MJD worth a 1.1or 1.2 pick (1 Viewer)

[ThePittbully]

Would you consider Mo Jones Drew worthy of the 1.1 or 1.2 pick of a rookie draft? He looked good last season, anad scored 16 TD's, but I question if he will hold up over the long haul because of his size. What say you

 

[Beaumont]

If you look where he goes in dynasty start-ups, the answer is less than 1.1 and more than 1.2.

I dont think he is worth either ...

 

[fruity pebbles]

I'd take him all day over Lynch. Peterson is close depending on scoring rules.

 

[streamkeeper]

I'll disagree. I think he is a talent. I also think his size and speed make great sense in the NFL and I think it is to his advantage.

 

[ThePittbully]

I'll disagree. I think he is a talent. I also think his size and speed make great sense in the NFL and I think it is to his advantage.

can you elaborate? And do you consider to be worth one of said picks

 

[Shermanator]

Would you consider Mo Jones Drew worthy of the 1.1 or 1.2 pick of a rookie draft? He looked good last season, anad scored 16 TD's, but I question if he will hold up over the long haul because of his size. What say you

I dont totally understand the question. Are you asking should he go #1 overall if he was a rookie in this years rookie class with Peterson etc? Or knowing what we know now about last year should he go #1 overall over Bush,Addai etc?I wouldnt take him #1 or #2 last year, and I wouldnt take him #1 this year over Peterson, but every thing else is a definate maybe I think

 

[cscmtp]

if this helps, in a startup dynasty, I had the 2.10 pick, and both AP and Drew were there (I was shocked both were still there by the way) I decided to take AP. I'd say 1.1 and Drew are VERY close in value.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Two words. Helk no!

 

[Routilla]

MJD is clearly worth more than any rookie RB.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Would you consider Mo Jones Drew worthy of the 1.1 or 1.2 pick of a rookie draft? He looked good last season, anad scored 16 TD's, but I question if he will hold up over the long haul because of his size. What say you

 

[fruity pebbles]

His game translates very well to the NFL. See a lot of strengths and no real weaknesses.

 

[Keepers]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick).

Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.

Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick). Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

Peterson looks to be in a RBBC himself. And I wouldn't consider Drew small. Short maybe but at 212 pounds he's a monster. His thighs are huge.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick).

Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.

Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

Peterson looks to be in a RBBC himself. And I wouldn't consider Drew small. Short maybe but at 212 pounds he's a monster. His thighs are huge.

You really think Taylor will be able to hold off Peterson for any length of time at all? That will not be a RBBC my friend.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick).

Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.

Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

Peterson looks to be in a RBBC himself. And I wouldn't consider Drew small. Short maybe but at 212 pounds he's a monster. His thighs are huge.

You really think Taylor will be able to hold off Peterson for any length of time at all? That will not be a RBBC my friend.

Yes. For a year or two as a rbbc. Then its all Peterson.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick).

Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.

Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

Peterson looks to be in a RBBC himself. And I wouldn't consider Drew small. Short maybe but at 212 pounds he's a monster. His thighs are huge.

You really think Taylor will be able to hold off Peterson for any length of time at all? That will not be a RBBC my friend.

Yep. Childress has said more than once he wants to run two backs to keep both fresh. It's not a case of holding him off, it's a case of using two guys to their strengths to get the most of both. Addai was clearly better than Rhodes all year, yet they split carries.

 

[Giggity]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick). Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

Do we really need to go over his "size"?Barry SandersEmmitt SmithFrank Gore (who is 5'9!)Steve Smith(I'm not saying Sanders = MJD = Gore = anyone. Just naming successful small players)Sanders had 14 tds in his rookie year, and Smith had 11 tds. MJD was the offensive rookie of the year, period. VY, like the Steelers, are illegitimate champs. MJD now knows what the SeaBags felt like.A 5'7 RB just doesn't come into the league and luck into 15 tds. The guy is a BALLER. He's tough, awesome forward lean, fights for every inch, and is a throw back football player. I don't care how big he is. He's built like a brick#### house. He can take it to the house on any carry, and can kill you with his pass catching ability.Can anyone name another rookie who came into the league and put up 15 tds? Randy Moss? People need to give this kid his due. If he was 6'1 230 people would be drafting him in the top 3, and probably over SJAX/LJ. If AD puts up 15 TDs, people will be drafting him #1 overall in every format next year. Just imagine, AD gets *15* TDs this year. People will be calling him the next Jim Brown. But if he's 5'7, ehhh sounds fishy. He should get more credit because he's doing more with less.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick). Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

