Middle-aged White Mortality has Skyrocketed (1 Viewer)

[Ditka Butkus]

I know it's been nothing but roses for me my entire life.  I mean I'm tired of how ####### easy life is

I just got done with the front nine and thought I would check in on you guys while I finish my Bloody Mary...

 

[CletiusMaximus]

A pretty good longread from Bloomberg Business last week: Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs. The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.

 

[need2know]

A pretty good longread from Bloomberg Business last week: Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs. The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.

Wow

 

[FairWarning]

A pretty good longread from Bloomberg Business last week: Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs. The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.

And where did those part supplier jobs come from?  The Midwest.  Pretty much devastated my area.  Can't believe those 40-yo Germans who owned tool and die shops just don't pack up and work for The Man down south.  

 

[CletiusMaximus]

And where did those part supplier jobs come from?  The Midwest.  Pretty much devastated my area.  Can't believe those 40-yo Germans who owned tool and die shops just don't pack up and work for The Man down south.  

It seems to me manufacturing is still pretty strong in Wisconsin overall, but its feast or famine for the job shops. Lots of these industries like to stay flexible so they can ramp up and down quickly at the slightest sign of a market change.

 

[FairWarning]

It seems to me manufacturing is still pretty strong in Wisconsin overall, but its feast or famine for the job shops. Lots of these industries like to stay flexible so they can ramp up and down quickly at the slightest sign of a market change.

The biggest problem I see is some of that field coming back, but many schools cut out trade shop classes because of cutbacks.  Not everyone is going to college to be an accountant.

 

[cockroach]

To use your o-ring on a toilet example, plumbing is still a pretty solid career. We are doing a remodel right now and the plumber that we are sub-contracting does very well for himself and seems to have more work than he can handle. Yes, that is anecdotal, but the shortage of people with the requisite skills and willingness to work in the trades is well-established.

Just had a huge 5k+ plumbing job done.  About 10 "illegals" taking turns napping in the truck and the white foreman who only came around to pick up checks and throw his workers under the bus when asked why the work wasn't done satisfactorily.  Guy was also tough to get ahold of until he saw that one star yelp rating. 

 

[DocHolliday]

Just had a huge 5k+ plumbing job done.  About 10 "illegals" taking turns napping in the truck and the white foreman who only came around to pick up checks and throw his workers under the bus when asked why the work wasn't done satisfactorily.  Guy was also tough to get ahold of until he saw that one star yelp rating. 

There has been discussions on this before but there is a ton of money out there in construction. If you are willing to do physical work and even get dirty, you don't need to go to college to earn a great living.  

 

[FairWarning]

There has been discussions on this before but there is a ton of money out there in construction. If you are willing to do physical work and even get dirty, you don't need to go to college to earn a great living.  

No but if schools are not offering woodshop chasses, its pretty tough for someone right out of HS.

 

[DocHolliday]

No but if schools are not offering woodshop chasses, its pretty tough for someone right out of HS.

Wood shop is nice but that is just the tip of the iceberg. You do what I did. It's the same way most of my contractor friends got started. You go to work for a contractor and learn on the job.  

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

The Democrats, who should have helped preserve them didn't.  They turned their backs on them by the 1980s, probably because they accepted the death of unions, and Clinton performed the coup de grace on them with NAFTA.

As you pointed out, the Dems lost every Presidential election between 1968 and 1989, with the exception of 1976 -- after Nixon was disgraced in Watergate.

i.e. Dems didn't leave working people -- working people left the Dems.  

Partly because black people (Southern Strategy, Lee Atwater, Welfare Queens, Willie Horton, etc), and partly because the post-war economy and economic institutions had been so successful raising people into the middle- and upper-middle class that those people thought they didn't need the help any more.

And eventually you have to go where the votes are.