careless fumble? Sage was reckless with the ball all game.The only reason they lost today was because of a careless fumble by Sage.kawaihae said:Not gonna answer whether Schaub will be better than JT...but instead of starting a new thread I'll ask
Seriously? If anything Schaub's job security just increasedkawaihae said:
Your not kidding.
I'm not so sure. Rosenfels was able to move the ball well, he awakened a sleeping giant in Andre Johnson and he should've won the game, if not for his two turnovers and INT at the end of the game. I am of the belief that you learn more from your mistakes than your successes. Had Rosenfels not fumbled on that crazy John Elway in the Super Bowl-like dive and spin, he would've gotten a first down and likely sealed the Colts fate. I have no problem with him trying to continue the possession there. The other fumble - nobody, not even Goliath himself could've held onto that ball the way Robert Mathis did a Pete Rose-like head first, arms stretched, all out dive into Sage's arm. Now the INT at the end of the game, that's where he needs to learn to be more patient. He had time, he could've chosen a safer pass attempt to move the ball. Getting back to the question, yeah I think HC Kubiak will have a difficult decision to make. Which is the correct decision? We may not know until more mistakes are made.
the "controversy" has come from fans/media, Sage has not been an actual threat to Schaub's job at any point.
Agreed.
I still think its Schaub's job to lose at this point. There is no controversy IMO, until after the next game. If Schaub plays terrible, then the controversy might begin. Sage is a smart guy and will learn from his mistakes. I was at the game and he looked awesome until the last half of the 4th quarter where he tried to do too much....he did accomplish pulling my heart out of my #### though.
Some mistakes? Sage single-handedly gave Indy a victory in a game they completely blew. He had 3 turnovers in the biggest 5 minute comeback win in NFL history. It was an epic meltdown, and in the NFL, that generally guarantees you a spot on the bench.Schaub led a game-tying drive with 1:48 and 1 timeout left, against a better team than Indy the week previous. After throwing 300yds, 3TDs, and 0 INTs. Jacksonville won the coin toss and never gave Houston the ball. Schaub played excellent football and why that didn't silence the QB controversy, I have no idea.AJ could have had a monster day against Jacksonville if not for his drops (two in the end zone), and Jacksonville's pash rush disrupting any long plays. I think all the Sage talk is started by AJ owners...
Let's not pretend like Shaub has been on fire this year... he hasn't been any better than Sage was against Indy outside of one game. Also, like I pointed out... that is after getting all of the practice reps, and being prepared as the starter. Sage did pretty damn well for getting tossed in there last minute, with no reps, and unprepared. I don't think that the coaches are too suprised that mistakes were made under those circumstances, and facing the Colts.As I said... I really don't get involved too much in these QB contraversy debates... because I haven't heard anything from the coaches to suggest that they are looking to make a change.
All I can say is watch the game. Sage blew a 17pt lead in the home opener against a divisional rival on some seriously boneheaded plays, and it only took him 5 minutes. It was an epic meltdown. I would argue it will take a long time before the coaching staff trusts Sage enough to put him back in there unless Schaub is unable to walk.
I think the coaches still have faith in Sage, and I dont think it has anything to do with first team reps. Sage has always been prepared for whatever moment he is brought into the game. Thats what makes him such a solid backup. He made some critical errors that Im sure he won't make again. Schaub is still no doubt the QB and there is no controversy, but Im sure the coaching staff wouldn't think twice about bringing Sage in if the Texans began to falter in the next couple of games.
Now this I agree with. I don't think there's any way Sage plays if Schaub is healthy - but for what Sage would cost after this weekend's debacle - you'd be crazy as a Schaub owner to not acquire him.
I agree to a certain point. The next couple of games should be solid for the Houston offense, keyword is should, but they have alot of tough games starting week 9 against Minny and on. Some good matchups sprinkled here and there, but not alot. I think as long as Schaub doesn't have a complete meltdown, then there is nothing to look out for. Sage did play a fantastic 3 1/2 quarters, but he didn't win, and believe me, thats all the coaching, management, and especially the fans want here in Houston.
Id get him only if you have a useless roster space. I wouldn't go nuts trying to get him at this point.
I really would strongly disagree. Indy scored on their first two posessions of the game and Houston went 3 and out on their first posession.Houston had 2 1/2 very good quarters. But during that time, I was just as impressed with the D completely shutting Indy down as I was with Sage.
