McFadden believes he will be drafted by Jets (1 Viewer)

[Smizzy]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jet...0,3913939.story

McFadden believes he will be drafted by Jets

BY ERIK BOLAND | erik.boland@newsday.com

April 25, 2008

Darren McFadden had nothing concrete to offer into evidence, just a feeling.

"I feel like if I'm still up there when they're picking, they're probably going to try to take me," the Arkansas running back said of the Jets yesterday at the Lighthouse at Chelsea Piers.

McFadden and other projected top draft choices Glenn Dorsey (LSU), Vernon Gholston (Ohio State), Chris Long (Virginia) and Matt Ryan (Boston College) were at the Lighthouse for the 2008 NFL draft luncheon. Michigan's Jake Long also attended, though the mystery surrounding his draft day disappeared earlier this week when he agreed to terms with the Dolphins, who have the No. 1 overall pick.

The Jets are sitting in the sixth spot, and the scenario that has their fans most excited is the possibility of McFadden, the Heisman Trophy runner-up the last two seasons, falling into their lap.

The Jets have done considerable vetting of the running back and went all out last week when he came to town for his official interview. They took him out to dinner and even a boxing event at the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan. There was no-key-to-the-city ceremony presided over by Mayor Bloomberg, but there was a meeting with boxing analyst Teddy Atlas, a Jets special assistant.

That entire evening and other conversations he has had with the Jets have McFadden almost convinced he could be holding up a green-and-white jersey on draft day.

"Just being around them, getting that vibe from them," McFadden said. "Talking to them, I get that vibe."

Told that most teams probably try to give positive vibes to the players they invite for interviews, McFadden grinned.

"I felt it more with the Jets," he said.

There has been some conjecture that the Jets might trade up in order to secure McFadden - the Raiders, who pick fourth, also are looking hard at him - but that appears unlikely given their other glaring needs, particularly a pass rusher. There also is a lack of unanimity on McFadden's prospects for NFL success.

He put up huge numbers at Arkansas, including a program-record 1,830 yards with 16 touchdowns last season, and ranks second in SEC history with 5,881 all-purpose yards.

His last regular-season game was among the most memorable of the 2007 college football season; he rushed for 206 yards and three touchdowns in a 50-48 victory at LSU, then the top-ranked team in the country. McFadden, a sometimes quarterback in Arkansas' "Wildcat" formation, also threw a touchdown pass in that game.

McFadden's 4.33 40-yard dash time at the combine wowed scouts, but others see a "bust" factor, citing McFadden's supposedly skinny legs and 23 fumbles in three years. McFadden, though, has projected nothing but confidence in past interviews and did so again yesterday.

Asked what kind of offense he is best suited for, McFadden smiled again.

"I feel I'd fit in good with any offense," he said.

And two days before the draft, McFadden's overriding feeling is that the offense he'll be learning just might be the Jets'.

McFadden's numbers

2

Doak Walker Award wins (given to nation's top RB) in 2006 and 2007. Both years he was Heisman runner-up.

38

collegiate games played

41

rushing touchdowns

22

100-yard games

4,590

career rushing yards

5.85

yards per carry

 

[Mapmaker]

It certainly wouldn't surprise me to see him end up wearing Jets colours this season .. they've improved the O-Line during the offseason, they have a good but not great corp of RB's and Jones is edging up there in years now, they play in a division where keep away might be a pretty good idea especially when facing NE twice a season.

Should McFadden end up a JET there would be no pressure to have him be the "show" right out of the gate because of the running game strength the existing backfield already provides .. so he could be groomed properly in blocking assignments and utilized in a shared carry ground game until he's got his NFL legs under him .. then eventually down the stretch he could be moved into the starting roll, or just become more of a force in the overall Jets offence.

Makes sense to me .. but we'll need to wait and see how things unfold Saturday!

 

[TLEF316]

He shouldn't be allowed on the field until he can squat 225.

 

[Patoons]

He shouldn't be allowed on the field until he can squat 225.

I really do NOT want the Jets to go after him. Would much prefer Gholston, any CB, or :crossesfingers: Long

 

[twitch]

No matter what I or anyone else thinks about McFadden, Id LOVE this pick for the Jets. It would be ballsy to let him slip past them and allow NE to potentially pounce. But its just as ballsy to just go ahead and grab the kid for themselves. But I dont see the huge risk. They just sit right there and call his name if he falls to them. They wont need to throw in any additional picks like with Robertson a few years ago. The young man seems to LOVE football, and most experts agree thats the most important factor, first and foremost. And he seems like a good kid, no matter how many kids he's got or will have. But you just cant teach SPEED. And he's got it. And as a fan of the AFC East, the more stars we get in the division, the better. I hope McFadden absolutely kills it for the Jets next year and in the future. At least for 14 games of the year.

 

[Knight who says Ni]

He shouldn't be allowed on the field until he can squat 225.

I really do NOT want the Jets to go after him. Would much prefer Gholston, any CB, or :crossesfingers: Long

I am hoping against hope that Long will still be there at 6 ...

