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Monetizing a Website/Blog/Book Idea (1 Viewer)

Otis

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I know we've got a bunch of folks on here who have done this and from what I understand done fairly well making a few bucks from it. Mrs. O is looking to start a website / blog / cookbook, and we were trying to figure out the best way to go about it in terms of monetizing it. Hoping to get some tips from the folks here who have done these sorts of things successfully and built up web/publishing businesses at home that have generated some cash.

Here's my initial I-have-no-idea-what-I'm-talking-about thinking in terms of options:

1. Write book, seek to have it published through traditional mechanisms, maybe a website/blog to follow

2. Write book, self publish, perhaps just as E-book in Amazon store etc. (fairly easy to do and inexpensive from what I understand, and if it catches on, you can start raking in some decent loot)

3. Write blog, collect revenue from Google adwords or some other advertising mechanism (my thinking on the upside here is you can generate interest perhaps, but the downside seems to be: why would anyone pay for your book on Amazon when they can read your blog for free?)

4. Start website that includes blog and other info there

She has a couple really interesting ideas that relate to baby stuff and cooking stuff, and I think if done right, and done the right way logistically, they could end up being pretty interesting. Just wondering if anyone here with experience can give some guidance.

TIA

Oats

 
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imho, it's all about content, content, content. the monetization is secondary. you have to be a tribe leader and garner trust. Read Seth Godin's stuff for more on that.

keep in mind, every 48 hours there is as much information being indexed as all the history of civilization through 2003. think about that? you have to be relevant with content and build a business. It's no different.

for inspiration research Tim Ferriss, Corbett Barr , Leo Babuata, and imo, no one brings it like Gary Vaynerchuk from Wine Library TV.

Content, content, content.

ETA: you have to get traffic (via content) before making money, just to be clear. it has to be a labor of love that happens to make money. like Gary says "if you like Alf, make an Alf blog! if you love Smurfs, Smurf it up!!"

 
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Oat,

Mrs Roboto has a blog. There are tens of thousands of mommy bloggers out there. It's a dime a dozen.

She better have something truly unique. No offense, but chances are someone (or many someones) have done it better and longer. She needs to differentiate herself somehow.

 
I know we've got a bunch of folks on here who have done this and from what I understand done fairly well making a few bucks from it. Mrs. O is looking to start a website / blog / cookbook, and we were trying to figure out the best way to go about it in terms of monetizing it. Hoping to get some tips from the folks here who have done these sorts of things successfully and built up web/publishing businesses at home that have generated some cash. Here's my initial I-have-no-idea-what-I'm-talking-about thinking in terms of options:1. Write book, seek to have it published through traditional mechanisms, maybe a website/blog to follow2. Write book, self publish, perhaps just as E-book in Amazon store etc. (fairly easy to do and inexpensive from what I understand, and if it catches on, you can start raking in some decent loot)3. Write blog, collect revenue from Google adwords or some other advertising mechanism (my thinking on the upside here is you can generate interest perhaps, but the downside seems to be: why would anyone pay for your book on Amazon when they can read your blog for free?)4. Start website that includes blog and other info thereShe has a couple really interesting ideas that relate to baby stuff and cooking stuff, and I think if done right, and done the right way logistically, they could end up being pretty interesting. Just wondering if anyone here with experience can give some guidance.TIAOats
Can't speak to 1 or 2, but for the others:3 - It's actually AdSense as Adwords would be you paying to advertise on other sites/search. Don't make the mistake of thinking free content doesnt have value. In fact, in all but the most extreme cases, i would argue that web traffic has a lot more value than a book being sold on Amazon. Becoming a trusted source on a subject can open countless doors and revenue streams4 - I would absolutely start a website selling the book and other content. You may want to consider becoming an affiliate (ShareASale, Commission Junction, etc) and offering drop ship products on the site as well. Warning, DO NOT invest heavily in inventory until you know what sells for you. In general, the more types of content and original web pages you have, the better. Just dont go copying/pasting the same content all over the web. The last major Google update crushed those who duplicate contentWhatever route you go, be sure that Mrs O truly loves what it is she is writing about. Thats the only way she'll be able to persevere and put in the time and effort required when things get tough
 
Thanks, good info so far.

IMHO it's a fairly unique idea and she brings a unique combination of interests to it. The more we talk through it, the more I could see it having lots and lots of potential.

