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MJD any concerns? (1 Viewer)
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karmarooster
Footballguy
he'll probably score too many TDs and get too many receptions for my liking.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Why is that exactly?
Isn't it the same exact poor offense as last season?
rizzler
Footballguy
Well, Im very unimpressed with the quarterbacking situation for starters... the WRs do not leave me jaw dropped either... I see JAX playing from behind often this season, which, yes, MJD can catch the ball ... but it's not enough... he did have only 1-2 receiving tds last season if memory serves me rightMJD from week 9 on last season, 'faded', as did MSW (tho not nearly to the same extent)... 11 of his 15 rushing tds came in the first 8 games of the season (1.37/game) as well as 92yds rushing on average per game.in his last 8 weeks, he totalled 5tds (.62/game), and 82yds rushing per game.So, while I do not subscribe that he is only as good as his final 8 weeks of last season, I do believe that this is when JAX 'came back to earth' in terms of total player production in that given system... MJD should be somewhere in the middle range of those numbers (first and last 8 weeks) while on this current JAX squad..Much like SJax, I believe on a better team and system, their potential is no1RB on the season... but for 2010, I am tempering my expectations, as I believe the final 8 weeks are a more realistic impression of what the Jags are really made of.
rizzler
Footballguy
that's a pretty slimy summary considering they only won 1 more game in their first 8 than their last 8... just sayin'
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bonesman
Footballguy
So... you wouldn't take 1300 rushing yds and 10 TDs from your first round pick?
rizzler
Footballguy
perhaps you should reread what I wrote... unless your first round consists of 5 picks, your comment is pretty senseless
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
IIRC there's some deals out there that if you buy the ESPN Mag subscription you get ESPN Insider as a ride-along. I think I found it all for under $5 - maybe even $1.
LionSlappy
Footballguy
While I am a tad bit down on MJD, I would only drop him from 3 to 4 overall....drafting Rice over him in a PPR format. I wouldnt consider Gore and his injury history & lack of TDs over MJD at any point in time!
I just did the math quickly, so it may be wrong, but I got 167 for 654 (just over 3.9 ypc) and 4 rushing TDs along with 23 catches for 163 yards and 1 receiving TD in the last 8 games. Not great, but a far cry from "essentially one of the worst statistical RBs in that period".
GoBirds
Footballguy
Why?
worried about jax oline, lack of WR, offense in general. Plus love Gore schedule, especially playoff time.
GoBirds
Footballguy
What about Gore's lack of TD's, now Westbrook, and more injuries than MJD.
westbrook is one concussion from retirement, not that concern. 49ers will commit to the run.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Seems like a crapshoot between MJD, Rice, and I guess Gore as well.
the spanker
Footballguy
MJD, Rice if McGahee gets traded.
bonesman
Footballguy
I think you're purposely avoiding my point.
LionSlappy
Footballguy
Kinda what i was thinking but this does not burst the projections up too much in my book. If McGahee is there he gets 10-12 total tds, if not 11-13. McLain will get more an increase in tds than Rice. Were Rice will get more a hike is in number of carries and yds. All this talk about Parmale scares me too though.
OnThInIcE911
Footballguy
Someone in my leagues please read this and let me get MJD cheap.
Please Please Please!
TD's are fluky and his yards per game drop is well within standard deviation for a season. Better chance of being a top 5 RB than Gore or Rice and has better upside.
I wouldn't really fault anyone for taking Gore or Rice over him but to pass on him at 5 would be throwing away money.
Please Please Please!
TD's are fluky and his yards per game drop is well within standard deviation for a season. Better chance of being a top 5 RB than Gore or Rice and has better upside.
I wouldn't really fault anyone for taking Gore or Rice over him but to pass on him at 5 would be throwing away money.
Football Jones
Footballguy
MJD is about as good as it gets in FF (& we do play FF). Basically, a no-risk draft pick.
He'll come through with yards, receptions, & most importantly, TDs.