 

[TLEF316]

No matter what I or anyone else thinks about McFadden, Id LOVE this pick for the Jets. It would be ballsy to let him slip past them and allow NE to potentially pounce. But its just as ballsy to just go ahead and grab the kid for themselves. But I dont see the huge risk. They just sit right there and call his name if he falls to them. They wont need to throw in any additional picks like with Robertson a few years ago. The young man seems to LOVE football, and most experts agree thats the most important factor, first and foremost. And he seems like a good kid, no matter how many kids he's got or will have. But you just cant teach SPEED. And he's got it. And as a fan of the AFC East, the more stars we get in the division, the better. I hope McFadden absolutely kills it for the Jets next year and in the future. At least for 14 games of the year.

why would we care if the patriots get him? You already have Maroney who massacres us every time we play you with his phsyical style. There's only 1 ball to go around. If the Jets get a pass rusher and the Pats take McFadden, I'll go out to the bar and buy everyone a round.

 

[twitch]

No matter what I or anyone else thinks about McFadden, Id LOVE this pick for the Jets. It would be ballsy to let him slip past them and allow NE to potentially pounce. But its just as ballsy to just go ahead and grab the kid for themselves. But I dont see the huge risk. They just sit right there and call his name if he falls to them. They wont need to throw in any additional picks like with Robertson a few years ago. The young man seems to LOVE football, and most experts agree thats the most important factor, first and foremost. And he seems like a good kid, no matter how many kids he's got or will have. But you just cant teach SPEED. And he's got it. And as a fan of the AFC East, the more stars we get in the division, the better. I hope McFadden absolutely kills it for the Jets next year and in the future. At least for 14 games of the year.

why would we care if the patriots get him? You already have Maroney who massacres us every time we play you with his phsyical style. There's only 1 ball to go around. If the Jets get a pass rusher and the Pats take McFadden, I'll go out to the bar and buy everyone a round.

Your team needs offensive playmakers. You can get a nice pass rushing OLB in the late 1st by moving back up or where that 2nd sits currently. Quentin Groves or Cliff Avril might fall right in the Jets' laps. Those 2 kids are a couple of studs, and players Id love to see NE end up with. But if you get a shot at a speed demon playmaking stud back like McFadden and your O currently stinks, you jump on that kid. I guarantee your brass knows that. He's a guy teams will forced to gameplan for, and he'll open up other areas of the field. You need guys like that. But cheers anyway, no matter how it goes down.

 

[TLEF316]

i agree that the jets need playmakers. However, i think that Leon Washington can be one, given 20 touches per game. Drafting McFadden sends him to permenant KR duty, and I'm not ok with that, considering how many holes we have.

Bottom line is i dont like mcfadden. He played in a gimmick college offense and had massive holes to run through. It was all sweeps and options and he never broke tackles. And on top of all of that, he fumbled....alot. If the jets take him, I'll root for him, but i wont be pleased.

And thet jets probably dont move back up into the late first. They have no 3rd this year and dont have a lot to offer. Next year i could see this happening.

 

[Reaper]

i agree that the jets need playmakers. However, i think that Leon Washington can be one, given 20 touches per game. Drafting McFadden sends him to permenant KR duty, and I'm not ok with that, considering how many holes we have.Bottom line is i dont like mcfadden. He played in a gimmick college offense and had massive holes to run through. It was all sweeps and options and he never broke tackles. And on top of all of that, he fumbled....alot. If the jets take him, I'll root for him, but i wont be pleased.And thet jets probably move back up into the late first. They have no 3rd this year and dont have a lot to offer. Next year i could see this happening.

I've been saying that the jets are putting on the biggest dog and pony show with Mcfadden....They came here talking about building a team with leaders and high character guys and Now we think they will take a guy with 2 brothers in gangs, a Crack mom, kids all over and bar fights????If they picked him and he was a problem Child then they might as well hang it up and bang their heads against the wall..... It's one thing to believe Mcfadden is a victim and might not be a "Problem" - But, it's a whole other thing to make it like he's the LEADER type you talked about bringing to this team....I'm hoping for a TRADE DOWN - I don't love any of these guys at the top and I feel there are comp players later on that may be better fits for every one of em.

 

[twitch]

i agree that the jets need playmakers. However, i think that Leon Washington can be one, given 20 touches per game. Drafting McFadden sends him to permenant KR duty, and I'm not ok with that, considering how many holes we have.

Bottom line is i dont like mcfadden. He played in a gimmick college offense and had massive holes to run through. It was all sweeps and options and he never broke tackles. And on top of all of that, he fumbled....alot. If the jets take him, I'll root for him, but i wont be pleased.

And thet jets probably move back up into the late first. They have no 3rd this year and dont have a lot to offer. Next year i could see this happening.

