Meachem more confident and determined (1 Viewer)

[CBower4545]

His first long catch where he laid out for it around the 5 yard line was pretty impressive

I don't know why all the focus is on that one play. He had a decent game and made a couple plays. The long catch was pretty nice. It's encouraging news. Maybe the play shouldn't have been a touchdown, but I don't see how scoring is a negative thing.

 

[Lash]

I don't have time to quote all the remarks above about how that TD was "unimpressive" so this post is about all of em

he had many of those unimpressive long tackle breaking YAC TDs against SEC defenses for UT and I watched all of em

he is not a runner that "looks" fast, but he has good game speed and he is strong like bull

but he ends up in the endzone and several DBs end up rearranging their facemask after they pick themselves up off the ground

 

[ATC1]

I think the operative word when talking about whether or not Meachem will succeed is ... confidence. Last night's game was certainly a big boost to his confidence and we should expect to see him build upon that heading into the regular season. Also, if I remember correctly, the field seemed kind of slick last night, sort of slowing down the speed of the game. Artificial turf might enhance the Meachem viewing experience.

- also with the guys that say he looks a lot better than last year. Last year I remember him looking for the hit across the middle of the field in preseason. This year he tok a couple f hits and kept his feet pumping. That's improvement. Did he look like the burner that they drafted for, no, but throughout his run he was making adjustments to his blockers, not turning on the after burners right into a tackler.Sounds to me like a bunch of guys that want to buy Meachum want to drag his value down by saying he didn't look impressive.

 

[T Bell]

His first long catch where he laid out for it around the 5 yard line was pretty impressive

It was an awesome catch! Who knew that Brunell could throw it farther than 5 yards, huh?

I've said for three years that if Brunell can step into a throw, he still has an arm. Now, when it's week 12 and his legs are gimpy . . . :X

 

[T Bell]

I love how he can put up a 4 catch 129 yard 1 TD performance and people are still saying "Eh, he kinda sucks." You expecting the second coming of Rice or something?

To answer your question, no, but I do expect a WR drafted in the first round to show just a tad more athleticism in the open field than I saw last night. I would have hoped that "confidence" was the only thing he was lacking, but last night I saw some other things too.My impression after that game is that he's better with the ball in the air than he is with the ball in his arms. Aside from being somewhat bizarre to say about a 1st round pick, that's also not good news for RAC yards, at a minimum.

 

[PahtyTom]

he embarassed those scrubs last night

yes they were scrubs, but he embarassed them

yes he embarassed them, but they were scrubs

It's like the chicken and the egg.....err maybe not, oh well

IMO he looked like a starter playing vs backups tho

 

[Maven]

Meachem will be Mr. Irrelevent this year. Next year, maybe ready to make an impact.

He looked good running after the catch on that long TD play but he looks a bit unathletic like someone mentioned, and slow. I wasn't overly impressed.

Realistically, do you see him taking catches away from Bush, Shockey, Colston this year?

Definitely someone to check out for Dynasty leagues but other than that.... don't buy into any hype.

He'll probably have a great preseason competing against lesser talent ala Jacoby Jones last year.

 

[joffer]

finally saw the highlight of his TD....holy ####

who was in on defense there? that was pathetic.

didn't see the other plays, so he may have been impressive, but the defense on that TD was embarrassing.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

for people saying he doesn't look athletic, I thought the cutback that he made right after he caught the TD pass looked very athletic. it was quick and decisive. toward the end of the play, it looked like he was slowing down...either running out of gas, or realizing that he didn't need to run fast after stiff arming the last defender.

 

[gianmarco]

for people saying he doesn't look athletic, I thought the cutback that he made right after he caught the TD pass looked very athletic. it was quick and decisive. toward the end of the play, it looked like he was slowing down...either running out of gas, or realizing that he didn't need to run fast after stiff arming the last defender.

He looked both good and bad in one play. I thought it was a nice move to get separation (even against bad defenders), a nice catch in traffic, and good cut, and then he started running and he looked completely gassed and ran more like a lineman than a WR. Something didn't look right. When I watched it again, it seemed he also could have not been "trying" and wanted to see what he could do to that last guy, but needless to say it looked bad.

