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Minnesota Vikings Offseason (2007) (1 Viewer)

Beaumont said:
Andy Dufresne said:
To be fair, this free agent crop really, REALLY sucked hard and long.ONWARD TO THE DRAFT! SKOL VIKINGS!
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Possibly. I think I'd have been disappointed more if they'd signed Curtis to #1 money. He's not a #1 receiver. Doesn't sound like they were in the Bennett sweepstakes. Also, no way do they give up a 2nd rounder for Welker. Really, after seeing how it all played out, I'm not sure there were ANY free agents worth the money they're getting.I think I'm more disappointed that it got to this point than I am in how they're trying to remedy it.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
Beaumont said:
Andy Dufresne said:
To be fair, this free agent crop really, REALLY sucked hard and long.ONWARD TO THE DRAFT! SKOL VIKINGS!
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The Fox and the Grapes ...
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Possibly. I think I'd have been disappointed more if they'd signed Curtis to #1 money. He's not a #1 receiver. Doesn't sound like they were in the Bennett sweepstakes. Also, no way do they give up a 2nd rounder for Welker. Really, after seeing how it all played out, I'm not sure there were ANY free agents worth the money they're getting.I think I'm more disappointed that it got to this point than I am in how they're trying to remedy it.
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Any chance they bring Taylor back?
 
Donnybrook said:
Vikes Fan said:
Bobby Wade? Whoopty freaking do!

http://www.startribune.com/510/story/1034607.html
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How much :yes: did Wade get?
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Unless things have changed, he hasn't inked yet. The money to me is irrelevant. What bugs me is the fact that after Curtis, their push is for Wade? He is not WR1 material, or WR2 material for that matter. We need a receiver who can start and make an impact. Wade isn't that guy. So, if Wade signs, our top three guys would be Williamson, McMillan, and Wade. Not exactly stiking fear in D-Coordinators throughout the league. We would be better off signing Ryan Hoag, Aaron Hosak, and Blake Elliott and role the dice with 2 former D-III players and a former Gopher who can't make it out of NFL Europe. (Sorry for naming players that non-Minnesotans won't know...but that's my point.) :shock:
 
Beaumont said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Beaumont said:
Andy Dufresne said:
To be fair, this free agent crop really, REALLY sucked hard and long.ONWARD TO THE DRAFT! SKOL VIKINGS!
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The Fox and the Grapes ...
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Possibly. I think I'd have been disappointed more if they'd signed Curtis to #1 money. He's not a #1 receiver. Doesn't sound like they were in the Bennett sweepstakes. Also, no way do they give up a 2nd rounder for Welker. Really, after seeing how it all played out, I'm not sure there were ANY free agents worth the money they're getting.I think I'm more disappointed that it got to this point than I am in how they're trying to remedy it.
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Any chance they bring Taylor back?
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I would say very little chance. Even though they aren't saying it, I think they were disappointed that Travis Taylor was involved in an incident with police in the early morning hours after the final game. He was arrested and released.Maybe they will bring Marcus Robinson back. :shock:
 
Maybe they'll realize that the WR available are the suck and they'll be better off getting a couple of guys via the draft. There's always the chance to see some June cuts too.

 
Vikes Fan said:
Scooby said:
Still think they should be looking at Stallworth... :2cents:
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Doesn't look likely...– Free agent receiver Donte Stallworth has scheduled visits with New England and Tennessee, according to the NFL Network. The Miami Herald has a report that Stallworth will meet with the Dolphins on Thursday.

http://www.startribune.com/blogs/vikings/
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Given his involvement in the substance abuse program (not to mention the injury history), I really, really doubt it.
 
jestertj said:
Maybe they'll realize that the WR available are the suck and they'll be better off getting a couple of guys via the draft. There's always the chance to see some June cuts too.
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:2cents:Please, please, please, someone move up to the #7 and please, please, please let Robert Meachem or Dwayne Bowe be there for their 1st round pick and Anthony Gonzalez/Sidney Rice for their 2nd.
 
Charlie Walters' "little birdie" finally nailed one today:

) Some people are hallucinating again. There is no chance the Vikings will try to bring back Randy Moss. Coach Brad Childress, remember, had Terrell Owens in Philadelphia, and he doesn't need another toothache.
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Amen.
 