We sortof feel the same way about McFadden. I dont have a solid feeling that he'll be an absolute stud. But he's an SEC back that flat out tore up what is without a doubt the best football conference in the country. And he doesnt have the Heisman jinx hanging over him. I see him as a guy with a chip on his shoulder. If he's on the board for NE, my attitude on his future will change quick. Because I'll want them to get all over him. He just needs to get out of that state away from that dysfunctional family and hit the weights hard all day every day on the legs. The fumbling thing can be cured as evidenced by Tiki Barber. He was about the biggest fumbler in the league and completely killed the habit. One of our teams needs to get all over this guy if he's still on the board. Oakland may pull the trigger early. But theyve got a stable of backs already, so I have a feeling your boys are gonna have to make a tough choice. Now dont get me wrong, I love Leon Washington. He's definite player. But I see him still having a nice role even with McFadden in the O. Jones would be the odd man out, but he'd make a nice backup. But if your guys end up with McFadden, you really need to be more than just pleased. And if I hear BOOS from those knuckleheads in the Hall if it goes down that way, I'll just shake my head and realize theyre probably all just drunk!

 

[TLEF316]

i agree that the jets need playmakers. However, i think that Leon Washington can be one, given 20 touches per game. Drafting McFadden sends him to permenant KR duty, and I'm not ok with that, considering how many holes we have.

Bottom line is i dont like mcfadden. He played in a gimmick college offense and had massive holes to run through. It was all sweeps and options and he never broke tackles. And on top of all of that, he fumbled....alot. If the jets take him, I'll root for him, but i wont be pleased.

And thet jets probably move back up into the late first. They have no 3rd this year and dont have a lot to offer. Next year i could see this happening.

We sortof feel the same way about McFadden. I dont have a solid feeling that he'll be an absolute stud. But he's an SEC back that flat out tore up what is without a doubt the best football conference in the country. And he doesnt have the Heisman jinx hanging over him. I see him as a guy with a chip on his shoulder. If he's on the board for NE, my attitude on his future will change quick. Because I'll want them to get all over him. He just needs to get out of that state away from that dysfunctional family and hit the weights hard all day every day on the legs. The fumbling thing can be cured as evidenced by Tiki Barber. He was about the biggest fumbler in the league and completely killed the habit. One of our teams needs to get all over this guy if he's still on the board. Oakland may pull the trigger early. But theyve got a stable of backs already, so I have a feeling your boys are gonna have to make a tough choice. Now dont get me wrong, I love Leon Washington. He's definite player. But I see him still having a nice role even with McFadden in the O. Jones would be the odd man out, but he'd make a nice backup. But if your guys end up with McFadden, you really need to be more than just pleased. And if I hear BOOS from those knuckleheads in the Hall if it goes down that way, I'll just shake my head and realize theyre probably all just drunk!

Yeah, i think we're kinda on the same page. And the fans wont boo. They want Mcfadden.

 

[One]

It's all up to the St Louis Rams.

If Oakland can land Chris Long, Jets get McFadden.

Otherwise I think he's a Raider.

 

[Reaper]

i agree that the jets need playmakers. However, i think that Leon Washington can be one, given 20 touches per game. Drafting McFadden sends him to permenant KR duty, and I'm not ok with that, considering how many holes we have.

Bottom line is i dont like mcfadden. He played in a gimmick college offense and had massive holes to run through. It was all sweeps and options and he never broke tackles. And on top of all of that, he fumbled....alot. If the jets take him, I'll root for him, but i wont be pleased.

And thet jets probably move back up into the late first. They have no 3rd this year and dont have a lot to offer. Next year i could see this happening.

We sortof feel the same way about McFadden. I dont have a solid feeling that he'll be an absolute stud. But he's an SEC back that flat out tore up what is without a doubt the best football conference in the country. And he doesnt have the Heisman jinx hanging over him. I see him as a guy with a chip on his shoulder. If he's on the board for NE, my attitude on his future will change quick. Because I'll want them to get all over him. He just needs to get out of that state away from that dysfunctional family and hit the weights hard all day every day on the legs. The fumbling thing can be cured as evidenced by Tiki Barber. He was about the biggest fumbler in the league and completely killed the habit. One of our teams needs to get all over this guy if he's still on the board. Oakland may pull the trigger early. But theyve got a stable of backs already, so I have a feeling your boys are gonna have to make a tough choice. Now dont get me wrong, I love Leon Washington. He's definite player. But I see him still having a nice role even with McFadden in the O. Jones would be the odd man out, but he'd make a nice backup. But if your guys end up with McFadden, you really need to be more than just pleased. And if I hear BOOS from those knuckleheads in the Hall if it goes down that way, I'll just shake my head and realize theyre probably all just drunk!

Yeah, i think we're kinda on the same page. And the fans wont boo. They want Mcfadden.

I'm with you guys as well... Thing is You can't deny the TALENT....

If/When the Jets pass on Mcfadden, the place is going to go INSANE!!!!!

And that's always FUN.

 

[EBF]

I'm not a DMC fan by any means, but he would add a big play element that the Jets lack.

Coles, Cotchery, and Jones are not exactly deep threats.

