Mike Munchak hired as Titans coach (1 Viewer)

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This is a big yawn of a hire for me. I'm happier with this hire than with a re-tread coach. Munchak is also a hall of famer, so he'll demand respect.

But it's one of those choices that as a Titans fan, I can only hope for the best. Not a real exciting choice, so we'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

[RBM]

Mike McCarthy wasn't an exciting hire for Green Bay, to put it in perspective.

 

[Jason Wood]

This is a big yawn of a hire for me. I'm happier with this hire than with a re-tread coach. Munchak is also a hall of famer, so he'll demand respect.

But it's one of those choices that as a Titans fan, I can only hope for the best. Not a real exciting choice, so we'll have to wait and see what happens.

Isn't that what SF said about Mike Singletary? I honestly have no strong feelings about this move one way or another. It certainly aids continuity, but then if this team really needed/wanted continuity, I suspect Fisher would still be the head coach.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Unless there's a proven track record, we'll just never know until it plays out. Fisher didn't seem like much of a candidate after they went through Buddy Ryan and Jack Pardee.

I like the idea of them pursuing a young QB like Matt Flynn via free agency, but I don't like the makeup of this team. Is there a core of players that exhibit strong and desirable leadership? I don't know. This team had a great core of leaders 10 years ago with players like Bruce Matthews, McNair, Mason, George, Rolle, Bulluck, Wycheck, etc. Who are these guys for the Titans now? I don't see them.

Heimerdinger staying seems like a positive, but as Machiavellian as this sounds, the guy has cancer - who is going to hire him right now?

Jim Wasburn is in Philly - huge loss and a big reason they could get away with bargain linemen in the draft and free agency. He was a great teacher and disciplinarian of a line coach.

I think Munchak is one of those "Let's see where this leads for a year since we waited until very late to end the Fisher relationship," deals. Then they can be in a prime situation to get the best of what's available next year if Munchak doesn't demonstrate what they're looking for.

It seems like a smart move on their part to promote a guy within the organization so there is no adjustment time with learning about the organization and the employees in it. He can hit the ground running.

 

[munchkin]

Unless there's a proven track record, we'll just never know until it plays out. Fisher didn't seem like much of a candidate after they went through Buddy Ryan and Jack Pardee. I like the idea of them pursuing a young QB like Matt Flynn via free agency, but I don't like the makeup of this team. Is there a core of players that exhibit strong and desirable leadership? I don't know. This team had a great core of leaders 10 years ago with players like Bruce Matthews, McNair, Mason, George, Rolle, Bulluck, Wycheck, etc. Who are these guys for the Titans now? I don't see them. Heimerdinger staying seems like a positive, but as Machiavellian as this sounds, the guy has cancer - who is going to hire him right now? Jim Wasburn is in Philly - huge loss and a big reason they could get away with bargain linemen in the draft and free agency. He was a great teacher and disciplinarian of a line coach. I think Munchak is one of those "Let's see where this leads for a year since we waited until very late to end the Fisher relationship," deals. Then they can be in a prime situation to get the best of what's available next year if Munchak doesn't demonstrate what they're looking for. It seems like a smart move on their part to promote a guy within the organization so there is no adjustment time with learning about the organization and the employees in it. He can hit the ground running.

Matt. what do you think the odds are that CJ survives this transition period , not necessarily between Fischer and Munchack, but from Young to whomever fills that QB void? Is there a reasonable danger that the team relies too heavily on their running game and beats the snot out of CJ's explosiveness? What results would you hope for in the 2011 draft for the Titans?Flynn looked poised against the Patriots making sound decisions and not putting the ball out there in harms way; what specifically about his game did you like?

 

[No Way Jose]

The thing about CJ is that you want him to get as many carries as possible. Basically 1 out of 10 touches he gets are gonna break for a big one, but if he only gets 15 touches you lessen the chances of it happening. CJ might not pick up 20 yards on 9 carries, but that 10th one will go for 65 and a TD. CJ is great for check downs as well, which where he can get a ton of yards in space. Having a new qb, CJ will be a great asset.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Meh. It wasn't a bad idea to fire Fisher but imo they screwed the pooch a bit by letting him go after the other teams filled the position.

 

[No Way Jose]

Meh. It wasn't a bad idea to fire Fisher but imo they screwed the pooch a bit by letting him go after the other teams filled the position.

