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I really thought Mendenhall had top 5 potential this season and primed to have a career year.

Sunday's game was an aberration in terms of only getting 12 carries but I have two concerns moving forward. One is that Willie Colon, who most regard as the Steelers best offensive lineman is done for the season. The other is that I actually bought into the more involvement in the passing game coach speak yet Mendy didn't get a single catch (1 target) in a game where they threw the ball 41 times.

Any insight on what direction they go to replace Colon? Any local talk about getting Mendenhall more involved in the passing game?

 
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What happened to Mendy's colon? Botched surgery or minimalistic editor?

 
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Not concerned at all. He didn't have a favorable matchup week one vs Baltimore. He will get plenty of TDs.

 
'VaTerp said:
I really thought Mendenhall had top 5 potential this season and primed to have a career year.

Sunday's game was an aberration in terms of only getting 12 carries but I have two concerns moving forward. One is that Willie Colon, who most regard as the Steelers best offensive lineman is done for the season. The other is that I actually bought into the more involvement in the passing game coach speak yet Mendy didn't get a single catch (1 target) in a game where they threw the ball 41 times.

Any insight on what direction they go to replace Colon? Any local talk about getting Mendenhall more involved in the passing game?
He's not even in the same zip code as Pouncey.
 
'VaTerp said:
I really thought Mendenhall had top 5 potential this season and primed to have a career year.

Sunday's game was an aberration in terms of only getting 12 carries but I have two concerns moving forward. One is that Willie Colon, who most regard as the Steelers best offensive lineman is done for the season. The other is that I actually bought into the more involvement in the passing game coach speak yet Mendy didn't get a single catch (1 target) in a game where they threw the ball 41 times.

Any insight on what direction they go to replace Colon? Any local talk about getting Mendenhall more involved in the passing game?
He's not even in the same zip code as Pouncey.
I admit I was just repeating what I read somewhere. And the fact that Colon missed all of last season makes it less of a loss. Though they don't have Starks or Flozell this year but I'm assuming most don't consider them big losses.I guess my biggest concern is that Mendy only had 1 target on 41 throws but it's one week. Pittsburgh is not gonna have a game like that the rest of the season. I just hope they utilize him in the passing game more going forward. IMO he looked very good catching the ball in the pre-season.

 
1000-1100 and 7 tds
That would be a significant downgrade from last year when he went for over 1400 total yards and 13 TDs. And less than what he did in 09' in his first year as a starter.But I am still concerned that he hasnt seemed to hit his stride yet with Ben under the center. But it's still early and that schedule is cake. Early season overthinking on my part.
 
I fully expect Pittsburgh to throttle my Seahawks next week, but I don't expect Mendenhall to have a great day.

Seattle is fully committed to stopping the run. They did the same thing last year early in the season. They were the #2 run defense in the NFL through the first five weeks and then DE Red Bryant and DT Brandon Mebane were injured. Bryant is really like a DT playing DE. He's around 330 lbs. Seattle doesn't rush the passer well at all. Last week they only put one hit on QB Alex Smith and no sacks. IMO this equates to Roethlisberger having a field day ripping the Seattle secondary to shreds.

 
I was never high on Mendenhall this year for 2 reasons - he is not an impressive runner to me and his o-line is patchwork at best. With their o-line in even worse shape, I'm even less high on him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 ypc. The loss of Colon certainly doesn't help. They can only pray they can sign a veteran off the street because if past history is any guide, then there will be more injuries on the line.

 
I was never high on Mendenhall this year for 2 reasons - he is not an impressive runner to me and his o-line is patchwork at best. With their o-line in even worse shape, I'm even less high on him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 ypc. The loss of Colon certainly doesn't help. They can only pray they can sign a veteran off the street because if past history is any guide, then there will be more injuries on the line.

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I don't get this line of thinking. So Mendenhall is not an "impressive runner" to you. Do you think his skills have gotten worse than last year? If not, his schedule is absolute cake. Pittsburgh's line is always a mess and year after year their offense gets it done. Their D will keep them ahead (especially with this schedule) and Mendy will pound the ball in the 2nd half most of the year.

