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Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
IF you believe in him, then that's as good as it gets in FF. You'll be able to really stock up on talent at other positions, and if he gives you, I dunno, 3750/25 or whatever, you'll crush.
Worth the risk? Probably. What's the worst that can happen? Your FF team sucks for a year?
Go for it.
Worth the risk? Probably. What's the worst that can happen? Your FF team sucks for a year?
Go for it.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I'm thinking something similar, though my pool of acceptable gambles includes a few more guys.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I think the really smart move is to grab someone more certain to produce as QB1 in round 8 or 9 and Stafford as your QB2 in round 11.
steelcityman
Footballguy
I would like him as my QB2 for sure. I still need to see him play more, use his weapons and the Lions win a bit more.
jurb26
Footballguy
His Oline. Everything else is there.
Was wondering what others thought about him. I have gotten him in every mock I have done (10 teams) in the 10-12 round. I think he is obviously a QB 2, but the shark move might be to get one of the elite 6 (I don't put Rivers in there) and then grab Stafford late for insurance/possible upside trading.
Watch the highlights of the game where he separated the shoulder and you'll have a man crush on him, too. That was sick. I know it's against the Browns, but still.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-...afford-mic-d-up
Watch the highlights of the game where he separated the shoulder and you'll have a man crush on him, too. That was sick. I know it's against the Browns, but still.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-...afford-mic-d-up
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I really don't get what people see in Stafford. The guy has the exact same problems he had when he was a freshman at Georgia, and none of them have improved at all. If they haven't even mildly improved in that span of time, what makes anyone think they're going to greatly improve overnight?
Bad accuracy.
A complete lack of touch.
Poor decision making.
I see absolutely nothing in Matt Stafford to differentiate him from Kyle Boller.
Bad accuracy.
A complete lack of touch.
Poor decision making.
I see absolutely nothing in Matt Stafford to differentiate him from Kyle Boller.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
I'm rolling with Stafford and Vince Young this year. It's only 4 pts per TD passing, so i don't need them to be lights out, just quality. This will allow me to load up on other positions. We start 2 rb,3 wr,1 te, 1 flex, so I need lots of players.
jurb26
Footballguy
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
I'm a Lions fan and I approve this message.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Probably the worst post I have seen in this forum.
jurb26
Footballguy
FreeBaGel has been trying to spew this stuff about Stafford for a few years now. Stafford must have beat him up as a kid or something.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
McNabb suffers from the same problems you list but that hasn't stopped him from being an absolute FF stud or getting to a Superbowl. I'm not saying the Lions are going to the Superbowl, but they are going in the right direction. I'll still take Stafford over Sanchez and this year's rookie crop.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Mcnabb certainly has his accuracy issues, but Stafford's touch and decision making aren't even in the same realm as Mcnabb's. The best thing Stafford has going for him is that he's going to get the opportunity to throw a ton of passes against defenses that aren't even trying anymore.
Unlucky
Phenom
I will say that I've been less than impressed with Stafford's touch on some fade patterns near the goal line. Just doesn't put any air under the ball to allow Calvin to go up and get it. Did this twice vs. Steelers.
Stafford makes a nice upside #2 QB, but I'd want someone like Kolb or Favre or Ben paired with him - not a Vince Young or Alex Smith type.
Stafford makes a nice upside #2 QB, but I'd want someone like Kolb or Favre or Ben paired with him - not a Vince Young or Alex Smith type.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
that's the dumbest idea I've ever heard.REALLY I KID I LOVE IT BUT SHUT UP KEEP HIM IN ROUND9
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Clifford
Footballguy
Stafford improved every year he was at UGA. I wasn't his biggest fan when he was there but even I have to admit that much. Not drawing that from stats, from watching games.I think he has tremendous upside this year, kinda like Schaub last year, but more of a risk.Someone jumps up almost every year. 2010 is his year.
gnarboots11
Footballguy
He's my only QB in a 14 team league and I drafted him with one of my last picks. I kept getting sniped on QB picks forcing me to hold off and actually my teams pretty solid and I am fine with Stafford as my QB. I could allways just pick up Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Dixon or any other emerging QB which is bound to happen at some point this season. I really like the way Stafford looks and I love all the weapons on that Detroit team, he's worth the upside risk in my opion.
jerseydevil20
Footballguy
I'm not sure I've got the guts to do it, but there's a chance Stafford could be a nice high end QB2 which is fantastic given his price. The mic'd up highlights of the game vs. Clev last year are amazing. He has the support of everybody in Detroit, a nice young core of talent around him, and good talent himself. He could be special this year. Making the right call here could pay off bigtime...
