Mendenhall (1 Viewer)

[3nOut]

It looks like Mendenhall may be back in time to play week 5 after his bye week. That gives him three full weeks of practice in pads. And based on the reports coming out of Pittsburgh, he's been looking pretty good. if he's still available in your league, and you can afford the roster spot, it may be worth picking him up. The question is, what IS his worth? What can we expect of him moving forward? Will it be a RBBC or will he assume the starting role? Will he be startable? Will he post RB3 numbers or will he possibly be an RB2? Or will he only be worth being used as trade bait to upgrade another position? He will be worthy of a roster spot, but there are still so many questions.

 

[FF Ninja]

That o-line looks bad.

He was doing good to get 4.1 ypc before injury.

This is a new offense.

He'll almost certainly be in a time share.

Players not named Adrian Peterson need at least a full year to be halfway normal after an ACL injury.

That being said, if he's sitting in your free agent pool and you've got a guy you can drop then sure... take a shot. Just don't expect much.

 

[SteelerMurf]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.

Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.

Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

 

[pittstownkiller]

I would be suspect of Mend; he looked terrible before he got hurt last year and PIT hasn't looked that good running the ball for over a year now, but who knows - I just wouldn't reach for him.

 

[FF Ninja]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

 

[lbouchard]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

I think Redman has proved this year that it's much easier to maintain a higher YPC on backup carries than it is while carrying the full load.

 

[Phenix]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

You must own Redman. So easy to point out which guys own which players.People said the exact same stuff about ADP, while Mendy is not ADP, he is a good back and will be their best back even after injury. How bout this, you dont buy into the old fluff about the rep of ACL injuries.Technology has changed, this is not the ACL injuries of old.

 

[DoubleG]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

Almost all 3rd down/COP backs have better YPC than the early down/goal line guys. Using YPC as a factor trying to decide who is a better RB is largely useless in a vacuum. As an example, 3 of the top 5 RBs in YPC right now are Joe McKinight, DJ Ware and Shaun Draughn. Should they be starting over D. Martin, S. Greene and J. Charles? Probably not. Pitt's o-line has been bad at run blocking for years - and despite that, Mendenhall has maintained a fairly respectable YPC and had a couple of 1k+ yard seasons.

 

[packersfan]

Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.

I agree. I don't have a dog in this hunt but Redman and Dwyer have looked terrible so far. Maybe that changes tomorrow but if they suck again I don't see why Mendenhall would be sharing many touches with either of them. The concerns I have with Mendenhall are health coming back from a major injury and the Steelers' O line which looks bad in terms of run blocking again. But if he's healthy I would expect him to dominate the touches. As a result, I think he has low-end RB2 value.

 

[Childress]

That o-line looks bad.

He was doing good to get 4.1 ypc before injury.

This is a new offense.

He'll almost certainly be in a time share.

Players not named Adrian Peterson need at least a full year to be halfway normal after an ACL injury.

That being said, if he's sitting in your free agent pool and you've got a guy you can drop then sure... take a shot. Just don't expect much.

Someone in my league is impressed by his quick healing and is trying to get him from me. It's as if he forget Mendenhall was sort mediocre before the injury and that Oline has not improved.

 

[pittstownkiller]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.

Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.

Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

You must own Redman. So easy to point out which guys own which players.People said the exact same stuff about ADP, while Mendy is not ADP, he is a good back and will be their best back even after injury. How bout this, you dont buy into the old fluff about the rep of ACL injuries.

Technology has changed, this is not the ACL injuries of old.

Just ask Jamaal Charles.

 

[Phenix]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.

Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.

Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

You must own Redman. So easy to point out which guys own which players.People said the exact same stuff about ADP, while Mendy is not ADP, he is a good back and will be their best back even after injury. How bout this, you dont buy into the old fluff about the rep of ACL injuries.

Technology has changed, this is not the ACL injuries of old.

Just ask Jamaal Charles.

I'm sorry do you have more information than all of us? Share the link please of something saying for certain it is other than a bruise? I notice he practiced in full all week.

