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I do think that there are a few people paying that. Emphasis on "a few."I don't think there are "many" by any definition of the word, thus, Bachmann was being misleading.
Fair enough. :excited:
Is it "fair"? That's a pretty deep philosophical question, and beside the point in my opinion. I do think that people tend to mistakenly value real dollars gained or lost instead of the average marginal utility of additional dollars of income when assessing "fairness" of taxation. But that's neither here nor there. The point is that the woman is full of it.
I think she should have used "go to the mattresses" instead of "slit our wrists". Sure she's full of it. But why she's being singled out like she is is a bit disingenuous to me.To be totally honest, I don't pay much attention to what Bachmann has to say. Is she really out there in the media that much?
She is being singled out because she is thorn in the liberal ####.
 
Mine was more of a general statement than about Bachmann herself - the question was how to these people keep getting elected (loons from both sides).
Sorry, I didn't even read your statment all the way through.Were you referring to he statement about fearing that Obama's policies might be un-American? Because I have an opinion on that, as you might imagine.
I'm interested in your take on that, if you don't mind. I'll keep an open mind.
This wasn't an interview it was an interrogation. Mathews was playing gotta journalism. I would love to see him interview Obama with the same hostile style.
 
Bachmann also claimed that many Americans pay more than half their income in taxes, adding "it's nothing more than slavery."
She's correct on this one.
:unsure: Clearly you have no clue what it means to be a slave.
slavery: the state of being under the control of another person

Tell you what, you stop paying your taxes and tell me how much control you have.
Her math skills also leave something to be desired. More than half of their income? Really? Maybe if you're pulling down a high-seven-figure income and live in one of a handful of states with high state tax rates. You think those people feel like slaves? Go ahead, pitch that one to the masses, Michelle. I'm sure it will go over well.
How much are we taxed?It could be about 50%.

 
She is being singled out because she is thorn in the liberal ####.
It's really sad that you believe this. And the truth is almost exactly the opposite. Bachmann is a thorn to conservatives; liberals love her. They hope she's around forever.
What do you think of Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Al Franken, Henry Waxman...? There is no doubt the left has targeted her and hate her with a passion. They would not be doing this is they wanted her around.
 
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She is being singled out because she is thorn in the liberal ####.
It's really sad that you believe this. And the truth is almost exactly the opposite. Bachmann is a thorn to conservatives; liberals love her. They hope she's around forever.
What do you think of Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Al Franken, Henry Waxman...? There is no doubt the left has targeted her and hate her with a passion.
1. I actually sort of like Nancy Pelosi. I disagree with many (most?) of her economic views, but I admire that she is very effective, far more so than Harry Reid. And I think she is very brave for standing up for gay rights.2. I despise Maxine Waters. She is a racist, angry woman whom I don't think is very bright. 3. Al Franken is very liberal, so we don't share many beliefs. But he is funny, extremely smart, and entertaining. Prior to becoming senator Franken spent an enormous amount of time and energy with the USO entertaining troops abroad, and has given a great deal of his money to helping veterans. So I also think he's a pretty good guy.4. Henry Waxman is a humorless ideologue. I haven't spent enough time studying him to decide if I like him or not. None of these people are as crazy as Bachmann, though Waters is probably more despicable.
 
None of these people are as crazy as Bachmann, though Waters is probably more despicable.
Waters is awful. She's about as bright as Bachmann and equally unqualified for her job. Bachmann is far more visible and contentious in her rhetoric. I have no idea why people keep electing dolts like this.
 
She is being singled out because she is thorn in the liberal ####.
It's really sad that you believe this. And the truth is almost exactly the opposite. Bachmann is a thorn to conservatives; liberals love her. They hope she's around forever.
What do you think of Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Al Franken, Henry Waxman...? There is no doubt the left has targeted her and hate her with a passion.
1. I actually sort of like Nancy Pelosi. I disagree with many (most?) of her economic views, but I admire that she is very effective, far more so than Harry Reid. And I think she is very brave for standing up for gay rights.2. I despise Maxine Waters. She is a racist, angry woman whom I don't think is very bright. 3. Al Franken is very liberal, so we don't share many beliefs. But he is funny, extremely smart, and entertaining. Prior to becoming senator Franken spent an enormous amount of time and energy with the USO entertaining troops abroad, and has given a great deal of his money to helping veterans. So I also think he's a pretty good guy.4. Henry Waxman is a humorless ideologue. I haven't spent enough time studying him to decide if I like him or not. None of these people are as crazy as Bachmann, though Waters is probably more despicable.
You hate social conservatives....we get that. Pelosi is an idiot beyond compare, but since she is a pro gay rights, you think she is ok.
 