Do we really need to go over his "size"?Barry SandersEmmitt SmithFrank Gore (who is 5'9!)Steve Smith(I'm not saying Sanders = MJD = Gore = anyone. Just naming successful small players)Sanders had 14 tds in his rookie year, and Smith had 11 tds. MJD was the offensive rookie of the year, period. VY, like the Steelers, are illegitimate champs. MJD now knows what the SeaBags felt like.A 5'7 RB just doesn't come into the league and luck into 15 tds. The guy is a BALLER. He's tough, awesome forward lean, fights for every inch, and is a throw back football player. I don't care how big he is. He's built like a brick#### house. He can take it to the house on any carry, and can kill you with his pass catching ability.Can anyone name another rookie who came into the league and put up 15 tds? Randy Moss? People need to give this kid his due. If he was 6'1 230 people would be drafting him in the top 3, and probably over SJAX/LJ. If AD puts up 15 TDs, people will be drafting him #1 overall in every format next year. Just imagine, AD gets *15* TDs this year. People will be calling him the next Jim Brown. But if he's 5'7, ehhh sounds fishy. He should get more credit because he's doing more with less.

:X You're right, if he was 5'10" instead of 5'7" he would be a top 5 pick. I think he's built perfectly for the NFL. Very hard to get a clean shot at him because you can't get into his body. A great deal of his mass is in his thighs. Guy squats over 600 pounds and runs a 4.39 forty.

 

[Ilov80s]

The Amazing Jones-Drew Has It All

The Amazing Rookie Season

Rushing: 166 carries / 941 yards / 5.7 ypc / 13 td / 1 fumble

Receiving: 46 receptions / 436 yards / 2 tds /

KR: 31 returns / 436 yards / 27.7 average (3rd best in NFL) / 1td

Games Started: 1

I Bet You Didn't Know...

...Jones-Drew picked up a 1st down on 28% of his carries. LT picked up a 1st down on only 23% of his runs.

LJ and Gore finished at 22%.

...Jones-Drew had the highest yards per carry average of any RB receiving atleast 100 carries.

...Jones-Drew ranks 4th in the AFC for lowest % of runs stuffed.

...53% of his rushing TDs were scored inside the 10 yard line- most in the AFC.

He Has the Highlights

When was the last time you saw 1 player make so many good pros look so silly?

He has the Credentials

Never lost a HS game. He played in the nationally televised, first-ever meeting between the nation's #1 and #2 HS teams. He scored 4 tds. Scouts rated him as the #1 RB prospect in the nation.

In college he set numerous UCLA, PAC-10, and National Recrods.

What Makes Him Special?

He uses his body to his advantage: his low center of gravity makes him very difficult to topple and in the age of giants (what defender isn't atleast 6-3 these days?), his lack of height makes him difficult to spot and difficult for giant defenders to reach . Very fast game speed, sharp cuts, quick change of directions, relentless will, great leg drive, powerful lower body, strong instincts, good hands, runs through arm tackles with ease and possesses amazing balance.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick).

Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.

Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

Peterson looks to be in a RBBC himself. And I wouldn't consider Drew small. Short maybe but at 212 pounds he's a monster. His thighs are huge.

You really think Taylor will be able to hold off Peterson for any length of time at all? That will not be a RBBC my friend.

Yep. Childress has said more than once he wants to run two backs to keep both fresh. It's not a case of holding him off, it's a case of using two guys to their strengths to get the most of both. Addai was clearly better than Rhodes all year, yet they split carries.

...and Addia was still an RB1, if memory serves.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Not over Peterson for sure (not over the 1.1 pick).

Johnson is a talent and I would take him over any RBBC RB. The argument may be made that MJD will eventually be the feature RB and be just as good as he was last year but too often this isn't the case and considering MJD's size think it is even less likely.

Would take him over the 1.3 pick for sure.

