MJD vs Tenn Def? (1 Viewer)

[Al Toon's Mole]

Tenn. has a pretty damn solid Def, but with the poor passing game, JAX should be able to contain Lendale and C.J. in the run game. I think Garrard has some success early on and we see plenty of work from MJD in the running game to control the clock and keep the game locked up.

As I have not heard anything else about the ankle injury MJD was dealing with, I'd say he is good for about 12-15 touches for about 85 yds, 3-5 catches 30-50 yds and a TD.

With the recent news about Fred Taylor and his arrest, I just don't see him producing and he has to start slowing down soon, right??

 

[shader]

Well MJD is a stud, and you always start your studs. That being said, he's not going to do much in the running game. Jacksonville's O-line is no match for the Titans D-line.

I do think MJD will get some decent yardage on screens and flare-outs.

You have to play him, even though it's not a very favorable matchup.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

Well MJD is a stud, and you always start your studs. That being said, he's not going to do much in the running game. Jacksonville's O-line is no match for the Titans D-line.I do think MJD will get some decent yardage on screens and flare-outs.You have to play him, even though it's not a very favorable matchup.

People say the same thing about Grant vs. Minn Def. Though in all fairness, Grant is still not 100% healthy. But I don't see the Tenn D stopping the run attack. Tough match-up or not, I still see MJD having a good game, and Taylor with his usual 18 carries for 63 yds.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...622&hl=jags

 

[Ripleys]

I think MJD has a very very very good day this weekend. Call it a hunch.

 

[Chaka]

MJD is one of those players that can have an impact against even the most stout run defenses. You can't really game plan for him because very few teams have a guy that can emulate his pinball like moves and balance. He is thick in the hips, has tremendous balance and vision and even one slightly misjudged angle or failure to completely wrap up by a defender and MJD can take it to the house.

Much like Barry Sanders MJD can make up for 10 consecutive zero or negative gain rushes on one play.

As much as I don't like the matchup this week you simply cannot sit a player like MJD. If you do he will make you regret it more often than not.

 

[Balance]

Game Date Opp Result G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost

1 09/09 TEN L 10-13 1 0 7 32 4.6 23 0 3 28 9.3 20 0 1 1

or

10 11/11 @ TEN W 28-13 1 0 19 101 5.3 30 1 3 28 9.3 10 0 -- --

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

MJD is one of those players that can have an impact against even the most stout run defenses. You can't really game plan for him because very few teams have a guy that can emulate his pinball like moves and balance. He is thick in the hips, has tremendous balance and vision and even one slightly misjudged angle or failure to completely wrap up by a defender and MJD can take it to the house.

Much like Barry Sanders MJD can make up for 10 consecutive zero or negative gain rushes on one play.

As much as I don't like the matchup this week you simply cannot sit a player like MJD. If you do he will make you regret it more often than not.

My exact point. Even with Taylor as the #1, I just dont see how he can not be outperformed. Is anyone on the Fred Taylor train anymore....because I'm pretty sure it's MJD's time to steal the show finally.

 

[shader]

Game Date Opp Result G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost

1 09/09 TEN L 10-13 1 0 7 32 4.6 23 0 3 28 9.3 20 0 1 1

or

10 11/11 @ TEN W 28-13 1 0 19 101 5.3 30 1 3 28 9.3 10 0 -- --

Albert Haynesworth wasn't playing in that second game.He's not going to have a good day running the ball against the Titans in week one. Not a chance in the world that he gets 100 yards.

I'm not saying he can't get 50 yards rushing, 50 yards receiving and score a TD for a nice, solid day...But this isn't going to be a huge week for MJD.

 

[big0mar]

Tennessee's defense is not going to be what it was last year

 

[Chaka]

MJD is one of those players that can have an impact against even the most stout run defenses. You can't really game plan for him because very few teams have a guy that can emulate his pinball like moves and balance. He is thick in the hips, has tremendous balance and vision and even one slightly misjudged angle or failure to completely wrap up by a defender and MJD can take it to the house.

Much like Barry Sanders MJD can make up for 10 consecutive zero or negative gain rushes on one play.

As much as I don't like the matchup this week you simply cannot sit a player like MJD. If you do he will make you regret it more often than not.

My exact point. Even with Taylor as the #1, I just dont see how he can not be outperformed. Is anyone on the Fred Taylor train anymore....because I'm pretty sure it's MJD's time to steal the show finally.

I believe in Fred. But a back like Fred simply doesn't have the wiggle that a guy like MJD possesses. A defense is far more likely to be able to gameplan for and contain a back like Fred. Barring a huge defensive collapse by Tenn I don't like Fred's prospects this week and would gladly sit him for other RBs in time share situations (Selvin at Oakland comes to mind).

