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probably, but he plays a different position.I still think Reece is the better playerThere goes Reece's sleeper potential

probably, but he plays a different position.I still think Reece is the better playerThere goes Reece's sleeper potential
Perhaps because he wasn't a free agent.I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.
Well, that would be a good reason.Perhaps because he wasn't a free agent.I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.
WE've all had our brain burps squshy.Well, that would be a good reason.Perhaps because he wasn't a free agent.I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.![]()
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strangely enough so did IFiddlesticks.I saw the headline and was expecting the Raiders to cough up a first and decond round pick for Goodson.
The only reason they didn't is that they didn't have any to part with this year and I guess Hurney was too stupid to ask for next years picks.strangely enough so did IFiddlesticks.I saw the headline and was expecting the Raiders to cough up a first and decond round pick for Goodson.
I like the trade for the Panthers.The only reason they didn't is that they didn't have any to part with this year and I guess Hurney was too stupid to ask for next years picks.strangely enough so did IFiddlesticks.I saw the headline and was expecting the Raiders to cough up a first and decond round pick for Goodson.
Yes, but why? Don't get me wrong, as a Raiders fan, I hope you're right on. But in the few touches he had last season, it was clear that he's one raw runner. When he takes the handoff, he's usually running out of control and at full speed right away, no patience. No telling if he's any good at pass blocking either since he didn't get too many chances. My other concern is that he's kind of a stringy 6'0, 195. Hopefully he puts on some weight cause there were a few carries last season where he looked like a rag doll. There is no way he steps in and carries the load if/when McFadden goes down, not with that build.I guess I could ask the same question about a RB who has a total of 125 carries at 4.0 and 5 fumbles.Taiwan has a higher ceiling, imo.post of the thread.Besides one preseason game against Saints 2nd & 3rd teamers, how do you know Taiwan is any good?I don't see it. I think he will be behind Taiwan.125 career attempts, 4.0 ypc, and 5 fumbles.Agreed, as of right now, Goodson is the DMC cuff imo.....Goodson is extremely talented and is starter material IMO. I think this is great for him as there is a high likelihood that DMC will miss games and he should have an opportunity to shine in an offense that should fit his style (which is similar to DMC).
As a dynasty owner who was considering cutting him, this is great news.
He can't be trusted as anything more than a special teams player imo,
and a 3rd down back who can catch the ball in the flat.
Just adds much needed depth.On a side note, after watching the Path to the Draft on NFL network I would be extremely happy if the Panthers took the Stanford guard Decastro. Holy crap that dude is an animal and loves to hit people. I know its not an immediate need but anytime you can protect your QB a little better and upgrade the running game is always a nice feature for your team. One guy on the show said he would revolutionize the guard position. I have no idea what he meant by that but it sounded cool.I like the trade for the Panthers.The only reason they didn't is that they didn't have any to part with this year and I guess Hurney was too stupid to ask for next years picks.strangely enough so did IFiddlesticks.I saw the headline and was expecting the Raiders to cough up a first and decond round pick for Goodson.
bc goodson has actually produced for a stretch. id imagine the raiders dont know who will be the main backup, so its about handicapping who will win the job. jones has crazy speed, but ppl, and coaches, like to pigeonhole his type to spot duty.I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.
Which was what Goodson was at Carolina. So that begs the question, if Jones is viewed only as a COP back, then why bring in another COP back as the answer to who replaces Bush? This would suggest to me that Jones is probably penciled in as the #2 unless the Raiders think that Goodson is more than a COP.Yes, but why? Don't get me wrong, as a Raiders fan, I hope you're right on. But in the few touches he had last season, it was clear that he's one raw runner. When he takes the handoff, he's usually running out of control and at full speed right away, no patience. No telling if he's any good at pass blocking either since he didn't get too many chances. My other concern is that he's kind of a stringy 6'0, 195. Hopefully he puts on some weight cause there were a few carries last season where he looked like a rag doll. There is no way he steps in and carries the load if/when McFadden goes down, not with that build.I guess I could ask the same question about a RB who has a total of 125 carries at 4.0 and 5 fumbles.Taiwan has a higher ceiling, imo.post of the thread.Besides one preseason game against Saints 2nd & 3rd teamers, how do you know Taiwan is any good?I don't see it. I think he will be behind Taiwan.125 career attempts, 4.0 ypc, and 5 fumbles.Agreed, as of right now, Goodson is the DMC cuff imo.....Goodson is extremely talented and is starter material IMO. I think this is great for him as there is a high likelihood that DMC will miss games and he should have an opportunity to shine in an offense that should fit his style (which is similar to DMC).
As a dynasty owner who was considering cutting him, this is great news.
He can't be trusted as anything more than a special teams player imo,
and a 3rd down back who can catch the ball in the flat.
I would put my money on Goodson or someone else not on the roster yet. Taiwan seems like more of a COP back to me.