I put the timing of the firing on Jeff, not so much with Titans. I think the Titans should have made the move the first time when they decided to keep Jeff, but they decided to keep him. Then Jeff decided he would rather be fired.

 

[Matt Waldman]

I think there's a chance that Johnson gets creamed in 2011-2012 and wants out sooner than later if Tennessee can't get a strong QB or QB of the future in there. Steven Jackson is a good example of a back that has languished after what seemed like a promising opportunity for him to fill in for Marshall Faulk with a Marc Bulger, Holt and Bruce that still seemed to have a few more years than they actually did. Part of the problem was that offensive line falling apart, but you have to hope that Munchak can hire a good replacement for o-line coach and continue churning out decent linemen. It seems a lot of teams hire OCs or DCs based on their skills in that position but their teams don't reflect that skill because they don't know how to hire those people; they just coach the area well.

So with Tennessee, I think you have young receivers with promise that will need strong leadership to grow. A decent line that could continue to be really good but needs to stay healthy and continue to receive great coaching and development. I'm worried that if Munchak isn't the answer, the lack of continuity could ruin enough players with potential on this team that the entire organization suffers for more than a few years. It sounds like a sky is falling perspective, but I'm just looking at other teams 49ers under their past three regimes, Vikings under Tice, Lions under a variety of buys before Schwartz, Browns before Holmgren taking over (maybe), etc.

CJ purportedly has a freakish body type in terms of his ankles and how strong they are, but really...how much can a guy take if the pass defense has holes in a pass-happy division and the Titans lack a strong passing game? If Heimerdinger gets to have a greater influence offensively and they can get a solid QB then there's a chance CJ will be fine. I think people will be selling Johnson high out of fear he slides. I see the logic in that, but it doesn't mean I have a real answer. I'm really at a loss about this team. I was Fisher fan and he was the last of the personnel that was there that made me a fan of the team. I'm sticking around as a fan, but I haven't read much more about the state of the team since Fisher left.

I like Flynn's moxie. There were times you wondered why LSU just didn't stick with him over Russell. I like his smarts, ability to throw on the move and pocket presence. Much of what you said is what I would mentioned. I do worry that he's a bit of a gunslinger, but I'd rather have that than a play-it-safe guy with limited skills that teams can paint into a corner. I just don't know if Flynn has that long-term answer quotient you want. He looked like a very different QB as a senior at LSU than he did as a soph. Would Brian Hoyer be an upgrade? NE would demand a lot probably.

I don't know enough about Munchak's goals to have a hope for 2011's draft. I'll let someone else answer that question.

My ultimate worry is that whoever is coaching, GMing and running the entire show won't be on the same page. This team needs to develop a philosophy and stick with it long-term like the Steelers, Ravens, Packers and Patriots have. I think the Falcons are figuring that out. I'd like to see the Titans do that, too. The Packers seem to understand what they want to draft. I think the Titans haven't been on the same page here for a while within their organization and that is a huge issue for a smaller market team unable to attract big names through free agency.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I was hoping he would be a guy they would consider replacing Paterno with in a couple of years at Penn State, assuming there weren't a lot of NFL head coaching jobs opportunities for him. Wish him well.

 

[Jason Wood]

I was hoping he would be a guy they would consider replacing Paterno with in a couple of years at Penn State, assuming there weren't a lot of NFL head coaching jobs opportunities for him. Wish him well.

I wouldn't discount that as a possibility. Munchak could be short lived in Tennessee, and/or find an opportunity like Penn State more attractive.

 

[shader]

I like Flynn too. But the problem is that the Titans can't trade right now. So until a CBA occurs, we're stuck with an empty cupboard and a draft. So we'll have to draft a QB, or gamble that the CBA will get resolved in time to make a trade.

 

[munchkin]

Thanks for your input Matt.

 

[Matt Waldman]

I like Flynn too. But the problem is that the Titans can't trade right now. So until a CBA occurs, we're stuck with an empty cupboard and a draft. So we'll have to draft a QB, or gamble that the CBA will get resolved in time to make a trade.

And that's my big concern. The only QB I'd want for Tennessee early in this draft is Gabbert and they won't likely get him.

 

[No Way Jose]

I'm fully preparing myself for Bud to draft Cam Newton. Mark it down.

