Missouri football player Michael Sam is gay (1 Viewer)

[Hilts]

Hilts sent me a pm apologizing for his comment. That was a classy move and I accepted it.

It was a bit more than that. My comment wasn't meant as it came across. It's clear we're not going to agree on the rest of the PM though.

 

[McGarnicle]

Hilts sent me a pm apologizing for his comment. That was a classy move and I accepted it.

It was a bit more than that. My comment wasn't meant as it came across. It's clear we're not going to agree on the rest of the PM though.

Let's not revise history there, Stalin.

 

[Hilts]

Hilts sent me a pm apologizing for his comment. That was a classy move and I accepted it.

It was a bit more than that. My comment wasn't meant as it came across. It's clear we're not going to agree on the rest of the PM though.

Let's not revise history there, Stalin.

I stand by my statement, gb. Next time let's avoid the easy ones and mix in some classics like Nero, Hirohito, or maybe an Idi.

 

[McGarnicle]

Hilts sent me a pm apologizing for his comment. That was a classy move and I accepted it.

It was a bit more than that. My comment wasn't meant as it came across. It's clear we're not going to agree on the rest of the PM though.

Let's not revise history there, Stalin.

I stand by my statement, gb. Next time let's avoid the easy ones and mix in some classics like Nero, Hirohito, or maybe an Idi.

Kiss my ###, Moussolini.Man, if I had a nickel for every time I've said that.

 

[timschochet]

Tim is crushed

Yes, Tim is very concerned about who his entertainers are #######.

He cares if it is consensual. He doesn't care if his athletic idols are rapists

Statutory rape gets a pass, too, don't forget. As long as she's in a training bra, she's fair game, according to Tim.

You're a very smart guy and I've come to appreciate a lot of your posts, especially in the political threads. So I know that YOU KNOW you're misrepresenting me here. Can I assume that, like Cliff, you're just doing it to be a ####? Or is there some other reason.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Tim is crushed

Yes, Tim is very concerned about who his entertainers are #######.

He cares if it is consensual. He doesn't care if his athletic idols are rapists

Statutory rape gets a pass, too, don't forget. As long as she's in a training bra, she's fair game, according to Tim.

You're a very smart guy and I've come to appreciate a lot of your posts, especially in the political threads. So I know that YOU KNOW you're misrepresenting me here. Can I assume that, like Cliff, you're just doing it to be a ####? Or is there some other reason.

I'm not being a ####; just stating the facts. You cheer for rapists.

 

[SacramentoBob]

 

[SacramentoBob]

Is nuance French for rapey?

 

[timschochet]

Roman Polanski?

His "crime" was to have sex with a promiscuous 13 year old with the body of a 20 year old. I don't approve of such behavior, but it's hardly worth lifelong comdemnafion.

Geez, sorry I missed all the nuance in your stance.

There's no nuance needed. Nowhere there did I defend statutory rape. Polanski should have gone to jail. But do I consider this sort of crime to be the equivalent of child molestation or rape? No I do not. Do I think he should still be condemned for it, 40 years later, in such a way that he has to be a lifetime fugitive from justice? No I do not. If that makes me sick in your eyes, oh well.

 

[timschochet]

But so long as the 13 year old is physically mature, it's not on the same planet as having sex with a 7 year old.

And while I could have written that better, I stand it by it too. Both are crimes. Both are worthy of condemnation and jail. But the latter is far far worse than the former. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 12 year old cousin. He was lambasted (rightfully so) but managed to come back from it and have a long career afterwards. Had Jerry Lee married his 7 year old cousin, he never would have come back from it- he would have spent his remaining life in prison (rightfully so.)

 

[timschochet]

Tim is crushed

Yes, Tim is very concerned about who his entertainers are #######.

He cares if it is consensual. He doesn't care if his athletic idols are rapists

Statutory rape gets a pass, too, don't forget. As long as she's in a training bra, she's fair game, according to Tim.

You're a very smart guy and I've come to appreciate a lot of your posts, especially in the political threads. So I know that YOU KNOW you're misrepresenting me here. Can I assume that, like Cliff, you're just doing it to be a ####? Or is there some other reason.

I'm not being a ####; just stating the facts. You cheer for rapists.

Just in case anyone reading this doesn't know, you're referring to Kobe Bryant and Ben Roethlisberger, both of whom I root for. I don't believe either one is a rapist, and you know that too. So I'll let others decide what your motivation is for bringing this up in the Michael Sam thread.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Tim cheers for rapists.

Tim cheers for Michael Sam.

Therefore Michael Sam is a rapist.