 

[FavreCo]

I'm with you guys as well... Thing is You can't deny the TALENT....If/When the Jets pass on Mcfadden, the place is going to go INSANE!!!!!And that's always FUN.

Can't wait for that, then. Let's hope for 'when'.

 

[Jason Wood]

Well, Jets fans will go bananas on Saturday if they land McFadden; if nothing else, that will be fun to see.

 

[Team Legacy]

I love the Jets... Actually met Fireman Ed at a Packer game one opening Sunday. Real nice guy.

30 second Jets fan commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEb0mUJdIn0...feature=related

 

[Ron_Mexico]

No matter what I or anyone else thinks about McFadden, Id LOVE this pick for the Jets. It would be ballsy to let him slip past them and allow NE to potentially pounce. But its just as ballsy to just go ahead and grab the kid for themselves. But I dont see the huge risk. They just sit right there and call his name if he falls to them. They wont need to throw in any additional picks like with Robertson a few years ago. The young man seems to LOVE football, and most experts agree thats the most important factor, first and foremost. And he seems like a good kid, no matter how many kids he's got or will have. But you just cant teach SPEED. And he's got it. And as a fan of the AFC East, the more stars we get in the division, the better. I hope McFadden absolutely kills it for the Jets next year and in the future. At least for 14 games of the year.

why would we care if the patriots get him? You already have Maroney who massacres us every time we play you with his phsyical style. There's only 1 ball to go around. If the Jets get a pass rusher and the Pats take McFadden, I'll go out to the bar and buy everyone a round.

Your team needs offensive playmakers. You can get a nice pass rushing OLB in the late 1st by moving back up or where that 2nd sits currently. Quentin Groves or Cliff Avril might fall right in the Jets' laps. Those 2 kids are a couple of studs, and players Id love to see NE end up with. But if you get a shot at a speed demon playmaking stud back like McFadden and your O currently stinks, you jump on that kid. I guarantee your brass knows that. He's a guy teams will forced to gameplan for, and he'll open up other areas of the field. You need guys like that. But cheers anyway, no matter how it goes down.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Once again, I don't see what McFadden's going to add to the team that Leon Washington doesn't bring. It's a waste of a pick. Sure, if he's got great blocking and no one can get him he's off to the races, but the same is true of Washington. Washington's also got a better RB body than McFadden.

You don't spend the #6 pick on a guy that's going to give you ten carries a game. Between Jones, Washington, the Jets are more than set at running back. With them they can have 420 carries for 1720 yards (Jones: 300 x 3.9, Washington 100 x 4.7, Chatman 20 x 4.0). If you get McFadden, and he plays well, maybe it will be 420 carries for 1774 yards (Jones 220 x. 3.9, Washington 80 x. 4.7, McFadden 120 x. 4.5.).

Now, is the #6 pick in the draft worth 54 additional yards on the season?

 

[Gopher State]

If he gets by the Raiders he's a JET. Would be a great pick for the J E T S

 

[Armor & Sword]

I really think Al Davis takes McFadden. Then he will have Russell, Walker and McFadden as his big three to build his vertical offense. They will shed Rhodes or Jordan and Fargas will be the back up that he should be. McFadden is a home run hitter and the Raiders love those big play guys. McFadden is all about wearing silver and black imo. Could be wrong of course....but Al Davis will not want to pass up ticket sales and this kid will sell tickets with 75 yard jaunts to the endzone.

 

[EBF]

Once again, I don't see what McFadden's going to add to the team that Leon Washington doesn't bring. It's a waste of a pick. Sure, if he's got great blocking and no one can get him he's off to the races, but the same is true of Washington. Washington's also got a better RB body than McFadden. You don't spend the #6 pick on a guy that's going to give you ten carries a game. Between Jones, Washington, the Jets are more than set at running back. With them they can have 420 carries for 1720 yards (Jones: 300 x 3.9, Washington 100 x 4.7, Chatman 20 x 4.0). If you get McFadden, and he plays well, maybe it will be 420 carries for 1774 yards (Jones 220 x. 3.9, Washington 80 x. 4.7, McFadden 120 x. 4.5.).Now, is the #6 pick in the draft worth 54 additional yards on the season?

Don't you watch TV?Darren McFadden is the next Adrian Peterson.

 

[Armor & Sword]

Once again, I don't see what McFadden's going to add to the team that Leon Washington doesn't bring. It's a waste of a pick. Sure, if he's got great blocking and no one can get him he's off to the races, but the same is true of Washington. Washington's also got a better RB body than McFadden. You don't spend the #6 pick on a guy that's going to give you ten carries a game. Between Jones, Washington, the Jets are more than set at running back. With them they can have 420 carries for 1720 yards (Jones: 300 x 3.9, Washington 100 x 4.7, Chatman 20 x 4.0). If you get McFadden, and he plays well, maybe it will be 420 carries for 1774 yards (Jones 220 x. 3.9, Washington 80 x. 4.7, McFadden 120 x. 4.5.).Now, is the #6 pick in the draft worth 54 additional yards on the season?

