Mohamed Massaquoi (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

Pros and Cons...let's start with the cons.

1. Plays in Cleveland where things seem to be in flux at the moment. Perhaps the WR1 in Cleveland for 2012 isn't even on the team.

2. Had a terrible reception to target ratio...well under 50% perhaps under 40%.

3. I think he was drafted after Robiskie, if that matters at all but he is competing for playing time.

Pros...

1. Cleveland has not signed anyone else at WR, and unless they draft Dez Bryant there will not be much competition for him.

2. While he had a lot of 1/20 in the box score many weeks, he also peppered in some big games, let's go thru them. 3rd game of the season as a rookie against a strong Cinci pass defense last year, he ripped off 8/148...Massaquoi doesn't dish out punishment, he simply hits for distance. MM has over an 18 yard per catch average, that is hard to find in the NFL for a WR that is starting. 5/83 @Pitt, 5/115/Td @Det, 3 Tds in 6 weeks over the 2nd half of the season.

3. Good size, this guy goes about 6' 2", 210 depending on hwere you find the info, but he isn't small and I think he could add another 5-10 lbs if he wants. He played ball in HS with Hakeem Nicks, this would be like Steve SMith playing college ball at SMCC with Ochocinco, they rubbed off on each other. I think Nicks and Massaquoi on the same team was probably good. The HS football team never lost a game and Massaquoi helped them win 4 state titles in a row...guy knows how to win games.

4. He had Matt Stafford throwing him balls at Univ of GA, had 58/900/6Tds as a Senior and Georgia is not really a throw first type program. He went form Stafford to Quinn/Anderson, I'll let you be the judge if this was an upgrade or downgrade.

5. Jake Delhomme...sure he stunk in Car last year but a lot of QBs have an off year along the way. I think JD will be energized, change of scenery probably is good for him. Delhomme to me is an improvement for Massaquoi.

Massaquoi had 34/620/3Tds as a rookie which isn't bad. I really see north of 50 receptions for him. Is 60/900/6Tds just too far into left field for everyone? This is aguy you can get well into double digits and IMO he will be more than a spot starter, could be a solid WR2/3 and when he hits, he hits for distance. When you get a big game form him it is going to matter. He's the type of WR that can have 6/120/Td some weeks.

What do you see as the downside? Help MOP not get too optimistic about this guy.

 

[EBF]

Meh. He's nothing special and will be relegated to the WR2 role the minute they find a legitimate #1 receiver. Considering how poorly the Browns assemble personnel, that could be a long minute, but this isn't a guy that I would rush out to acquire. While he's definitely a good athlete, he's kind of a size/speed tweener with neither the reliable possession game nor the elite downfield playmaking skills to fully thrive in either role. He doesn't catch the ball consistently and he was never an elite stats guy in college despite catching passes from a guy who was allegedly the best QB in his draft class.

I think his ceiling for next year is something like 55 catches for 900 yards and a few TDs. He's basically Reggie Brown, which may or may not be a good thing depending on what league you're in and what you have to give up to get him.

 

[TS Garp]

I agree that he's definitely flying under the radar. He showed some nice flashes -- 8/148 against the Bengals is pretty impressive -- and there's upside, but if Delhomme is starting at QB, I think we have to seriously temper expectations. I think he'll have some a couple of big games but will likely be erratic. If I had to make a projection, I'd say 50/830/5. Someone to watch in dynasty leagues.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think his ceiling for next year is something like 55 catches for 900 yards and a few TDs. He's basically Reggie Brown, which may or may not be a good thing depending on what league you're in and what you have to give up to get him.

If he puts up those numbers I promise you he'll live up to his ADP. I look at him like a guy who's a possible fill in for a flex or WR3 league whether it's bye weeks or a good passing matchup for Cleveland.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Short term fix for your fantasy team and that's a best case scenario. The guy is terrified to go over the middle.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Though Delhomme does like to lock onto a player...so if Massaquoi becomes that target he'll be decent just based upon the sheer number of passes thrown his way.

 

[EBF]

I think his ceiling for next year is something like 55 catches for 900 yards and a few TDs. He's basically Reggie Brown, which may or may not be a good thing depending on what league you're in and what you have to give up to get him.

If he puts up those numbers I promise you he'll live up to his ADP. I look at him like a guy who's a possible fill in for a flex or WR3 league whether it's bye weeks or a good passing matchup for Cleveland.