I like Stafford, but I wouldnt draft him as a QB1. He is a year away from that.
you should Draft him as a QB2 and if he gives you QB1 production you consider it a bonus.
it usually takes a QB 3 years to get to a point where he is playing close to his potential and this kid is no different. I hope he does well, but to expect him to put up top 10 numbers is a stretch for almost any second year QB.
you should Draft him as a QB2 and if he gives you QB1 production you consider it a bonus.
it usually takes a QB 3 years to get to a point where he is playing close to his potential and this kid is no different. I hope he does well, but to expect him to put up top 10 numbers is a stretch for almost any second year QB.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
It's not really all that big a stretch. Naturally, it's no slam dunk, but among current QB's who were really high draft picks, Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb, and Michael Vick all had Pro Bowl seasons in year two, and though I don't have the year end fantasy results handy, I'd wager a pretty penny all were top 10.Obviously, there are plenty of counter examples, too. But I think for a talented QB who is going to make it in this league, year two is about when you hope to start seeing top end results.At any rate, it's really not all that rare.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not sure anyone is suggesting you draft him as a QB1; no need to really, he can be had in the late middle (9th-10th) rounds.
I think he is an ideal QB2 in redrafts this year; the potential and the weapons are there. He doesn't warrant a high pick, but he's a good value.
As for the criticism above...touch has always been an issue with him, and I suspect always will be. He's got a cannon and usually chucks it at one speed (really, really effing hard). As for accuracy
he has been sharp as a tack all preseason, but we'll see if that translates to the regular season. Ditto on his decision making, which seems much better. ASIDE - isn't the latter an issue with virtually all young QBs?
The defensive secondary of the Lions is still pretty awful, so I think the situation is good from a FF perspective. Good weapons around him. Lot to like about the kid this year.
I think he is an ideal QB2 in redrafts this year; the potential and the weapons are there. He doesn't warrant a high pick, but he's a good value.
As for the criticism above...touch has always been an issue with him, and I suspect always will be. He's got a cannon and usually chucks it at one speed (really, really effing hard). As for accuracy
he has been sharp as a tack all preseason, but we'll see if that translates to the regular season. Ditto on his decision making, which seems much better. ASIDE - isn't the latter an issue with virtually all young QBs?The defensive secondary of the Lions is still pretty awful, so I think the situation is good from a FF perspective. Good weapons around him. Lot to like about the kid this year.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Not sure anyone is suggesting you draft him as a QB1; no need to really, he can be had in the late middle (9th-10th) rounds.I think he is an ideal QB2 in redrafts this year; the potential and the weapons are there. He doesn't warrant a high pick, but he's a good value.As for the criticism above...touch has always been an issue with him, and I suspect always will be. He's got a cannon and usually chucks it at one speed (really, really effing hard). As for accuracyhe has been sharp as a tack all preseason, but we'll see if that translates to the regular season. Ditto on his decision making, which seems much better. ASIDE - isn't the latter an issue with virtually all young QBs?The defensive secondary of the Lions is still pretty awful, so I think the situation is good from a FF perspective. Good weapons around him. Lot to like about the kid this year.