 

[vandyt]

This Titans' fan's wishlist for this offseason:

1) Bring in Matt Flynn for a hopefully reasonable price. Not interested in getting a Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton. If they do decide to draft their future starter, would like Andy Dalton, with Billy Volek signed as a stopgap. Hopefully the name Donovan McNabb isn't mentioned at Titans' Park.

2) Trade CJ2k away to the highest bidder, rather than making him the highest-paid non-QB in the game. Javon Ringer + $30m guaranteed >> CJ2k after 2 seasons of ridiculously large workloads...hes not going to be the same guy in 2 years when hes well-paid and beaten up.

3) Strengthen the interior OL...need to have Harris/Amano competing for one spot rather than occupying two.

4) Let Bo Scaife go, make Craig Stevens a larger part of the base offense. Hes going to be a solid all-around TE in the Kevin Boss mold. Just need to get Scaife out of his way.

5) Look for an impact defensive tackle. Tony Brown is very good, but always injured. Same for Jason Jones. Haye/Marks non-factors.

6) Let Babin leave...no need to give him $15m with Washburn gone.

7) Give Verner a shot at starting opposite Finnegan. Look to add veteran, high character depth to the secondary to support the young guys (Finnegan, Verner, Mouton, McCourty, Griffin)

8) Mercifully end Justin Gage's Titans career. Britt/Williams/Washington fine as the 1/2/3...maybe sign a veteran with leadership skills to support the group.

9) Let Stephen Tulloch walk; have David Thornton follow him. Look to address this area in the 2nd day of the draft. Curran is probably a long-term backup, but McRath/Witherspoon look like keepers on the outside.

10) Do not turn Marc Mariani into a mediocre WR. Let him continue to be the best returner in the AFC...don't Dante Hall him.

I'm personally excited about the Munchak hiring. I'm a big Jeff Fisher fan...but as I told a friend back when the story was "VY or Fisher"...the answer is "both." Young needs new scenery, and Adams had made it clear Fisher wasn't in the long-term plans anymore. No need to throw away a season letting him run out his contract.

 

[lod01]

Starting out on the right foot. He realizes that Vince Young is worthless. Search on for a real QB.

 

[No Way Jose]

This Titans' fan's wishlist for this offseason:1) Bring in Matt Flynn for a hopefully reasonable price. Not interested in getting a Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton. If they do decide to draft their future starter, would like Andy Dalton, with Billy Volek signed as a stopgap. Hopefully the name Donovan McNabb isn't mentioned at Titans' Park.2) Trade CJ2k away to the highest bidder, rather than making him the highest-paid non-QB in the game. Javon Ringer + $30m guaranteed >> CJ2k after 2 seasons of ridiculously large workloads...hes not going to be the same guy in 2 years when hes well-paid and beaten up.3) Strengthen the interior OL...need to have Harris/Amano competing for one spot rather than occupying two.4) Let Bo Scaife go, make Craig Stevens a larger part of the base offense. Hes going to be a solid all-around TE in the Kevin Boss mold. Just need to get Scaife out of his way.5) Look for an impact defensive tackle. Tony Brown is very good, but always injured. Same for Jason Jones. Haye/Marks non-factors.6) Let Babin leave...no need to give him $15m with Washburn gone.7) Give Verner a shot at starting opposite Finnegan. Look to add veteran, high character depth to the secondary to support the young guys (Finnegan, Verner, Mouton, McCourty, Griffin)8) Mercifully end Justin Gage's Titans career. Britt/Williams/Washington fine as the 1/2/3...maybe sign a veteran with leadership skills to support the group. 9) Let Stephen Tulloch walk; have David Thornton follow him. Look to address this area in the 2nd day of the draft. Curran is probably a long-term backup, but McRath/Witherspoon look like keepers on the outside.10) Do not turn Marc Mariani into a mediocre WR. Let him continue to be the best returner in the AFC...don't Dante Hall him.I'm personally excited about the Munchak hiring. I'm a big Jeff Fisher fan...but as I told a friend back when the story was "VY or Fisher"...the answer is "both." Young needs new scenery, and Adams had made it clear Fisher wasn't in the long-term plans anymore. No need to throw away a season letting him run out his contract.