 

[shader]

Tennessee's defense is not going to be what it was last year

It's going to be much, much better than last year.Would you mind letting me know why you think it's going to be worse?

 

[Kyzersosik]

here`s my hunch, 125 total yds 2 scores

 

[AnonymousBob]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Game Date Opp Result G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost

1 09/09 TEN L 10-13 1 0 7 32 4.6 23 0 3 28 9.3 20 0 1 1

or

10 11/11 @ TEN W 28-13 1 0 19 101 5.3 30 1 3 28 9.3 10 0 -- --

Albert Haynesworth wasn't playing in that second game.He's not going to have a good day running the ball against the Titans in week one. Not a chance in the world that he gets 100 yards.

I'm not saying he can't get 50 yards rushing, 50 yards receiving and score a TD for a nice, solid day...But this isn't going to be a huge week for MJD.

0% chance. Really?

 

[Chaka]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

 

[Gr00vus]

Tennessee's defense is not going to be what it was last year

It's going to be much, much better than last year.Would you mind letting me know why you think it's going to be worse?

 

[AnonymousBob]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I'd even consider Maurice Morris.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

Anyone have the stones to actually play Fred Taylor??

 

[Chaka]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I'd even consider Maurice Morris.

I can see the argument for Turner but no way McFadden or Mo-Mo should see the field before MJD.Not to say, when the dust settles, either guy won't outproduce MJD, but no way can you justify starting them over MJD.

 

[shader]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I'd even consider Maurice Morris.

I can see the argument for Turner but no way McFadden or Mo-Mo should see the field before MJD.Not to say, when the dust settles, either guy won't outproduce MJD, but no way can you justify starting them over MJD.

I would start McFadden over MJD and feel great about it. But I wouldn't start Morris over MJD at any point EVER during the season.But then I love McFadden and seem to have a much higher opinion of the Titans defense than many.

 

[Chaka]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I'd even consider Maurice Morris.

I can see the argument for Turner but no way McFadden or Mo-Mo should see the field before MJD.Not to say, when the dust settles, either guy won't outproduce MJD, but no way can you justify starting them over MJD.

I would start McFadden over MJD and feel great about it. But I wouldn't start Morris over MJD at any point EVER during the season.But then I love McFadden and seem to have a much higher opinion of the Titans defense than many.

I get the McFadden love but I think it behooves all McFadden owners to see what the Raiders actually decide to do with the guy before starting him over proven players like MJD.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I%d even consider Maurice Morris.

I can see the argument for Turner but no way McFadden or Mo-Mo should see the field before MJD.Not to say, when the dust settles, either guy won%t outproduce MJD, but no way can you justify starting them over MJD.

McFadden is on a team that appears to have an extremely good rushing attack. They aren%t going to pass the ball very much and they%re going against a terrible run defense. McFadden is the backup just like MJD but he has the much easier matchup.Morris is the starting rb on a team that has few receivers still standing. Julius Jones is at best a mediocre back (hence the reason he lost his job to Morris). They%re going against a team that likely won%t score a lot of points so both teams can rely on the run a lot in this game. The Bills just lost arguably their best lineman vs. the run and his replacement hasn%t looked so great in his stead.If your league gives points for return yardage then MJD probably gets the nod here. Other than that I think people are forgetting Fred Taylor is the starter and they%re going against the Titans - a team with a VERY good run defense.ETA - Both players would be a gamble over MJD but imo an entirely reasonable one.

 

[Chaka]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I%d even consider Maurice Morris.

I can see the argument for Turner but no way McFadden or Mo-Mo should see the field before MJD.Not to say, when the dust settles, either guy won%t outproduce MJD, but no way can you justify starting them over MJD.

McFadden is on a team that appears to have an extremely good rushing attack. They aren%t going to pass the ball very much and they%re going against a terrible run defense. McFadden is the backup just like MJD but he has the much easier matchup.Morris is the starting rb on a team that has few receivers still standing. Julius Jones is at best a mediocre back (hence the reason he lost his job to Morris). They%re going against a team that likely won%t score a lot of points so both teams can rely on the run a lot in this game. The Bills just lost arguably their best lineman vs. the run and his replacement hasn%t looked so great in his stead.If your league gives points for return yardage then MJD probably gets the nod here. Other than that I think people are forgetting Fred Taylor is the starter and they%re going against the Titans - a team with a VERY good run defense.ETA - Both players would be a gamble over MJD but imo an entirely reasonable one.

All valid points. But I think you are outhinking yourself when you decide to play matchups over proven players in week 1.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I%d even consider Maurice Morris.