Peterson looks to be in a RBBC himself. And I wouldn't consider Drew small. Short maybe but at 212 pounds he's a monster. His thighs are huge.

You really think Taylor will be able to hold off Peterson for any length of time at all? That will not be a RBBC my friend.

Yep. Childress has said more than once he wants to run two backs to keep both fresh. It's not a case of holding him off, it's a case of using two guys to their strengths to get the most of both. Addai was clearly better than Rhodes all year, yet they split carries.

...and Addai was still an RB1, if memory serves.

But he was still behind MJD.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

The Amazing Jones-Drew Has It All

The Amazing Rookie Season

Rushing: 166 carries / 941 yards / 5.7 ypc / 13 td / 1 fumble

Receiving: 46 receptions / 436 yards / 2 tds /

KR: 31 returns / 436 yards / 27.7 average (3rd best in NFL) / 1td

Games Started: 1

I Bet You Didn't Know...

...Jones-Drew picked up a 1st down on 28% of his carries. LT picked up a 1st down on only 23% of his runs.

LJ and Gore finished at 22%.

...Jones-Drew had the highest yards per carry average of any RB receiving atleast 100 carries.

...Jones-Drew ranks 4th in the AFC for lowest % of runs stuffed.

-...53% of his rushing TDs were scored inside the 10 yard line- most in the NFC.

He Has the Highlights

When was the last time you saw 1 player make so many good pros look so silly?

He has the Credentials

Never lost a HS game. He played in the nationally televised, first-ever meeting between the nation's #1 and #2 HS teams. He scored 4 tds. Scouts rated him as the #1 RB prospect in the nation.

In college he set numerous UCLA, PAC-10, and National Recrods.

What Makes Him Special?

He uses his body to his advantage: his low center of gravity makes him very difficult to topple and in the age of giants (what defender isn't atleast 6-3 these days?), his lack of height makes him difficult to spot and difficult for giant defenders to reach . Very fast game speed, sharp cuts, quick change of directions, relentless will, great leg drive, powerful lower body, strong instincts, good hands, runs through arm tackles with ease and possesses amazing balance.

I MJD

 

[Stealthycat]

I like him a lot

I traded Larry Johnson, Jason Witten and 1.9 for

TO, MJD and 1.1

I have Romo, I have Fred Taylor - it made sense

Would I GIVE the 1.1 for MJD ? No ...... I'm too high on Calviin Johnson, but I'd very possibly take the known entity in MJD over the unknown Lynch / Peterson, though both may be very good in the future.

 

[streamkeeper]

The Amazing Jones-Drew Has It All

The Amazing Rookie Season

Rushing: 166 carries / 941 yards / 5.7 ypc / 13 td / 1 fumble

Receiving: 46 receptions / 436 yards / 2 tds /

KR: 31 returns / 436 yards / 27.7 average (3rd best in NFL) / 1td

Games Started: 1

I Bet You Didn't Know...

...Jones-Drew picked up a 1st down on 28% of his carries. LT picked up a 1st down on only 23% of his runs.

LJ and Gore finished at 22%.

...Jones-Drew had the highest yards per carry average of any RB receiving atleast 100 carries.

...Jones-Drew ranks 4th in the AFC for lowest % of runs stuffed.

...53% of his rushing TDs were scored inside the 10 yard line- most in the AFC.

He Has the Highlights

When was the last time you saw 1 player make so many good pros look so silly?

He has the Credentials

Never lost a HS game. He played in the nationally televised, first-ever meeting between the nation's #1 and #2 HS teams. He scored 4 tds. Scouts rated him as the #1 RB prospect in the nation.

In college he set numerous UCLA, PAC-10, and National Recrods.

What Makes Him Special?

He uses his body to his advantage: his low center of gravity makes him very difficult to topple and in the age of giants (what defender isn't atleast 6-3 these days?), his lack of height makes him difficult to spot and difficult for giant defenders to reach . Very fast game speed, sharp cuts, quick change of directions, relentless will, great leg drive, powerful lower body, strong instincts, good hands, runs through arm tackles with ease and possesses amazing balance.

Best post I hope nobody reads. I can't understand why everyone questions MJD more than these incomming rookies. I think he has already proven he can play on this level and he has no outstanding history of injuries like AD. I would call MJD the safer pick right now, but if you play in one of my leagues please disregard this entire post.

