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Meachem's effect on Colston... (1 Viewer)

What will be Marques' stats at the end of this season...?

  • Improve from his 14 game, 70 Rec, 1038 yards, 8 Td year...

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I saw how bloom ranks Colston a little lower than most going into this season, while simultaneously putting robert proportionally a little higher....So I am just wondering how the rest of you feel....

What do you think about Colston's numbers this season? Will they remain the same? Increase? or Decrease?

your thoughts? :bowtie:

 
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I think Colston can continue to improve this year, but it as a lot more to do with the fact that he was a rookie last year and should improve in general, and less to do with any of the other WRs in NO.

 
Despite a great offense, the Saints are extremely short at WR. Devery is mainly a deep threat used to stretch the field, Copper is mediocre at best, Meachem is a rookie and Patten is old. Jamal Jones is the only other real chance to play, although the fans seem to love the acquisition of McKnight as an UDFA. Although they have receiving weapons at RB and TE, I see a great season for Colston because he is the only consistent WR, and Reggie Bush keeps defenses from overloading in Colstons direction.

I see something like 80/1400/12 for #12.

 
Colston played in slightly over 12 games, not 14. That might be important for some of you when making your projections.

 
Alot of receiving options in NO, Colston, Bush, Meachem, EJohnson, Henderson, Copper, i doubt Colston matches last years numbers, even in 16 games. I do think he hits 1000 yards and 8-9 TD's though.

 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :mellow:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :mellow:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
 
Meachum is promising, but Colston is a special player. Clearly someone who had elite ability that fell through the cracks because he played at Hofstra. What's the likelihood the Saints caught lightning in a bottle in consecutive seasons?

 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :goodposting:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :goodposting:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :goodposting:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :P
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :yes:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :)
I thik he'll be top-15 next year easy.Chris Leak on the other hand.... ;)
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :yes:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :)
I thik he'll be top-15 next year easy.Chris Leak on the other hand.... ;)
Hmmm...well we both loved Omar Jacobs so what the hell do we know :)
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. ;)
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :)
I thik he'll be top-15 next year easy.Chris Leak on the other hand.... :)
Hmmm...well we both loved Omar Jacobs so what the hell do we know :)
....true'dat. Time for another :yes:
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. ;)
:yes: Why because his 40 time is faster?I guess will find out soon enough but Meachem's numbers won't be anywhere close to Colston's. (85, 1200, 11)
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :lmao:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
I was not overly impressed with him no.
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :lmao:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :no:
I thik he'll be top-15 next year easy.Chris Leak on the other hand.... :)
Ainge top 15?Wow...Meachem was not impressive to me...Ainge is even worse.
 
Colston #1, Henderson #2, Copper #3. Where does Meachem fit in?

 
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LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :lmao:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :no:
I thik he'll be top-15 next year easy.Chris Leak on the other hand.... :)
Ainge top 15?Wow...Meachem was not impressive to me...Ainge is even worse.
Brohm is the only guy I feel will go head of Ainge. Woodson and Brennen will battle with him for QB2, but other then that....
 
Colston #1, Henderson #2, Copper #3. Where does Meachem fit in?
Saints depth chart has Copper listed across from Colston & Henderson behind Colston. Meachem not listed yet, but right now I think we can assume that he will line up across from Colston. It will probably look more like-Colston # 1, Meachem # 2, Henderson # 3, Copper # 4 (unless they cut either DH or TC, but I think it will be someone else) Don't forget about Bush and Eric Johnson, & they had good success when they went to the FB late in the season (I think it began when Payton blew big-D up!). So alot of players to get involved there.
 
The lack of respect Colston gets from "experts" is funny to me. Meachem dosn't belong in the same breath until he performs on the NFL stage.

 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :thumbdown:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :pirate:
I thik he'll be top-15 next year easy.Chris Leak on the other hand.... :hifive:
Ainge top 15?Wow...Meachem was not impressive to me...Ainge is even worse.
Brohm is the only guy I feel will go head of Ainge. Woodson and Brennen will battle with him for QB2, but other then that....
Henne will get a shot as well.
 
Colston #1, Henderson #2, Copper #3. Where does Meachem fit in?
Saints depth chart has Copper listed across from Colston & Henderson behind Colston. Meachem not listed yet, but right now I think we can assume that he will line up across from Colston. It will probably look more like-Colston # 1, Meachem # 2, Henderson # 3, Copper # 4 (unless they cut either DH or TC, but I think it will be someone else) Don't forget about Bush and Eric Johnson, & they had good success when they went to the FB late in the season (I think it began when Payton blew big-D up!). So alot of players to get involved there.
That's what I'm saying. I think Meacham is a heck of a prosepct, but , man, lotta guys expecting receptions in NO.
 