 

[az_prof]

When fantasy owners get down on a player it takes a long time to dispell that bad opinion. This was a very good first step. It was a preseason game though. So, although I think he will be good and will start opposite Colston this year (Patten is better suited to the slot), it was only a preseason game and as people said, he did most of his work against inferior talent. Still, for those who criticize him, it was only a preseason game. Is it possible he will improve? For a first preseason game wouldn't you call a 100 yards and a TD a good start? And people who think they can watch a few plays of a preseason game and "know" that a player "lacks physical ability"...well, then you should be an NFL scout. Because I doubt there are many professional coaches or scouts who are so good that they can make that kind of judgement based on a few plays late in a preseason game.I say this every year and I will say it again: preseason means almost nothing. It can help you figure out who may make a team and who may start, and negatively, you just pray your players don't get hurt.As for preseason performances, lots of players who did poorly yesterday will start and perform well this year. Lots of players who did well, will be cut. That being said, it is certainly better to see a guy perform well than not, even if it is against lesser competition, as Meachem's performance was.Bottom line: good start from Meachem; now show me more and show me again.

for people saying he doesn't look athletic, I thought the cutback that he made right after he caught the TD pass looked very athletic. it was quick and decisive. toward the end of the play, it looked like he was slowing down...either running out of gas, or realizing that he didn't need to run fast after stiff arming the last defender.

He looked both good and bad in one play. I thought it was a nice move to get separation (even against bad defenders), a nice catch in traffic, and good cut, and then he started running and he looked completely gassed and ran more like a lineman than a WR. Something didn't look right. When I watched it again, it seemed he also could have not been "trying" and wanted to see what he could do to that last guy, but needless to say it looked bad.

 

[Joe Bryant]

He's 6'2" 210, so he's a pretty big guy. Ran a 4.39 Not freakish by any stretch. If you're wanting Randy Moss, he's not it. But very productive in college.

The catch and run was excellent. Sure, he wouldn't have scored at the end on most starting DBs but that's after the fact. He made a nice catch in traffic, broke tackles and had a nice run. Not sure what more people want. The long diving catch was excellent too.



J

 

[Joe Bryant]

When fantasy owners get down on a player it takes a long time to dispell that bad opinion. This was a very good first step.

It was a preseason game though. So, although I think he will be good and will start opposite Colston this year (Patten is better suited to the slot), it was only a preseason game and as people said, he did most of his work against inferior talent. Still, for those who criticize him, it was only a preseason game. Is it possible he will improve? For a first preseason game wouldn't you call a 100 yards and a TD a good start? And people who think they can watch a few plays of a preseason game and "know" that a player "lacks physical ability"...well, then you should be an NFL scout. Because I doubt there are many professional coaches or scouts who are so good that they can make that kind of judgement based on a few plays late in a preseason game.

I say this every year and I will say it again: preseason means almost nothing. It can help you figure out who may make a team and who may start, and negatively, you just pray your players don't get hurt.

As for preseason performances, lots of players who did poorly yesterday will start and perform well this year. Lots of players who did well, will be cut. That being said, it is certainly better to see a guy perform well than not, even if it is against lesser competition, as Meachem's performance was.

Bottom line: good start from Meachem; now show me more and show me again.

J

 

[massraider]

It's real nice to see a decent game from him, I think what you want as a fantasy owner hunting for sleepers, is word that he's having a good camp.

I get a little nervous when WRs make good plays in the preseason, there's a lot of August All-Stars that are coaching JV somewhere. But it is a real good sign that Meacham made some plays.

Any word on how he was doing in camp?

EDIT:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/aug/04/heaven-can-wait/

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

I was just happy to have him show up for camp in shape and healthy. He's an interesting guy to keep an eye on, especially from a dynasty standpoint. In my dynasty/keeper league, he was drafted last year, but was promptly cut early in the season. For that league, I'm more interested in possibly drafting Meachem than one of the rookie WRs out there now.

 

[kevinallen]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

I'm guessing he looked big, slow, stiff, and unathletic on the over-the-shoulder catch where he burned the Safety, dove, and made a very nice catch? But be sure not to mention that play when you're trying to make your point.

 

[Lash]

I love how he can put up a 4 catch 129 yard 1 TD performance and people are still saying "Eh, he kinda sucks." You expecting the second coming of Rice or something?

To answer your question, no, but I do expect a WR drafted in the first round to show just a tad more athleticism in the open field than I saw last night. I would have hoped that "confidence" was the only thing he was lacking, but last night I saw some other things too.My impression after that game is that he's better with the ball in the air than he is with the ball in his arms. Aside from being somewhat bizarre to say about a 1st round pick, that's also not good news for RAC yards, at a minimum.

your analysis is the EXACT opposite of the scouting report he had in college - he was probably the best RAC yardage guy in the class of '07watch any college film of the guy and you'll see ... first game of the season they threw him a hitch and he ran past Cal defenders dern near the entire field (if i remember right the game i am thinking of)and he did it over and over all year longThe Colston Effect has near ruined any evaluation of rookie WRs the last couple years because we expect them to be insta-stars or something must be wrong with themthe window on getting Meachem was opening last year and by the end of this year it will be closing ... better hurry

 

[The Royal Jack]

I went and found this highlight to find out what everyone was griping about.

