MBIII (1 Viewer)

[richn]

I am dropping Barber tonight on waivers in my 12 man league for one of the following in order:Felix Jones (There because I dropped him last week for Fred Jackson) oof!Beanie WellsKenny BrittMichael CrabtreeMichael Bushhopefully Jerry Jones doesnt screw around and make Barber the lead back next week and make me live to regret it yet again.

12 teamer, I'm surprised no one picked up Bush to get ALL the carries when McFadden went down.

 

[Breesisdaman]

I am dropping Barber tonight on waivers in my 12 man league for one of the following in order:Felix Jones (There because I dropped him last week for Fred Jackson) oof!Beanie WellsKenny BrittMichael CrabtreeMichael Bushhopefully Jerry Jones doesnt screw around and make Barber the lead back next week and make me live to regret it yet again.

12 teamer, I'm surprised no one picked up Bush to get ALL the carries when McFadden went down.

yeah at least in the short term you would expect that in a 12 man league. I heard McFadden was back at practice today or Bush would probably be higher on my list.

 

[richn]

I am dropping Barber tonight on waivers in my 12 man league for one of the following in order:Felix Jones (There because I dropped him last week for Fred Jackson) oof!Beanie WellsKenny BrittMichael CrabtreeMichael Bushhopefully Jerry Jones doesnt screw around and make Barber the lead back next week and make me live to regret it yet again.

12 teamer, I'm surprised no one picked up Bush to get ALL the carries when McFadden went down.

yeah at least in the short term you would expect that in a 12 man league. I heard McFadden was back at practice today or Bush would probably be higher on my list.

I think bush is the bell cow again this week, just opinion. if he goes off again, he continue to get the majority of the carries. DMC is fragile.

 

[mattyjets]

I own Choice and Barber in a dynasty league. Choice has the better odds to start somewhere in 2011. I will keep Barber for 2-3 more weeks - if he continues to play Robin to Felix's Batman then I will drop him . . .

You would drop Barber in a dynasty league? Wow, I really f'd up taking this guy last year in the top 40.

 

[duaneok66]

I own Choice and Barber in a dynasty league. Choice has the better odds to start somewhere in 2011. I will keep Barber for 2-3 more weeks - if he continues to play Robin to Felix's Batman then I will drop him . . .

You would drop Barber in a dynasty league? Wow, I really f'd up taking this guy last year in the top 40.

why keep him? His only chance is to get a starting gig with a team with no RB now (Green Bay, maybe cleveland, maybe denver, maybe the pats) . . . no real place to go for a will be 28 year old RB that has (allegedly) lost a step . . .

 

[buster c]

MBIII is cooked and has been for over a year. drop him in all formats - take a flyer on a RB with potential to run the ball with success

 

[Topes]

I am dropping Barber tonight on waivers in my 12 man league for one of the following in order:Felix Jones (There because I dropped him last week for Fred Jackson) oof!Beanie WellsKenny BrittMichael CrabtreeMichael Bushhopefully Jerry Jones doesnt screw around and make Barber the lead back next week and make me live to regret it yet again.

12 teamer, I'm surprised no one picked up Bush to get ALL the carries when McFadden went down.

In a 12-team league with 14-player rosters, players like Bush are often available. All depends on depth of league.

 

[GManiac]

MBIII is cooked and has been for over a year. drop him in all formats - take a flyer on a RB with potential to run the ball with success

I dont think its MB3 is cooked. I just don't think he has much of a place on that team anymore. He could still be successful somewhere else IMO. Think GB would be perfect but doubt he gets moved.

 

[switz]

MBIII is cooked and has been for over a year. drop him in all formats - take a flyer on a RB with potential to run the ball with success

I dont think its MB3 is cooked. I just don't think he has much of a place on that team anymore. He could still be successful somewhere else IMO. Think GB would be perfect but doubt he gets moved.

Dallas has done everything it could for three years to feature Barber. They WANT him to have a place on the team, they WANT him to be THE guy, and Felix to be the COP only.But the bottom line is, for three years Barber has worn down and gotten lingering injuries each season, and is now just not an effective RB. He and Jones have the same amount of touches, and Jones has generated 100 more yards. Barber's YPC is 3 something, he's just not good.Barber was successful because he played with such intensity that it overcame his physical shortcomings. But now that his body can't hold up under that intensity, he's unable to be productive. Look at the number of times he got stuffed at the one last year. Or the short yardage carries he failed to convert.He'll have a place on the team, but moving forward it looks like it'll be the place he had when Julius Jones was here, except perhaps even more limited. Closer in the 4th when the Cowboys have a lead, and some third down plays.