 

[McGarnicle]

Jeez, there are a bunch of 13-15 chicks in this neighborhood I could be chatting up. Thanks Tim.

 

[TLEF316]

If you drug and have sex with someone you know is 13 (or really if you purposely drug and have sex with anyone for that matter), you should go to jail for the rest of your life. It doesn't matter what cup size she is or whether you think she "asked for it" with promiscuous behavior.

Just absolutely brutal.

 

[McGarnicle]

Jeez Tim. I'm literally shaking my head.

 

[One]

To those who saw him play, did Sam Get a chance in the NFL solely because he was gay? Or would he still have been drafted had he not come out?

 

[McGarnicle]

To those who saw him play, did Sam Get a chance in the NFL solely because he was gay? Or would he still have been drafted had he not come out?

He played football like a gay man, in other words, weak and horribly. He was only drafted because he likes huge ##### in his ###.

 

[Widbil83]

 

[ScottNorwood]

To those who saw him play, did Sam Get a chance in the NFL solely because he was gay? Or would he still have been drafted had he not come out?

He played football like a gay man, in other words, weak and horribly. He was only drafted because he likes huge ##### in his ###.

Mouth is censored?

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Tim, please go back to your thread and keep this crap there. You aren't well.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

How in the hell did he win SEC DPOY? That's some pretty stiff competition.

 

[Sinn Fein]

How in the hell did he win SEC DPOY? That's some pretty stiff competition.

I think he got extra recognition for covering tight ends.

 

[Fennis]

its crazy to me how obsessed with tim you guys are.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

its crazy to me how obsessed with tim you guys are.

No it isn't. He's all over this forum and posts more than anyone. When he writes stupid crap he gets called out on it. It happens a lot. When anyone writes stupid crap here they get called out. With Tim it happens more often.

 

[John Bender]

its crazy to me how obsessed with tim you guys are.

lol - he has the most posts in this thread. good or bad, he's not the type to worry about people responding to or at him about any subject manner. He does a good job handling himself - he dishes a lot out but takes it as well as anyone here.

 

[rct]

its crazy to me how obsessed with tim you guys are.

Only exceeded by their obsession with gay sex, judging by how often it is mentioned in the comments. Homophobes apparently just can't help thinking and talking about it.

 

[timschochet]

its crazy to me how obsessed with tim you guys are.

Only exceeded by their obsession with gay sex, judging by how often it is mentioned in the comments. Homophobes apparently just can't help thinking and talking about it.

Wait- so they're obsessed with me and they're also obsessed with gay sex? Not good.

 

[flapgreen]

Some of you folks seem awfully too happy about the fact that he is not that good at football.

They are probably going to go out and celebrate at Chick-Fil-A.

I sure am. We both hate gays!

 

[flapgreen]

Jeez, there are a bunch of 13-15 chicks in this neighborhood I could be chatting up. Thanks Tim.

As long as they look mature.

 

[rct]

Some of you folks seem awfully too happy about the fact that he is not that good at football.

They are probably going to go out and celebrate at Chick-Fil-A.

I sure am. We both hate gays!

Yes, you both do.

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[Ditkaless Wonders]

I remember things being confusing and frustrating at his age. Of course I also remember things being awesome at that age as well. I am grateful that my young adulthood was not played out on a stage as public as the one Michael Sam chose.

I never detected malice in the man so I wish him well.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Gonna have to celebrate tomorrow. Chic fil a was closed today. :(

 

[One]

To those who saw him play, did Sam Get a chance in the NFL solely because he was gay? Or would he still have been drafted had he not come out?

He played football like a gay man, in other words, weak and horribly. He was only drafted because he likes huge ##### in his ###.

So you're saying I have a chance?

 

[Frostillicus]

I remember things being confusing and frustrating at his age. Of course I also remember things being awesome at that age as well. I am grateful that my young adulthood was not played out on a stage as public as the one Michael Sam chose.

I never detected malice in the man so I wish him well.

What is this garbage? Gonna need you to overreact on one side or the other.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Sam chose to take the responsibility of being the first openly gay nfl player on his back.

He has not only failed himself but he has failed the gay community as his erratic conduct will be felt for some time unfortunately.

There was always a lot of talk that Jackie Robinson wasn't the best black ball player but the one best EQUIPPED to handle breaking that barrier.

Sam clearly was not that.

Failing as a player isn't a sin

All the other stuff that went with it was batty.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Sam chose to take the responsibility of being the first openly gay nfl player on his back.

He has not only failed himself but he has failed the gay community as his erratic conduct will be felt for some time unfortunately.

There was always a lot of talk that Jackie Robinson wasn't the best black ball player but the one best EQUIPPED to handle breaking that barrier.