Don't you watch TV?Darren McFadden is the next Adrian Peterson.

It is not about yards....it is about making plays. Game changing plays.McFadden is a play maker. Leon Washington is a nice complimentery player. He is no superstar type of back though. If he was he would be starting.You take rare talents like McFadden, Peterson, Tomlinson etc because they make big plays and win games. Mcfadden is not a fluke...not playing in the SEC against some of the best players in the country. Did you see his game against LSU last year? Superstar type talent.

 

[silentmark]

Once again, I don't see what McFadden's going to add to the team that Leon Washington doesn't bring. It's a waste of a pick. Sure, if he's got great blocking and no one can get him he's off to the races, but the same is true of Washington. Washington's also got a better RB body than McFadden. You don't spend the #6 pick on a guy that's going to give you ten carries a game. Between Jones, Washington, the Jets are more than set at running back. With them they can have 420 carries for 1720 yards (Jones: 300 x 3.9, Washington 100 x 4.7, Chatman 20 x 4.0). If you get McFadden, and he plays well, maybe it will be 420 carries for 1774 yards (Jones 220 x. 3.9, Washington 80 x. 4.7, McFadden 120 x. 4.5.).Now, is the #6 pick in the draft worth 54 additional yards on the season?

Right on. I think it is a wasted pick for the Jets and I am not just saying this because I am a Leon owner either

 

[TLEF316]

Once again, I don't see what McFadden's going to add to the team that Leon Washington doesn't bring. It's a waste of a pick. Sure, if he's got great blocking and no one can get him he's off to the races, but the same is true of Washington. Washington's also got a better RB body than McFadden. You don't spend the #6 pick on a guy that's going to give you ten carries a game. Between Jones, Washington, the Jets are more than set at running back. With them they can have 420 carries for 1720 yards (Jones: 300 x 3.9, Washington 100 x 4.7, Chatman 20 x 4.0). If you get McFadden, and he plays well, maybe it will be 420 carries for 1774 yards (Jones 220 x. 3.9, Washington 80 x. 4.7, McFadden 120 x. 4.5.).Now, is the #6 pick in the draft worth 54 additional yards on the season?

I really think DMC to the jets is gonna happen at this point. The signings they made this offseason will likely allow him to have a much better season that Jones/Leon had last year. Then, everybody will say that he was the diference, totally ignoring the fact that they signed 2 veteran O-linemen and the best blocking FB in the league...

 

[Chase Stuart]

McFadden is a play maker. Leon Washington is a nice complimentery player. He is no superstar type of back though. If he was he would be starting.

That's a conclusion, not an argument.

 

[brock]

leon is a total playmaker. the jets don't need mcfadden.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Here's how Leon Washington compares to some other RBs after their first two seasons in the league.

NAME				RSH	RSHYD  YD/RSH  RSHTD	 Leon Washington	 222	1003	4.52	 7	Marion Barber III   273	1192	4.37	19	Willie Parker	   287	1388	4.84	 4	Larry Johnson	   140	 666	4.76	10	Rudi Johnson		232	1024	4.41	 9	Brian Westbrook	 163	 806	4.94	 7	Priest Holmes	   233	1008	4.33	 7   Stephen Davis	   164	 706	4.30	 5	Charlie Garner	  217	 987	4.55	 9

 

[money.never.sleeps]

Darren Mcfaddens mom says "I hate New York and California"

Classic. I think it would be miracle if he didn't end up in one those 2 places.

Don't see Jerry J. pulling the trigger to trade up.

 

[JAA]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...amp;pid=8529509

 

[money.never.sleeps]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...amp;pid=8529509

So in your opinion both Raiders and Jets pass on Mcfadden.. eventhough both either have unproven/non work horse backs or older/injured RB's? Mangini only been coach for what 2-3 seasons so how can you say he won't take RB because he never has in 1st round? I'm not shocked at anything but would suprise me a little if both passed on DMC. So basically you think someone trades up with either Raiders, Jets, Patriots to take Mcfadden?I agree that the Cheifs will not take Ryan but am not certain about Falcons. I also agree they need many pieces. But I disagree with notion Ravens would not jump on chance to take Ryan but wouldnt suprise me if Ryan was gone by 8 and Ravens took CB.

By the way... Its "Mangenius "

 

[twitch]

I would imagine the Jets may actually be thrilled that McFadden's Mom doesnt like New York. Maybe she'll keep here butt back home in Arkansas and let DMac play some football in relative 'peace'.

And listen. For anyone who thinks Leon Washington is a Darren McFadden-type answer for the Jets running game. Please. Lets be serious here. Leon is a nice little back. He's a capable 3rd down guy. He's a solid return man. But the kid never even had a 1000yd season in college. He never carried the ball more than 140 times. McFadden has done that in the SEC for 3 straight years. He's had over 350 touches in back to back seasons and basically OWNED the SEC. How can we not respect that? Its the SEC we're talking about here. The man obviously has vision most people simply dont understand to amass the #s he has. There's more to running the football than simply speed. Im not penciling the man into the HOF here, but you cant just write off his accomplishments to this point, and suggest that just any old back can do what he does.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Here's how Leon Washington compares to some other RBs after their first two seasons in the league.