Was Goodson change of pace? Or buried on a talented depth chart?Which was what Goodson was at Carolina. So that begs the question, if Jones is viewed only as a COP back, then why bring in another COP back as the answer to who replaces Bush? This would suggest to me that Jones is probably penciled in as the #2 unless the Raiders think that Goodson is more than a COP.Yes, but why? Don't get me wrong, as a Raiders fan, I hope you're right on. But in the few touches he had last season, it was clear that he's one raw runner. When he takes the handoff, he's usually running out of control and at full speed right away, no patience. No telling if he's any good at pass blocking either since he didn't get too many chances. My other concern is that he's kind of a stringy 6'0, 195. Hopefully he puts on some weight cause there were a few carries last season where he looked like a rag doll. There is no way he steps in and carries the load if/when McFadden goes down, not with that build.I guess I could ask the same question about a RB who has a total of 125 carries at 4.0 and 5 fumbles.Taiwan has a higher ceiling, imo.post of the thread.Besides one preseason game against Saints 2nd & 3rd teamers, how do you know Taiwan is any good?I don't see it. I think he will be behind Taiwan.125 career attempts, 4.0 ypc, and 5 fumbles.Agreed, as of right now, Goodson is the DMC cuff imo.....Goodson is extremely talented and is starter material IMO. I think this is great for him as there is a high likelihood that DMC will miss games and he should have an opportunity to shine in an offense that should fit his style (which is similar to DMC).
As a dynasty owner who was considering cutting him, this is great news.
He can't be trusted as anything more than a special teams player imo,
and a 3rd down back who can catch the ball in the flat.
I would put my money on Goodson or someone else not on the roster yet. Taiwan seems like more of a COP back to me.
Sorry to dissapoint pantherclub, maybe under our old regime you might have received a sweet deal, but the Raiders are under new management.strangely enough so did IFiddlesticks.I saw the headline and was expecting the Raiders to cough up a first and decond round pick for Goodson.
both.Was Goodson change of pace? Or buried on a talented depth chart?Which was what Goodson was at Carolina. So that begs the question, if Jones is viewed only as a COP back, then why bring in another COP back as the answer to who replaces Bush? This would suggest to me that Jones is probably penciled in as the #2 unless the Raiders think that Goodson is more than a COP.Yes, but why? Don't get me wrong, as a Raiders fan, I hope you're right on. But in the few touches he had last season, it was clear that he's one raw runner. When he takes the handoff, he's usually running out of control and at full speed right away, no patience. No telling if he's any good at pass blocking either since he didn't get too many chances. My other concern is that he's kind of a stringy 6'0, 195. Hopefully he puts on some weight cause there were a few carries last season where he looked like a rag doll. There is no way he steps in and carries the load if/when McFadden goes down, not with that build.I guess I could ask the same question about a RB who has a total of 125 carries at 4.0 and 5 fumbles.Taiwan has a higher ceiling, imo.post of the thread.Besides one preseason game against Saints 2nd & 3rd teamers, how do you know Taiwan is any good?I don't see it. I think he will be behind Taiwan.125 career attempts, 4.0 ypc, and 5 fumbles.Agreed, as of right now, Goodson is the DMC cuff imo.....Goodson is extremely talented and is starter material IMO. I think this is great for him as there is a high likelihood that DMC will miss games and he should have an opportunity to shine in an offense that should fit his style (which is similar to DMC).
As a dynasty owner who was considering cutting him, this is great news.
He can't be trusted as anything more than a special teams player imo,
and a 3rd down back who can catch the ball in the flat.
I would put my money on Goodson or someone else not on the roster yet. Taiwan seems like more of a COP back to me.
And it seems that he also had serious fumbling issues - http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/230888/panthers-swap-goodson-to-raiders-for-campbellboth.Was Goodson change of pace? Or buried on a talented depth chart?
A 25-year-old former fourth-round pick out of Texas A&M, Goodson was unable to earn a role in Carolina's backfield rotation due to chronic fumbling. He's put the ball on the ground seven times among 125 career carries.
I know very little about Goodson, can't speak for how good he is.But again, will someone inform my as to why Taiwan's worthy of being the #2 back for Oakland, besides the fact that he's the only backup left from last year?And it appearss that he had serious fumbling issues - http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/230888/panthers-swap-goodson-to-raiders-for-campbellboth.Was Goodson change of pace? Or buried on a talented depth chart?A 25-year-old former fourth-round pick out of Texas A&M, Goodson was unable to earn a role in Carolina's backfield rotation due to chronic fumbling. He's put the ball on the ground seven times among 125 career carries.