She is being singled out because she is thorn in the liberal ####.
It's really sad that you believe this. And the truth is almost exactly the opposite. Bachmann is a thorn to conservatives; liberals love her. They hope she's around forever.
What do you think of Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Al Franken, Henry Waxman...? There is no doubt the left has targeted her and hate her with a passion.
1. I actually sort of like Nancy Pelosi. I disagree with many (most?) of her economic views, but I admire that she is very effective, far more so than Harry Reid. And I think she is very brave for standing up for gay rights.2. I despise Maxine Waters. She is a racist, angry woman whom I don't think is very bright.

3. Al Franken is very liberal, so we don't share many beliefs. But he is funny, extremely smart, and entertaining. Prior to becoming senator Franken spent an enormous amount of time and energy with the USO entertaining troops abroad, and has given a great deal of his money to helping veterans. So I also think he's a pretty good guy.

4. Henry Waxman is a humorless ideologue. I haven't spent enough time studying him to decide if I like him or not.

None of these people are as crazy as Bachmann, though Waters is probably more despicable.
You hate social conservatives....we get that. Pelosi is an idiot beyond compare, but since she is a pro gay rights, you think she is ok.
That is the point. There are many many radical Democrats, even those in leadership, who are radical. Yet those who demonize Palin, Bachmann... do not see it. Those in glass houses should not throw stones.I forgot Grayson , Wiener, Stark and my Congressman Thompson are more radical and misspoken than Bachmann.

I bet if you think this is just the tip of the iceburg.

 
Bachmann has pretty much become the picture in the dictionary next to the word "loon." I'm embarrassed to have her representing a portion of my State, although this is also the State that elected Jesse the Body and "Stuart Smalley," so I suppose I've just got to learn to live with it.

One of my wife's very good friends (and former roommates) is the Democratic Party leader for that particular district. He's thought of running against Bachmann himself, but hasn't felt ready to take that giant political step. I wish he would, as he would be fantastic as a Representative. In all reality though, I think a box of rocks would be a better representative than Bachmann for that district.

Edited to add: Typo fixed. I'm good enough, and I'm smart enough... :ph34r:

 
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We should ‘make a covenant, to slit our wrists, be blood brothers’ against health care reform
Forcing citizens to do the will of the goverment is always a good thing. Calling it ''taking personal responsibility'' is just laughable coming from the same people who add more than a trillion dollars to the nations debt every year.
 
I'm in Bachmann's District, which is pretty embarrassing for me. This district is also home to many of 3M's employees and former employees. That's right, the same people that brought you Scotch Tape, Bondo, Filtrete, the Post-It Note and other cool inventions can't wrap their awesome invention-y minds around the voting process. Lots of churches in this district too...coincidence?

 
I'm in Bachmann's District, which is pretty embarrassing for me. This district is also home to many of 3M's employees and former employees. That's right, the same people that brought you Scotch Tape, Bondo, Filtrete, the Post-It Note and other cool inventions can't wrap their awesome invention-y minds around the voting process. Lots of churches in this district too...coincidence?
MN-6 is a pretty weird district. It does include places like Woodbury (3M-ville) and Stillwater (HI MELLY!), but there is a huge swath that includes such notable places as Ham Lake, Buffalo, Sauk Rapids, and Cold Spring.I'm sure the population density keeps things somewhat balanced so that nowheresville doesn't dominate, but it's certainly no Minneapolis.

I think Bachmann should be a bit worried that she's only polling about 8 or 9 ahead of Clark, who incidentally is cuter than Michele.

 
Still up by nine.