He'll come through with yards, receptions, & most importantly, TDs.
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I watched what I could of MJD last year because he was on my fantasy squad. I don't doubt his talent, but I don't care much for his situation. Garrard doesn't really scare people enough to shift the focus away from stopping MJD and Del Rio doesn't seem innovative enough to utilize MJD more effectively. It was very frustrating at times watching MJD out of the game plan after they got behind in games. There were five games last year when he got 15 carries or less, on an offense that didn't really have a lot of other options. I don't trust the coaching staff and I think the offense is regressing in general.
I believe I also just read something about two of their promising young tackles dealing with some injuries, although I don't recall the extent of the injuries.
I don't think he'll be a bust, but I can see drafting someone like Gore or maybe even Turner over him. I'd probably still take him over Rice as I'm concerned with Rice's lack of TD opportunities (in a non-PPR league).
I believe I also just read something about two of their promising young tackles dealing with some injuries, although I don't recall the extent of the injuries.
I don't think he'll be a bust, but I can see drafting someone like Gore or maybe even Turner over him. I'd probably still take him over Rice as I'm concerned with Rice's lack of TD opportunities (in a non-PPR league).
OnThInIcE911
Footballguy
Same Offense as last year and he had OL problems last year too.
Don't over think this one guys.
Don't over think this one guys.
yeah, I don't get this whole "their QB situation isn't good, their WRs aren't good, their OL isn't good". Ok, great. So...just like the last 4 years then, right? 
gentlemen, the only thing about that team offensively that's changed over the last 4 years is that MJD is now the absolute focus of the offense. he was like that last season and put up his standard 15(ish) TDs, 50(ish) receptions and now that he got a 300 carry load, he put up, what, 1300(ish) rushing yards to go with his 350-400 receiving yards?
guy has averaged 14 TDs per season for his career. He's solid.
gentlemen, the only thing about that team offensively that's changed over the last 4 years is that MJD is now the absolute focus of the offense. he was like that last season and put up his standard 15(ish) TDs, 50(ish) receptions and now that he got a 300 carry load, he put up, what, 1300(ish) rushing yards to go with his 350-400 receiving yards?
guy has averaged 14 TDs per season for his career. He's solid.
I won't argue that he's not solid, but I could see him taking enough of a hit this year so that guys like Gore and Turner end up finishing above him. That's all I'm saying.Jacksonville just doesn't appear to be moving in the right direction as a team. The rest of their division is improving while they're getting worse. Del Rio doesn't appear to be a very good coach. So, is MJD going to fall of the map? No, but I wouldn't be surprised if he finished behind Gore and Turner. That's my argument. He's still a first round pick.yeah, I don't get this whole "their QB situation isn't good, their WRs aren't good, their OL isn't good". Ok, great. So...just like the last 4 years then, right?
Yellow Line is Unoffcial
Footballguy
Having a successful year means projecting what 5 backs move into the top ten that wern't there the year before, and what 5 backs will take thier place.
For my money I could see Gore, Turner, Best, and Mathews all finishing ahead of MJD
For my money I could see Gore, Turner, Best, and Mathews all finishing ahead of MJD
the spanker
Footballguy
Since we're talking about your money, do you see this happening in PPR?
Not speaking for Yellow Line, but one would think Gore and Best still have a chance in PPR, maybe less so for Turner and Matthews.
rizzler
Footballguy
Dear Inspector Clouseau,how am I avoiding your point? I responded CLEARLY to what you asked. I said earlier I would NOT take him with a top 5 pick... so that leaves open the possibility of me taking him 6th overall in THE FIRST ROUND.quit trying to be a smartass and clearly failing at it. it's agitating that your nitpicking about things I NEVER stated than trying to have a logical discussion. Do you play in a 5 man league??? if so, then you win this battle, clearly.. because then yes, MJD would be a second round player in my eyes, this season.So, again... how was I avoiding your point?Thanks in advance.I think you're purposely avoiding my point.
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