Michael Vick Trade Value (1 Viewer)

[Raiderfan32904]

Trade deadline is fast approaching. In my leagues, we can trade up unto to this Sunday’s kickoff. I am happy to have traded for Mike Vick weeks ago. 9-1, and I’m inclined to ride him to the FF championship. But if someone were to offer say P. Rivers plus a WR2, I may do that deal.

What do you think is his shotgun trade value going into the deadline? Any recent deals done?

 

[footballnerd]

horrible time to trade for him, you have a better shot at picking up the owners original starting QB.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Trade deadline is fast approaching. In my leagues, we can trade up unto to this Sunday’s kickoff. I am happy to have traded for Mike Vick weeks ago. 9-1, and I’m inclined to ride him to the FF championship. But if someone were to offer say P. Rivers plus a WR2, I may do that deal. What do you think is his shotgun trade value going into the deadline? Any recent deals done?

Traded Andre for Vick & Wallace last week. Wouldn't be able to get that deal this week. Might be tough to gauge Vick's value based on trades done prior to yesterday.

 

[Hendo]

Incredibly overrated right now after that game. I wouldn't give up rivers, brees, rodgers let alone them plus a WR2 for vick.

 

[NoCheese]

Incredibly overrated right now after that game. I wouldn't give up rivers, brees, rodgers let alone them plus a WR2 for vick.

Would easily rather have Vick than Brees, slightly over Rodgers, and Rivers would be a push.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Incredibly overrated right now after that game. I wouldn't give up rivers, brees, rodgers let alone them plus a WR2 for vick.

I have Vick and would decline any of those offers. I would need a WR/RB upgrade and still probably would decline.

 

[Richard_the_Vampire]

I don't think any owner should trade him. With the exception of the first game against Washington, Vick has produced stellar fantasy numbers in each of his starts. He is precisely the kind of player that produces fantasy championships, much like Larry Johnson was back in 2005. If you own him, hold on to him.

 

[NoCheese]

I don't think any owner should trade him. With the exception of the first game against Washington, Vick has produced stellar fantasy numbers in each of his starts. He is precisely the kind of player that produces fantasy championships, much like Larry Johnson was back in 2005. If you own him, hold on to him.

If someone came in with a Rivers or Rodgers plus Nicks combo I'd have no other choice, but yeah it would have to be an offer I couldn't refuse.

 

[chinawildman]

You know those old school video game shooters where you can get a little mini ship on your side that also shoots and acts like shield when you get hit so you don't die? That's what Vick as a FF qb reminds me of... his running ability is like having an extra mini-flex player.

 

[Horses Mouth]

imo, last night was an anomaly and depending on your scoring, Vick might not be worth as much as you think. for example, in my league, we have a huge 300 yard bonus which he rarely hits. Last night he killed it, and is a great time to trade him away in certain scoring leagues.

 

[Sweet Love]

Vick has "peyton Hillis" syndrome. Everyone is waiting for the shoe to fall off, and it is just not happening. I own Hillis in three separate leagues and while I would be very reluctant to move him, I also have not had one offer for him all season in any of those leagues. People know you are going to want a lot and also are hesitant to trade for a guy playing above his head (regarless for how long it has been).

 

[chinawildman]

imo, last night was an anomaly and depending on your scoring, Vick might not be worth as much as you think. for example, in my league, we have a huge 300 yard bonus which he rarely hits. Last night he killed it, and is a great time to trade him away in certain scoring leagues.

Ok if you completely toss out last night's game... and add the 1st qt of his first skins game to the 3 qts he played against GB and count that as one game. Then in my league he avgs 26pts a game. Next highest is Rivers at 20.5/game. That's a whole touchdown difference a game, and this ISN'T COUNTING last night's monstrosity.Outside of injury, I see nothing that suggests he won't continue at this torrid pace.

 

[Firekaps]

Vick has "peyton Hillis" syndrome. Everyone is waiting for the shoe to fall off, and it is just not happening. I own Hillis in three separate leagues and while I would be very reluctant to move him, I also have not had one offer for him all season in any of those leagues. People know you are going to want a lot and also are hesitant to trade for a guy playing above his head (regarless for how long it has been).

Add Brandon Lloyd to this syndrome.

 

[NoCheese]

imo, last night was an anomaly and depending on your scoring, Vick might not be worth as much as you think. for example, in my league, we have a huge 300 yard bonus which he rarely hits. Last night he killed it, and is a great time to trade him away in certain scoring leagues.

Ok if you completely toss out last night's game... and add the 1st qt of his first skins game to the 3 qts he played against GB and count that as one game. Then in my league he avgs 26pts a game. Next highest is Rivers at 20.5/game. That's a whole touchdown difference a game, and this ISN'T COUNTING last night's monstrosity.Outside of injury, I see nothing that suggests he won't continue at this torrid pace.

I see no reason you have to use sound logic like this. It would be a lot easier just to say he's not worth that much and ignore the facts.

 

[ScottyDog]

I don't think I would trade him for even Chuck Norris.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

imo, last night was an anomaly and depending on your scoring, Vick might not be worth as much as you think. for example, in my league, we have a huge 300 yard bonus which he rarely hits. Last night he killed it, and is a great time to trade him away in certain scoring leagues.