Stopped reading at "trade cj2k away"

 

[FUBAR]

I'd like this more if Bulluck and KVB were still around. but right now they really need some leadership.

 

[vandyt]

This Titans' fan's wishlist for this offseason:1) Bring in Matt Flynn for a hopefully reasonable price. Not interested in getting a Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton. If they do decide to draft their future starter, would like Andy Dalton, with Billy Volek signed as a stopgap. Hopefully the name Donovan McNabb isn't mentioned at Titans' Park.2) Trade CJ2k away to the highest bidder, rather than making him the highest-paid non-QB in the game. Javon Ringer + $30m guaranteed >> CJ2k after 2 seasons of ridiculously large workloads...hes not going to be the same guy in 2 years when hes well-paid and beaten up.3) Strengthen the interior OL...need to have Harris/Amano competing for one spot rather than occupying two.4) Let Bo Scaife go, make Craig Stevens a larger part of the base offense. Hes going to be a solid all-around TE in the Kevin Boss mold. Just need to get Scaife out of his way.5) Look for an impact defensive tackle. Tony Brown is very good, but always injured. Same for Jason Jones. Haye/Marks non-factors.6) Let Babin leave...no need to give him $15m with Washburn gone.7) Give Verner a shot at starting opposite Finnegan. Look to add veteran, high character depth to the secondary to support the young guys (Finnegan, Verner, Mouton, McCourty, Griffin)8) Mercifully end Justin Gage's Titans career. Britt/Williams/Washington fine as the 1/2/3...maybe sign a veteran with leadership skills to support the group. 9) Let Stephen Tulloch walk; have David Thornton follow him. Look to address this area in the 2nd day of the draft. Curran is probably a long-term backup, but McRath/Witherspoon look like keepers on the outside.10) Do not turn Marc Mariani into a mediocre WR. Let him continue to be the best returner in the AFC...don't Dante Hall him.I'm personally excited about the Munchak hiring. I'm a big Jeff Fisher fan...but as I told a friend back when the story was "VY or Fisher"...the answer is "both." Young needs new scenery, and Adams had made it clear Fisher wasn't in the long-term plans anymore. No need to throw away a season letting him run out his contract.

Stopped reading at "trade cj2k away"

Solid contribution.ETA: I'll even give you some direction since you'll apparently need it...make a case for why CJ2K is worth being one of the top 5 or 6 highest paid players in the game, and why he will be immune to the breakdowns that other RBs who have had his kind of workload early in their careers have had.

 

[FUBAR]

This Titans' fan's wishlist for this offseason:

1) Bring in Matt Flynn for a hopefully reasonable price. Not interested in getting a Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton. If they do decide to draft their future starter, would like Andy Dalton, with Billy Volek signed as a stopgap. Hopefully the name Donovan McNabb isn't mentioned at Titans' Park.

I'm not big on Newton but I like Gabbert. Honestly, I hope they don't draft a QB this year but the need is strong.

2) Trade CJ2k away to the highest bidder, rather than making him the highest-paid non-QB in the game. Javon Ringer + $30m guaranteed >> CJ2k after 2 seasons of ridiculously large workloads...hes not going to be the same guy in 2 years when hes well-paid and beaten up.

Can't disagree with your reasoning but CJ will keep the fans interested through the growing pains and help keep the team somewhat relevant. He's going nowhere, I just hope he doesn't end up like Barry.

3) Strengthen the interior OL...need to have Harris/Amano competing for one spot rather than occupying two.

Yep.

4) Let Bo Scaife go, make Craig Stevens a larger part of the base offense. Hes going to be a solid all-around TE in the Kevin Boss mold. Just need to get Scaife out of his way.

I suspect Scaife is gone, but if he's cheap he can stay

5) Look for an impact defensive tackle. Tony Brown is very good, but always injured. Same for Jason Jones. Haye/Marks non-factors.

I like Jones a lot and think Marks can be solid but not a star.

6) Let Babin leave...no need to give him $15m with Washburn gone.

I don't know about this one, Babin's one of the stars on this team. Maybe he would have to be overpaid though.

7) Give Verner a shot at starting opposite Finnegan. Look to add veteran, high character depth to the secondary to support the young guys (Finnegan, Verner, Mouton, McCourty, Griffin)

I can agree with this, I'm just wary of taking other teams retreads. Not to say they can't work out, they just have to be careful.