Colston #1, Henderson #2, Copper #3. Where does Meachem fit in?
Saints depth chart has Copper listed across from Colston & Henderson behind Colston. Meachem not listed yet, but right now I think we can assume that he will line up across from Colston. It will probably look more like-Colston # 1, Meachem # 2, Henderson # 3, Copper # 4 (unless they cut either DH or TC, but I think it will be someone else) Don't forget about Bush and Eric Johnson, & they had good success when they went to the FB late in the season (I think it began when Payton blew big-D up!). So alot of players to get involved there.
That's what I'm saying. I think Meacham is a heck of a prosepct, but , man, lotta guys expecting receptions in NO.
Bush is expected to be more a threat on the ground. He is training to run between the tackles while, conversely, Deuce is training to run outside more. Payton is making an effort to make Bush a more complete back. Consequently, I think Bush's receptions will be lower but even more so when the talent is there at the other offensive skill positions. Meachem is pencilled in at the #2 position while Devery is expected to continue the slot/#3 WR position. Copper and Patten are seen primarily as depth as is apparent when you consider both were signed to only 1-yr contracts.
 
Colston #1, Henderson #2, Copper #3. Where does Meachem fit in?
Saints depth chart has Copper listed across from Colston & Henderson behind Colston. Meachem not listed yet, but right now I think we can assume that he will line up across from Colston. It will probably look more like-Colston # 1, Meachem # 2, Henderson # 3, Copper # 4 (unless they cut either DH or TC, but I think it will be someone else) Don't forget about Bush and Eric Johnson, & they had good success when they went to the FB late in the season (I think it began when Payton blew big-D up!). So alot of players to get involved there.
That's what I'm saying. I think Meacham is a heck of a prosepct, but , man, lotta guys expecting receptions in NO.
Bush is expected to be more a threat on the ground. He is training to run between the tackles while, conversely, Deuce is training to run outside more. Payton is making an effort to make Bush a more complete back. Consequently, I think Bush's receptions will be lower but even more so when the talent is there at the other offensive skill positions. Meachem is pencilled in at the #2 position while Devery is expected to continue the slot/#3 WR position. Copper and Patten are seen primarily as depth as is apparent when you consider both were signed to only 1-yr contracts.
Oh, I am sure his receiving totals will drop. They have nowhere to go but down.But what's he dropping to? 75? 65? Bush can lose a ton of receptions, and still be the #2 receiver on this team.

I love taking WRs from good offensive teams. Even if they are down the depth chart a bit. But, on a team with maybe the best receiving back since Faulk, and a rookie sensation at WR, plus the addtition of a pass-catching WR, plus nice depth in Henderson and Copper.....whew. That's a lot of guys.

 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :yes:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :lmao:
I thik he'll be top-15 next year easy.Chris Leak on the other hand.... :lmao:
Ainge top 15?Wow...Meachem was not impressive to me...Ainge is even worse.
Brohm is the only guy I feel will go head of Ainge. Woodson and Brennen will battle with him for QB2, but other then that....
Thats only if Ainge can improve on last year...and not regress back to where he was 2 years ago. Care to watch the tape of his plays early in the LSU game? You think that guy is a top 15 pick?
 
LHUCKS said:
Meachem has more talent than Colston. :lmao:
Perhaps...though Colston will have the better year and better career if history of UT wide receivers stays true.The guy never impressed me while at Tennessee...and if not for a great combine would have never been talked about as a possible first round pick.
I have heard this a lot and have to genuinely question how much people of this position saw him play in06. There were stretches where he was flat out DOMINATING.
I saw basically every Tennessee game televised in the Nashville area.
...and you were not impressed by the Cal game? The LSU game? The Kentucky game? Air Force? Memphis?Interesting perspective.
Wasn't Erik Ainge going to be the top pick in the NFL draft? :goodposting:
I thik he'll be top-15 next year easy.Chris Leak on the other hand.... :lmao:
Ainge top 15?Wow...Meachem was not impressive to me...Ainge is even worse.
Brohm is the only guy I feel will go head of Ainge. Woodson and Brennen will battle with him for QB2, but other then that....
Thats only if Ainge can improve on last year...and not regress back to where he was 2 years ago. Care to watch the tape of his plays early in the LSU game? You think that guy is a top 15 pick?
What you've said goes for any prospect. Improvement + production + physical tools = top-15. Early in the LSU game? Are you kidding? HE WAS HURT and shouldn't have even been playing. Furthermore, can you show me a top-15 pick who didn't have a poor series, quarter, half, game a season and a half before they were drafted? That's part of playing football.Ainge is (1) at a school known for solid quarterbacks in a pro system (2) under the coaching of a guy who has produced 3 top-10 picks including two #1 overalls (3) 67% and 8.6ypa as a Junior (Quinn was 7.33 and 62%) and (4) 6'6", 220 lbs - the best size for the '08 prospects.Aside from playing poorly against one of the best teams in the country while he was hurt, what is it that is so unappealing about him?
 