It is something she loves and knows about too, so I think she's in her wheelhouse here in terms of "write about what you know."

I'm still leaning the e-book route for her over and above a blog. Or maybe the blog includes a few tastes of what's in the book for free, and then link up the book from there.

I just know it's the kind of thing a lot of people would be interested in, and I could see searching around on Amazon and seeing it coming up on search hits and thinking "yes my wife would love this" and buying it for her, whether it's 5 bucks or 10 bucks or 20 or whatever.

 
Thanks, good info so far.

IMHO it's a fairly unique idea and she brings a unique combination of interests to it. The more we talk through it, the more I could see it having lots and lots of potential.

It is something she loves and knows about too, so I think she's in her wheelhouse here in terms of "write about what you know."

I'm still leaning the e-book route for her over and above a blog. Or maybe the blog includes a few tastes of what's in the book for free, and then link up the book from there.

I just know it's the kind of thing a lot of people would be interested in, and I could see searching around on Amazon and seeing it coming up on search hits and thinking "yes my wife would love this" and buying it for her, whether it's 5 bucks or 10 bucks or 20 or whatever.
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Oat,Mrs Roboto has a blog. There are tens of thousands of mommy bloggers out there. It's a dime a dozen. She better have something truly unique. No offense, but chances are someone (or many someones) have done it better and longer. She needs to differentiate herself somehow.
Lots of nude photos would help.
 
From what I have seen- she could even write herself her book and follow it up with a business page on Facebook.

 
'AcerFC said:
:Paging Colin:
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My friend asked the following:

“My wife is looking to start a website / blog / cookbook, and we were trying to figure out the best way to go about it in terms of monetizing it. Hoping to get some tips from the folks here who have done these sorts of things successfully and built up web/publishing businesses at home that have generated some cash.

Here’s my initial I-have-no-idea-what-I’m-talking-about thinking in terms of options:

1. Write book, seek to have it published through traditional mechanisms, maybe a website/blog to follow

2. Write book, self publish, perhaps just as E-book in Amazon store etc. (fairly easy to do and inexpensive from what I understand, and if it catches on, you can start raking in some decent loot)

3. Write blog, collect revenue from Google adwords or some other advertising mechanism (my thinking on the upside here is you can generate interest perhaps, but the downside seems to be: why would anyone pay for your book on Amazon when they can read your blog for free?)

4. Start website that includes blog and other info there

She has a couple really interesting ideas that relate to baby stuff and cooking stuff, and I think if done right, and done the right way logistically, they could end up being pretty interesting.”

Making money on the internet is easy. Most people thing it is hard, but that is because most people see money in binary form – there is none of it or there is lots of it. The truth is that making a LOT of money on the internet is extremely difficult. In fact, making more then a LITTLE money on the internet can be a challenge. But making SOME money – going from $0 to a number higher than $0 is extremely easy. Most people also are averse to the hard work it takes to make money online. THey think that they could/should be able to put up a website and sit back to watch the money roll in.

You can make minimum wage on Mechanical Turk. Minimum wage sucks when you’re making hamburgers or cleaning cars, but it’s probably not too terrible when you’re sitting on the couch watching the Knicks game. You can create content for content farms and buy up domains and park them with ads. The money isn’t likely to be much more then minimum wage either but it IS out there for the taking. If you want to mix online and offline then there are TONS of customer service call-centers that outsource their workers to home offices (like Alpine Access). They pay closer to $10 an hour.

There are also a zillion different ways to create a blog and monetize it (which hits at my friend’s question). Ads, affiliate links, selling a downloadable PDF or e-book, linking to something at Click-Bank….there are no fewer than 100 different ways to “put up a website” and “make money.”

But it takes time.

Lots.

And.

Lots.

Of.

Time.

The adage that “time equals money” is nowhere more true then online. If you create a blog and put Google Ads on it (this is the simplest way to make SOME money online) then you will likely start off with too few visitors to make more than a few pennies each month. However, if you spend TIME posting interesting content (your own or linking to others) then your audience will build and eventually the amount of money you make from the ads will increase. How much content will it take? Presuming you aren’t in porn, then it takes A LOT. And it takes time to make that content.