Yea, I don't have any problem with that. He definitely has a nice opportunity on a team that has absolutely no real threats the passing game. If Ashley Lelie can have a 1000 yard season then there might be hope for Massaquoi. However, if you're looking for the next Chad Johnson or Reggie Wayne, you should probably look elsewhere.

 

[MAC_32]

Him and Robiskie would both be better if they had a true #1 opposite them with Massaquoi having more fantasy upside, but neither are going to help much regardless. One-on-one Massaquoi can make plays down field, but he's inconsistent (toughness and focus issues) and limited, physically.

 

[David Yudkin]

Delhomme has put up 441-769-5508-24-35 in his last 28 games including the disaster in the playoffs.

That works out to a 57% completion rate, 196 yards, .85 TD, and 1.25 TD per game . . . on a team he was familiar with, knew the playbook, and had some decent offensive players.

Now he's going to Cleveland. Massaquoi might be worth a flyer, but I would be surprised if he had a true breakout. There's always a chance Delhomme gets tunnel vision like he did with SSmith, so I would consider rostering him just on that. But As I said, I would temper my enthusiasm a little bit . . .

 

[saintfool]

he had a decent rookie season despite atrocious QB play and an iffy running game for much of the season. he has the opportunity to repeat. definite "hold" candidate in my book. if someone wanted to make me an offer which i felt was overpaying then i would gladly pull the trigger on it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Delhomme has put up 441-769-5508-24-35 in his last 28 games including the disaster in the playoffs.That works out to a 57% completion rate, 196 yards, .85 TD, and 1.25 TD per game . . . on a team he was familiar with, knew the playbook, and had some decent offensive players.Now he's going to Cleveland. Massaquoi might be worth a flyer, but I would be surprised if he had a true breakout. There's always a chance Delhomme gets tunnel vision like he did with SSmith, so I would consider rostering him just on that. But As I said, I would temper my enthusiasm a little bit . . .

Dave, he had 34/624/3Tds...do you think his numbers go down?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I might add, we're talking about a guy that can be had much later...anyone I can get in the double digit range that has an upside of 50-60/750-900/4-6Tds...what's not to like? I'm not pumping dynasty here.

 

[TS Garp]

I might add, we're talking about a guy that can be had much later...anyone I can get in the double digit range that has an upside of 50-60/750-900/4-6Tds...what's not to like? I'm not pumping dynasty here.

Agree to some extent, although there are other young high upside WR's who are in better situations and could really break out. Someone started a good thread about breakout WR's and if you look at most of the guys who have broken out lately, they've had a good QB throwing them the ball...

 

[kaa]

Eric Mangini was calling the shots in that draft. Holmgren is now calling the shots, and has no responsibility for drafting Massaquoi. Ultimately, Holmgren may decide to bring some of his own people in or draft his own guys.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I generally prefer to take a flier on a guy who has flashed talent and has little threat in front of him rather than a guy who seems to have no competition but hasn't shown a great deal of talent.

I have no idea who it might be but I wouldn't be shocked if someone else steps up.

Massaquoi is certainly someone I'd take very late in the draft but my feelings won't be hurt in the least if I miss out on him. I'd rather have someone who I feel has a greater downside but a higher upside. But he's not a bad pick for mediocrity in redrafts.

 

[David Yudkin]

Delhomme has put up 441-769-5508-24-35 in his last 28 games including the disaster in the playoffs.That works out to a 57% completion rate, 196 yards, .85 TD, and 1.25 TD per game . . . on a team he was familiar with, knew the playbook, and had some decent offensive players.Now he's going to Cleveland. Massaquoi might be worth a flyer, but I would be surprised if he had a true breakout. There's always a chance Delhomme gets tunnel vision like he did with SSmith, so I would consider rostering him just on that. But As I said, I would temper my enthusiasm a little bit . . .

Dave, he had 34/624/3Tds...do you think his numbers go down?

Receptions up, yardage up, YPR down, a couple more TD. Probably WR 35-45 range (vs #69 last year). Maybe 50/750/5 (Pierre Garcon numbers from last year). Depending on where he gets drafted, he could be a decent value, but I don't think he will be a huge breakout guy. Not a bad guy to take a flyer on, but one of a bunch of guys that typically scores in a similar bandwidth. (There's normally a dozen or a dozen and a half guys in that 95-100 point range (0 PPR) each season.)