Notthing more than the people who claim he is only a COP RB have seen. He did not get enough touches to say anything definitively either way. Maybe he can cut it, maybe he can't. It is a good sign though that the Raiders did not look at or sign a Bush type replacement so it is arguable that they have him penciled in as the #2 RB.I know very little about Goodson, can't speak for how good he is.But again, will someone inform my as to why Taiwan's worthy of being the #2 back for Oakland, besides the fact that he's the only backup left from last year?And it appearss that he had serious fumbling issues - http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/230888/panthers-swap-goodson-to-raiders-for-campbellboth.Was Goodson change of pace? Or buried on a talented depth chart?A 25-year-old former fourth-round pick out of Texas A&M, Goodson was unable to earn a role in Carolina's backfield rotation due to chronic fumbling. He's put the ball on the ground seven times among 125 career carries.
What has he shown you? What info do you guys have that I don't? Is it just because some of you own him in a Dyansty and hope he pans out?
I don't think Taiwan is the next coming of Arian Foster, but I do think he has tremendous upsidefrom what I've seen of him in college. He has all the tools, he needs to develop patience to allowNotthing more than the people who claim he is only a COP RB have seen. He did not get enough touches to say anything definitively either way. Maybe he can cut it, maybe he can't. It is a good sign though that the Raiders did not look at or sign a Bush type replacement so it is arguable that they have him penciled in as the #2 RB.I know very little about Goodson, can't speak for how good he is.But again, will someone inform my as to why Taiwan's worthy of being the #2 back for Oakland, besides the fact that he's the only backup left from last year?And it appearss that he had serious fumbling issues - http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/230888/panthers-swap-goodson-to-raiders-for-campbellboth.Was Goodson change of pace? Or buried on a talented depth chart?A 25-year-old former fourth-round pick out of Texas A&M, Goodson was unable to earn a role in Carolina's backfield rotation due to chronic fumbling. He's put the ball on the ground seven times among 125 career carries.
What has he shown you? What info do you guys have that I don't? Is it just because some of you own him in a Dyansty and hope he pans out?
Last year Goodson was considered a top RB prospect after he had a very good 2010 as a backup. He showed a lot of skill both running and catching. Then last year he got hurt and didn't get much play.I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.
I agree, I'd love to see him bulk up a little.I don't think Taiwan is the next coming of Arian Foster, but I do think he has tremendous upsidefrom what I've seen of him in college. He has all the tools, he needs to develop patience to allowNotthing more than the people who claim he is only a COP RB have seen. He did not get enough touches to say anything definitively either way. Maybe he can cut it, maybe he can't. It is a good sign though that the Raiders did not look at or sign a Bush type replacement so it is arguable that they have him penciled in as the #2 RB.I know very little about Goodson, can't speak for how good he is.But again, will someone inform my as to why Taiwan's worthy of being the #2 back for Oakland, besides the fact that he's the only backup left from last year?And it appearss that he had serious fumbling issues - http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/230888/panthers-swap-goodson-to-raiders-for-campbellboth.Was Goodson change of pace? Or buried on a talented depth chart?A 25-year-old former fourth-round pick out of Texas A&M, Goodson was unable to earn a role in Carolina's backfield rotation due to chronic fumbling. He's put the ball on the ground seven times among 125 career carries.
What has he shown you? What info do you guys have that I don't? Is it just because some of you own him in a Dyansty and hope he pans out?
the play to open up in front of him and bulk up with another 10-15, but I think the kid can be a star if he stays healthy.
Although right now I view him as a solid prospect with upside. His injury last season was not structural in nature.
He's a buy and hold imo.
He wasn't a FA.I'm curious what people see in Taiwan Jones other than a fragile player that can't pass block and flies 5 yards backwards in the air every time he's hit. Forget being a full-time player, I don't think he holds up being a bit player.'squistion said:I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.
I smell Bias.How can he be starter material in your mind yet you were pondering cutting him?Goodson is extremely talented and is starter material IMO. I think this is great for him as there is a high likelihood that DMC will miss games and he should have an opportunity to shine in an offense that should fit his style (which is similar to DMC).
As a dynasty owner who was considering cutting him, this is great news.
Probably cause guys that are RB4's on their team don't see the field much.I smell Bias.How can he be starter material in your mind yet you were pondering cutting him?Goodson is extremely talented and is starter material IMO. I think this is great for him as there is a high likelihood that DMC will miss games and he should have an opportunity to shine in an offense that should fit his style (which is similar to DMC).
As a dynasty owner who was considering cutting him, this is great news.
Probably cause guys that are RB4's on their team don't see the field much.I smell Bias.How can he be starter material in your mind yet you were pondering cutting him?Goodson is extremely talented and is starter material IMO. I think this is great for him as there is a high likelihood that DMC will miss games and he should have an opportunity to shine in an offense that should fit his style (which is similar to DMC).
As a dynasty owner who was considering cutting him, this is great news.