If Meachem shines in camp and preseason and earns himself a starting spot, then I think it's appropriate to compare his talent level to Colston. One thing I learned last season, never underestimate anybody who is in a starting position. And as far as I know, Meachem isn't going to be handed the WR#2 role in that offense. The guy could be the next Jerry Rice, but it doesn't mean anything if he is standing on the sideline for 2/3 of the plays.

 
The only thing that matters is Brees loves Colston like he loved Gates, so you do the math!!!

Colston 86/1300/11

 
I actually think I would project Colston higher at this point. Meachum will attract attention. The rebuilt offense will be in their second year. I think he hurts Copper more at this point, but It'll be easier to sort out after camp ends.

 
Ainge will look fine until Bama turns him into Gino Torretta Part 2. If Meachem starts, thats the youngest starting WR corps in the NFL. Itll be scary in a couple years. I think they ease him into the lineup, but hey id have said the same thing about Colston last year. i dont believe Meachem has more talent than Colston until he proves it in the NFL!

 
I figure Meacham will impact every Saints WR negatively EXCEPT for Colston. They should be starters in a very high powered offense for years to come.

 
What you've said goes for any prospect. Improvement + production + physical tools = top-15. Early in the LSU game? Are you kidding? HE WAS HURT and shouldn't have even been playing. Furthermore, can you show me a top-15 pick who didn't have a poor series, quarter, half, game a season and a half before they were drafted? That's part of playing football.Ainge is (1) at a school known for solid quarterbacks in a pro system (2) under the coaching of a guy who has produced 3 top-10 picks including two #1 overalls (3) 67% and 8.6ypa as a Junior (Quinn was 7.33 and 62%) and (4) 6'6", 220 lbs - the best size for the '08 prospects.Aside from playing poorly against one of the best teams in the country while he was hurt, what is it that is so unappealing about him?
While it goes for every prospect...he was terrible in 2005...awful...going into last year the big question was whether he would even end up the starter all year long.And while he was hurt...is that an excuse for the spinning around with a defender and chucking it up for grabs? Oh, yeah...forgot to mention he was in his own endzone when doing so...threw the pick...and LSU scored.Such solid QBs like Heath Shuler? Tee Martin? Andy Kelly? Like Meachem and the UT WRs, there really is not a huge history of success with UT QBs. You have Manning...and that is about it.Though, the coaching of Cutcliffe is the one shining point.and don't put Quinn in there as DC really had nothing to do with his production considering he was on the staff how long? And it was not just that LSU game as far as Ainge goes...he could not even keep Rick Clausen off of the field.
 
UT's recent history at producing WR is not that great but...

Morgan, Gault, McGee, Harper, Miller, Pickens, Price, Paker and Stallworth are not all bad. At a certain level these guys were or are solid NFL players. The point(s) regarding the overall level of player UT has produced at QB and WR is noted. Conversely, that list of WR is fairly impressive for a university to have. They are just about producing an NFL caliber, 1st/2nd round talent every 4 years/class. It could be much worse.

I would not dispute the recent trend of UT WR and their lack of success in the NFL but, historically speaking, it is not that bad. Not everyone is destined to play 10 plus years or become J. Rice. Most college programs would be very proud to have that type of success especially at a single position.

Meachem is in a great situation and I am not sure that Henderson or Cooper pose any sort of long-term threat to his production. It is only a matter of time before Meachem starts taking their snaps. As far as production, I expect it to slip a little for the entire New Orleans passing offense. Also, it is premature to assume Brees continues to force the football to Colston, as he did Gates in San Diego.

Has Brees ever had a pair and or trio of very capable WR/TE? Colston is a GREAT talent and better story but I am not so sure he is a lock for 1,300 and 10 plus TD. Brees now has capable weapons on the outside; in the slot; maybe at TE and we all know about Bush. The open player is going to get the football and that might not always be Colston this season. There is more talent on the field.

Brees was on pace to break Marino's total passing yardage record through the last quarter of the season. Fun to watch and even better if you own a Saints player but it is hard to imagine the offense producing at that pace...again...this season.