 

[Wadsworth]

Yes, MJD just had a huge rookie season, he's on a teams with a strong defense and commitment to the run game, that team's biggest free agency signing was a right tackle, the team is currently 2 deep at every O-line position with legit NFL players, the only back fighting him for carries is over 30 and has been injury prone.. There's no value here, move on.

If MJD played in Dallas, Chicago, or any team with a national fan base that had loads of games on TV he'd be the darling of the fantasy world right now. I can only assume that most people didn't see him play and think it was some kind of a flute. It's no fluke, the guy has NFL superstar skills. Don't make the mistake of remembering all the predraft scouting reports that caused him to fall. The scouts were dead wrong. This guy is going to be putting big fantasy numbers for a long time.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I passed on MJD TWICE in the 2nd round of a rookie draft. History was against a guy with his height being successful.

But at this point, I don't know what else he could do to prove he can play and be a star in the NFL. The guy might be the most unique talent in the NFL. There is NO ONE like him.

That said, to be honest I think I would trade him even now for either 1.1 or 1.2. But as evidenced by the first sentence, I'm not too bright.

 

[ThePittbully]

OK this thread has pretty much convinced me that I do want him, and I have both the 1.1 and 1.2 pick. The guy who has him is not all that high on him. If you were me and you gave up 1.2 with him, would you take CJ or AD. Im thinking AD but I could use another good reciever, especially one who could be as good as CJ. And all this injury talk about Peterson makes me nervous

 

[NOONAN]

OK this thread has pretty much convinced me that I do want him, and I have both the 1.1 and 1.2 pick. The guy who has him is not all that high on him. If you were me and you gave up 1.2 with him, would you take CJ or AD. Im thinking AD but I could use another good reciever, especially one who could be as good as CJ. And all this injury talk about Peterson makes me nervous

If your MJD owner is oblivious to the talents of said RB, don't show him this thread or the video clip!!!That being said, maybe you could get MJD for a little less? Why not offer another owner a package for your 1.2 and then send a 1.4 or 1.5 to the MJD owner, if you can get that in a package. For example, the owner with pick 1.4 might throw in round 2 pick or another player for your 1.2. That way, you take advantage of the MJD owner's lack of love and get another pick/player out of the deal.HTHGood luck

 

[ThePittbully]

OK this thread has pretty much convinced me that I do want him, and I have both the 1.1 and 1.2 pick. The guy who has him is not all that high on him. If you were me and you gave up 1.2 with him, would you take CJ or AD. Im thinking AD but I could use another good reciever, especially one who could be as good as CJ. And all this injury talk about Peterson makes me nervous

If your MJD owner is oblivious to the talents of said RB, don't show him this thread or the video clip!!!That being said, maybe you could get MJD for a little less? Why not offer another owner a package for your 1.2 and then send a 1.4 or 1.5 to the MJD owner, if you can get that in a package. For example, the owner with pick 1.4 might throw in round 2 pick or another player for your 1.2. That way, you take advantage of the MJD owner's lack of love and get another pick/player out of the deal.HTHGood luck

If I could maneuver MJD, Fred Taylor for 1.2 or possibly even Taylor, MJD, and 2.10 for 1.2...should I take that and run

 

[streamkeeper]

OK this thread has pretty much convinced me that I do want him, and I have both the 1.1 and 1.2 pick. The guy who has him is not all that high on him. If you were me and you gave up 1.2 with him, would you take CJ or AD. Im thinking AD but I could use another good reciever, especially one who could be as good as CJ. And all this injury talk about Peterson makes me nervous

If your MJD owner is oblivious to the talents of said RB, don't show him this thread or the video clip!!!That being said, maybe you could get MJD for a little less? Why not offer another owner a package for your 1.2 and then send a 1.4 or 1.5 to the MJD owner, if you can get that in a package. For example, the owner with pick 1.4 might throw in round 2 pick or another player for your 1.2. That way, you take advantage of the MJD owner's lack of love and get another pick/player out of the deal.HTHGood luck

If I could maneuver MJD, Fred Taylor for 1.2 or possibly even Taylor, MJD, and 2.10 for 1.2...should I take that and run

Yes, take it a run.