If the Jets take McFadden it means they didn't put too much stock in Washington's stats. Stats don't always tell the story. If they don't take McFadden, as a fan of Washington and a dynasty owner, I will feel very good about his future there. I'm certainly not confident in any outcome here. But that pick could certainly change the future of more than one franchise, and a small handful of interesting fantasy RBs... two in NY and whoever is where ever Darren actually goes. I'm on pins and needles like Jets fan and I may boo just as loud.

 

[Smizzy]

Darren Mcfaddens mom says "I hate New York and California"Classic. I think it would be miracle if he didn't end up in one those 2 places. Don't see Jerry J. pulling the trigger to trade up.

She must be smokin crack

 

[Smizzy]

I would imagine the Jets may actually be thrilled that McFadden's Mom doesnt like New York. Maybe she'll keep here butt back home in Arkansas and let DMac play some football in relative 'peace'. And listen. For anyone who thinks Leon Washington is a Darren McFadden-type answer for the Jets running game. Please. Lets be serious here. Leon is a nice little back. He's a capable 3rd down guy. He's a solid return man. But the kid never even had a 1000yd season in college. He never carried the ball more than 140 times. McFadden has done that in the SEC for 3 straight years. He's had over 350 touches in back to back seasons and basically OWNED the SEC. How can we not respect that? Its the SEC we're talking about here. The man obviously has vision most people simply dont understand to amass the #s he has. There's more to running the football than simply speed. Im not penciling the man into the HOF here, but you cant just write off his accomplishments to this point, and suggest that just any old back can do what he does.

 

[Koya]

If the Jets do get him, I hope that I am mistaken in my belief that McFadden is a glorified Michael Bennett... because unless they open huge lanes for him to run in, this could be the next blair thomas.

 

[Reaper]

If the Jets do get him, I hope that I am mistaken in my belief that McFadden is a glorified Michael Bennett... because unless they open huge lanes for him to run in, this could be the next blair thomas.

And God Help Mangini and Co. if this guy turns out ot be a bad seed after spending their whole Jet career preaching about drafting and bringing in Leaders and High Character people....We can debate Mcfadden's Character all day and we can hope he doesn't wind up on a Police Blotter one day But, i think we're still talking about a whole other side of the spectrum from the "Leader" type these guys have told us about....As I said all along, this whole Mcfadden / Jets thing has been the biggest Dog and Pony show going and the Jets want nothing more than this guy to be taken or for someone to trade with.....If I'm wrong send me the link for a Mcfadden jersey and FATHEAD tommorrow afternoon.

 

[sheerterror]

Once again, I don't see what McFadden's going to add to the team that Leon Washington doesn't bring. It's a waste of a pick. Sure, if he's got great blocking and no one can get him he's off to the races, but the same is true of Washington. Washington's also got a better RB body than McFadden. You don't spend the #6 pick on a guy that's going to give you ten carries a game. Between Jones, Washington, the Jets are more than set at running back. With them they can have 420 carries for 1720 yards (Jones: 300 x 3.9, Washington 100 x 4.7, Chatman 20 x 4.0). If you get McFadden, and he plays well, maybe it will be 420 carries for 1774 yards (Jones 220 x. 3.9, Washington 80 x. 4.7, McFadden 120 x. 4.5.).Now, is the #6 pick in the draft worth 54 additional yards on the season?

A - ####in - MEN!!!Draft Gholston if available, or, with all the talk of teams attempting to move up, slide down a few notches and land a DE, LB or CB and try to pick up an extra mid-round pick.

 

[TLEF316]

I would imagine the Jets may actually be thrilled that McFadden's Mom doesnt like New York. Maybe she'll keep here butt back home in Arkansas and let DMac play some football in relative 'peace'. And listen. For anyone who thinks Leon Washington is a Darren McFadden-type answer for the Jets running game. Please. Lets be serious here. Leon is a nice little back. He's a capable 3rd down guy. He's a solid return man. But the kid never even had a 1000yd season in college. He never carried the ball more than 140 times. McFadden has done that in the SEC for 3 straight years. He's had over 350 touches in back to back seasons and basically OWNED the SEC. How can we not respect that? Its the SEC we're talking about here. The man obviously has vision most people simply dont understand to amass the #s he has. There's more to running the football than simply speed. Im not penciling the man into the HOF here, but you cant just write off his accomplishments to this point, and suggest that just any old back can do what he does.