* * * * *

I maintain a blog that I haven’t touched in nearly four years. The blog has three posts on it. One is called “World War 1 in a Nutshell.” One is called “Monet vs. Manet.” One is a history of political parties. All three posts took me about an hour to write. I have never promoted the blog and rarely mention it to anyone. ANd through normal search traffic it garners about 20 page views each day, all of them unique. The page views are almost evenly split between the Monet post and the War post. So let’s say that I would have created a post each day that was of the same quality and produced the same results (10 page unique page views a day). One post per day times 4 years would mean that I’d have around 1500 posts now. That would be about 15,000 page views a day. Assuming a $2 CPM (that is $2 for every 1,000 impressions) I would be earning $30 a day, or right around $10k for the year. Having an extra 10 grand a year would be awesome. Spending 1500 hours (6 months of 8 hour work days) is a lot of time to make $10,000. That comes out to a wage of ~$6.66 an hour.

If I had loved writing those posts I probably would have kept at it for free, so the $10,000 would have felt easy. But the posts had to be researched and I didn’t really have a passion for it, so working for that long to build the content seemed a waste of time. As a result, I leave the blog up and get a laugh every time college exam week rolls around and traffic spikes as World History and Art History students head to the internet to find information.

* * * * * *

To my friend’s question I would say this: the most basic way for his wife to monetize the blog or site or whatever is fairly simple.

1. She needs to do something that she has passion for

2. The topic needs to be something that she will be interested in for a while.

3. She WOULD DO FOR FREE.

The last part is important because she may be posting baby food recipes or blog postings or links to articles or whatever for a long time without any noticeable increase in cash flow. The second part is important because her own baby will grow up and maybe discussing babies and baby food will no longer be interesting to her when she’s running junior to soccer practice.

In other words, is this a topic she is passionate about for the long term? Or is it a topic she is interested in right now because it applies to her current life in a phase that will change? The distinction is important; the internet is littered with Poker blogs that all seemed to start in 2003 (when a non-pro won the WSOP and suddenly everyone thought they could be a poker player) and haven’t been updated since 2006 (when all those people realized that making money playing cards is a grind).

As for affiliate links and e-books and click-bank traffic, the answer is “sure, why not.” Starting a blog with the intent of making money is typically a bad idea for the reasons I detailed above: if you are interested in money more than the subject matter then you are likely going to lack the passion to do it for a long time. So the monetization doesn’t matter since you’ll have moved on to something else before you make any real money.

My advice to my friend and others interested in getting online and making some money through a blog is to worry about creating a blog they enjoy posting on as often as possible and worry about the money later. The challenge is easy: post at least one thing to a blog every day for six months. Every day means seven days a week. Post 180 days in a row and (1) you will have some decent seed content and (2) you will either be sick of the blog or you will be more excited then ever before. And if it’s the latter, finding ways to make money through ads or your own self-published book or whatever will start to make sense and will be easy.

Lest you think that I’m leaving you hanging without any upside, there is a way to make a LOT of money online that doesn’t include building the next Google or Facebook. It takes just as much time (or more) than the previous examples but it can be very lucrative for individuals.

Build a brand. Make every posting, every link, every video, everything out of your mouth and on your site lend credence to the idea that you (1) know what you are talking about (2) are entertaining or (3) both.

Bill Simmons began his own personal sports blog in the mid-90′s because he loved pop culture and sports. He no doubt hoped to become a professional writer at some point, but it is unlikely he envisioned he would be interviewing the President of the United States 15 years later for his personal website. His passion and unique voice built his brand, a little bit at a time, until running Google Ads or selling affiliate products was beneath him; he sells his own books and has an ad network devoted to his site. Simmons took his passion in a blog and cultivated it to “The Sports Guy” brand that is well known (if not well respected) by a large number of sports fans.

Gary Vaynerchuk took a passion for business and turned his father’s liquor store in to an online brand worth millions. He started by making videos about wine that were entertaining and informative. He may have the worst pallet on earth but it doesn’t matter at all: his brand makes him an authority on wine and business and it is paying off. He runs a venture fund and makes money writing books and doing speaking engagements.

You can do the same, but it takes passion, dedication, and TIME.

Making money online is not hard, but the rate or return for blogs and content creation is typically in direct relation to the time, passion, and energy put in to the content. There are no exponential growth curves and big pay days. Still interested?
 