Man, are people really overreacting after 1 week, on the road, against a very good arch rival.

I'm trading for Big Ben and Mendy in every league I didn't have them already. It's the schedule people - it's the schedule!
 
Geez people. Mendy looked good against a stout D early on in that game. Rest of game was just an aberration.

If so many owners are feeling this way take advantage and swoop him up.

 
'VaTerp said:
I really thought Mendenhall had top 5 potential this season and primed to have a career year.Sunday's game was an aberration in terms of only getting 12 carries but I have two concerns moving forward. One is that Willie Colon, who most regard as the Steelers best offensive lineman is done for the season. The other is that I actually bought into the more involvement in the passing game coach speak yet Mendy didn't get a single catch (1 target) in a game where they threw the ball 41 times.Any insight on what direction they go to replace Colon? Any local talk about getting Mendenhall more involved in the passing game?
I don't think Colon's injury will hurt Mendenhall at all. As many have pointed out Colon missed all of last season. Also I don't know who started this "Colon is the best Steelers offensive lineman" nonsense because it was never true. Colon could possibly be a decent guard but as a tackle I thought he was merely average on his best days and decidedly less than average on his worst.I am not sure why the Steelers didn't throw more to Mendenhall or any of their backs last week. They were getting beat up front and it seems to me a few screens would have been a good way to perhaps slow the Ravens pass rush down a bit. The other thing that puzzled me is why the Steelers stopped running to the right because Mendy was getting some nice yardage over there.In any case I wouldn't worry about Mendenhall just yet. He is going to get plenty of carries and maybe an occasional reception if Bruce Arians gets imaginative and calls a screen once in a while (I swear he must consider screens a gadget play).
 
'VaTerp said:
I really thought Mendenhall had top 5 potential this season and primed to have a career year.Sunday's game was an aberration in terms of only getting 12 carries but I have two concerns moving forward. One is that Willie Colon, who most regard as the Steelers best offensive lineman is done for the season. The other is that I actually bought into the more involvement in the passing game coach speak yet Mendy didn't get a single catch (1 target) in a game where they threw the ball 41 times.Any insight on what direction they go to replace Colon? Any local talk about getting Mendenhall more involved in the passing game?
I don't think Colon's injury will hurt Mendenhall at all. As many have pointed out Colon missed all of last season. Also I don't know who started this "Colon is the best Steelers offensive lineman" nonsense because it was never true. Colon could possibly be a decent guard but as a tackle I thought he was merely average on his best days and decidedly less than average on his worst.I am not sure why the Steelers didn't throw more to Mendenhall or any of their backs last week. They were getting beat up front and it seems to me a few screens would have been a good way to perhaps slow the Ravens pass rush down a bit. The other thing that puzzled me is why the Steelers stopped running to the right because Mendy was getting some nice yardage over there.In any case I wouldn't worry about Mendenhall just yet. He is going to get plenty of carries and maybe an occasional reception if Bruce Arians gets imaginative and calls a screen once in a while (I swear he must consider screens a gadget play).
Never understood why PIT doesn't use Mendenhall more in the passing game....he showed decent receiving skills at Illinois.Anyway, hardest matchup is over, PIT's schedule is cake the rest of the way, and Mendenhall should get 20+ carries a game. He'll have a solid year.
 
Never understood why PIT doesn't use Mendenhall more in the passing game....he showed decent receiving skills at Illinois.
He's been very good in the pros too - 8.9/reception.I'd have to think it's a philosophical thing. The Steelers will typically run against the Ravens 25 times, mostly between the tackles, even when it's not producing much yardage. They want to be a physical, violent team and don't see screens and other dumpoffs as part of their A#1 battering ram's job.Just a guess obviously. Nothing else would make a lot of sense since he's a fine receiver and does really well when you get him in space.
 