I can see the argument for Turner but no way McFadden or Mo-Mo should see the field before MJD.Not to say, when the dust settles, either guy won%t outproduce MJD, but no way can you justify starting them over MJD.

McFadden is on a team that appears to have an extremely good rushing attack. They aren%t going to pass the ball very much and they%re going against a terrible run defense. McFadden is the backup just like MJD but he has the much easier matchup.Morris is the starting rb on a team that has few receivers still standing. Julius Jones is at best a mediocre back (hence the reason he lost his job to Morris). They%re going against a team that likely won%t score a lot of points so both teams can rely on the run a lot in this game. The Bills just lost arguably their best lineman vs. the run and his replacement hasn%t looked so great in his stead.If your league gives points for return yardage then MJD probably gets the nod here. Other than that I think people are forgetting Fred Taylor is the starter and they%re going against the Titans - a team with a VERY good run defense.ETA - Both players would be a gamble over MJD but imo an entirely reasonable one.

All valid points. But I think you are outhinking yourself when you decide to play matchups over proven players in week 1.

I dont think he is overthinking to be honest. He makes a point about Taylor being the #1. He is a PROVEN player, and most people would agree that he does not have a high chance at putting up solid #'s against Tenn. and would be fair to assume that 95% of owners would rather start MJD over Taylor this week if they had that choice.

 

[Chaka]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I%d even consider Maurice Morris.

I can see the argument for Turner but no way McFadden or Mo-Mo should see the field before MJD.Not to say, when the dust settles, either guy won%t outproduce MJD, but no way can you justify starting them over MJD.

McFadden is on a team that appears to have an extremely good rushing attack. They aren%t going to pass the ball very much and they%re going against a terrible run defense. McFadden is the backup just like MJD but he has the much easier matchup.Morris is the starting rb on a team that has few receivers still standing. Julius Jones is at best a mediocre back (hence the reason he lost his job to Morris). They%re going against a team that likely won%t score a lot of points so both teams can rely on the run a lot in this game. The Bills just lost arguably their best lineman vs. the run and his replacement hasn%t looked so great in his stead.If your league gives points for return yardage then MJD probably gets the nod here. Other than that I think people are forgetting Fred Taylor is the starter and they%re going against the Titans - a team with a VERY good run defense.ETA - Both players would be a gamble over MJD but imo an entirely reasonable one.

All valid points. But I think you are outhinking yourself when you decide to play matchups over proven players in week 1.

I dont think he is overthinking to be honest. He makes a point about Taylor being the #1. He is a PROVEN player, and most people would agree that he does not have a high chance at putting up solid #'s against Tenn. and would be fair to assume that 95% of owners would rather start MJD over Taylor this week if they had that choice.

Taylor is the starter, no denying that. That didn't stop MJD from going in the second round of most fantasy drafts so I don't see why it would stop his owners from starting him this weekend over guys like McFadden and MoMo.MJD just has that special elusiveness that can go off on any defense no matter the caliber. He's like a coiled spring waiting to jump. You don't know when it is going to happen but you don't want to miss it when it does.

 

[big0mar]

Tennessee's defense is not going to be what it was last year

It's going to be much, much better than last year.Would you mind letting me know why you think it's going to be worse?

Tennessee's defense was TERRIBLE in 2006, then it is GREAT in 2007. There is going to be some regression to the mean.

 

[Gr00vus]

Tennessee's defense is not going to be what it was last year

It's going to be much, much better than last year.Would you mind letting me know why you think it's going to be worse?

Tennessee's defense was TERRIBLE in 2006, then it is GREAT in 2007. There is going to be some regression to the mean.

Is it possible that there were some significant changes to the defense between 2006 and 2007 that might still be in effect that caused the improvement? Is it also possible that there have been further changes between 2007 and this season that may cause improvement as well, if not at least maintain the level established in 2007?

 

[rgmnchr]

Tennessee's defense is not going to be what it was last year

It's going to be much, much better than last year.Would you mind letting me know why you think it's going to be worse?

Tennessee's defense was TERRIBLE in 2006, then it is GREAT in 2007. There is going to be some regression to the mean.

That clears it up for me.

 

[big0mar]

Tennessee's defense is not going to be what it was last year

It's going to be much, much better than last year.Would you mind letting me know why you think it's going to be worse?

Tennessee's defense was TERRIBLE in 2006, then it is GREAT in 2007. There is going to be some regression to the mean.

Is it possible that there were some significant changes to the defense between 2006 and 2007 that might still be in effect that caused the improvement? Is it also possible that there have been further changes between 2007 and this season that may cause improvement as well, if not at least maintain the level established in 2007?