I respect McFadden's accomplishments very much. He was an unbelievable college player and a teriffic talent. However, i feel very strongly that his value is percieved to be higher because of the success of adrian Peterson. (which makes no sense because they are totally diferent players with totally diferent bodies and skill sets)He may very well be a great pro. However, i think its ignorant to just assume he'll be great because he put up great numbers in a great conference (not saying you are doing this) The Arkansas Offense was gimmicky as all hell. It was the equivalent of the cheesers who play NCAA Football on Xbox live and put a WR with 95 speed and QB. I can't blame McFadden for this, but i think there has to be a concern as to how he'll fare in a pro-style system. The holes wont be as big, he wont be running out of a shot gun formation and this increased penetrating of NFL d-linemen will require a lot more lateral mobility than he needed in college. As much as you have to like his measureables (other than the apparent lack of leg bulk) its hard for an educated observer to totally ignore the fact that a lof of his teriffic highlight runs were sweeps and option players where he hit a 10 yard wide hole and took off untouched without having to make one wiggle or juke.Like i said, if the jets pick him, I'll root like hell and pray I'm wrong. I just think an NFL offense built around a player like McFadden really runs the risk of being shut down by a big, well coached, intelligent defense (Like New England)

 

[Chase Stuart]

I would imagine the Jets may actually be thrilled that McFadden's Mom doesnt like New York. Maybe she'll keep here butt back home in Arkansas and let DMac play some football in relative 'peace'. And listen. For anyone who thinks Leon Washington is a Darren McFadden-type answer for the Jets running game. Please. Lets be serious here. Leon is a nice little back. He's a capable 3rd down guy. He's a solid return man. But the kid never even had a 1000yd season in college. He never carried the ball more than 140 times. McFadden has done that in the SEC for 3 straight years. He's had over 350 touches in back to back seasons and basically OWNED the SEC. How can we not respect that? Its the SEC we're talking about here. The man obviously has vision most people simply dont understand to amass the #s he has. There's more to running the football than simply speed. Im not penciling the man into the HOF here, but you cant just write off his accomplishments to this point, and suggest that just any old back can do what he does.

And Cedric Benson owned the Big 12 and Ron Dayne owned the Big 10 and J.J. Arrington owned the Pac-10.McFadden did great against LSU, sure. But he was shut down by Auburn and outrushed by Tony Temple by about 200 yards in his bowl game. He was also held in check in his '06 Bowl game. Let's not make the SEC out to be the NFL lite, because it's not.And expert analysis on Leon Washington there. He's a "nice little back" that weighs almost the same as McFadden but with a much higher body mass ratio.

 

[Chase Stuart]

If the Jets do get him, I hope that I am mistaken in my belief that McFadden is a glorified Michael Bennett... because unless they open huge lanes for him to run in, this could be the next blair thomas.

And God Help Mangini and Co. if this guy turns out ot be a bad seed after spending their whole Jet career preaching about drafting and bringing in Leaders and High Character people....We can debate Mcfadden's Character all day and we can hope he doesn't wind up on a Police Blotter one day But, i think we're still talking about a whole other side of the spectrum from the "Leader" type these guys have told us about....As I said all along, this whole Mcfadden / Jets thing has been the biggest Dog and Pony show going and the Jets want nothing more than this guy to be taken or for someone to trade with.....If I'm wrong send me the link for a Mcfadden jersey and FATHEAD tommorrow afternoon.

Doubly good posting because Washington and Jones are high character guys. Curtis Martin took Washington under his wing and has sung his praises. And despite being stuck in an awful offense last year, Thomas Jones never complained once, and kept bringing a strong effort every week, and had a big effort in week 17. That's the kind of player the Jets need.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Additionally, the Jets already have a 6-2, 210 pound guy who can run and play a gimmicky QB.

 

[massraider]

You notice that the only fans that don't think DMC is the Second Coming are the fans of teams that actually may wind up with him?

 

[cstu]

I'm not a DMC fan by any means, but he would add a big play element that the Jets lack. Coles, Cotchery, and Jones are not exactly deep threats.

Not to mention it will help the passing game tremendously to get a guy like McFadden in the backfield. TJ and LW are good players, but they don't scare defenses and we saw last year how the defenses attacked the QB. I think he's a perfect fit with the new OL they have and a young QB who needs to have some pressure taken off him.

 

[cstu]

Also aside from Denver, him going to the Jets is the only way I'd feel 100% comfortable taking him at 1.01.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'm not a DMC fan by any means, but he would add a big play element that the Jets lack.

Coles, Cotchery, and Jones are not exactly deep threats.

Not to mention it will help the passing game tremendously to get a guy like McFadden in the backfield. TJ and LW are good players, but they don't scare defenses and we saw last year how the defenses attacked the QB. I think he's a perfect fit with the new OL they have and a young QB who needs to have some pressure taken off him.

There's little evidence to suggest that a RB helps the passing game, outside of RBs that are good receivers.For example, why would Darren McFadden help Chad Pennington when Ottis Anderson didn't help Jim Hart and Herschel Walker didn't help Wade Wilson?

 

[Chaos Commish]

I'm not a DMC fan by any means, but he would add a big play element that the Jets lack.

Coles, Cotchery, and Jones are not exactly deep threats.

Not to mention it will help the passing game tremendously to get a guy like McFadden in the backfield. TJ and LW are good players, but they don't scare defenses and we saw last year how the defenses attacked the QB. I think he's a perfect fit with the new OL they have and a young QB who needs to have some pressure taken off him.