8) Mercifully end Justin Gage's Titans career. Britt/Williams/Washington fine as the 1/2/3...maybe sign a veteran with leadership skills to support the group.

sure, but what solid leader WRs are available?

9) Let Stephen Tulloch walk; have David Thornton follow him. Look to address this area in the 2nd day of the draft. Curran is probably a long-term backup, but McRath/Witherspoon look like keepers on the outside.

Not a huge fan of Witherspoon. Take LBs when the value is there.

10) Do not turn Marc Mariani into a mediocre WR. Let him continue to be the best returner in the AFC...don't Dante Hall him.

Agreed and I don't see this being an issue as long as Britt/Washington/Williams are around (assuming Williams develops)

I'm personally excited about the Munchak hiring. I'm a big Jeff Fisher fan...but as I told a friend back when the story was "VY or Fisher"...the answer is "both." Young needs new scenery, and Adams had made it clear Fisher wasn't in the long-term plans anymore. No need to throw away a season letting him run out his contract.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Munchak. I am happy that Adams didn't feel the need to bring in a name, but Williams would have been a decent fit I think. My concern is simply a lack of veteran leadership.

 

[FUBAR]

ETA: I'll even give you some direction since you'll apparently need it...make a case for why CJ2K is worth being one of the top 5 or 6 highest paid players in the game, and why he will be immune to the breakdowns that other RBs who have had his kind of workload early in their careers have had.

I'd like to see a study on this. You might be right but looking at the RB with the best career who's still playing, LT had 99 more carries and 200 more touches his first 3 years in the league. He seems to have done just fine.

 

[Bri]

I don't think Heimerdinger is definitely staying yet.

Still no word on assistant head coach McGinnis either.

Those two interviewed for the HC spot too and are from the previous regime so that could prove interesting.

With two excellent young Ts the Titans are fortunate. Losing either would be huge and now with Munchak as coach, ya gotta figure the line will be solid for years to come.

Munchak seems to have what people are trying to call a throwback attitude. I don't think so. He likes his players tough and expects them to learn and execute. That seems pretty straight forward to me.

I don't get how anyone can be worried about CJ. (QB spot yes, but that's not new) The line that paved the way for him just got their coach promoted. Were you hoping Marshall Faulk would become his coach? I don't get that concern.

I love that he's a former HOF player who has turned non-high draft picks into excellent players. That is definitely some coaching ability. Also, Kevin Mawae (probably a future HOFer) loved playing for him too. As far as linemen, he's got "it" as a coach. How will it be with a team is the enormous question.

I love that his buddy, former Titan Bruce Matthews, is very likely to replace him as OL coach. What staff boasts of two HOF players? It doesn't mean they are necessarily great coaches, but it gives a nice let's see attitude.

He seemed to get hounded today by reporters and wasn't surprised or taken back by anything-looked comfy and not all excited either, more like it's time to get to work.

Washburn was a big loss. I'm not going to pretend that either Matthews or Munchak have DL experience, but it's not like they haven't had tons of direct interaction with them, understand the principles etc.

In the past, one could argue that the only way the Titans survived so many FA losses and bad picks was due to exceptional play in the trenches masking other deficiencies. I think it's important that that attitude is continued since it doesn't seem wise to expect personnel to be handled differently.

If his attitude is obvious in cuts, trades, and moves etc then every LB better be worried about their job. It should be that way too. They were weak and I would kinda like to see that happen. I wonder if Bulluck isn't begging to come back now and bring his awesome attitude. He seemed to be a huge loss in the attitude the D played with.

Their D can be excellent real fast with some attention to the LBers and improved play at one CB spot (still!). Their safeties are excellent and curiously rarely mentioned outside of TEN. It'd sure be nice to see them actually play safety instead of covering/overcoming LB mistakes.

Kind of obsessing about the LBers but they are so easily blocked and if not the young ones run right past the play while the older ones are a step slow. Munchak had to see those LBers getting oWned by opposing linemen. He had to.

Oh well, wish we knew more about the guy as a HC for discussions, but it's nice to have a new face in the coaching spot.