I was never high on Mendenhall this year for 2 reasons - he is not an impressive runner to me and his o-line is patchwork at best. With their o-line in even worse shape, I'm even less high on him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 ypc. The loss of Colon certainly doesn't help. They can only pray they can sign a veteran off the street because if past history is any guide, then there will be more injuries on the line.
I don't get this line of thinking. So Mendenhall is not an "impressive runner" to you. Do you think his skills have gotten worse than last year? If not, his schedule is absolute cake. Pittsburgh's line is always a mess and year after year their offense gets it done. Their D will keep them ahead (especially with this schedule) and Mendy will pound the ball in the 2nd half most of the year.Man, are people really overreacting after 1 week, on the road, against a very good arch rival.I'm trading for Big Ben and Mendy in every league I didn't have them already. It's the schedule people - it's the schedule!
I'm not overreacting. I expected poor performances like this. He averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year and a whopping 23 receptions for 167 yards. He's in a great situation because there isn't another back stealing carries, but he's anything but an top talent. That's not 1st round talent to me. For my money, he's more like Tim Hightower (fantasy-production wise) than Ray Rice, but he was drafted just a pick or two after Rice in most leagues and 40-50 picks ahead of Hightower.
 
'VaTerp said:
I really thought Mendenhall had top 5 potential this season and primed to have a career year.Sunday's game was an aberration in terms of only getting 12 carries but I have two concerns moving forward. One is that Willie Colon, who most regard as the Steelers best offensive lineman is done for the season. The other is that I actually bought into the more involvement in the passing game coach speak yet Mendy didn't get a single catch (1 target) in a game where they threw the ball 41 times.Any insight on what direction they go to replace Colon? Any local talk about getting Mendenhall more involved in the passing game?
I don't think Colon's injury will hurt Mendenhall at all. As many have pointed out Colon missed all of last season. Also I don't know who started this "Colon is the best Steelers offensive lineman" nonsense because it was never true. Colon could possibly be a decent guard but as a tackle I thought he was merely average on his best days and decidedly less than average on his worst.I am not sure why the Steelers didn't throw more to Mendenhall or any of their backs last week. They were getting beat up front and it seems to me a few screens would have been a good way to perhaps slow the Ravens pass rush down a bit. The other thing that puzzled me is why the Steelers stopped running to the right because Mendy was getting some nice yardage over there.In any case I wouldn't worry about Mendenhall just yet. He is going to get plenty of carries and maybe an occasional reception if Bruce Arians gets imaginative and calls a screen once in a while (I swear he must consider screens a gadget play).
Replacing Colon at RT is Marcus Gilbert (2011 2nd rd pick from Florida), whom the coaching staff feels very strongly about. After seeing him play in limited action at LT during preseason(with the starting group mind you), I feel that he will be equal to or better than Colon. Colon was always susceptible to untimely penalties, not sure what the #'s were last week but I can remember vividly 2 holding calls and a false start that he committed last week.Mendenhall had 46 yds on 10 carries before the Steelers decided to air it out after getting behind in the score, not sure why we stopped running after being so successful after the 1st score. I think its way too early to throw in the towel on Mendenhall after the 1st week, on the road, against an opponent notoriously stout against the run.
 
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I was never high on Mendenhall this year for 2 reasons - he is not an impressive runner to me and his o-line is patchwork at best. With their o-line in even worse shape, I'm even less high on him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 ypc. The loss of Colon certainly doesn't help. They can only pray they can sign a veteran off the street because if past history is any guide, then there will be more injuries on the line.
Didn't the Steelers play most of last year with 3 of their 5 opening day starts out?
 