 

[pittstownkiller]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.

Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.

Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

You must own Redman. So easy to point out which guys own which players.People said the exact same stuff about ADP, while Mendy is not ADP, he is a good back and will be their best back even after injury. How bout this, you dont buy into the old fluff about the rep of ACL injuries.

Technology has changed, this is not the ACL injuries of old.

Just ask Jamaal Charles.

I'm sorry do you have more information than all of us? Share the link please of something saying for certain it is other than a bruise? I notice he practiced in full all week

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

I'd expect it will be a timeshare at least for a few weeks while the coaches see what Mendenhall can do and how his knee responds. I am very anxious to see Mendenhall utilized in Haley's screen game. I always thought Arians should have gotten him more involved in the passing game.

 

[Ghost of Bill Walsh]

We have a restricted roster where we can only carry 4RB's until after the byes. Weird I know but it works pretty good. I have DMC,Reggie Bush & BJGE and then I had Dwyer so heck yeah I dropped Dwyer to pick up Mendy. Probably the only way he sees the lineup is bye week fill in unless he comes out the gate blasting. Don't see that happening, especially with the Steelers O-line but he may be ok for Bye weeks until I see otherwise.

 

[x260bm]

If he is just sitting out there go pick him up. That's a no-brainer. As far as value is concerned, he is currently your classic hold. If you held on to him this long, there is no point in trading him away right before you see if your gamble paid off. On the other side of the coin, he likely can't be acquired cheaply enough to be worth the risk.

 

[Judge Smails]

Don't want any part of a running "attack" that is in the shotgun every 3rd and 1. They can't run the ball with any consistency

 

[SteelerMurf]

Don't want any part of a running "attack" that is in the shotgun every 3rd and 1. They can't run the ball with any consistency

Don't base your shotgun on 3rd and one off last years coordinator. They desperately want to run but Redman and Dryer simply are not every down backs in nfl. The oline is no worse off than last year. They have added a fullback and their offense is now more ball controlled long drives not chuck it up 50 yards every series.You will see very little time share after first couple weeks back and he will be just as productive as last year which is #2 rb

 

[SameSongNDance]

I heard the ACL tear will really help with all those unnecessary spin moves Mendy likes to do at the LOS.

 

[zandbak]

We have a restricted roster where we can only carry 4RB's until after the byes. Weird I know but it works pretty good. I have DMC,Reggie Bush & BJGE and then I had Dwyer so heck yeah I dropped Dwyer to pick up Mendy. Probably the only way he sees the lineup is bye week fill in unless he comes out the gate blasting. Don't see that happening, especially with the Steelers O-line but he may be ok for Bye weeks until I see otherwise.

Wow! Tell me more!

 

[pittstownkiller]

We have a restricted roster where we can only carry 4RB's until after the byes. Weird I know but it works pretty good. I have DMC,Reggie Bush & BJGE and then I had Dwyer so heck yeah I dropped Dwyer to pick up Mendy. Probably the only way he sees the lineup is bye week fill in unless he comes out the gate blasting. Don't see that happening, especially with the Steelers O-line but he may be ok for Bye weeks until I see otherwise.

Wow! Tell me more!

I actually think this is a pretty informative post in that he explains, and you can see, his thinking; it is a lot better than I picked up Mendenhall for Dwyer.

 

[FF Ninja]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.

Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.

Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

You must own Redman. So easy to point out which guys own which players.People said the exact same stuff about ADP, while Mendy is not ADP, he is a good back and will be their best back even after injury. How bout this, you dont buy into the old fluff about the rep of ACL injuries.

Technology has changed, this is not the ACL injuries of old.

Wamp Wamp.So easy to tell which people think they are smarter than they are!

Did not draft Redman in a single league (so not only do I not own him, but I've never owned him). I simply just don't think technology has somehow enhanced human regenerative capabilities to the point where a guy is the same as he was in less than a year after a major ACL injury.