Sam clearly was not that.

Failing as a player isn't a sin

All the other stuff that went with it was batty.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

Tim has a new favorite athlete...

"Rugby League player comes out as Britain's first gay professional"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/11807089/Rugby-League-player-comes-out-as-Britains-first-gay-professional.html

This one really touches on what Tim was saying earlier about an athlete coming out in a "macho sport" because pro rugby may be even more macho than pro football. There are no diva wide receivers or star QBs that can't be hit. And despite that macho culture this rugby player still proudly proclaims that he takes it in the scrum.*

* Scrum: Area between scrotum and bum. English version of taint.

 

[SacramentoBob]

No surprise he's wearing a pink shirt.

 

[Joe Summer]

The guy obviously has a mental illness.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

He has not only failed himself but he has failed the gay community as his erratic conduct will be felt for some time unfortunately.

Things were going really well for the gay community: sodomy laws struck down, marriage rights in all 50 states, rapidly accelerating social acceptance, etc. But Michael Sam went and spoiled it all.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

To those who saw him play, did Sam Get a chance in the NFL solely because he was gay? Or would he still have been drafted had he not come out?

He played football like a gay man, in other words, weak and horribly. He was only drafted because he likes huge ##### in his ###.

lol

 

[timschochet]

I tried to explain myself several times. I don't want to do it again. thanks.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Roman Polanski?

His "crime" was to have sex with a promiscuous 13 year old with the body of a 20 year old. I don't approve of such behavior, but it's hardly worth lifelong comdemnafion.

Geez, sorry I missed all the nuance in your stance.

There's no nuance needed. Nowhere there did I defend statutory rape. Polanski should have gone to jail. But do I consider this sort of crime to be the equivalent of child molestation or rape? No I do not. Do I think he should still be condemned for it, 40 years later, in such a way that he has to be a lifetime fugitive from justice? No I do not. If that makes me sick in your eyes, oh well.

I must not be reading this right. A 43-year-old man puts moves on a 13-year-old girl, touches her inappropriately, undresses her, photographs her without clothes on, then has intercourse with her, and you don't think that's the equivalent of child molestation? Because she's promiscuous?

Perhaps Tim feels that being a fugitive from justice all these years has taken such a toll that he has paid his debt to society.

Me, I think if he wanted this behind him he could have stood up and been held accountable instead of fleeing to Europe.

I do love Tim's choice of verbs. Polanski was without choice in this matter. He, Polanski, did not choose to be a fugitive from justice, rather he had to be. Really he is the victim, at least in Tim's eyes.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I tried to explain myself several times. I don't want to do it again. thanks.

Maybe you could take on a new challenge, how is Polanski morally different from Cosby, or is he?

 

[Hang 10]

Roman Polanski?

His "crime" was to have sex with a promiscuous 13 year old with the body of a 20 year old. I don't approve of such behavior, but it's hardly worth lifelong comdemnafion.

Geez, sorry I missed all the nuance in your stance.

There's no nuance needed. Nowhere there did I defend statutory rape. Polanski should have gone to jail. But do I consider this sort of crime to be the equivalent of child molestation or rape? No I do not. Do I think he should still be condemned for it, 40 years later, in such a way that he has to be a lifetime fugitive from justice? No I do not. If that makes me sick in your eyes, oh well.

I must not be reading this right. A 43-year-old man puts moves on a 13-year-old girl, touches her inappropriately, undresses her, photographs her without clothes on, then has intercourse with her, and you don't think that's the equivalent of child molestation? Because she's promiscuous?

Don't forget drugged and sodomized. But she was a slut so it's bad but not that bad.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I also wonder what evidence there is that the 13 year old was promiscuous prior to her abuse by Polanski. I mean Tim describes her as such to minimize the fact that she was young, coerced, and then drugged before being sodomized in spite of her apparent clear protestations.

 

[timschochet]

I also wonder what evidence there is that the 13 year old was promiscuous prior to her abuse by Polanski. I mean Tim describes her as such to minimize the fact that she was young, coerced, and then drugged before being sodomized in spite of her apparent clear protestations.

Et tu, Brute?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Caesar, did you not think the Ides of March could occur in August?

 

[Smack Tripper]

He has not only failed himself but he has failed the gay community as his erratic conduct will be felt for some time unfortunately.

Things were going really well for the gay community: sodomy laws struck down, marriage rights in all 50 states, rapidly accelerating social acceptance, etc. But Michael Sam went and spoiled it all.

Please bump this the next time an openly gay guy gets drafted in the nfl.

 

[Sweet J]

whoa.