 

[Matt Waldman]

This Titans' fan's wishlist for this offseason:1) Bring in Matt Flynn for a hopefully reasonable price. Not interested in getting a Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton. If they do decide to draft their future starter, would like Andy Dalton, with Billy Volek signed as a stopgap. Hopefully the name Donovan McNabb isn't mentioned at Titans' Park.2) Trade CJ2k away to the highest bidder, rather than making him the highest-paid non-QB in the game. Javon Ringer + $30m guaranteed >> CJ2k after 2 seasons of ridiculously large workloads...hes not going to be the same guy in 2 years when hes well-paid and beaten up.3) Strengthen the interior OL...need to have Harris/Amano competing for one spot rather than occupying two.4) Let Bo Scaife go, make Craig Stevens a larger part of the base offense. Hes going to be a solid all-around TE in the Kevin Boss mold. Just need to get Scaife out of his way.5) Look for an impact defensive tackle. Tony Brown is very good, but always injured. Same for Jason Jones. Haye/Marks non-factors.6) Let Babin leave...no need to give him $15m with Washburn gone.7) Give Verner a shot at starting opposite Finnegan. Look to add veteran, high character depth to the secondary to support the young guys (Finnegan, Verner, Mouton, McCourty, Griffin)8) Mercifully end Justin Gage's Titans career. Britt/Williams/Washington fine as the 1/2/3...maybe sign a veteran with leadership skills to support the group. 9) Let Stephen Tulloch walk; have David Thornton follow him. Look to address this area in the 2nd day of the draft. Curran is probably a long-term backup, but McRath/Witherspoon look like keepers on the outside.10) Do not turn Marc Mariani into a mediocre WR. Let him continue to be the best returner in the AFC...don't Dante Hall him.I'm personally excited about the Munchak hiring. I'm a big Jeff Fisher fan...but as I told a friend back when the story was "VY or Fisher"...the answer is "both." Young needs new scenery, and Adams had made it clear Fisher wasn't in the long-term plans anymore. No need to throw away a season letting him run out his contract.

I could get with most of that...

 

[Donsmith753]

ETA: I'll even give you some direction since you'll apparently need it...make a case for why CJ2K is worth being one of the top 5 or 6 highest paid players in the game, and why he will be immune to the breakdowns that other RBs who have had his kind of workload early in their careers have had.

I'd like to see a study on this. You might be right but looking at the RB with the best career who's still playing, LT had 99 more carries and 200 more touches his first 3 years in the league. He seems to have done just fine.

The problem with this is that it would be very difficult to establish WHY certain backs were succesful. Measuring success isn't enough. CJ's success is dependent on different factors to other backs and may be more succeptible to him being less productive more quickly.Until there is a better way to establish the reason for success (the talents that the player relies on) rather than success itself a study like this would be fatally flawed.

 

[FUBAR]

ETA: I'll even give you some direction since you'll apparently need it...make a case for why CJ2K is worth being one of the top 5 or 6 highest paid players in the game, and why he will be immune to the breakdowns that other RBs who have had his kind of workload early in their careers have had.

I'd like to see a study on this. You might be right but looking at the RB with the best career who's still playing, LT had 99 more carries and 200 more touches his first 3 years in the league. He seems to have done just fine.

The problem with this is that it would be very difficult to establish WHY certain backs were succesful. Measuring success isn't enough. CJ's success is dependent on different factors to other backs and may be more succeptible to him being less productive more quickly.Until there is a better way to establish the reason for success (the talents that the player relies on) rather than success itself a study like this would be fatally flawed.

Sure it is, and if he loses a step or his agility he might be in trouble. But I see no reason to think that will happen in the next 2 years. I don't expect him to last as long as LT has, but a career similar to Barry in length is reasonable and the Titans OLine is better than the Lions was.

 

[Bri]

Most NFL coaches roll with 3 RBs. Fisher was an odd bird using two. Ringer and whomever they land in draft can certainly give CJ some rest during the game. A speed back like him, he might actually benefit from a few less carries each week if they're well timed breaks.