As I've stated in other threads, ADP is much more likely the exception than the rule. So one RB comes back and looks good (not great) in one game and everyone thinks "OH! TECHNOLOGY MUST BE BETTER!". Hey, I'll be the first to admit that lightning could strike twice, but I wouldn't bet on it like some people seem to be doing.

People are also discounting how bad the run blocking has been. The line looks worse in this new offensive scheme than it did last year when a healthy Mendenhall put up a solid -wait for it- 3.9 ypc.

 

[FF Ninja]

I heard the ACL tear will really help with all those unnecessary spin moves Mendy likes to do at the LOS.

Someone on this board called him Rashard SpinThenFall in a preseason thread. Thought that was pretty quality.

 

[DoubleG]

From reports from pittsburgh he has not missed a step. I think he turns into a decent flex.

Timeshare? With who? All backups are proven to be just that and we see now why mendy had been getting like 90 percent of rb touches every game.

Haley likes his rbs involved in passing game and mendy is great at that but ariens never called it or had outlet dumpoffs

When was the last time you saw a report that a player coming back from injury looked slow and a shell of his former self? Don't read into the fluff.While Redman has not looked good this year, remember that he was more effective than Mendenhall last year on a per carry basis. The blocking has been poor this year. That could be line or scheme. Either way, Mendenhall will fall victim to it just as the others have.

You must own Redman. So easy to point out which guys own which players.People said the exact same stuff about ADP, while Mendy is not ADP, he is a good back and will be their best back even after injury. How bout this, you dont buy into the old fluff about the rep of ACL injuries.

Technology has changed, this is not the ACL injuries of old.

Wamp Wamp.So easy to tell which people think they are smarter than they are!

Did not draft Redman in a single league (so not only do I not own him, but I've never owned him). I simply just don't think technology has somehow enhanced human regenerative capabilities to the point where a guy is the same as he was in less than a year after a major ACL injury.

As I've stated in other threads, ADP is much more likely the exception than the rule. So one RB comes back and looks good (not great) in one game and everyone thinks "OH! TECHNOLOGY MUST BE BETTER!". Hey, I'll be the first to admit that lightning could strike twice, but I wouldn't bet on it like some people seem to be doing.

People are also discounting how bad the run blocking has been. The line looks worse in this new offensive scheme than it did last year when a healthy Mendenhall put up a solid -wait for it- 3.9 ypc.

Ummmm...but you do own Dwyer. So trying to make it sound like you're "objective" seems a bit insencere. Just sayin'BTW, your stats are wrong. Mendenhall was at 4.1 YPC through 15 games, not 3.9.

 

[FF Ninja]

He's at the very end of my bench in two leagues (one of them being a free league w/some old buddies, the other he's my RB8). It would be nice if he did enough so that I could package him with another guy on my bench at some point (probably the guy counting on Mendenhall), but seriously, I don't really have a vested interest in anyone in the PIT backfield. Just trying to be the voice of reason here.

 

[Phenix]

Typical guy who knows more then he actually does down playing a guy who can have an impact on his own players performance. The reason the Steelers run game blows is because Dwyer and Redman are not starting NFL backs.

Objective? Please you were just called out for obviously not being objective.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Great news for Mendenhall owners:

"I hope [Mendenhall's return] helps us a bunch," OC Todd Haley said. "... To get another difference-maker back will, hopefully, will be a big deal for us." The Post-Gazette expects Redman to assume primary backup duties, while Dwyer gets "squeezed out of the mix." Redman anticipates Mendenhall returning as the Steelers' "feature guy."

Sounds like Haley and Redman are both planning on Mendenhall being the guy.

 

[FF Ninja]

Typical guy who knows more then he actually does down playing a guy who can have an impact on his own players performance. The reason the Steelers run game blows is because Dwyer and Redman are not starting NFL backs.Objective? Please you were just called out for obviously not being objective.