In each of the last three election cycles, Democrats have made the Minnesota 6th Congressional District a targeted race — especially so after Rep. Michele Bachmann became a nationally-known conservative activist. Elwyn Tinklenberg made it close in the big Democratic wave of 2008, coming within four points of Bachmann in the R+7 district. This year, though, a new Survey USA poll shows that Democrats have failed to mount a serious challenge:

In an election for United States Representative from Minnesota’s 6th Congressional District today, 09/16/10, incumbent Republican Michele Bachman is elected to a 3rd term, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for KSTP-TV in Minneapolis-St. Paul.

Today, it’s Bachman 49%, DFL State Senator Tarryl Clark 40%. Compared to an identical SurveyUSA poll released 2 months ago, little has changed: each candidate is up 1 point. Under the surface, there is offsetting movement: Clark has reduced slightly Bachman’s advantage among men and among Independents, and has gained ground among voters over age 50; Bachman, meantime, is now even with Clark among women and has increased her advantage among middle-aged voters.

In part, this is due once again to the lack of a compelling challenger. In 2008, Tinklenberg represented the old-guard DFL, and his rush to blame the St. Anthony Bridge collapse on tax cuts (it was a design flaw and renovations that caused it) added nothing to his credibility. This year, the DFL got behind a state legislator who demanded tax hikes to close a state budget gap in a cycle where tax hikes are unpopular almost everywhere.

Bachmann still has a handy lead among independents in this survey, leading 49/35. She wins handily in the income demos, leading by nine among those who make less than $50K and seven by those who make more. Bachmann is weaker among older voters than younger voters, a bit of a surprise considering the strong presence of St. Cloud State University in her district. Splitting the women’s vote at 45 and leading among men by 52/36 are probably the key takeaways. Bachmann hasn’t crested the 50% mark, but that’s due to the third-party Independence bid of Bob Anderson, who gets a minimal six percent of the overall vote, and who appears to be pulling his votes from Clark. He only gets 3% of the self-identified conservatives, for instance, but 10% of the moderates, which break for Clark.

Democrats want to take Bachmann out of the national mix and curtail her activism by nationalizing her elections. Instead, she’s cruising to a convincing victory while helping other Republicans win in tough districts.
Bachmann might be weird, but Clark is creeeepy. :thumbup:
 
All these O'Donnell, Palin and Bachmann threads are giving me a hardon. I would go take care of it, but O'Donnell frowns upon that.

 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek:

I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.

 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
Makes sense, she can be completely bought and paid for. They now own her. She will say/do anything that puts a smile on the face of the people who paid her for her services.There's a name for that.
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
My wife's former roommate is (or at least was) the DFL Party Chair in District 6. It's madness. I can't believe the Democrats can't run a pet rock or an empty wine bottle against Bachmann and win. She's seriously "challenged" at best, disturbed at worst. Yet she manages to get sent back to Washington. She is an embarrassment to our State, yet she continues to have a vote in the House of Representatives. Seriously, I think I'd rather even have Jim11 cast that vote than Bachmann... :unsure:
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek:

I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
Makes sense, she can be completely bought and paid for. They now own her. She will say/do anything that puts a smile on the face of the people who paid her for her services.

There's a name for that.

Congresswoman/Congressman?
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
My wife's former roommate is (or at least was) the DFL Party Chair in District 6. It's madness. I can't believe the Democrats can't run a pet rock or an empty wine bottle against Bachmann and win. She's seriously "challenged" at best, disturbed at worst. Yet she manages to get sent back to Washington. She is an embarrassment to our State, yet she continues to have a vote in the House of Representatives. Seriously, I think I'd rather even have Jim11 cast that vote than Bachmann... :unsure:
I once stereotyped Minnesota'ns as being above average intelligence.
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek:

I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
Makes sense, she can be completely bought and paid for. They now own her. She will say/do anything that puts a smile on the face of the people who paid her for her services.

There's a name for that.