Bull Dozier said:
I'll go on record as to say I think Shiancoe will be a good signing. Sure, we overpaid for his value, but with the recent jumps in the salary cap, good deals are going to be hard to find. I think Wiggins should have been kept around, but I think VS's potential is as high as any FA on the market (which really isn't saying much).
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As far as FA TEs go, I think I would rank them is this order.Daniel GrahamJeremy Stevens (not sure if he is a FA)Eric JohnsonDavid Martin.ShiancoeHis potential might be as high as David Martin. I also was impressed with Doanld Lee. Is he still with the Pack?
 
I'm glad the Vikings didn't go crazy in FA. A lot of teams are overpaying for mediocre FAs. I wouldn't build my WR corps around Stallworth, Bennett, or even Curtis while breaking the bank. Unfortunately the Vikes' needs probably won't be remedied by FA or even the draft this year. I think we're in for another subpar year. I'll cross my fingers and hope for a wild card spot in the playoffs.

 
One guy that could definitely help us is Joe Horn. He is older but a true professional. He may only be a #2 at this point in his career but he will run the right routes and teach the youngsters. Give him a 2 or 3 year contract and help the team.

 
RustyFA said:
One guy that could definitely help us is Joe Horn. He is older but a true professional. He may only be a #2 at this point in his career but he will run the right routes and teach the youngsters. Give him a 2 or 3 year contract and help the team.
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I would love it, provided he didn't cost too much.Actually, scratch that. I would love it, period.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
RustyFA said:
One guy that could definitely help us is Joe Horn. He is older but a true professional. He may only be a #2 at this point in his career but he will run the right routes and teach the youngsters. Give him a 2 or 3 year contract and help the team.
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I would love it, provided he didn't cost too much.Actually, scratch that. I would love it, period.
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I agree :thumbup:
 
Do you think the signing of BWade signals what the Vikes are likely to do with the #7 pick? I was worried they might reach for TGinn with it but to me TWilliamson, TGinn and BWade does not make much sense as your 1,2,3 WR.

 
Did anyone really think the Viking were going to solve their personnel problems with free agency this year?

 
Avery said:
Bull Dozier said:
I'll go on record as to say I think Shiancoe will be a good signing. Sure, we overpaid for his value, but with the recent jumps in the salary cap, good deals are going to be hard to find. I think Wiggins should have been kept around, but I think VS's potential is as high as any FA on the market (which really isn't saying much).
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Honest question.How is it a good signing when you overpay?

Even if he turns out to be a good to great player for the Vikings, if the Vikings overpay (meaning pay more than his current worth or more than was required/necessary) isn't that a bad signing, regardless of his ultimate production?
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Well, when I say they overpaid, I'm talking in terms of his value in a vaccuum. Is VS really worth what we paid him? Heck no. But, when you look at the huge jump in the salary cap this year, and the amount of money most teams have to play with, you HAVE to overpay to get anyone. If VS turns out to be any kind of player, I don't think this will look so bad.
 
Anyone know anything about the Jason Carter kid they have on their roster? I heard he does well in practice and when given the opportunity he doesn't disappoint. I'm just wondering what his chances are at making a difference are or if he'll be atleast a #3 or #4 WR?

 
Warpig said:
Anyone know anything about the Jason Carter kid they have on their roster? I heard he does well in practice and when given the opportunity he doesn't disappoint. I'm just wondering what his chances are at making a difference are or if he'll be atleast a #3 or #4 WR?
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He has some skills and could be their #4 this next year. Outside shot at #3 the year after.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
Warpig said:
Anyone know anything about the Jason Carter kid they have on their roster? I heard he does well in practice and when given the opportunity he doesn't disappoint. I'm just wondering what his chances are at making a difference are or if he'll be atleast a #3 or #4 WR?
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He has some skills and could be their #4 this next year. Outside shot at #3 the year after.
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I don't remember his exact measurements, but as I recall, he is small...much like Wade. He started the last game last year (after MRob was released) but didn't do much.
 