It is funny that Dwyer and Redman were on PFF's list of top elusive backs in weeks 1 and 2, yet their averages were bad. This should tell us all that the run game just isn't going to be good. And perhaps you missed my post, but no, I did not get called out for not being objective. Another bitter soul clinging to the hope that Mendy will save his season made the accusation, but it wasn't true. Yes, I've got Dwyer on the end of my bench but that really doesn't matter. These are deep benches and he's first on the cut list. I never expected him to crack my lineup, even during bye weeks. I think Mendenhall is a pure lottery ticket right now. Guy looked bad the last two years, now he's coming back early from an ACL on a team with basically no run blocking. Proceed with caution.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Starting him this week with confidence.



Well, that and I have two RBs hurt and two on a bye.

 

[pittstownkiller]

Starting him this week with confidence.Well, that and I have two RBs hurt and two on a bye.

Well I am confident that Mendenhall will do no worse than those four, for you.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Starting him this week with confidence.Well, that and I have two RBs hurt and two on a bye.

Well I am confident that Mendenhall will do no worse than those four, for you.

I could always pick Bolden. But it's probably Woodhead's turn.In all seriousness, if he gets 15 touches his first week back, I'd be thrilled. Hate relying on him this week, though.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Problem with Week 5 is that he's playing the Eagles. Probably won't learn much in that game except to find out whether or not Mendenhall is able to take reps and to confirm that the Steelers' o-line is easily overwhelmed.

 

[Nucker101]

The Steelers just can't run the ball this year, I'm a big believer in Mendenhall's talent but he's coming off of a significant injury and the Steelers run blocking is just horrible. Mike Adams looks like a wasted pick to me. I don't expect Mendenhall to be anything more than a flex play at best.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Too early to give up on the Steelers run game. Colon will improve at LG it's still a new position for him, DeCastro should return at some point at RG. Pouncey has played poorly the first three weeks...the OL just needs some time to come together. I expect Mendenhall will be heavily involved in the new screen game, he was consistently underused by Arians there. He's got good hands and runs well in open space. I expect him to make a big impact in the fantasy playoffs for those who grabbed him.

 

[Shutout]

Too early to give up on the Steelers run game. Colon will improve at LG it's still a new position for him, DeCastro should return at some point at RG. Pouncey has played poorly the first three weeks...the OL just needs some time to come together. I expect Mendenhall will be heavily involved in the new screen game, he was consistently underused by Arians there. He's got good hands and runs well in open space. I expect him to make a big impact in the fantasy playoffs for those who grabbed him.

I'm not sure we have that kind of time. Our FF seasons are only 13-16 weeks long. I really think this is a TRUE reshaping year for the steelers. The production will be there but I can't expect consistency. I think, at best, Mendy is a Bradshaw type (full of hits and misses, depending largely on the team they play that week).

 

[FF Ninja]

Starting him this week with confidence.Well, that and I have two RBs hurt and two on a bye.

Well I am confident that Mendenhall will do no worse than those four, for you.

I'm only semi-confident that is true. I think it was week 2 that Redman had a higher yards after contact per carry number than his actual yards per carry number. If Mendenhall is getting hit behind the line of scrimmage and the spin move isn't working, week 5 could be ugly.

 

[EBF]

I thought Dwyer might have a chance to do something in Mendy's absence, but he didn't capitalize.

I don't see any reason why Mendenhall can't take the job and put up decent numbers. He's been a solid player for a long time and he's still in the prime of his career. He's about 10 months removed from the ACL. Should be about ready to roll.

 

[DoubleG]

I thought Dwyer might have a chance to do something in Mendy's absence, but he didn't capitalize.I don't see any reason why Mendenhall can't take the job and put up decent numbers. He's been a solid player for a long time and he's still in the prime of his career. He's about 10 months removed from the ACL. Should be about ready to roll.

I've been trying to tell people this since before week 1. No one ever listens to me. Maybe it's because I talk funny.

 

[therush]

What about as a PPR option?

 

[Shawn]

i wouldn't waste a waiver on him but if i could get him after waivers processed i probably would.

 

[scothawk]

i wouldn't waste a waiver on him but if i could get him after waivers processed i probably would.