 

[the spanker]

MBIII is cooked and has been for over a year. drop him in all formats - take a flyer on a RB with potential to run the ball with success

I dont think its MB3 is cooked. I just don't think he has much of a place on that team anymore. He could still be successful somewhere else IMO. Think GB would be perfect but doubt he gets moved.

Dallas has done everything it could for three years to feature Barber. They WANT him to have a place on the team, they WANT him to be THE guy, and Felix to be the COP only.But the bottom line is, for three years Barber has worn down and gotten lingering injuries each season, and is now just not an effective RB. He and Jones have the same amount of touches, and Jones has generated 100 more yards. Barber's YPC is 3 something, he's just not good.Barber was successful because he played with such intensity that it overcame his physical shortcomings. But now that his body can't hold up under that intensity, he's unable to be productive. Look at the number of times he got stuffed at the one last year. Or the short yardage carries he failed to convert.He'll have a place on the team, but moving forward it looks like it'll be the place he had when Julius Jones was here, except perhaps even more limited. Closer in the 4th when the Cowboys have a lead, and some third down plays.

Just say it Switz. In other words he's cooked!

 

[packersfan]

I think he's fallen into the Jacobs/McGahee group as long as Jones is healthy. In other words, a backup (I know he's technically the "starter" but Jones is the lead guy now) who gets 6-10 carries a game with a decent chance to score a TD most weeks. So for me, it depends on how you view guys like Jacobs and McGahee. If they are players you would roster then keeping Barber is advisable. If you're in a league where RBs like that don't have much value then you can probably drop Barber if a more productive option is available on the WW. The main reason I see to hold Barber is because Jones has major durability concerns and it's not a guarantee he'll hold up getting close to 20 touches a game. But again, I think he's fallen into the Jacobs/McGahee range among RBs so how you view them may determine what your approach with Barber is going to be.

 

[red]

MBIII is the goalline guy and (historically) the 4th quarter, grind out the clock guy. we haven't seen any sort of running game from DAL yet, except for a relatively good performance by Felix last week where he got 2:1 in touches.

i think the the ceiling on MBIII on any given week is probably around 50 yards and a TD and his floor more consistently around 5-10 carries for 20 yards.

i don't know why DAL is su(cking so bad this year, but panic has set in on an organization that was supposed to go to the superbowl at home this year. i'm wondering that if the running game doesn't turn around with it's current use (i.e. felix getting 2:1 touches here on out), will they try to jump start the engine with Choice? they gotta do something if MBIII and felix are underperforming...

 

[switz]

MBIII is the goalline guy and (historically) the 4th quarter, grind out the clock guy. we haven't seen any sort of running game from DAL yet, except for a relatively good performance by Felix last week where he got 2:1 in touches.i think the the ceiling on MBIII on any given week is probably around 50 yards and a TD and his floor more consistently around 5-10 carries for 20 yards. i don't know why DAL is su(cking so bad this year, but panic has set in on an organization that was supposed to go to the superbowl at home this year. i'm wondering that if the running game doesn't turn around with it's current use (i.e. felix getting 2:1 touches here on out), will they try to jump start the engine with Choice? they gotta do something if MBIII and felix are underperforming...

I think the running game DID turn around with them featuring Jones, don't you? Do you really think Felix is underperforming?- do you own Choice perhaps?

 

[red]

MBIII is the goalline guy and (historically) the 4th quarter, grind out the clock guy. we haven't seen any sort of running game from DAL yet, except for a relatively good performance by Felix last week where he got 2:1 in touches.i think the the ceiling on MBIII on any given week is probably around 50 yards and a TD and his floor more consistently around 5-10 carries for 20 yards. i don't know why DAL is su(cking so bad this year, but panic has set in on an organization that was supposed to go to the superbowl at home this year. i'm wondering that if the running game doesn't turn around with it's current use (i.e. felix getting 2:1 touches here on out), will they try to jump start the engine with Choice? they gotta do something if MBIII and felix are underperforming...

I think the running game DID turn around with them featuring Jones, don't you? Do you really think Felix is underperforming?- do you own Choice perhaps?

i said "if" the running game doesn't turn around. we've had one game to evaluate so far, and, yes, felix performed well. if it continues, then i see the felix: barber(+choice) ratio staying at 2:1. if felix starts to tank, THEN i wonder if tashard is the next progression.