They lost Pacman after 2006. Haynesworth played out of his mind in 2007. They lost Odom this offseason, and replaced him with Jevon Kearse (who is running on empty) or a rookie. Anything is possible, but if people think Derek Anderson wont put up numbers like he did last year, or Tom Brady wont throw 50 TDs again, how can they believe the front-7 of the Titans will play out of its mind and carry that team again?

 

[Horses Mouth]

Tennessee's defense is not going to be what it was last year

It's going to be much, much better than last year.Would you mind letting me know why you think it's going to be worse?

Tennessee's defense was TERRIBLE in 2006, then it is GREAT in 2007. There is going to be some regression to the mean.

you were just itching to use "regression to the mean" in some thread.

 

[benbadman]

Anyone have the stones to actually play Fred Taylor??

Yes. My opponent in a 14 team league this week is playing Freddie, mostly due to he went Rb late in the draft and he's one of his top 2 guys.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Bench him if you have other options. MJD, like many other players, is a very good player but not a fantasy stud.

I would only bench him for a clearly superior option.

Turner, McFadden...I%d even consider Maurice Morris.

I can see the argument for Turner but no way McFadden or Mo-Mo should see the field before MJD.Not to say, when the dust settles, either guy won%t outproduce MJD, but no way can you justify starting them over MJD.

McFadden is on a team that appears to have an extremely good rushing attack. They aren%t going to pass the ball very much and they%re going against a terrible run defense. McFadden is the backup just like MJD but he has the much easier matchup.Morris is the starting rb on a team that has few receivers still standing. Julius Jones is at best a mediocre back (hence the reason he lost his job to Morris). They%re going against a team that likely won%t score a lot of points so both teams can rely on the run a lot in this game. The Bills just lost arguably their best lineman vs. the run and his replacement hasn%t looked so great in his stead.If your league gives points for return yardage then MJD probably gets the nod here. Other than that I think people are forgetting Fred Taylor is the starter and they%re going against the Titans - a team with a VERY good run defense.ETA - Both players would be a gamble over MJD but imo an entirely reasonable one.

All valid points. But I think you are outhinking yourself when you decide to play matchups over proven players in week 1.

I dont think he is overthinking to be honest. He makes a point about Taylor being the #1. He is a PROVEN player, and most people would agree that he does not have a high chance at putting up solid #'s against Tenn. and would be fair to assume that 95% of owners would rather start MJD over Taylor this week if they had that choice.

Taylor is the starter, no denying that. That didn't stop MJD from going in the second round of most fantasy drafts so I don't see why it would stop his owners from starting him this weekend over guys like McFadden and MoMo.MJD just has that special elusiveness that can go off on any defense no matter the caliber. He's like a coiled spring waiting to jump. You don't know when it is going to happen but you don't want to miss it when it does.

Who cares where a guy was drafted? Outside of a very few select studs the rest of the players out there are affected more by matchups than anything else. He could certainly going off-I'm not trying to say that can't happen. But McFadden, Turner and MoMo are just some of the options that look to have a better chance of going off. I see nothing wrong with playing matchups with guys that aren't LT.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Game Date Opp Result G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost

1 09/09 TEN L 10-13 1 0 7 32 4.6 23 0 3 28 9.3 20 0 1 1

or

10 11/11 @ TEN W 28-13 1 0 19 101 5.3 30 1 3 28 9.3 10 0 -- --

Albert Haynesworth wasn't playing in that second game.He's not going to have a good day running the ball against the Titans in week one. Not a chance in the world that he gets 100 yards.

I'm not saying he can't get 50 yards rushing, 50 yards receiving and score a TD for a nice, solid day...But this isn't going to be a huge week for MJD.

Good grief, it's like you're taking it personally or something. Albert Haynesworth is very good but I doubt the Titan's D just folds for 100 yards when he's not in the game. That's a top 5 rushing defense but they're going up against a top 5 rushing offense. Jacksonville's offense should be better this time around also because Garrard has a full year under his belt. Garrard got better as the year went on last year so Jacksonville isn't completely 1 dimensional.

I'm an MJD owner and will start him. I've been burnt too many times not starting my studs. And yes, this year, I believe MJD will be a stud. Especially in a TD heavy league which is what I'm in.

 

[fantasy stud]

I'm starting him over Willie Parker and Chris Johnson and not giving it another thought. The minute I bench him he will break an 80 yarder.

 

[longlip]

I have mjd, grant, and r williams.... I'm starting r williams with barber.. I think williams matchup is better than mjd or grant.. But mjd could easily have a good day..