All I can say is you've got to be kidding if you are criticizing the run on his TD.

 

[joffer]

I went and found this highlight to find out what everyone was griping about. All I can say is you've got to be kidding if you are criticizing the run on his TD.

i'm not criticizing the run. he made the most of it. i'm at the 12 stooges tripping over each other trying to tackle him.

 

[T Bell]

I went and found this highlight to find out what everyone was griping about. All I can say is you've got to be kidding if you are criticizing the run on his TD.

The catch and spin to avoid the tackle are fine; watch later in the run when he's turning upfield by the sideline. The best defense anyone's been able to come up with for that slow, awkward stride is that "he was getting winded". Winded? Really? A 23-year old NFL athlete? Anyway, it's not just me seeing this. Look, I'm no "hater", and I don't care one way or the other what happens to this guy, but a first rounder shouldn't look anything but smooth and fast in the open field with nothing but a 1:1 matchup to beat to get to the end zone.

 

[mcintyre1]

I went and found this highlight to find out what everyone was griping about. All I can say is you've got to be kidding if you are criticizing the run on his TD.

The catch and spin to avoid the tackle are fine; watch later in the run when he's turning upfield by the sideline. The best defense anyone's been able to come up with for that slow, awkward stride is that "he was getting winded". Winded? Really? A 23-year old NFL athlete? Anyway, it's not just me seeing this. Look, I'm no "hater", and I don't care one way or the other what happens to this guy, but a first rounder shouldn't look anything but smooth and fast in the open field with nothing but a 1:1 matchup to beat to get to the end zone.

So you're ignoring the "he slowed down to cut back, then when he couldn't he just stiff-armed the guy to the ground like a chump" defense that... well... everyone has used? I don't think I saw more than one person mention that he was winded (and they might have been joking).

 

[Saints-Man]

His first long catch where he laid out for it around the 5 yard line was pretty impressive

It was an awesome catch! Who knew that Brunell could throw it farther than 5 yards, huh?

I've said for three years that if Brunell can step into a throw, he still has an arm. Now, when it's week 12 and his legs are gimpy . . . :X

Good point, assuming he has played much of weeks 1-11. He is nothing more than a backup at this stage of his career, and I think he could give you a few solid starts. However, if Brees goes down early for the entire season, the Saints season goes with it.

 

[Saints-Man]

When fantasy owners get down on a player it takes a long time to dispell that bad opinion. This was a very good first step.

It was a preseason game though. So, although I think he will be good and will start opposite Colston this year (Patten is better suited to the slot), it was only a preseason game and as people said, he did most of his work against inferior talent. Still, for those who criticize him, it was only a preseason game. Is it possible he will improve? For a first preseason game wouldn't you call a 100 yards and a TD a good start? And people who think they can watch a few plays of a preseason game and "know" that a player "lacks physical ability"...well, then you should be an NFL scout. Because I doubt there are many professional coaches or scouts who are so good that they can make that kind of judgement based on a few plays late in a preseason game.

I say this every year and I will say it again: preseason means almost nothing. It can help you figure out who may make a team and who may start, and negatively, you just pray your players don't get hurt.

As for preseason performances, lots of players who did poorly yesterday will start and perform well this year. Lots of players who did well, will be cut. That being said, it is certainly better to see a guy perform well than not, even if it is against lesser competition, as Meachem's performance was.

Bottom line: good start from Meachem; now show me more and show me again.

J

Agreed. From a Saints fan and someone who owns Meachem in a few leagues,

 

[tombonneau]

Not sure there are enough balls to go around to make any WR2 on the Saints all that much of a fantasy factor, but a developing & improving Meachem is a big for Drew Brees. Between him and Shockey, I'm thinking this year we see the 2006 not 2007 Drew Brees.

 

[T Bell]

His first long catch where he laid out for it around the 5 yard line was pretty impressive

It was an awesome catch! Who knew that Brunell could throw it farther than 5 yards, huh?

I've said for three years that if Brunell can step into a throw, he still has an arm. Now, when it's week 12 and his legs are gimpy . . . :X

Good point, assuming he has played much of weeks 1-11. He is nothing more than a backup at this stage of his career, and I think he could give you a few solid starts. However, if Brees goes down early for the entire season, the Saints season goes with it.

He's probably an ideal backup for that reason.