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'Otis said:
1. Write book, seek to have it published through traditional mechanisms, maybe a website/blog to follow

2. Write book, self publish, perhaps just as E-book in Amazon store etc. (fairly easy to do and inexpensive from what I understand, and if it catches on, you can start raking in some decent loot)
I agree with everything Abe said (best post he's written on the topic, imo) and that's why I would only consider the first two options. To successfully monetize a blog or other website takes incredible dedication, time, knowledge and the competition is ridiculous even if you're raising earthworms nevermind cookbooks and a baby stuff.So. Write the book. Try to get it published or publish it yourselves.

You might want to consider making DVDs and throwing up a squeeze page, but that just depends.

Here's a squeeze page from someone I know who has made some major bank off of her idea.

 
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Nice post by Colin. Completely agree that making "some money" on the internet really isn't very difficult. I've got a pretty simple business and made a relatively very simple website that both promotes my business, and provides me with a nice revenue stream via advertisements. Feel free to take a look at my site and ask any questions you may have:

bigbustycoons.com

 
If there is enough information in the niche for a blog, I'd consider starting with that. Build an audience, but don't give everything away. Put some advertising on it, use some affiliate links, etc to monetize over time.

While writing a blog post a day (great post by Abe), put together a book that either goes into greater detail or targets a more specific part of the niche.

Then once your wife has an audience, publish the book and start promoting it on the website or through blog posts. Decide if it is something she wants to publish through Amazon, and try for high volume/low price, or sell it herself through her website or one of the sites setup for self-publishers. She might be able to sell it for quite a bit more this way, especially if it helps solve a specific problem people have. Think $27-$97 rather than $3-$5.

Continue publishing the blog, that plus the book should help establish your wife as an expert in the field, which could lead to other opportunities or ways to cross-promote with other websites in her niche.

Obviously a very high-level overview. Keep good notes on the process and results as well, always good to review what did and didn't work.

 
No love for figuring out how to get her a TV show, like on the Food Network, first? Establish the name that way, then the rest will follow.

 
When you get paid to publish a book, your first book, the percent that is yours to "take home" is often very low. Many people create their own(like Otis Publishing) and go from there.

It would probably be a year til she sees much "nickel and dime" revenue from adwords or much consistent traffic on her site. The first year is usually a big learning experience for site owners and year two is dramatically different somewhat focused.

 
johnnycakes said:
No love for figuring out how to get her a TV show, like on the Food Network, first? Establish the name that way, then the rest will follow.
if she's not a name why would the food network give her a show? There's a whole chicken or the egg thing here.

 
johnnycakes said:
No love for figuring out how to get her a TV show, like on the Food Network, first? Establish the name that way, then the rest will follow.
if she's not a name why would the food network give her a show? There's a whole chicken or the egg thing here.
The pioneer woman got a food network show from her blog. Bit the blog is years old and had won a lot of awards.

 
Agree. It takes time an effort. And I agree that, it takes a year to get started and it isn't "easy."

But once you have it up and running and you start generating new ideas it compounds and the extra money is VERY nice. To me, It's odd that most people are unwilling to work for it.

 
Thanks, good info so far. IMHO it's a fairly unique idea and she brings a unique combination of interests to it. The more we talk through it, the more I could see it having lots and lots of potential. It is something she loves and knows about too, so I think she's in her wheelhouse here in terms of "write about what you know." I'm still leaning the e-book route for her over and above a blog. Or maybe the blog includes a few tastes of what's in the book for free, and then link up the book from there. I just know it's the kind of thing a lot of people would be interested in, and I could see searching around on Amazon and seeing it coming up on search hits and thinking "yes my wife would love this" and buying it for her, whether it's 5 bucks or 10 bucks or 20 or whatever.
update?

 
Didn't read the whole thread, but is this about a race of space aliens that harvest the Earth for its resources and uses humans as their slaves? Only an asteroid can put the plans back on course. I plan for this story to be a trilogy if possible.

 
Thanks, good info so far. IMHO it's a fairly unique idea and she brings a unique combination of interests to it. The more we talk through it, the more I could see it having lots and lots of potential. It is something she loves and knows about too, so I think she's in her wheelhouse here in terms of "write about what you know." I'm still leaning the e-book route for her over and above a blog. Or maybe the blog includes a few tastes of what's in the book for free, and then link up the book from there. I just know it's the kind of thing a lot of people would be interested in, and I could see searching around on Amazon and seeing it coming up on search hits and thinking "yes my wife would love this" and buying it for her, whether it's 5 bucks or 10 bucks or 20 or whatever.
update?
We're millionaire and now I no longer work and spend my days playing ipoker on the beach.

jk

 

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