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Moral Dilemma from a movie (1 Viewer)

What if you wake her up because she's got but ends up being a total pill? 

Anyway movie sucked. I fell asleep before she even woke up (or shortly after). Wife went to finish watching on another TV and Comcast charged me double.  Tried getting it fixed on chat but ended up having to call and they fixed it even though the lady told me Passengers HD and Passengers/Chris HD were 2 different movies 

Pretty sure my wife probably rubbed one out to Chris Pratt too

 
I would have picked out the creepiest dude I could find in the database and wake him up FIRST. 

Then I would suggest  to him that we wake up all the hot chicks.

Then I would have taught him how to do it.  Together we'd wake up 5 or 6 babes.  

Then I'd kill him right away.

I could then blame it all on him and be somewhat of a hero to the girls.

"Oh yeah. Mitch was a total perv.  I caught him before he could wake more people up. I just wished I had stopped him sooner.  Now who wants some space wang?"

 
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Walking Boot said:
All the criticism of this film is that he woke her up and killed her, then she falls in love with him anyway, because 
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Are we forgetting that she fell in love with him, then hated him when she found out the truth, but then fell in love with him again after he risked his life to save the entire ship that was about to be destroyed?

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
I would have picked out the creepiest dude I could find in the database and wake him up FIRST. 

Then I would suggest  to him that we wake up all the hot chicks.

Then I would have taught him how to do it.  Together we'd wake up 5 or 6 babes.  

Then I'd kill him right away.

I could then blame it all on him and be somewhat of a hero to the girls.

"Oh yeah. Mitch was a total perv.  I caught him before he could wake more people up. I just wished I had stopped him sooner.  Now who wants some space wang?"
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ddD80NAmLJM

 
Walking Boot said:
The movie is, effectively, asking us to sympathize with a rapist. If he later then rescues his rape victim from a burning building, is the audience expected to like him again?
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You are making me regret starting this topic. Maybe I should follow the example of another poster and threaten to delete this thread.

 
Walking Boot said:
The movie is, effectively, asking us to sympathize with a rapist. If he later then rescues his rape victim from a burning building, is the audience expected to like him again?
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he rescued like hundreds of people, not just the victim.  

And no, it isn't like rape.  Not even a little.  Not the same ballpark.  Not even the same sport.  

 
Walking Boot said:
He more-or-less abducted her (from sleep, but still) in order to force her to spend time with him (morally, not unlike kidnapping a woman and keeping her in his basement). Then, once Stockholm Syndrome set in, he manipulated her into falling in love with him so they could have a sexual relationship. This isn't like telling some woman at the bar you have a summer house in the Hamptons so she thinks you're rich so she'll sleep with you. This is forcing a woman to live with you in captivity because you think she's got a great body.

She literally, in the movie, says he has "murdered" her when she finds out he deliberately took her out of the stasis pod so that he would have someone to talk to. Her exact words: "He murdered me". She is not wrong and is not contradicted by the person she's speaking to.

His actions, after that, do not make him sympathetic again to the audience. That's my point, and it's why a lot of people did not like this movie at all. 
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It sounds like the movie is pretty realistic regarding the human condition but it's disliked because it's not a perfect Disney fairy tale.

Regardless of what anyone here says we would all eventually wake up a woman from stasis rather than die alone on the spaceship. Who cares if she hates us? How is that different from the average marriage? Both people will have to learn to get along because they have no other options . That's pretty damn realistic.

Who else is she going to sleep with? The android bartender? Who else is he supposed to sleep with? Maybe she falls in love with him because he was honest ( most of us would have lied the rest of our lives and claimed her pod mfunctioned too). It sounds like the most realistic love story I've ever heard of and I can't wait to see this movie.

And you all know damn well you would have done the same as the main character if you were in the same position so don't even try to lie about " doing the right thing".

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
I would have picked out the creepiest dude I could find in the database and wake him up FIRST. 

Then I would suggest  to him that we wake up all the hot chicks.

Then I would have taught him how to do it.  Together we'd wake up 5 or 6 babes.  

Then I'd kill him right away.

I could then blame it all on him and be somewhat of a hero to the girls.

"Oh yeah. Mitch was a total perv.  I caught him before he could wake more people up. I just wished I had stopped him sooner.  Now who wants some space wang?"
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I like this guy's plan!

 
sort of missing the part where had he not woken her (or someone else) up, everyone would have died in their sleep.   she was given the opportunity to save her own life.   after the rapey part, of course.

 
-fish- said:
sort of missing the part where had he not woken her (or someone else) up, everyone would have died in their sleep.   she was given the opportunity to save her own life.   after the rapey part, of course.
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My intent was not to give away the entire plot of the movie, but to focus on the difficult choice he first made. He had no way of knowing that waking up Aurora would save the others on the ship. 

 
Conanthecontrarian said:
My intent was not to give away the entire plot of the movie, but to focus on the difficult choice he first made. He had no way of knowing that waking up Aurora would save the others on the ship. 
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yeah that was pretty rapey.  I'm talking about Walking Boot's moral objection to the entire story, including how it worked out.   he's omitting a major plot point.

 
Walking Boot said:
Seek mental health counseling. You would probably benefit from 30 days or more in house somewhere. 
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Sure. And once I get out , having no job, losing my apartment and having no family I can just live on the streets or , if there is any space at all, live in a homeless shelter. After all that I'm sure the treatment will take with my new stress free life. 

Of course ill have to find an in house treatment that will take me without health insurance.

You are brilliant.

 
Walking Boot said:
He more-or-less abducted her (from sleep, but still) in order to force her to spend time with him (morally, not unlike kidnapping a woman and keeping her in his basement). Then, once Stockholm Syndrome set in, he manipulated her into falling in love with him so they could have a sexual relationship. This isn't like telling some woman at the bar you have a summer house in the Hamptons so she thinks you're rich so she'll sleep with you. This is forcing a woman to live with you in captivity because you think she's got a great body.

She literally, in the movie, says he has "murdered" her when she finds out he deliberately took her out of the stasis pod so that he would have someone to talk to. Her exact words: "He murdered me". She is not wrong and is not contradicted by the person she's speaking to.

His actions, after that, do not make him sympathetic again to the audience. That's my point, and it's why a lot of people did not like this movie at all. 
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I agree with you but there is a way to make this movie and succeed. Did you like Taxi Driver?  

 
RokNRole said:
Sure. And once I get out , having no job, losing my apartment and having no family I can just live on the streets or , if there is any space at all, live in a homeless shelter. After all that I'm sure the treatment will take with my new stress free life. 

Of course ill have to find an in house treatment that will take me without health insurance.

You are brilliant.
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Can you please confine this to your own thread? TIA

 
RokNRole said:
He spoke to me. You are obviously equally as brilliant as he is.
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Why don't you retreat back to your "I'm going to delete this in 7 days. No, really,this time I mean it!" thread? Or are you still taking a break from the FFA? :rolleyes:

 
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