Congresswoman/Congressman?
Good answer!
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
Makes sense, she can be completely bought and paid for. They now own her. She will say/do anything that puts a smile on the face of the people who paid her for her services.There's a name for that.
obama and his union bosses...
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
Makes sense, she can be completely bought and paid for. They now own her. She will say/do anything that puts a smile on the face of the people who paid her for her services.There's a name for that.
obama and his union bosses...
That's laughable. From the union's perspective, Obama has completely screwed them over.
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
That has to be because the Dems spent so much money backing Tarryl Clark.Clark was extraordinarily unlikeable. BTW - Bachmann won 53/40.
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
Makes sense, she can be completely bought and paid for. They now own her. She will say/do anything that puts a smile on the face of the people who paid her for her services.There's a name for that.
obama and his union bosses...
That's laughable. From the union's perspective, Obama has completely screwed them over.
Come on, obama is a whore for the unions, he came out and backed them until he was told it might not be the correct thing for a "president" to do...He just backed away because it showed him for what he is, the political activist in chief...He is as pathetic a leader as those liars and cowards that ran away in Wisconsin...Bachman could not do a worse job than he is doing...
 
This senator might be a nut, but her message is what we should be listening to. Attacking her serves no purpose, other than to make you feel better about yourself. As usual, the typical American liberals attack the person or party instead of the issue at hand.....taxes.

Taxation is something that scared our founding fathers enough to start a revolution and a new country. They knew it's devastating powers and that taxation is nothing more than "Theft by the Left" leading to socialism. Forcing anyone to pay for anything without choice is theft, no matter how great the benefit. The more taxes that come out of your wallet, the more they control where that money and the economy goes. They already own half of us, once they have 100%...we'll have a full blown socialist nation, where the true liberal spirit of America will be dead. We need to shrink govt and stop this cancer or we'll be looking for a new country soon. Trust me, the rich will leave this country before things get any worse and they'll still find a way to skirt taxes. It will be the middle class that will pay with their freedom. I'm liberal on most issues, but only when it gives EVERYONE a choice. Once that choice is gone and you force me to pay taxes, no matter how much I believe in the cause, I will fight you tooth and nail. It's like forcing me to donate to one charity for cancer that takes 33% of my donation for admin fees, when I could give that money to help support my sister's family while she fights the disease. Control of your own destiny without interference is freedom.

My biggest fault with the American form of Liberalism is that everything is based on the extremely flawed argument that our government can manage and redsitrbute wealth to those less fortunate with more efficiency and effectiveness than me. Anyone who has truely looked at the history of this and other forms of government, without bias or conflict, will understands that for thousands of years most all of our elected officials have proven they can't be trusted. Liberals think they are helping, but in reality they are just refocuing the issue, while leading dooming us....exactly what the rich want.

 
This senator might be a nut, but her message is what we should be listening to. Attacking her serves no purpose, other than to make you feel better about yourself. As usual, the typical American liberals attack the person or party instead of the issue at hand.....taxes. Taxation is something that scared our founding fathers enough to start a revolution and a new country. They knew it's devastating powers and that taxation is nothing more than "Theft by the Left" leading to socialism. Forcing anyone to pay for anything without choice is theft, no matter how great the benefit. The more taxes that come out of your wallet, the more they control where that money and the economy goes. They already own half of us, once they have 100%...we'll have a full blown socialist nation, where the true liberal spirit of America will be dead. We need to shrink govt and stop this cancer or we'll be looking for a new country soon. Trust me, the rich will leave this country before things get any worse and they'll still find a way to skirt taxes. It will be the middle class that will pay with their freedom. I'm liberal on most issues, but only when it gives EVERYONE a choice. Once that choice is gone and you force me to pay taxes, no matter how much I believe in the cause, I will fight you tooth and nail. It's like forcing me to donate to one charity for cancer that takes 33% of my donation for admin fees, when I could give that money to help support my sister's family while she fights the disease. Control of your own destiny without interference is freedom.My biggest fault with the American form of Liberalism is that everything is based on the extremely flawed argument that our government can manage and redsitrbute wealth to those less fortunate with more efficiency and effectiveness than me. Anyone who has truely looked at the history of this and other forms of government, without bias or conflict, will understands that for thousands of years most all of our elected officials have proven they can't be trusted. Liberals think they are helping, but in reality they are just refocuing the issue, while leading dooming us....exactly what the rich want.
:confused: I don't know where to start. Frankly, I don't have the time. :popcorn:
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
Makes sense, she can be completely bought and paid for. They now own her. She will say/do anything that puts a smile on the face of the people who paid her for her services.There's a name for that.
obama and his union bosses...
That's laughable. From the union's perspective, Obama has completely screwed them over.
Come on, obama is a whore for the unions, he came out and backed them until he was told it might not be the correct thing for a "president" to do...He just backed away because it showed him for what he is, the political activist in chief...He is as pathetic a leader as those liars and cowards that ran away in Wisconsin...Bachman could not do a worse job than he is doing...
What's laughable is to suggest that Obama is doing the union bosses' bidding. As far as the unions were concerned, he had one task, and one task only, that he needed to accomplish, and that was to push through the Employee Free Choice Act. This law would have been arguably the most union-friendly piece of legislation since the Wganer Act was passed 75 years ago. The drastic changes to organizing and collective bargaining rules would have created a fundamental shift in decades of labor law in this country, all to the benefit of unions. Obama had both chambers of Congress and the presidential pen. He had a window to push through the legislation, and instead he moved it to the back of his priority list. Now that window has closed and it won't reopen again for many years, if ever.
 