 

[NOONAN]

OK this thread has pretty much convinced me that I do want him, and I have both the 1.1 and 1.2 pick. The guy who has him is not all that high on him. If you were me and you gave up 1.2 with him, would you take CJ or AD. Im thinking AD but I could use another good reciever, especially one who could be as good as CJ. And all this injury talk about Peterson makes me nervous

If your MJD owner is oblivious to the talents of said RB, don't show him this thread or the video clip!!!That being said, maybe you could get MJD for a little less? Why not offer another owner a package for your 1.2 and then send a 1.4 or 1.5 to the MJD owner, if you can get that in a package. For example, the owner with pick 1.4 might throw in round 2 pick or another player for your 1.2. That way, you take advantage of the MJD owner's lack of love and get another pick/player out of the deal.HTHGood luck

If I could maneuver MJD, Fred Taylor for 1.2 or possibly even Taylor, MJD, and 2.10 for 1.2...should I take that and run

Yes, take it a run.

Agreed.

 

[ThePittbully]

Well who would you suggest taking at 1.1

 

[GDogg]

Maurice is my favorite player. I have a feeling I am going to be kicking myself for not keeping him.

If I can, I'll be drafting him at 1.08 in a two player, 10 team keeper league. I just don't think he'll fall to me.

 

[streamkeeper]

Maurice is my favorite player. I have a feeling I am going to be kicking myself for not keeping him.If I can, I'll be drafting him at 1.08 in a two player, 10 team keeper league. I just don't think he'll fall to me.

I play in the same type of league and there is no way he will fall to 1.8 if I released him.BTW We declare keepers at the end of this month and an MJD love post is just what I needed. For the record I am keeping MJD over R Brown and Portis. Yeah, yeah, yeah I know this goes against the rankings I see on this site, but I think MJD has more potiential.

 

[GDogg]

Maurice is my favorite player. I have a feeling I am going to be kicking myself for not keeping him.If I can, I'll be drafting him at 1.08 in a two player, 10 team keeper league. I just don't think he'll fall to me.

I play in the same type of league and there is no way he will fall to 1.8 if I released him.BTW We declare keepers at the end of this month and an MJD love post is just what I needed. For the record I am keeping MJD over R Brown and Portis. Yeah, yeah, yeah I know this goes against the rankings I see on this site, but I think MJD has more potiential.

Interesting. I'd probably keep him over Brown, but it would be hard for me to part with Portis.I'm keeping Frank Gore and Reggie Bush over him (at the moment).

 

[streamkeeper]

Maurice is my favorite player. I have a feeling I am going to be kicking myself for not keeping him.If I can, I'll be drafting him at 1.08 in a two player, 10 team keeper league. I just don't think he'll fall to me.

I play in the same type of league and there is no way he will fall to 1.8 if I released him.BTW We declare keepers at the end of this month and an MJD love post is just what I needed. For the record I am keeping MJD over R Brown and Portis. Yeah, yeah, yeah I know this goes against the rankings I see on this site, but I think MJD has more potiential.

Interesting. I'd probably keep him over Brown, but it would be hard for me to part with Portis.I'm keeping Frank Gore and Reggie Bush over him (at the moment).

It is a hard decision, but I am tired of watching a Daniel Snyder run team.

 

[ThePittbully]

I would keep him over Portis because of Betts and Portis' injuries. I would definitely keep him over Brown, all I keep hearing is how bad that O line is gonna be

 

[streamkeeper]

Even though this is a bit of a hikjack, I wanted it to be known that I am putting my money where my mouth is. I have kept MJD over Portis and R Brown.

I just liked what I saw last year.......

 

[Crimedogg32]

Id have to rank them 1.1 (AP) MJD, 1.2 (Lynch)

 

[ThePittbully]

Even though this is a bit of a hikjack, I wanted it to be known that I am putting my money where my mouth is. I have kept MJD over Portis and R Brown.I just liked what I saw last year.......

I think its a good move

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I believe MJD's ADP is lower than ADP's ADP (whew) in most dynasty start-up drafts. So take that for what it's worth...

I would certainly not trade the 1.01 for MJD this year. 1.02 though, probably (assuming ADP went 1.01).