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The defense just doesn't seem the same when Brown isn't in there. I know we had to figure Brown would go down at some point, but it still sucks.
I remember him being down after that play but wasn't sure if that was the same play he injured his knee on. Another great game for the officials and I'm sure Neal won't receive any punishment for it. Not surprising.I can't believe that Brown got hurt on that cheapshot closeline that the officials somehow missed. WTF are these guys getting paid for if you don't notice a guy getting tackled around the neck by a lead fullback DIRECTLY in front of the back with the ball.You have to feel bad for a guy that just can't stay healthy with his assortment of freak injuries, particularly the way this one happened. Brown is a playmaker that makes the Bears defense scary. Without him their secondary becomes very mediocre
I couldn't disagree more here.Don't get me wrong Brown is good and the defense is better with him, but he will now have had season ending injuries 3 of the last 4 years. The Bears defense knows how to play without him. He's a playmaker and those are difficult to replace, but the Bears have done a great job preparing for this. They have drafted some young guys that can step in and signed Arch. But calling Brown the true-leader of the defense is completely wrong. How can you be a leader when you are standing on the sidelines every week? The true leaders are Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman & Harris. Those guys go out each week and make plays.The Bears defense is still a dominant group. They do lose something with Brown out of the lineup, but I think that you are overreacting a little bit here.
Did you watch the Super Bowl?I like D. Mannings potential, but the guy is good for 3-4 "major" screw ups a game with blown coverage etc. Mike Brown means a lot more to the Bears D than he is given credit for. And his teammates know it, as they voted him as a defensive co-captain with Urlacher DESPITE his injury history. This is indeed a big blow. If Brown were playing in the Super Bowl I guarantee you would have seen the Bears defensive backs play a lot more aggressively knowing that Brown has behind them
I did watch the Super Bowl but I don't think you understood what I was saying.Mike Brown is a good football player. Mike Brown is injury prone. When Brown plays the Bears defense is better. However Brown doesn't play much. Something like 20 games in the last 4 years. How can you count on a guy that barely plays and call him your defensive leader?
Mike Brown and Tommie Harris seem to be the two guys that the Bears could least afford to lose IMO...............Bears are in huge trouble. I don't think people realize how important Mike Brown is on the Bears D. Anyone notice he just "happened" to catch the only interception and just "happened" to recover the only fumble. The dude is always in the right place at the right time. He is a motivator, and a leader in that defense. He tells people where to be and who to cover (check Super Bowl last year when he was not playing and Wayne scored a long TD on blown coverage). Can anyone find the Bears defensive statistics and win/loss record when Mike Brown is playing compared to when he is not playing? I thought I've seen something like this and it is like night and day. IMO, this is the about the worst thing that could have happened to the Bears week 1 (only thing worse would be Urlacher or maybe Briggs going down).Oh, and the Dusty thing sucks too. Who the hell knows how good he is because he's hardly played, but the Bears were excited about him for a reason ... now we may not find out why.
Agree on Harris, but disagree on Brown. The Bears unit was really good without Brown.If the Bears lose Urlacher and/or Harris then the real trouble begins....Mike Brown and Tommie Harris seem to be the two guys that the Bears could least afford to lose IMO...............Bears are in huge trouble. I don't think people realize how important Mike Brown is on the Bears D. Anyone notice he just "happened" to catch the only interception and just "happened" to recover the only fumble. The dude is always in the right place at the right time. He is a motivator, and a leader in that defense. He tells people where to be and who to cover (check Super Bowl last year when he was not playing and Wayne scored a long TD on blown coverage). Can anyone find the Bears defensive statistics and win/loss record when Mike Brown is playing compared to when he is not playing? I thought I've seen something like this and it is like night and day. IMO, this is the about the worst thing that could have happened to the Bears week 1 (only thing worse would be Urlacher or maybe Briggs going down).Oh, and the Dusty thing sucks too. Who the hell knows how good he is because he's hardly played, but the Bears were excited about him for a reason ... now we may not find out why.
My bad --- Tommie should be right in there as well.Mike Brown and Tommie Harris seem to be the two guys that the Bears could least afford to lose IMO...............Bears are in huge trouble. I don't think people realize how important Mike Brown is on the Bears D. Anyone notice he just "happened" to catch the only interception and just "happened" to recover the only fumble. The dude is always in the right place at the right time. He is a motivator, and a leader in that defense. He tells people where to be and who to cover (check Super Bowl last year when he was not playing and Wayne scored a long TD on blown coverage). Can anyone find the Bears defensive statistics and win/loss record when Mike Brown is playing compared to when he is not playing? I thought I've seen something like this and it is like night and day. IMO, this is the about the worst thing that could have happened to the Bears week 1 (only thing worse would be Urlacher or maybe Briggs going down).Oh, and the Dusty thing sucks too. Who the hell knows how good he is because he's hardly played, but the Bears were excited about him for a reason ... now we may not find out why.
That's just the thing. This guy, along with Urlacher, is THE leader of the defense DESPITE missing so many games. That's how much of an impact he has on the team when he's on the field.
No doubt, but when he is one the field, he is the leader of that defense. I think it's quite obvious, the way he talks to his teammates, to the opposing team, etc. But with that being said, the Bears have the defensive talent to win the NFC without him. With Brown, they could shut down Indy/NE/SD and possibly pull out a victory in the SuperBowl, without him, not so much. I believe that Brown could have had a HOF caliber career without the injuries, sometimes life isn't fair.
I just have a hard time annointing Brown as "THE leader of the defense" when he doesn't play. It doesn't make sense to me.
I completely agree with this. Both Harris and Brown are the two guys that make the rest of the defense look tremendous. The fact is, when Harris is in the game those linebackers are able to use their speed to make plays. Without him, they are not the same. Couple that with his own ability to make plays, and I think it is clear why the Bears were not the same defense at the end of the season without him as they were at the beginning with him.Brown has a similar impact on the defensive backfield. On running plays the guy is able to come up and make plays and on passing downs, just having him in there gives the corners the ability to take chances, without worry of giving up the long ball. He makes big plays (evident even against the Chargers) and he makes everyone else better. What more can you ask for in a guy. He is a MASSIVE loss, just as he was each of the previous 3 years.I don't think it is all doom and gloom for the Bears, however. They are still in what would appear to be a weak division and should have a good chance of making the playoffs again. From there, who knows?