 

[switz]

MBIII is the goalline guy and (historically) the 4th quarter, grind out the clock guy. we haven't seen any sort of running game from DAL yet, except for a relatively good performance by Felix last week where he got 2:1 in touches.i think the the ceiling on MBIII on any given week is probably around 50 yards and a TD and his floor more consistently around 5-10 carries for 20 yards. i don't know why DAL is su(cking so bad this year, but panic has set in on an organization that was supposed to go to the superbowl at home this year. i'm wondering that if the running game doesn't turn around with it's current use (i.e. felix getting 2:1 touches here on out), will they try to jump start the engine with Choice? they gotta do something if MBIII and felix are underperforming...

I think the running game DID turn around with them featuring Jones, don't you? Do you really think Felix is underperforming?- do you own Choice perhaps?

i said "if" the running game doesn't turn around. we've had one game to evaluate so far, and, yes, felix performed well. if it continues, then i see the felix: barber(+choice) ratio staying at 2:1. if felix starts to tank, THEN i wonder if tashard is the next progression.

Ah, then I would say that yeah, that would be the likely next step.From what I've seen of the Cowboys though, they tend to be stubborn about their decisions, and loyal to a fault. So barring injury, I wouldn't hold my breath for Choice to see a lot of work. Of course, injury is always a possibility with any RB...

 

[ourmanflint]

MBIII is cooked and has been for over a year. drop him in all formats - take a flyer on a RB with potential to run the ball with success

I dont think its MB3 is cooked. I just don't think he has much of a place on that team anymore. He could still be successful somewhere else IMO. Think GB would be perfect but doubt he gets moved.

Dallas has done everything it could for three years to feature Barber. They WANT him to have a place on the team, they WANT him to be THE guy, and Felix to be the COP only.But the bottom line is, for three years Barber has worn down and gotten lingering injuries each season, and is now just not an effective RB. He and Jones have the same amount of touches, and Jones has generated 100 more yards. Barber's YPC is 3 something, he's just not good.

Barber was successful because he played with such intensity that it overcame his physical shortcomings. But now that his body can't hold up under that intensity, he's unable to be productive. Look at the number of times he got stuffed at the one last year. Or the short yardage carries he failed to convert.

He'll have a place on the team, but moving forward it looks like it'll be the place he had when Julius Jones was here, except perhaps even more limited. Closer in the 4th when the Cowboys have a lead, and some third down plays.

In other words they want a closer who is just not good and is not an effective RB? Why use him at all if he sucks so bad?

 

[Clifford]

OK, here's a question. I currently own Gore, Best, BJGE, and Barber at RB. Should Barber be dropped for Kevin Smith or Anthony Dixon so I at least have my own backup rather than someone else's?

 

[switz]

MBIII is cooked and has been for over a year. drop him in all formats - take a flyer on a RB with potential to run the ball with success

I dont think its MB3 is cooked. I just don't think he has much of a place on that team anymore. He could still be successful somewhere else IMO. Think GB would be perfect but doubt he gets moved.

Dallas has done everything it could for three years to feature Barber. They WANT him to have a place on the team, they WANT him to be THE guy, and Felix to be the COP only.But the bottom line is, for three years Barber has worn down and gotten lingering injuries each season, and is now just not an effective RB. He and Jones have the same amount of touches, and Jones has generated 100 more yards. Barber's YPC is 3 something, he's just not good.

Barber was successful because he played with such intensity that it overcame his physical shortcomings. But now that his body can't hold up under that intensity, he's unable to be productive. Look at the number of times he got stuffed at the one last year. Or the short yardage carries he failed to convert.

He'll have a place on the team, but moving forward it looks like it'll be the place he had when Julius Jones was here, except perhaps even more limited. Closer in the 4th when the Cowboys have a lead, and some third down plays.

In other words they want a closer who is just not good and is not an effective RB? Why use him at all if he sucks so bad?

See my other post about Cowboys coaches being stubborn and loyal to a fault. Plus, why send your young RBs out to take the grinding and pounding when you can send out a used up horse for it.

 

[menobrown]

OK, here's a question. I currently own Gore, Best, BJGE, and Barber at RB. Should Barber be dropped for Kevin Smith or Anthony Dixon so I at least have my own backup rather than someone else's?