All that said I am hoping Meachem falls to me in a current rookie draft. He has solid talent and is in a great situation where he is not the focus of the offense. He is not expected to be some sort of sideline gliding savior and he will be given time to develop and mature.

 
wasnt it more like 12 games he actually played in? I voted for improving on his numbers from last year, which I think he will do easily

 
...Meachem is pencilled in at the #2 position while Devery is expected to continue the slot/#3 WR position. ...
FWIW, Devery rarely is the slot receiver. In most of the 3 WR sets the Saints were running last year, he was split wide with Colston usually in the slot.
...Meachem is in a great situation and I am not sure that Henderson or Cooper pose any sort of long-term threat to his production. It is only a matter of time before Meachem starts taking their snaps. As far as production, I expect it to slip a little for the entire New Orleans passing offense. Also, it is premature to assume Brees continues to force the football to Colston, as he did Gates in San Diego. Has Brees ever had a pair and or trio of very capable WR/TE? Colston is a GREAT talent and better story but I am not so sure he is a lock for 1,300 and 10 plus TD. Brees now has capable weapons on the outside; in the slot; maybe at TE and we all know about Bush. The open player is going to get the football and that might not always be Colston this season. There is more talent on the field. Brees was on pace to break Marino's total passing yardage record through the last quarter of the season. Fun to watch and even better if you own a Saints player but it is hard to imagine the offense producing at that pace...again...this season.All that said I am hoping Meachem falls to me in a current rookie draft. He has solid talent and is in a great situation where he is not the focus of the offense. He is not expected to be some sort of sideline gliding savior and he will be given time to develop and mature.
Excellent post. Only thing I would add it, if Johnson can stay healthy, the offense will have a dimension in the middle of the field that they simply didn't have last year with the TE spot, and that should open things up even more on the outside for Colston, Meachem, and Henderson.
 
Seems like a pretty close poll, that's interesting, I am just hoping Colston doesn't go Michael Clayton on me. :confused:

 
Meachum is promising, but Colston is a special player. Clearly someone who had elite ability that fell through the cracks because he played at Hofstra.
absolutely, watching Colston and Brees play...while i say back and ignored Colston on the wire was heart-wrenching last season. Its clear as day! Even with Meachum stealing touches its hard to believe Drew will favor Robert over Colston. Then again we haven't seen them play together. But watching Brees and Marques last season is amazing for Colston owners.
 
There is more than enough to go around in the Saints passing offense. I think both Meachem and Colston could have great seasons.

 
I think Colston stays the same(a slight improvement due to playing more games) and the Meachem's catches come from the 93 catches of Horn/Henderson/Copper.

 
While it goes for every prospect...he was terrible in 2005...awful...going into last year the big question was whether he would even end up the starter all year long.
There were questions in 2005 about Jamarcus Russell remaining the starter for LSU. That worked out OK. There were questions, they were answered emphatically. What does your point prove, other then to suggest that Ainge was bad in 2005, which everyone admits?
And while he was hurt...is that an excuse for the spinning around with a defender and chucking it up for grabs? Oh, yeah...forgot to mention he was in his own endzone when doing so...threw the pick...and LSU scored.
Are you being serious? Actually, excellent point. Let's make sure that every college quarterback whose shoulder is dislocated playing against the best defense in the country who makes a mistake is banished to the CFL. :tinfoilhat:
Such solid QBs like Heath Shuler? Tee Martin? Andy Kelly? Like Meachem and the UT WRs, there really is not a huge history of success with UT QBs. You have Manning...and that is about it.
Please point out where I said he'd be a good NFL Qb? I was suggesting he'll be a high draft pick. Manning went 1st, Eli (a Cutcliffe product) went 1st, Shuler went 3rd, Martin went in the 5th, Kelly (who is the AFL's all time leading passer) and Helton chose baseball. Please name another offensive cordinator/QB coach to have 3 QBs go in the top 3 of the draft in the last 15 years. Will Answer Yours.Regarding the receivers, you could not be more incorrect. Even though you seem to be talking about NFL success as opposed to NFL draft position (which is what I've been talking about), I'll entertain your notion that UT Wrs have been poor.In reverse order, going back to 1991...(1st rounders only): Meachem, Stallworth, Marcus Nash, Carl Pickens, Alvin Harper(Other rounds): Mark Jones, Kelley Washington, Cedric Wilson, Peerless Price, Andy McCullough, Joey Kent, Nilo Silvan, Billy Williams, Cory Flemming, Anthony MOrgan The only first round bust has been Nash, who was a disaster. Otherwise, the names of Stallworth, Pickens, and Harper are hardly chicken scratch. Looking at the later round guys (I even included the 7th rounders for you), Washington was a decent WR3 until injuries did him in, now he's with New England. Wilson is still a starter. Price has had a solid, if unspectacular career. The rest have been some minor hits and minor misses. I'm a little unsure what measure of success you are looking for; please name one university that has had a higher percentage of drafted receivers turn out as productive NFL players.
Though, the coaching of Cutcliffe is the one shining point.
Glad you worked some sense in to your post. :thumbup:
and don't put Quinn in there as DC really had nothing to do with his production considering he was on the staff how long?
Who mentioned Brady Quinn?
And it was not just that LSU game as far as Ainge goes...he could not even keep Rick Clausen off of the field.
Claussen took over when Ainge was injured against Notre Dame. Until then, yes, Ainge had kept him off the field plenty.
 