There's little evidence to suggest that a RB helps the passing game, outside of RBs that are good receivers.For example, why would Darren McFadden help Chad Pennington when Ottis Anderson didn't help Jim Hart and Herschel Walker didn't help Wade Wilson?

Because McFadden's coaches claim his understanding of the offense, routes and hands were so good he could have played WR for them?

 

[Chaos Commish]

On the character and leadership issue, I think there's a disconnect between the terms. McFadden's character lapses are well documented. I think they amount to a small hill of beans myself. His coach has said he'd trust Darren babysitting his kids. He made a couple mistakes, but they've been blown out of proportion with gossip, stretched truths, and sensationalism. As a leader on the team he gets straight As. He leads vocally with enthusiasm and encouragement. And he leads by example with a serious work ethic and love for the game. This kid was running stairs when he thought nobody was paying attention a few hours after his pro day. You don't get as built as he is without being dedicated to hard work. Coaches and teammates have nothing but praise for him as a leader.

He also has long shins and feminine calves.

 

[twitch]

I would imagine the Jets may actually be thrilled that McFadden's Mom doesnt like New York. Maybe she'll keep here butt back home in Arkansas and let DMac play some football in relative 'peace'. And listen. For anyone who thinks Leon Washington is a Darren McFadden-type answer for the Jets running game. Please. Lets be serious here. Leon is a nice little back. He's a capable 3rd down guy. He's a solid return man. But the kid never even had a 1000yd season in college. He never carried the ball more than 140 times. McFadden has done that in the SEC for 3 straight years. He's had over 350 touches in back to back seasons and basically OWNED the SEC. How can we not respect that? Its the SEC we're talking about here. The man obviously has vision most people simply dont understand to amass the #s he has. There's more to running the football than simply speed. Im not penciling the man into the HOF here, but you cant just write off his accomplishments to this point, and suggest that just any old back can do what he does.

And Cedric Benson owned the Big 12 and Ron Dayne owned the Big 10 and J.J. Arrington owned the Pac-10.McFadden did great against LSU, sure. But he was shut down by Auburn and outrushed by Tony Temple by about 200 yards in his bowl game. He was also held in check in his '06 Bowl game. Let's not make the SEC out to be the NFL lite, because it's not.And expert analysis on Leon Washington there. He's a "nice little back" that weighs almost the same as McFadden but with a much higher body mass ratio.

I wanted nothing to do with Dayne, Benson or Arrington in fantasy when they came out. Two of those guys were too slow with no explosion whatsoever, playing behind traditionally dominant Olines. And it took me about 2 1/2minutes of watching Arrington's "highlights" on YouTube to realize he wasnt doing squat in the pros. Little guy, no power, getting tracked down from behind against Air Force. Not much else to say. That's not really bragging either. Because Im sure I wasnt alone in any of those observations. Anyone who watched Cedric Benson break down crying at the NFL draft know something was up with that guy. Too weird. Not weird like Ricky Williams putting on a wedding dress weird. But weird, like let me not touch this guy weird. So, I dont care who thought anything about those 3 guys. I didnt like any of 'em. And that's not poor recollection. That's fact. And, yes. Washington is a nice little back. I dont need to change my evaluation there because not much else is really needed. Id describe Kevin Faulk similarly without going into great detail breaking down either of their games, and I like Faulk's game just as much. Btw, Washington had a pre-draft broad jump of 8'9". McFadden's was 10'8". Thats a simple 'explosion' stat, that in short summarizes the difference in the two. It tells me more about their abilities than this next statisitic... Body mass ratio? Really? Who cares about body mass ratio? Arrington has it. So does Benson. It means nothing, and it means something, but it doesnt mean everything. Shapes and sizes, bro, shapes and sizes. They come in all types. Im not going further into a Leon Washington bashing rant. He's a nice little back, and I like his game. And we can pick apart every back's individual games. No one shines in 'em all. They all get shut down. Tomlinson had 25 yds on 17 carries last year to open the season, but he doesnt exactly suck. But the simple fact that you actually said, "he did great against LSU" and seemingly discounted that performance kind of tells me all I really need to know here. When you find a better football conference, and better pre-NFL competition than the SEC you let me know. Im not a fan of the SEC for a second. I just know better. More premier players in the league come of out of the that conference, specifically on D, than any other. I cant believe I actually just felt a need to make that statement. These players get broken down to no end. McFadden would probably have had even better #s at Arkansas had he actually not shared the backfield with another 1st round tailback. He would have had more carries, more touches, more TDs, and he would probably have handled the load with that same patented smile that's been apparently working wonders on all the ladies in Arkansas. He's a unique player in alot of ways. He's probably not even going to make it to the Jets because the Raiders will probably jump all over him, which I dont personally like. Id rather see him playing in NY. He'd be good for that team and better for the NFL in the Big Apple, imo. But we'll see. None of us have the crystal ball we'd like to think we do.