I'd wait until after the trade deadline next week before cutting Barber lose and if Dallas does not trade Barber or Choice than I'd chop Barber and pick up Dixon/Smith in that order.

 

[ourmanflint]

MBIII is cooked and has been for over a year. drop him in all formats - take a flyer on a RB with potential to run the ball with success

I dont think its MB3 is cooked. I just don't think he has much of a place on that team anymore. He could still be successful somewhere else IMO. Think GB would be perfect but doubt he gets moved.

Dallas has done everything it could for three years to feature Barber. They WANT him to have a place on the team, they WANT him to be THE guy, and Felix to be the COP only.But the bottom line is, for three years Barber has worn down and gotten lingering injuries each season, and is now just not an effective RB. He and Jones have the same amount of touches, and Jones has generated 100 more yards. Barber's YPC is 3 something, he's just not good.

Barber was successful because he played with such intensity that it overcame his physical shortcomings. But now that his body can't hold up under that intensity, he's unable to be productive. Look at the number of times he got stuffed at the one last year. Or the short yardage carries he failed to convert.

He'll have a place on the team, but moving forward it looks like it'll be the place he had when Julius Jones was here, except perhaps even more limited. Closer in the 4th when the Cowboys have a lead, and some third down plays.

In other words they want a closer who is just not good and is not an effective RB? Why use him at all if he sucks so bad?

See my other post about Cowboys coaches being stubborn and loyal to a fault. Plus, why send your young RBs out to take the grinding and pounding when you can send out a used up horse for it.

Because to close out a game you have to actually gain yardage? I don't buy that Barber is used up and no good. I've seen him play and the guy is still explosive and has alot of fire. No, not the same power and ability to break tackles as before but that hasn't ever really been Felix's strength either. I just think the Cowboy OLine sucks tremendously and the OC is a panicky moron who needs to step down to less challenging employment. It seems to me there were more holes for Felix this week and that Barber would have gained nice yardage as well if he had been given the chance.

I have resolved myself to the fact though that Jerruh wants Felix and that Barber will get few touches unless the injury bug strikes.

 

[thatguythere]

Because to close out a game you have to actually gain yardage? I don't buy that Barber is used up and no good. I've seen him play and the guy is still explosive and has alot of fire. No, not the same power and ability to break tackles as before but that hasn't ever really been Felix's strength either.

I just think the Cowboy OLine sucks tremendously and the OC is a panicky moron who needs to step down to less challenging employment. It seems to me there were more holes for Felix this week and that Barber would have gained nice yardage as well if he had been given the chance.

I have resolved myself to the fact though that Jerruh wants Felix and that Barber will get few touches unless until the injury bug strikes.

It's only a matter of time.

 

[switz]

Because to close out a game you have to actually gain yardage? I don't buy that Barber is used up and no good. I've seen him play and the guy is still explosive and has alot of fire. No, not the same power and ability to break tackles as before but that hasn't ever really been Felix's strength either.

I just think the Cowboy OLine sucks tremendously and the OC is a panicky moron who needs to step down to less challenging employment. It seems to me there were more holes for Felix this week and that Barber would have gained nice yardage as well if he had been given the chance.

I have resolved myself to the fact though that Jerruh wants Felix and that Barber will get few touches unless until the injury bug strikes.

It's only a matter of time.

 

[Hanz]

If MBIII does not get dealt to GB or any other team for that matter, what is his value?

I'm considering just dropping his ####.

 

[Clifford]

FWIW he was instantly scooped in my league after I dropped him.

 

[Road Dogg]

The rent is too damn high

 

[packersfan]

FWIW he was instantly scooped in my league after I dropped him.

He's on my league's Waiver Wire and I keep wondering how badly I want to pursue him. He looks like he's running hard and it was encouraging to see him used more in the passing game against the Vikings but Felix looks better and neither one is getting a lot of goal-line looks so far.

 

[sirfumblesalot]

He was just dropped in my league today. I'm hoping to snag him as soon as he becomes unlocked. Situation isn't pretty right now in Dallas but the upside is there in my opinion if the offense can right itself. I know there are big o-line issues but I like him better than the other options sitting out on my waiver wire. I'd be dropping Jerome Harrison for him.

 

[red]

FWIW, in a league with a short bench (3), i'm dropping him for a bye week Kicker fill in. i'd rather hold onto to rackers for a week and lose MB3 than keep MB3 and risk losing rackers for the season.