'VaTerp said:
I really thought Mendenhall had top 5 potential this season and primed to have a career year.Sunday's game was an aberration in terms of only getting 12 carries but I have two concerns moving forward. One is that Willie Colon, who most regard as the Steelers best offensive lineman is done for the season. The other is that I actually bought into the more involvement in the passing game coach speak yet Mendy didn't get a single catch (1 target) in a game where they threw the ball 41 times.Any insight on what direction they go to replace Colon? Any local talk about getting Mendenhall more involved in the passing game?
I don't think Colon's injury will hurt Mendenhall at all. As many have pointed out Colon missed all of last season. Also I don't know who started this "Colon is the best Steelers offensive lineman" nonsense because it was never true. Colon could possibly be a decent guard but as a tackle I thought he was merely average on his best days and decidedly less than average on his worst.I am not sure why the Steelers didn't throw more to Mendenhall or any of their backs last week. They were getting beat up front and it seems to me a few screens would have been a good way to perhaps slow the Ravens pass rush down a bit. The other thing that puzzled me is why the Steelers stopped running to the right because Mendy was getting some nice yardage over there.In any case I wouldn't worry about Mendenhall just yet. He is going to get plenty of carries and maybe an occasional reception if Bruce Arians gets imaginative and calls a screen once in a while (I swear he must consider screens a gadget play).
Replacing Colon at RT is Marcus Gilbert (2011 2nd rd pick from Florida), whom the coaching staff feels very strongly about. After seeing him play in limited action at LT during preseason(with the starting group mind you), I feel that he will be equal to or better than Colon. Colon was always susceptible to untimely penalties, not sure what the #'s were last week but I can remember vividly 2 holding calls and a false start that he committed last week.Mendenhall had 46 yds on 10 carries before the Steelers decided to air it out after getting behind in the score, not sure why we stopped running after being so successful after the 1st score. I think its way too early to throw in the towel on Mendenhall after the 1st week, on the road, against an opponent notoriously stout against the run.
:goodposting: This is the type of info I was hoping to get with this.For the record, I'm not panicking at all on Mendenhall. Just wanted some insight from Steelers homers or folks who follow them more closely than I do.
 
I fully expect Pittsburgh to throttle my Seahawks next week, but I don't expect Mendenhall to have a great day. Seattle is fully committed to stopping the run. They did the same thing last year early in the season. They were the #2 run defense in the NFL through the first five weeks and then DE Red Bryant and DT Brandon Mebane were injured. Bryant is really like a DT playing DE. He's around 330 lbs. Seattle doesn't rush the passer well at all. Last week they only put one hit on QB Alex Smith and no sacks. IMO this equates to Roethlisberger having a field day ripping the Seattle secondary to shreds.
This.Mendenhall is at the top of a lot of peoples rankings for this week, but he will not be the number one guy. I see another subpar game for Mendenhall. Roethlisberger on the other hand will likely have a very good game.
 
I was never high on Mendenhall this year for 2 reasons - he is not an impressive runner to me and his o-line is patchwork at best. With their o-line in even worse shape, I'm even less high on him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 ypc. The loss of Colon certainly doesn't help. They can only pray they can sign a veteran off the street because if past history is any guide, then there will be more injuries on the line.
I don't get this line of thinking. So Mendenhall is not an "impressive runner" to you. Do you think his skills have gotten worse than last year? If not, his schedule is absolute cake. Pittsburgh's line is always a mess and year after year their offense gets it done. Their D will keep them ahead (especially with this schedule) and Mendy will pound the ball in the 2nd half most of the year.Man, are people really overreacting after 1 week, on the road, against a very good arch rival.

I'm trading for Big Ben and Mendy in every league I didn't have them already. It's the schedule people - it's the schedule!
I'm not overreacting. I expected poor performances like this. He averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year and a whopping 23 receptions for 167 yards. He's in a great situation because there isn't another back stealing carries, but he's anything but an top talent. That's not 1st round talent to me. For my money, he's more like Tim Hightower (fantasy-production wise) than Ray Rice, but he was drafted just a pick or two after Rice in most leagues and 40-50 picks ahead of Hightower.
So are you saying you expect similiar FF production from Mendenahall and Hightower?I was not overly impressed with Mendenhall either when he first came out but I've become more impressed with him over the last two years. And FWIW, most people who evaluate talent for a living had a pretty high opinion of the guy coming out of college. In fact Mike Mayock, whose opinion I respect, had him as the top rated RB in a class that included Rice as well as Chris Johnson, McFadden, Jamaal Charles, Felix Jones, and Jonathan Stewart. Extremely impressive class now that I look at it.