Ok if you completely toss out last night's game... and add the 1st qt of his first skins game to the 3 qts he played against GB and count that as one game. Then in my league he avgs 26pts a game. Next highest is Rivers at 20.5/game. That's a whole touchdown difference a game, and this ISN'T COUNTING last night's monstrosity.Outside of injury, I see nothing that suggests he won't continue at this torrid pace.

Yes, he's easily the leader in fantasy points per game.Only an injury can stop him, but that's a realistic concern.Vick owners should just ride the wave, unless he's their lone asset and they're desperate for help at other positions.But if you're in first place and have the luxury of Mike Vick....pat yourself on the back.

 

[BlackMagic10]

Would have to be quite the offer for me to trade him away. He's got the potential to carry a team into the playoffs and if he keeps up his play I would definitely consider forfeiting my 1st rd pick next year in order to keep him on my squad.

 

[Clifford]

Ok, so after Vick piloting me to a miraculous comeback I got a question about what the price would be. I told the other owner it would basically be whoever I wanted from his team and he said ok. Caveat being the other team is second to last with no shot, and we can only keep one player drafted after round six, and player can't be kept two years in a row. Vick is eligible, and on top of that we can start 2QBs which basically makes him the most valuable player in the league.

I am about to offer Kevin Smith, Sydney Rice, Vick, and Ryan Mathews for Hillis, Sjax, Chicago Defense, and Kitna. Thing is, I am actually having trouble making the offer. I desperately need a RB2, and this would give me two great RBs to start alongside Gore, and my keeper could be Hillis or Dez Bryant for next year.

ETA: Upped the offer to get TO for Steve Johnson

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Reading some of the responses, I am trying to temper my optimism. Obviously, he wont repeat that performance again (I don't think), but in the games he plays, he consistently gives you a TD or more advantage over other elite QBs.

It's like having another player in your starting lineup. The FF equivalent of 12 man on the field.

People concerned about his health are overthinking this. Vick's elusive running style, knowing where he's at, giving up at the right time or sliding out of bounds, makes me think he is going to hold up well. With just 6 weeks in the FF season, it's a sprint to the finish. I'd feel more comfortable with him on my roster than a Rivers and another WR#2.

Hard to say this, but unless the offer is absolutely unreal, I won't trade Vick. He's an unfair advantage.

 

[menobrown]

He's the best player in fantasy football. I'd normally not say that about a QB but than Vick is really more than just a QB. Based on just passing numbers he's a top 5 QB while at the same time offering you non-PPR top 20 RB numbers.

He did well enough in his half against GB were I could count that game but I chose not to nor do I judge him by his one bad game were he got knocked out early. In the 4 games he has started and finished he has a low of 25.9 PPG. Compare that to Rivers who averages less than that. Compare that to a guy like Peyton Manning who averaged numbers like that during his record breaking season. That's Vick's low game we are talking about. He is averaging 35.6 PPG.Brady in what I think is the best fantasy year by a QB put up around 29 PPG based on a standard scoring of 4 points for TD's and -1 for INT.

As just a QB and looking only at passing numbers Vick is putting up 24.075 fantasy points per game which puts him right near Rivers. As a runner Vick is averaging 11.525 fantasy points per game which puts him right on pace with Ray Rice and Javhid Best. That's what Vick is like. He's like starting Rivers and Best all in one player in non-PPR leagues.

Last nights game was huge but it was no aberration either. 25.9, 35.55, 28.3 and 52.65 are his fantasy points in full games for standard scoring leagues. Add to that he broke 20 fantasy points in a half against GB.

To those who think it's folly to throw out Vicks the GB game were he entered just before half and Washington game he got hurt and left in the first quarter I submit this. Kevin Kolb is no were near the fantasy QB that Vick is but if you combine their total season points you still have a situation were the Philly Qb's are averaging nearly 28 fantasy points per game and that's with Kold dragging the numbers down.

 

[steelwind]

The Vick owner would want an AP, CJ at LEAST value in return. Possibly asking for AP + Peyton Manning for Vick type of transaction. The person trading for Vick would have to really over pay because the Vick owner would need an offer to even consider letting go a fantasy player who just gave them 50 points.

This is a no win situation. This is not the time to trade or trade for Vick. It's a hold.

 

[Velvet Revolver]

I've dangled Vick for Rice & Wayne - I could use upgrades at both positions and have decent Qb's backing him up.

Not to be a party pooper (he won my game for me this week obviously) - but it was against Wash. Do owners think he can do the same vs better D's like the Giants coming up?

 

[Comer]

Before last weeks game I traded Vick for Marshal in a keeper dynasty league, I already have Rivers so Vick was not needed.

 

[habsfan]

The rushing TDs put him in his own tier right now (4 in 6 games). Then there's the whole passing thing...

 

[TeamSnooki]

Guess I'm in the minority, but I just traded Vick for Andre.

I have Brees and had a huge hole at WR2. I had to make a move for a WR, decided to trade Vick instead of Brees because of the injury risk and his increased value.