While it goes for every prospect...he was terrible in 2005...awful...going into last year the big question was whether he would even end up the starter all year long.
There were questions in 2005 about Jamarcus Russell remaining the starter for LSU. That worked out OK. There were questions, they were answered emphatically. What does your point prove, other then to suggest that Ainge was bad in 2005, which everyone admits?
And while he was hurt...is that an excuse for the spinning around with a defender and chucking it up for grabs? Oh, yeah...forgot to mention he was in his own endzone when doing so...threw the pick...and LSU scored.
Are you being serious? Actually, excellent point. Let's make sure that every college quarterback whose shoulder is dislocated playing against the best defense in the country who makes a mistake is banished to the CFL. :thumbup:
Such solid QBs like Heath Shuler? Tee Martin? Andy Kelly? Like Meachem and the UT WRs, there really is not a huge history of success with UT QBs. You have Manning...and that is about it.
Please point out where I said he'd be a good NFL Qb? I was suggesting he'll be a high draft pick. Manning went 1st, Eli (a Cutcliffe product) went 1st, Shuler went 3rd, Martin went in the 5th, Kelly (who is the AFL's all time leading passer) and Helton chose baseball. Please name another offensive cordinator/QB coach to have 3 QBs go in the top 3 of the draft in the last 15 years. Will Answer Yours.Regarding the receivers, you could not be more incorrect. Even though you seem to be talking about NFL success as opposed to NFL draft position (which is what I've been talking about), I'll entertain your notion that UT Wrs have been poor.In reverse order, going back to 1991...(1st rounders only): Meachem, Stallworth, Marcus Nash, Carl Pickens, Alvin Harper(Other rounds): Mark Jones, Kelley Washington, Cedric Wilson, Peerless Price, Andy McCullough, Joey Kent, Nilo Silvan, Billy Williams, Cory Flemming, Anthony MOrgan The only first round bust has been Nash, who was a disaster. Otherwise, the names of Stallworth, Pickens, and Harper are hardly chicken scratch. Looking at the later round guys (I even included the 7th rounders for you), Washington was a decent WR3 until injuries did him in, now he's with New England. Wilson is still a starter. Price has had a solid, if unspectacular career. The rest have been some minor hits and minor misses. I'm a little unsure what measure of success you are looking for; please name one university that has had a higher percentage of drafted receivers turn out as productive NFL players.
Though, the coaching of Cutcliffe is the one shining point.
Glad you worked some sense in to your post. ;)
and don't put Quinn in there as DC really had nothing to do with his production considering he was on the staff how long?
Who mentioned Brady Quinn?
And it was not just that LSU game as far as Ainge goes...he could not even keep Rick Clausen off of the field.
Claussen took over when Ainge was injured against Notre Dame. Until then, yes, Ainge had kept him off the field plenty.
:confused: If I were a ref, I would stop the fight!
 
I honestly don't see Meachum sniffing the starting lineup until midseason at the earliest.
Do you mean as a #2 WR? I'm thinking you do but I just want to understand your thinking. And in general why do you think this? New Orleans seems kinda thin at WR after Colston.
 
I honestly don't see Meachum sniffing the starting lineup until midseason at the earliest.
Do you mean as a #2 WR? I'm thinking you do but I just want to understand your thinking. And in general why do you think this? New Orleans seems kinda thin at WR after Colston.
Yes, I mean as the WR2 opposite Marques Colston.I keep hearing about how thin the Saints are at WR [and it's not just on the boards, but by beat writers too] and that bewilders me.The Saints led the NFL last year in completions (373), passing yards (4,626) and were 4th in TDs (27). The lost Joe Horn who played only 10 games and made a major impact in exactly three of them. It's perfectly reasonable to expect Colston (2nd year), Henderson (3rd year), and Copper (4th year) to be on the upswing. Does this look like a team in need of a major contribution from Meachum?
 

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