Bachmann Mangles History

New Hampshire is a popular place this week with Minnesota politicians who might have their eye on the White House.

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty left the state after a two-day visit ending Friday, just as U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann was arriving for her weekend visit.

Bachmann, popular with conservatives and tea party activists, attended a private fundraiser Friday night and was meeting with members of the Republican Liberty Caucus of New Hampshire on Saturday before headlining a state GOP fundraiser in Nashua later in the day.

Speaking at an event held by the Republican Liberty Caucus on Saturday, Bachmann invoked the founding fathers and offered a historical account in lauding the early presidential primary state.

"What I love about New Hampshire and what we have in common is our extreme love for liberty," she said, according to Politico. "You're the state where the shot was heard around the world in Lexington and Concord. And you put a marker in the ground and paid with the blood of your ancestors the very first price that had to be paid to make this the most magnificent nation that has ever arisen in the annals of man in 5,000 years of recorded history."

Scott Conroy at Real Clear Politics notes, however, an accuracy glitch in what the Tea Party darling had to say:

In fact, the 1775 Battles of Lexington and Concord that marked the first military engagements of the American Revolution took place in Massachusetts. But Bachmann did not correct her error when she referenced the battles again later in her speech.

Some 30 miles to the north and with tea bag in hand, Bachmann was greeted with applause when she asked the crowd, "How about a United States president that gets what the American people want in 2012?" and later proclaimed, "Are you in for 2012? I'm in!"

She later clarified that she is committed to denying President Barack Obama a second term, not necessarily running herself.

It remains to be seen whether Bachmann will ultimately launch a 2012 presidential campaign. One of Bachmann's closest advisers, however, told ABC News on Friday, "I'd be surprised if she didn't run."

Bachmann chief-of-staff Andy Parrish told CNN on Friday that the conservative congresswoman is giving serious thought and consideration to mounting a campaign for the White House. "If the congresswoman decides to do run, she is going to do it her way, and her way has never been the establishment way," he told the network.

Bachmann recently has visited two other early nominating states. She's expected to announce whether she's running by early summer.
 
Minnesota district 6 had more campaign dollars spent on it than any other district in the nation. :eek: I mean I know we are pretty cool and all but was electing Michelle Bachmann really more important than races in California or New York? The $$$ seems to think so.
That has to be because the Dems spent so much money backing Tarryl Clark.Clark was extraordinarily unlikeable. BTW - Bachmann won 53/40.
Oh I agree Clark was unlikable and did not seem like a better alternative. The alternative was Bob Anderson.However Bachmann received about 3 times the amount of contributions compared to Clark:
Michele Bachmann ® * Raised: $13,517,222Spent: $11,647,656Cash on Hand: $1,870,869Last Report: December 31, 2010 PAC contributions $464,613 (3%) Individual contributions $12,923,296 (96%) Candidate self-financing $0 (0%) Other $129,313 (1%)Tarryl Clark (D)Raised: $4,718,912Spent: $4,689,117Cash on Hand: $29,795Last Report: December 31, 2010 PAC contributions $355,328 (8%) Individual contributions $4,276,035 (91%) Candidate self-financing $0 (0%) Other $87,549 (2%)
http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=MN06&cycle=2010This is more than was spent on any election across the nation so my question remains. Why?
 

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