TeamDingo said:
Do you think the signing of BWade signals what the Vikes are likely to do with the #7 pick? I was worried they might reach for TGinn with it but to me TWilliamson, TGinn and BWade does not make much sense as your 1,2,3 WR.
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Agreed. However, does Williamson, McMillan, and BWade make much sense either? That seems the direction they are headed.The reason we got BWade is simple. Curtis, when the Vikings pitched their offer, said no and went to Detroit. Wade's only option if he said no was to go home and sit on his couch. I am sure he said, "I'll just stick around and see if they give me $15 million over five years."
 
Any chance the Vikes bring in Horn for a visit? I'm not sure what he's asking, but he makes sense as a stop gap to me. Obviously his best years are behind him, but having a veteran to throw to can only help Jackson's development I would think, rather than play the WR merry-go-round the Vikes have done the last couple.

 
I think at point Viking fans are going to have to accept that we are going to have no proven performers at the quarterback/receiver positions.

It's going to be a long season.

 
So, Vikings homers, with the free agent WRs dwindling, if they don't sign Curtis how good are the chances Billy McMullen is your Opening Day starter?

Note to Vikes Fan -- you've called him 'McMillan' in this thread in a couple of places. Know your players. :D

 
Vikes Fan said:
Donnybrook said:
Vikes Fan said:
Bobby Wade? Whoopty freaking do!

http://www.startribune.com/510/story/1034607.html
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How much :bag: did Wade get?
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Unless things have changed, he hasn't inked yet. The money to me is irrelevant. What bugs me is the fact that after Curtis, their push is for Wade? He is not WR1 material, or WR2 material for that matter. We need a receiver who can start and make an impact. Wade isn't that guy. So, if Wade signs, our top three guys would be Williamson, McMillan, and Wade. Not exactly stiking fear in D-Coordinators throughout the league. We would be better off signing Ryan Hoag, Aaron Hosak, and Blake Elliott and role the dice with 2 former D-III players and a former Gopher who can't make it out of NFL Europe. (Sorry for naming players that non-Minnesotans won't know...but that's my point.) :yes:
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Signings:Ryan Hoag - According to his facebook (which he saw after he added my then gf a few months ago :P ) he's still keeping in shape to play in hopes he gets signed!! Guys who went to school with him claim he's a tool.

Blake Elliot - Saw him strumbling drunk a few months ago in St. Joe. Don't think that leg has healed and looks like he put on a few. I'd say he's living large on the 400 K or so he got. He's a great guy though, wish he'd have made it.

 
Couch Potato said:
So, Vikings homers, with the free agent WRs dwindling, if they don't sign Curtis how good are the chances Billy McMullen is your Opening Day starter? Note to Vikes Fan -- you've called him 'McMillan' in this thread in a couple of places. Know your players. :(
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Boy are you sensitive. The "i" is next to the "u" so it is obvious that I mistyped. Sorry if it happened in a couple of places. I guess my typing skills are off. I do "Know my players." I am just a fast typer and a poor speller. :thumbup:
 
Woz said:
Vikes Fan said:
Donnybrook said:
Vikes Fan said:
Bobby Wade? Whoopty freaking do!

http://www.startribune.com/510/story/1034607.html
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How much :( did Wade get?
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Unless things have changed, he hasn't inked yet. The money to me is irrelevant. What bugs me is the fact that after Curtis, their push is for Wade? He is not WR1 material, or WR2 material for that matter. We need a receiver who can start and make an impact. Wade isn't that guy. So, if Wade signs, our top three guys would be Williamson, McMillan, and Wade. Not exactly stiking fear in D-Coordinators throughout the league. We would be better off signing Ryan Hoag, Aaron Hosak, and Blake Elliott and role the dice with 2 former D-III players and a former Gopher who can't make it out of NFL Europe. (Sorry for naming players that non-Minnesotans won't know...but that's my point.) :thumbup:
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Signings:Ryan Hoag - According to his facebook (which he saw after he added my then gf a few months ago :bag: ) he's still keeping in shape to play in hopes he gets signed!! Guys who went to school with him claim he's a tool.