Obviously Mendenhall was not the top talent in that class but IMO, Rice is not an uber talent either (he averaged a whopping .1 more ypc at 4.0 last year). He's a tough runner, who has a versatile skill set, and is used in all aspects of Baltimore's offensive gameplan. I think Mendy could do the same things if he was used that way.

But opinions on talent aside, you say that Mendenhall is in a great situation but think he is like Hightower fantasy production wise. So, I'm not sure what you're really saying here. You expect them to have similar years? Where do you think they both end up at the end of the season?

 
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I was never high on Mendenhall this year for 2 reasons - he is not an impressive runner to me and his o-line is patchwork at best. With their o-line in even worse shape, I'm even less high on him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 ypc. The loss of Colon certainly doesn't help. They can only pray they can sign a veteran off the street because if past history is any guide, then there will be more injuries on the line.
I don't get this line of thinking. So Mendenhall is not an "impressive runner" to you. Do you think his skills have gotten worse than last year? If not, his schedule is absolute cake. Pittsburgh's line is always a mess and year after year their offense gets it done. Their D will keep them ahead (especially with this schedule) and Mendy will pound the ball in the 2nd half most of the year.Man, are people really overreacting after 1 week, on the road, against a very good arch rival.I'm trading for Big Ben and Mendy in every league I didn't have them already. It's the schedule people - it's the schedule!
I'm not overreacting. I expected poor performances like this. He averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year and a whopping 23 receptions for 167 yards. He's in a great situation because there isn't another back stealing carries, but he's anything but an top talent. That's not 1st round talent to me. For my money, he's more like Tim Hightower (fantasy-production wise) than Ray Rice, but he was drafted just a pick or two after Rice in most leagues and 40-50 picks ahead of Hightower.
Mendy had twice as many TDs and more yards than Rice did last year, obviously Rice is more of a talent but in some cases he was drafted close to a full round higher than Mendy this is fantasy football Mendy will get %75 or more of the carries on a very good team with a very good offense that loves to run the ball. Hightower???? Just try to trade Hightower for Mendy in any league and see what happens. It's one week and people panic, the Steelers got behind early Big Ben was trying to force everything and the game turned really bad really fast for them, Mendy had 12 carries because they had to abandon the run by the 2nd quarter. If you think that Big Ben and the rest of the Steelers are going to be that bad in most games then yeah, Mendy will have a terrible season but if you believe that you obviously haven't watched football the last 5 seasons.
 
I was never high on Mendenhall this year for 2 reasons - he is not an impressive runner to me and his o-line is patchwork at best. With their o-line in even worse shape, I'm even less high on him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 ypc. The loss of Colon certainly doesn't help. They can only pray they can sign a veteran off the street because if past history is any guide, then there will be more injuries on the line.
I don't get this line of thinking. So Mendenhall is not an "impressive runner" to you. Do you think his skills have gotten worse than last year? If not, his schedule is absolute cake. Pittsburgh's line is always a mess and year after year their offense gets it done. Their D will keep them ahead (especially with this schedule) and Mendy will pound the ball in the 2nd half most of the year.Man, are people really overreacting after 1 week, on the road, against a very good arch rival.I'm trading for Big Ben and Mendy in every league I didn't have them already. It's the schedule people - it's the schedule!
I'm not overreacting. I expected poor performances like this. He averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year and a whopping 23 receptions for 167 yards. He's in a great situation because there isn't another back stealing carries, but he's anything but an top talent. That's not 1st round talent to me. For my money, he's more like Tim Hightower (fantasy-production wise) than Ray Rice, but he was drafted just a pick or two after Rice in most leagues and 40-50 picks ahead of Hightower.
The answer for me taking him at #10 overall was schedule. Of the 16 games the Steelers play this year, 10 of them are against the teams that the Chiefs schedule from last year. That schedule made the Chiefs the #1 rushing offense in football. Of the remaining 6 games they play:Easy matchups:KCCIN 2xHArd MAtchups:BALT 2xUnknown:NEEven if you don't believe in his talent, the opportunity is there for a top 5 year and a low floor.
 