I pretty much agree with this. Stafford has great upside, possibly this year, but I'm not sure I'd want to count on him just yet. Also. his decision making has not only been much better, it has been much faster. Stafford is not taking a lot of time to go through his progressions in many cases. He seems to have a complete grasp of the offense. That, along with his quick release, added weapons, and modest improvement in the offensive line should reduce sacks and give Stafford a better chance to make more plays.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
I'm expecting big things this year. Took him as my #3 QB behind Cutler, Roethlisberger. Secretly hoping he'll be my starter all year. I really like what I've seen so far in the preseason. He seems to finally understand when to check down or just throw the ball away and not make a terrible throw into coverage. That endzone fade to the fake Johnson was a pretty pass as well.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Carson Palmer had 32TD's in year 2.
If you think Stafford is the real deal than there is no reason not to believe he won't perform well this year.He has tons of weapons on offence AND he will be forced to play catch up most games.
Detroit will either be an 8-8 team or a 6-10 team. They will be in every game and Stafford will have every opp to show he has progressed.
If you think Stafford is the real deal than there is no reason not to believe he won't perform well this year.He has tons of weapons on offence AND he will be forced to play catch up most games.
Detroit will either be an 8-8 team or a 6-10 team. They will be in every game and Stafford will have every opp to show he has progressed.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I went to a couple of Lions pratices last year and this year. Stafford is 100% better than he was last season...he looks like a totally different QB. Much calmer in the pocket, better decision making and his arm reminds me of a young
John Elway.
Will that translate into a solid season? I think so. I am looking for a 24-28 TD season out of Stafford this year.
John Elway.
Will that translate into a solid season? I think so. I am looking for a 24-28 TD season out of Stafford this year.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I think AB has touched on an important point here, and one I keep reading about every week - Stafford has become really good at getting the ball out quick. Yeah, he's always had a quick release, but I think what we are seeing is a QB who is getting more comfortable in trusting his reads.We here it every year about QBs who are maturing: the game has slowed down for him.Anthony Borbely said:BobbyLayne said:Not sure anyone is suggesting you draft him as a QB1; no need to really, he can be had in the late middle (9th-10th) rounds.I think he is an ideal QB2 in redrafts this year; the potential and the weapons are there. He doesn't warrant a high pick, but he's a good value.As for the criticism above...touch has always been an issue with him, and I suspect always will be. He's got a cannon and usually chucks it at one speed (really, really effing hard). As for accuracyhe has been sharp as a tack all preseason, but we'll see if that translates to the regular season. Ditto on his decision making, which seems much better. ASIDE - isn't the latter an issue with virtually all young QBs?The defensive secondary of the Lions is still pretty awful, so I think the situation is good from a FF perspective. Good weapons around him. Lot to like about the kid this year.
I pretty much agree with this. Stafford has great upside, possibly this year, but I'm not sure I'd want to count on him just yet. Also. his decision making has not only been much better, it has been much faster. Stafford is not taking a lot of time to go through his progressions in many cases. He seems to have a complete grasp of the offense. That, along with his quick release, added weapons, and modest improvement in the offensive line should reduce sacks and give Stafford a better chance to make more plays.
jurb26
Footballguy
Stafford looks to have taken a huge jump this year based on what he's done in the preseason (and off-season reports). I'm not sure if it will translate in the regular season but he looks like a potential top 15 QB IMO. I still have great concerns with the Oline in Det holding him and the entire offense back. I agree with the folks saying he is getting ride of the ball much faster this year. This is the greatest reason for optimism. If Stafford can continue to make his reads as quickly as his has been then that will minimize any ill effects of the Oline. I've been certain for years that Stafford would eventually become a stud in the NFL. I don't know if that time will be this year. I'd place it as a 50/50 chance right now. I think he will be no later than next year though. For those wondering about his value, I did a draft yesterday and took him in round 11 (11.02 pick to be exact) as my QB2. I am going with a M. Ryan/M. Stafford QBBC pair this year.
Clifford
Footballguy
How many QBs have had a 400+ yard performance their rookie year? 5. Unfortunately, this is hardly a list of champions:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tiny/mUXVA
Bulger, Brooks, Garcia, Stafford, Leinart :X
He is the only rookie QB to pass for five TDs since 1960.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tiny/mUXVA
Bulger, Brooks, Garcia, Stafford, Leinart :X
He is the only rookie QB to pass for five TDs since 1960.
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