Blake Elliot - Saw him strumbling drunk a few months ago in St. Joe. Don't think that leg has healed and looks like he put on a few. I'd say he's living large on the 400 K or so he got. He's a great guy though, wish he'd have made it.
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Doesn't that validate my point? Better off with a guy with a broken leg and a tool than we are right now? (Elliot was so fun to watch in college at St. John's.)
 
Vikes Fan said:
Woz said:
Vikes Fan said:
Donnybrook said:
Vikes Fan said:
Bobby Wade? Whoopty freaking do!

http://www.startribune.com/510/story/1034607.html
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How much :lmao: did Wade get?
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Unless things have changed, he hasn't inked yet. The money to me is irrelevant. What bugs me is the fact that after Curtis, their push is for Wade? He is not WR1 material, or WR2 material for that matter. We need a receiver who can start and make an impact. Wade isn't that guy. So, if Wade signs, our top three guys would be Williamson, McMillan, and Wade. Not exactly stiking fear in D-Coordinators throughout the league. We would be better off signing Ryan Hoag, Aaron Hosak, and Blake Elliott and role the dice with 2 former D-III players and a former Gopher who can't make it out of NFL Europe. (Sorry for naming players that non-Minnesotans won't know...but that's my point.) :fishing:
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Signings:Ryan Hoag - According to his facebook (which he saw after he added my then gf a few months ago :bag: ) he's still keeping in shape to play in hopes he gets signed!! Guys who went to school with him claim he's a tool.

Blake Elliot - Saw him strumbling drunk a few months ago in St. Joe. Don't think that leg has healed and looks like he put on a few. I'd say he's living large on the 400 K or so he got. He's a great guy though, wish he'd have made it.
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Doesn't that validate my point? Better off with a guy with a broken leg and a tool than we are right now? (Elliot was so fun to watch in college at St. John's.)
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Absolutely. Plus Elliot was a nasty IM bball player too. Do you regularly go to Johnnie games? '05 grad here. :lmao:

 
Couch Potato said:
So, Vikings homers, with the free agent WRs dwindling, if they don't sign Curtis how good are the chances Billy McMullen is your Opening Day starter?

Note to Vikes Fan -- you've called him 'McMillan' in this thread in a couple of places. Know your players. :sleep:
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McMullen is going to start on Opening day, my guess is that he'll be the number two guy.This dude is absolutely despised on the Vikes board that I post on occasionally. What I find funniest about the whole thing is that some fans were clamoring for Bennett because he would be 'a solid possession guy,' when McMullen is a whopping inch shorter and they both run about the same speed. All Billy did this season was catch the ball when it was thrown to him, but because he's not a burner, people openly hate him. If you look at the two, and take into account that McMullen tookover as full-time player around week 8 or 9 last year, their numbers are very similar. Bennett averages 14 yards a catch. McMullen averages 13.

Some guys on the Vikes board are actually hoping that the Vikings sign Eric Moulds. Meanwhile McMullen is the ultimate evil. I don't get it.

 
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OK, sorry BigJim and Andy, but I will continue to be the ultimate optimist Viking fan on this board...

What are the free agents looking like NEXT year? Many don't think the Vikings have the talent to win this season, so maybe the Vikings' brass recognize this and are just going to try and field a team with young developmental type guys this season to see what they really have and then go into a stronger FA class next season with that much more to spend!?!?!?

Again, I'm not sure about next season's free agent class, so I could be wrong, but I do know that this year's FA class is not good!

 
BigJim® said:
Woz said:
'05 grad here. :banned:
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'93 here. :lmao:
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'95 grad here. :D And yes I do regularly attend games. This is the first season since graduation that I have not made a single game. I hated that. Next year I will have to go to two. :banned: Don't you think Andy is jealous? He is probably a Tommie. :nerd:
 
Vikes Fan said:
BigJim® said:
Woz said:
'05 grad here. :nerd:
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'93 here. :nerd:
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'95 grad here. ;) And yes I do regularly attend games. This is the first season since graduation that I have not made a single game. I hated that. Next year I will have to go to two. :D Don't you think Andy is jealous? He is probably a Tommie. :nerd:
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Worse. I'm an NDSU Bison. You know, NDSU? Where the men are men and the women are too?It's the Sam's Club of higher education. :pics:
 
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