 

[No Way Jose]

This Titans' fan's wishlist for this offseason:1) Bring in Matt Flynn for a hopefully reasonable price. Not interested in getting a Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton. If they do decide to draft their future starter, would like Andy Dalton, with Billy Volek signed as a stopgap. Hopefully the name Donovan McNabb isn't mentioned at Titans' Park.2) Trade CJ2k away to the highest bidder, rather than making him the highest-paid non-QB in the game. Javon Ringer + $30m guaranteed >> CJ2k after 2 seasons of ridiculously large workloads...hes not going to be the same guy in 2 years when hes well-paid and beaten up.3) Strengthen the interior OL...need to have Harris/Amano competing for one spot rather than occupying two.4) Let Bo Scaife go, make Craig Stevens a larger part of the base offense. Hes going to be a solid all-around TE in the Kevin Boss mold. Just need to get Scaife out of his way.5) Look for an impact defensive tackle. Tony Brown is very good, but always injured. Same for Jason Jones. Haye/Marks non-factors.6) Let Babin leave...no need to give him $15m with Washburn gone.7) Give Verner a shot at starting opposite Finnegan. Look to add veteran, high character depth to the secondary to support the young guys (Finnegan, Verner, Mouton, McCourty, Griffin)8) Mercifully end Justin Gage's Titans career. Britt/Williams/Washington fine as the 1/2/3...maybe sign a veteran with leadership skills to support the group. 9) Let Stephen Tulloch walk; have David Thornton follow him. Look to address this area in the 2nd day of the draft. Curran is probably a long-term backup, but McRath/Witherspoon look like keepers on the outside.10) Do not turn Marc Mariani into a mediocre WR. Let him continue to be the best returner in the AFC...don't Dante Hall him.I'm personally excited about the Munchak hiring. I'm a big Jeff Fisher fan...but as I told a friend back when the story was "VY or Fisher"...the answer is "both." Young needs new scenery, and Adams had made it clear Fisher wasn't in the long-term plans anymore. No need to throw away a season letting him run out his contract.

Stopped reading at "trade cj2k away"

Solid contribution.ETA: I'll even give you some direction since you'll apparently need it...make a case for why CJ2K is worth being one of the top 5 or 6 highest paid players in the game, and why he will be immune to the breakdowns that other RBs who have had his kind of workload early in their careers have had.

I'm sorry I just can't get behind trading away your best player in his prime years. It's not my job or any fans job to sign and worry about how much a player cost. It's my job to go to the games and cheer for the team I like and buy multiple hot dogs and beers. Maybe the thought of sending out Flynn and Ringer to lead the Titans gets you excited about going to the games but it doesn't me. I pay to go see one of the most electrifying runners in the game do what he does best and hope we win some games. A lot of what lured me to be a fan of the Titans when they came to town left with Jeff Fisher and some of the veterans. Trading away CJ would only continue to alienate the fans. This isn't fantasy football, you don't just trade your best player away to rebuild your team, you build through the draft and sign your best players to reasonable contracts. The Titans have managed to make CJ play each year he has disagreed with his contract and I expect them to continue that.The guy is still only 25 years old and has showed no signs of slowing down. I have no problem with the Titans looking early in the draft for a rb to help CJ out, but I don't think Ringer is an option. They coulda had Blount there as a third rb but Fisher would rather have have 5 fullbacks. They are not gonna trade CJ but I commend you for looking outside the box. CJ is a player you build your offense around, not trade away for some scraps.

 

[FUBAR]

Seems like a problem when your new OC is already making excuses.

"I have known Mike as a player and a coach for 21 years. He was an outstanding player and is a terrific coach," said Palmer. "Mike and I have had some really good conversations and meetings and I am excited to be joining the staff. Offensively, I am very impressed with the personnel they already have in place, but it doesn't matter what level you are talking about -- high school, college, pro -- you are only going to be as good as your quarterback and that will be something we work on."

 

[higgins]

Seems like a problem when your new OC is already making excuses.

"I have known Mike as a player and a coach for 21 years. He was an outstanding player and is a terrific coach," said Palmer. "Mike and I have had some really good conversations and meetings and I am excited to be joining the staff. Offensively, I am very impressed with the personnel they already have in place, but it doesn't matter what level you are talking about -- high school, college, pro -- you are only going to be as good as your quarterback and that will be something we work on."

This really begs a question:
Even though he's had some success in the past (Jax and NYG's recent SB win), shouldn't it be a little concerning that: (1) he was the head coach for Cleveland, a team with a highly heralded rookie QB that became a bust (Tim Couch), for whom he must have given some input before the selection; and, (2) he was the OC for Houston, a team highly with a highly heralded rookie QB that became a bust (David Carr), for whom he must have given some input before the selection?