Replacing Colon at RT is Marcus Gilbert (2011 2nd rd pick from Florida), whom the coaching staff feels very strongly about. After seeing him play in limited action at LT during preseason(with the starting group mind you), I feel that he will be equal to or better than Colon. Colon was always susceptible to untimely penalties, not sure what the #'s were last week but I can remember vividly 2 holding calls and a false start that he committed last week.
This is an excellent posting. Colon is a penalty machine. One of his holding calls last week wiped out a 50+ yard reception by Heath Miller. I won't say losing Colon is a good thing but like last year I have a feeling the Steelers o-line won't suffer all that much whether Gilbert or Essex starts.

 
I was never high on Mendenhall this year for 2 reasons - he is not an impressive runner to me and his o-line is patchwork at best. With their o-line in even worse shape, I'm even less high on him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 ypc. The loss of Colon certainly doesn't help. They can only pray they can sign a veteran off the street because if past history is any guide, then there will be more injuries on the line.
I don't get this line of thinking. So Mendenhall is not an "impressive runner" to you. Do you think his skills have gotten worse than last year? If not, his schedule is absolute cake. Pittsburgh's line is always a mess and year after year their offense gets it done. Their D will keep them ahead (especially with this schedule) and Mendy will pound the ball in the 2nd half most of the year.Man, are people really overreacting after 1 week, on the road, against a very good arch rival.

I'm trading for Big Ben and Mendy in every league I didn't have them already. It's the schedule people - it's the schedule!
I'm not overreacting. I expected poor performances like this. He averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year and a whopping 23 receptions for 167 yards. He's in a great situation because there isn't another back stealing carries, but he's anything but an top talent. That's not 1st round talent to me. For my money, he's more like Tim Hightower (fantasy-production wise) than Ray Rice, but he was drafted just a pick or two after Rice in most leagues and 40-50 picks ahead of Hightower.
So are you saying you expect similiar FF production from Mendenahall and Hightower?I was not overly impressed with Mendenhall either when he first came out but I've become more impressed with him over the last two years. And FWIW, most people who evaluate talent for a living had a pretty high opinion of the guy coming out of college. In fact Mike Mayock, whose opinion I respect, had him as the top rated RB in a class that included Rice as well as Chris Johnson, McFadden, Jamaal Charles, Felix Jones, and Jonathan Stewart. Extremely impressive class now that I look at it.

Obviously Mendenhall was not the top talent in that class but IMO, Rice is not an uber talent either (he averaged a whopping .1 more ypc at 4.0 last year). He's a tough runner, who has a versatile skill set, and is used in all aspects of Baltimore's offensive gameplan. I think Mendy could do the same things if he was used that way.

But opinions on talent aside, you say that Mendenhall is in a great situation but think he is like Hightower fantasy production wise. So, I'm not sure what you're really saying here. You expect them to have similar years? Where do you think they both end up at the end of the season?
Regarding Rice, I believe he's in a completely different situation this year. He had a knee injury last year, and they have the best fullback in football now. I do not see any comparison between Mendenhall and Ray Rice. Mendenhall has as much Shonn Greene in him as he does Ray Rice.I do think Mendenhall and Hightower end up with similar numbers. Mendenhall is less of a risk obviously, based on his track record and the team's commitment to him, so I would prefer him. But, I actually expect them to end up with around similar numbers. They both get a lion's share of the work. Washington's line is better, and Hightower will get much more work in the passing game. The TDs may or may not be there, but I think the rushing yardage will be close enough that the receiving yards make up the difference.

 

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