Oh, not much... maybe the fact that over half of his TDs as a senior were over 50 yards in length (note: he had 17 TDs) and he totaled over 700 yards that were tied to TD plays. Who would want that type of game changing ability? He also had 245 touches that year. Some of the comments in here are based on myth, emotion, and perception. He needs core strength improvement... that is what the offseason is for and he didn't have one last year.He wasn't a FA.I'm curious what people see in Taiwan Jones other than a fragile player that can't pass block and flies 5 yards backwards in the air every time he's hit. Forget being a full-time player, I don't think he holds up being a bit player.'squistion said:I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.
Is this a serious comment? I just wonder how anyone thinks it is smart to have 2 very good starting RB's and another capable back in Tolbert on a team that has so many holes? While not on the same level, would it be smart to have Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning on the same team? No, it would make sense to trade one of them as there is no advantage to keep them both but there is an advantage to trade one of them. It is most definitely NOT a good decision to keep both Stewart and Deangelo on the same team, just as it was a bad decision to re-sign DWill to his contract before last year.They have 3 capable backs. Stewart is definitely staying put, which is the right decision for Carolina.Sutton will play Goodson's role. They still have 4 very capable backs on the roster.Wishful thinking. Stewart isn't going anywhere.Panthers are still open to trading Stewart people, let's see what happens in the next 3 weeks.![]()
Of course it's a serious comment. DeAngelo is getting older and is not the bellcow he once was.Having Stewart and DWill together makes perfect sense. Teams are realizing the importance of multiple skilled RBs, and Carolina is no different. It's a smart way to organize a running attack in today's NFL.Is this a serious comment? I just wonder how anyone thinks it is smart to have 2 very good starting RB's and another capable back in Tolbert on a team that has so many holes? While not on the same level, would it be smart to have Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning on the same team? No, it would make sense to trade one of them as there is no advantage to keep them both but there is an advantage to trade one of them. It is most definitely NOT a good decision to keep both Stewart and Deangelo on the same team, just as it was a bad decision to re-sign DWill to his contract before last year.They have 3 capable backs. Stewart is definitely staying put, which is the right decision for Carolina.Sutton will play Goodson's role. They still have 4 very capable backs on the roster.Wishful thinking. Stewart isn't going anywhere.Panthers are still open to trading Stewart people, let's see what happens in the next 3 weeks.![]()
Yeah, I don't know which way to take this one. I would hope Jones still had a shot and I kinda see goodson as being the same role as Bush (in the sense that he is very different than Jones and Jones is more like DMAC).But I know there a re a lot of people that have always thought Goodson was very good in his limited opportunities. I don't know enough about him really.My initial reaction was that it put a damper on taiwan's sleeper appealYes, Goodson is not a replacement for Bush, has never been seen as a 3 down back. Means there is still hope that Jones could be DMC's handcuff.Meaning a good thing for Jones?Not for Taiwan Jones owners.Panthers RB Mike Goodson revealed on his Twitter account Friday that he has been traded to the Oakland Raiders.
Related: PanthersSource: Mike Goodson on Twitter Mar 30 - 3:06 PM
Wrong guy!!![]()
I guess if any Carolina back had to be traded to Oakland this was the one that would least upset an apple cart. DWIL or JSTEW to Oakland would have been an interesting topic to discuss.
Why, O fantasy football gods, can't the Broncos make a long distance call to Carolina? I don't care which one they take..just take one!
Oh, not much... maybe the fact that over half of his TDs as a senior were over 50 yards in length (note: he had 17 TDs) and he totaled over 700 yards that were tied to TD plays. Who would want that type of game changing ability? He also had 245 touches that year. Some of the comments in here are based on myth, emotion, and perception. He needs core strength improvement... that is what the offseason is for and he didn't have one last year.He wasn't a FA.I'm curious what people see in Taiwan Jones other than a fragile player that can't pass block and flies 5 yards backwards in the air every time he's hit. Forget being a full-time player, I don't think he holds up being a bit player.'squistion said:I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.
Oh, not much... maybe the fact that over half of his TDs as a senior were over 50 yards in length (note: he had 17 TDs) and he totaled over 700 yards that were tied to TD plays. Who would want that type of game changing ability? He also had 245 touches that year. Some of the comments in here are based on myth, emotion, and perception. He needs core strength improvement... that is what the offseason is for and he didn't have one last year.He wasn't a FA.I'm curious what people see in Taiwan Jones other than a fragile player that can't pass block and flies 5 yards backwards in the air every time he's hit. Forget being a full-time player, I don't think he holds up being a bit player.'squistion said:I am curious why anybody thinks Goodson is a threat to Taiwan Jones - maybe I am mis-remembering but was anybody talking about Goodson as being one of the top RB free agents in this year's market? Was he talked about in the same breath as Michael Bush (if that is who he would be replacing) by anyone? Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed pretty much off the radar among the hot free agent RB possibilities.![]()