I feel like I gained 5-6 pts a week at WR so even if I lose that in Brees vs Vick, I get added equity in not trying to figure out what QB or WR to start each week. So unless Vick beats me in the championship (a very real possibility), I won't be pulling my hair out.

I think I at least broke even with some upside and less risk. I guess we'll see. Maybe if I had a 2nd WR in the top 25, I would have kept him.

 

[Romofan]

I own him and wouldn't trade him for anything for all the reasons listed above. He is a top 5 QB and a flex RB all wrapped up in one. That said if I were trying to trade for him I can only imagine one perfect scenario where the other owner has Manning or Rivers + Vick and has a glaring weakness at a position That i have extreme depth at....you'd have to be able to upgrade at least 2 other positions in his roster to top 5 level production and be willing to get scrubs in return and then rolling with your depth at that position.

But I think the real shark move is if you have a Manning or Brady or Brees and Vick .... Trade away the big name QB to upgrade another skill position and ride Vick to your championship.

 

[Andrew74]

Anyone done a dynasty trade with Vick? I have a solid QB in Ryan and am thinking of trading to get some good youth at RB and/or WR.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Before the MNF game the Vick owner offered him to me for McFadden...and I passed

 

[kornbred]

Traded Vick away two weeks ago in a 12 man redraft, I had Eli as my starter. I gave Vick, Bradshaw and Steve Johnson for AP and Malcom Floyd. I have Chris Johnson as well. Couldn't pass it up but have to admit I have some traders remorse today.

 

[MNTom]

I've dangled Vick for Rice & Wayne - I could use upgrades at both positions and have decent Qb's backing him up.Not to be a party pooper (he won my game for me this week obviously) - but it was against Wash. Do owners think he can do the same vs better D's like the Giants coming up?

I doubt he can match last night's game. But if Jon Kitna can light up a defense, I would think Vick will have no problem putting up stellar numbers against the Giants.

 

[I was in the pool]

Back in week 2, Vick's value was Brandon Jackson - at least that's what it took for me to acquire him in one of my leagues....Championship - chicken dinner.

 

[fsufan]

i traded for vick right before he got hurt, 4 or 5 weeks ago. gave 2011 first round pick and palmer

then

i put him on the trade block about a week before my dynasty leagues trade deadline of week 10. got no offers. glad i didnt, going to ride him to the end

 

[fsufan]

Anyone done a dynasty trade with Vick? I have a solid QB in Ryan and am thinking of trading to get some good youth at RB and/or WR.

gave 2011 1st and palmer for vick and 2011 2nd

 

[Sanboy]

last week traded Schaub for Vick and 2 rd rookie pick

no way i get that trade this week

 

[abricru]

last week traded Schaub for Vick and 2 rd rookie pick no way i get that trade this week

I offered a guy Vick and Jacoby Jones for Stafford and Emanuel Sanders (dynasty) right before Stafford got hurt. He laughed and said he wasn't going to give away his #1 draft pick for "scraps." Whew! So glad he rejected that trade

 

[ScottyDog]

I think the shark move would have been to trade Brees. My goodness, Vick has D. Jackson, Maclin, and Avant as his play toys.

Guess I'm in the minority, but I just traded Vick for Andre.I have Brees and had a huge hole at WR2. I had to make a move for a WR, decided to trade Vick instead of Brees because of the injury risk and his increased value.I feel like I gained 5-6 pts a week at WR so even if I lose that in Brees vs Vick, I get added equity in not trying to figure out what QB or WR to start each week. So unless Vick beats me in the championship (a very real possibility), I won't be pulling my hair out.I think I at least broke even with some upside and less risk. I guess we'll see. Maybe if I had a 2nd WR in the top 25, I would have kept him.

 

[Keith1]

last week traded Schaub for Vick and 2 rd rookie pick no way i get that trade this week

last Friday, just before my trade deadline, I pulled off: Bowe, Addai and Tamme, for Vick and Fred Jackson.After this weekend, the guy who traded Vick and FJax to me says I owe him a dinner at Peter Luger's. If Vick takes me to the championship, I will very gladly pay for the porterhouse for 2.

 

[monkeysee]

Not even worth exploring trades for Vick. I am sure a few Vick owners are going to make a killing though. Just not off me. Had a guy in a league complaining why he wasn't getting more offers for Vick, who he has on the block. So I fire out a 2011 1st round rookie pick or Sid Rice to open the disucssion and he counters with my Hakeem Nicks and and my 1st rounder. So funny.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

You know those old school video game shooters where you can get a little mini ship on your side that also shoots and acts like shield when you get hit so you don't die? That's what Vick as a FF qb reminds me of... his running ability is like having an extra mini-flex player.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

imo, last night was an anomaly and depending on your scoring, Vick might not be worth as much as you think. for example, in my league, we have a huge 300 yard bonus which he rarely hits. Last night he killed it, and is a great time to trade him away in certain scoring leagues.

I think u r living in the past. The 'new look'/pass first vick will be routinely breaking 300 yds passing. If he doesn't, it's because he gained so many on the ground that they pulled him early, and those running yards are soooooo valuable. It's unbelievable how much difference they make.