Any fans of Palmer out there that can shed some light?

 

[vandyt]

This Titans' fan's wishlist for this offseason:1) Bring in Matt Flynn for a hopefully reasonable price. Not interested in getting a Blaine Gabbert or Cam Newton. If they do decide to draft their future starter, would like Andy Dalton, with Billy Volek signed as a stopgap. Hopefully the name Donovan McNabb isn't mentioned at Titans' Park.2) Trade CJ2k away to the highest bidder, rather than making him the highest-paid non-QB in the game. Javon Ringer + $30m guaranteed >> CJ2k after 2 seasons of ridiculously large workloads...hes not going to be the same guy in 2 years when hes well-paid and beaten up.3) Strengthen the interior OL...need to have Harris/Amano competing for one spot rather than occupying two.4) Let Bo Scaife go, make Craig Stevens a larger part of the base offense. Hes going to be a solid all-around TE in the Kevin Boss mold. Just need to get Scaife out of his way.5) Look for an impact defensive tackle. Tony Brown is very good, but always injured. Same for Jason Jones. Haye/Marks non-factors.6) Let Babin leave...no need to give him $15m with Washburn gone.7) Give Verner a shot at starting opposite Finnegan. Look to add veteran, high character depth to the secondary to support the young guys (Finnegan, Verner, Mouton, McCourty, Griffin)8) Mercifully end Justin Gage's Titans career. Britt/Williams/Washington fine as the 1/2/3...maybe sign a veteran with leadership skills to support the group. 9) Let Stephen Tulloch walk; have David Thornton follow him. Look to address this area in the 2nd day of the draft. Curran is probably a long-term backup, but McRath/Witherspoon look like keepers on the outside.10) Do not turn Marc Mariani into a mediocre WR. Let him continue to be the best returner in the AFC...don't Dante Hall him.I'm personally excited about the Munchak hiring. I'm a big Jeff Fisher fan...but as I told a friend back when the story was "VY or Fisher"...the answer is "both." Young needs new scenery, and Adams had made it clear Fisher wasn't in the long-term plans anymore. No need to throw away a season letting him run out his contract.

Stopped reading at "trade cj2k away"

Really wish the Titans would have thought harder about this, rather than giving CJ a truckload of guaranteed money.

 

[Bri]

Seems like a problem when your new OC is already making excuses.

"I have known Mike as a player and a coach for 21 years. He was an outstanding player and is a terrific coach," said Palmer. "Mike and I have had some really good conversations and meetings and I am excited to be joining the staff. Offensively, I am very impressed with the personnel they already have in place, but it doesn't matter what level you are talking about -- high school, college, pro -- you are only going to be as good as your quarterback and that will be something we work on."

This really begs a question:
Even though he's had some success in the past (Jax and NYG's recent SB win), shouldn't it be a little concerning that: (1) he was the head coach for Cleveland, a team with a highly heralded rookie QB that became a bust (Tim Couch), for whom he must have given some input before the selection; and, (2) he was the OC for Houston, a team highly with a highly heralded rookie QB that became a bust (David Carr), for whom he must have given some input before the selection?

Any fans of Palmer out there that can shed some light?

You forgot some like Moon? Bledsoe and Bledsoe/Romo transition in Big D.The thing that always bothered me about Palmer is his lack of understanding of timing affecting pass protection. Above, you and I listed five or six QBs and many of them set the (then) record for most sacks in a year and got shellacked playing for Palmer. Break "timing" out however you want too many steps, too long routes, terrible protection, bad FBs...IDK just whatever ya want. We've also got like 30-40 linemen involved and it does start to look like Palmer is the common thread here. However, he also has coached expansion or 1-15 teams that truly were bad.

Couch and Carr were both decent rooks and looked like they'd develop nicely before they got shellacked. I don't recall when-2nd? 3rd? year, they flat out played scared and were done in the NFL regardless of when they truly finished playing. I don't blame them, I'd be scared too. All in all, Palmer's done OK. To expect 100% success rate with rookie QBs is quite unfair.

The Titans can pass protect and I can't make sense of why their run blocking is so pathetic with two HOFers teaching them and a history of blocking well. I'm going to blame it on Palmer because I need a scapegoat though.