He wont be there after waivers. He really shouldnt be there right now.Ok we are assumign he does something, but I dont see his risk in doing somethign any different from other RBs who are coming back from injury or into the league. And they dont tend to hit waivers.And for the slightly more ambitious, his playoff shedule looks OK too.

 

[DoubleG]

i wouldn't waste a waiver on him but if i could get him after waivers processed i probably would.

He wont be there after waivers. He really shouldnt be there right now.

How many other 25 year old RBs that have multiple 1000 yard seasons and that are averaging 1K and double digit TDs over the last 3 seasons are on WW? Some big silliniess going on in here.

 

[Grand Poobah]

i wouldn't waste a waiver on him but if i could get him after waivers processed i probably would.

He wont be there after waivers. He really shouldnt be there right now.

How many other 25 year old RBs that have multiple 1000 yard seasons and that are averaging 1K and double digit TDs over the last 3 seasons are on WW? Some big silliniess going on in here.

I agreeYou either drafted him late or picked him up from the ww. Not much risk.

 

[FF Ninja]

i wouldn't waste a waiver on him but if i could get him after waivers processed i probably would.

He wont be there after waivers. He really shouldnt be there right now.

How many other 25 year old RBs that have multiple 1000 yard seasons and that are averaging 1K and double digit TDs over the last 3 seasons are on WW? Some big silliniess going on in here.

How many guys who have a sub 4.0 ypc average over the last two years are worst rostering? How many guys who come back from ACL injuries in less than 12 months are effective? How many guys can be productive behind an o-line that can't run block?I know some of you are in a pinch and you need some hope to grasp to, but let's be realistic - Mendenhall is nothing more than a flyer. Maybe the line gels and maybe Mendenhall looks better after a torn ACL than before, but if you had to put money on it, which way would you bet?

 

[BobbyLayne]

"[Mendenhall] will come in and be the feature guy, and that keeps me on the sidelines and we will come in to spell him. I think Rashard has that gifted ability to make those quick cuts and get to the outside and have those big, long, breakaway runs."

- Isaac Redman

 

[shadyridr]

He was just traded for Brandon Marshall in my league

 

[RamMan]

I was just offered Colston for my Mendy. Thinking about it....

 

[TheCommish]

I was just offered Colston for my Mendy. Thinking about it....

What's to think about? If someone offered me Colston, I wouldn't hesitate to make that deal.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

@dlolleyor: Tomlin on Mendenhall." He's our lead dog."

@EdBouchette: Tomlin virtually confirms that Mendenhall will play Sunday. Asked if he is ready, he said he'll let us know by 4:30 Sunday, i.e. post-game.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Too early to give up on the Steelers run game. Colon will improve at LG it's still a new position for him, DeCastro should return at some point at RG. Pouncey has played poorly the first three weeks...the OL just needs some time to come together. I expect Mendenhall will be heavily involved in the new screen game, he was consistently underused by Arians there. He's got good hands and runs well in open space. I expect him to make a big impact in the fantasy playoffs for those who grabbed him.

I'm not sure we have that kind of time. Our FF seasons are only 13-16 weeks long. I really think this is a TRUE reshaping year for the steelers. The production will be there but I can't expect consistency. I think, at best, Mendy is a Bradshaw type (full of hits and misses, depending largely on the team they play that week).

We will see, my only concern with Mendenhall is how his knee responds. He's been a full participant in practice the past few weeks with no issues so I hope he's ready. The Steelers OL is no worse than it was last year when Mendenhall averaged 4.1 YPC with 9 TD. The Steelers offense has been very good without Mendenhall this year, he won't have to be a workhorse and will have plenty of scoring opportunities. I've posted it above but I expect Haley to use Mendenhall in the passing game much more than Arians did the last few years. Throw in Colon gaining experience at LG and the return of DeCastro at RG and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Mendenhall as a top 5-10 RB over the 2nd half of the season. He's also playing for a contract in 2013.